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Eagles’ Super Bowl win is not evidence Lions need a Myles Garrett trade


The Detroit Lions need to improve their pass rush, but the Super Bowl champ Philadelphia Eagles show that a trade for Myles Garrett isn’t the way.

By Jeremy Reisman

As is tradition after the Super Bowl, NFL fans and analysts are scrambling to figure out ways their team can build exactly like the league’s champion. I think this is flawed reasoning because we’re relying on a sample size of single-elimination playoffs and I am also firmly against the idea of copycatting in the NFL. Teams build different ways and find success through various strategies.

But I’ll play along. How do the Detroit Lions build like the Philadelphia Eagles to get over the hump and win their first Super Bowl? For many people, Sunday’s dominant win was proof that the Lions need to get as aggressive as possible to land Maxx Crosby or Myles Garrett. Price be damned, the Lions need to get that elite pass rusher.

On the surface, I get the argument. The Eagles’ pass rush was dominant against an inferior Chiefs offensive line. They were able to sack Patrick Mahomes six times on Sunday night without sending more than four pass rushers a single time. There’s no doubt the Eagles winning the trench battle on both sides of the ball is a big reason they are champions this Monday morning.

But saying the Lions need to go all-in on a single pass rusher is ignoring how the Eagles have built their pass rush. Let me explain.

Draft, draft, and more draft

The Eagles’ defensive line is built almost exclusively through the draft—and high draft capital.
  • EDGE Nolan Smith — 2023 first-round pick
  • EDGE Brandon Graham — 2010 first-round pick
  • DT Jordan Davis — 2022 first-round pick
  • DT Jalen Carter — 2023 first-round pick
  • DT Milton Williams — 2021 third-round pick
  • DT Moro Ojomo — 2023 seventh-round pick
  • EDGE Josh Sweat — 2018 fourth-round pick
And that doesn’t even account for some of the other huge performances from the Eagles defense on Sunday. Take 2024 second-round pick Cooper DeJean’s pick six or 2024 first-round pick Quinyon Mitchell’s lock-down coverage all year that helps complement Philly’s pass rush.

The Eagles’ defense is proof of concept when it comes to draft and develop—far from an “F THEM PICKS” mentality. In the past three drafts, the Eagles have spent eight of 10 Day 1 or Day 2 picks on defense—half of those spent on the defensive line. The other Day 1 or 2 picks? Offensive line, offensive line. Build through the trenches.

Depth, depth, and more depth

Whereas Lions fans are dreaming about having not just one, but two elite pass rushers, the Eagles’ ability to get to the passer is not just about one or two players or a single position. It’s about everything and everyone working in harmony.

This year, the Eagles didn’t have a single player with more than 8.0 sacks. They only had a single edge rusher (Josh Sweat, 59) with more than 50 pressures all season—including the playoffs (reminder: Aidan Hutchinson had 45 pressures in five games).

Yet, collectively, they had PFF’s second-highest pass rush grade and ESPN’s eighth-highest pass rush win rate.

That’s because the Eagles have built tremendous depth at the position. It’s not about one player. So when Brandon Graham went down in Week 12, the Eagles didn’t skip a beat. Milton Williams stepped up and produced 33 pressures in the next nine games—and two sacks and a forced fumble in the Super Bowl.

Ironically, the Eagles’ biggest pass rush investment outside of the draft—signing Bryce Huff to a three-year, $51.1 million deal in 2024 free agency—produced just 23 pressures and 2.5 sacks in 12 games. He was a healthy scratch for the Super Bowl.

What’s perhaps even most interesting about the Eagles’ pass rush is that they used to have a single pass-rushing threat on the edge. Haason Reddick produced back-to-back seasons of 10+ sacks for the Eagles in 2022 and 2023. What did they end up doing with him this year? Traded him away for a 2026 third-round pick. Reddick ended up playing 10 games for the Jets this year and tallied just a single sack. It was never just about one player in Philly.

Yes, the Lions have Aidan Hutchinson and Alim McNeill to pair with a third, potential pass rushing star, but Detroit is still woefully thin beyond those three. Meanwhile, the Eagles thrived without two of their biggest pass rushing threats from 2023 for a large portion of the season (Reddick, Graham).

Interior pass rush is just as important, if not more

The key when pressuring a player like Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl or Jayden Daniels in the NFC Championship game is getting your entire defensive line to work in harmony to clog up rushing lanes. Not only did the Eagles sack Mahomes and Daniels a collective nine times, but the duo rushed for just 73 total yards in those games.

Philly’s pass rush is defined by their interior presence. When it comes to their leaders in pressures (per PFF), three of their top five are interior defenders: Jalen Carter (73 pressures), Milton Williams (50), and Moro Ojomo (36).

As for PFF pass rushing grade, the Eagles don’t have a single edge rusher ranked in the top 30 across the NFL. However, they have three defensive tackles ranked in the top 10:

  • Milton Williams (second, 90.4)
  • Moro Ojomo: (fifth, 82.6)
  • Jalen Carter (seventh, 81.5)
If you can disrupt quarterbacks from the heart of the defensive line, you can make a lot of great things happen. Re-watch the Super Bowl, and see where Philly was generating the most disruption.

The Lions’ pass rush already has top-end talent, now they need depth

As noted before, the Lions already have two really important pieces when it comes to their pass rush. Hutchinson is a beast and McNeill continues to grow and thrive. Both finished top-15 at their position when it comes to PFF pass rush (Hutchinson first, McNeill 12th). But Detroit lacks any semblance of depth, so when one (or in 2024’s case, both) got injured, the Lions had no answer.

I’m not saying the Lions don’t need to invest in their defensive line. In fact, I’m saying quite the opposite. They need to invest more and more and more. But I don’t think this defensive line is a piece away. I think it is several pieces away. If they want to build a pass rush that resembles the Eagles’ dominant group, they are going to need a multi-year investment at the position.

And, look, the Lions have tried. They drafted Hutchinson, McNeill, Josh Paschal, and Levi Onwuzurike all with Day 1 or 2 picks. Half of those have worked out, half of them haven’t (yet). If the Lions were a little more efficient with those picks, they may have had their shot at Philly in the NFC Championship game.

I’m not completely against a move to get Garrett. I’ve said as much in the past, and I am fully behind improving this team’s pass rush. However, I just don’t think using the Philadelphia Eagles as an example of proof of concept makes any sense when they built their entire defense through investment via the draft and building depth beyond a player or two.
How much does Holmes need to factor in the likelihood that McNeill won't be back by Week 1?
That is a definite concern not being able to start the season suggests he will have trouble with conditioning and agility.
Likely to not be at his best until the year after.
Disappointing to hear that Broderick Martin is still developmental. Lions were patient with Levi and it paid off but now are ironically in danger of losing him and to keep him may need to pay more than they would like.

Levi had Power 5 tape to back up that belief.

I hade never understood 3 picks to land BM. He was going to be there in the 5th. Gonna move up Day 2, then take a traits guy like Kobe Turner. Holmes was impressed with his size. Not his athleticism, he’s always been a soft body and his play strength is below average.

EDIT: Moro Ojomo had awesome run D tape at Texas. Eagles got him in the 7th & basically red shirted him. Huge Y2 leap, pretty good rotational guy. He is where Brodric should be at - and he was taken like 140 picks later.

Martin has always had a terrible pad level with questionable work ethic. The kid who brings home Cs every semester but promises next term he’s going to really buckle down and apply himself.

Ifeatu Melifonwu & Levi Onwuzurike earned patience IMO, you knew there was upside. It’s like Brad cannot admit he whiffed. Doesn’t matter, he’s still crushing his job, nobody bats 1.000.
 
I was critical of the Broderick Martin and Manu picks at the time for a few reasons. Mainly the amount of draft capital given up for players who were viewed as being very developmental. They seemed like guys who you take flyers on in the 6th and 7th rounds.

The other part of it is that if they do develop that the payoff may not be there as by that time they may be looking at their second r contract. As such the Lions may have to outbid others in free agency.
If Holmes likes a guy he will do whatever he can to get them. It has has served the Lions well overall. But I think he over drafted these two fellows. I haven't heard of other teams having these guys that high but I may have missed it.
 
Christian Mahogany is ready to step into a starting role. The Lions already have a scheduled opening in the lineup, with Zeitler set to re-enter free agency. Initial perceptions are it’s an either/or conversation between Glasgow and Zeitler for 2025.
Glasgow seems like the weak link, pay the extra to bring back Zeitler if possible?

Zeitler has said he would like to return. Glasgow`s play declined last year and it is time for him to go.

As far as Carlton Davis goes as good as he can be at times he does have a history of injuries that might scare away some teams. Will be interesting to see what happens.
 
Now there are rumors about Micah Parsons being available, and Trey Hendricks. This would drive the price down a little for Garrett or a good consolation prize if you can't get him.
 

Eagles’ Super Bowl win is not evidence Lions need a Myles Garrett trade


The Detroit Lions need to improve their pass rush, but the Super Bowl champ Philadelphia Eagles show that a trade for Myles Garrett isn’t the way.

By Jeremy Reisman

As is tradition after the Super Bowl, NFL fans and analysts are scrambling to figure out ways their team can build exactly like the league’s champion. I think this is flawed reasoning because we’re relying on a sample size of single-elimination playoffs and I am also firmly against the idea of copycatting in the NFL. Teams build different ways and find success through various strategies.

But I’ll play along. How do the Detroit Lions build like the Philadelphia Eagles to get over the hump and win their first Super Bowl? For many people, Sunday’s dominant win was proof that the Lions need to get as aggressive as possible to land Maxx Crosby or Myles Garrett. Price be damned, the Lions need to get that elite pass rusher.

On the surface, I get the argument. The Eagles’ pass rush was dominant against an inferior Chiefs offensive line. They were able to sack Patrick Mahomes six times on Sunday night without sending more than four pass rushers a single time. There’s no doubt the Eagles winning the trench battle on both sides of the ball is a big reason they are champions this Monday morning.

But saying the Lions need to go all-in on a single pass rusher is ignoring how the Eagles have built their pass rush. Let me explain.

Draft, draft, and more draft

The Eagles’ defensive line is built almost exclusively through the draft—and high draft capital.
  • EDGE Nolan Smith — 2023 first-round pick
  • EDGE Brandon Graham — 2010 first-round pick
  • DT Jordan Davis — 2022 first-round pick
  • DT Jalen Carter — 2023 first-round pick
  • DT Milton Williams — 2021 third-round pick
  • DT Moro Ojomo — 2023 seventh-round pick
  • EDGE Josh Sweat — 2018 fourth-round pick
And that doesn’t even account for some of the other huge performances from the Eagles defense on Sunday. Take 2024 second-round pick Cooper DeJean’s pick six or 2024 first-round pick Quinyon Mitchell’s lock-down coverage all year that helps complement Philly’s pass rush.

The Eagles’ defense is proof of concept when it comes to draft and develop—far from an “F THEM PICKS” mentality. In the past three drafts, the Eagles have spent eight of 10 Day 1 or Day 2 picks on defense—half of those spent on the defensive line. The other Day 1 or 2 picks? Offensive line, offensive line. Build through the trenches.

Depth, depth, and more depth

Whereas Lions fans are dreaming about having not just one, but two elite pass rushers, the Eagles’ ability to get to the passer is not just about one or two players or a single position. It’s about everything and everyone working in harmony.

This year, the Eagles didn’t have a single player with more than 8.0 sacks. They only had a single edge rusher (Josh Sweat, 59) with more than 50 pressures all season—including the playoffs (reminder: Aidan Hutchinson had 45 pressures in five games).

Yet, collectively, they had PFF’s second-highest pass rush grade and ESPN’s eighth-highest pass rush win rate.

That’s because the Eagles have built tremendous depth at the position. It’s not about one player. So when Brandon Graham went down in Week 12, the Eagles didn’t skip a beat. Milton Williams stepped up and produced 33 pressures in the next nine games—and two sacks and a forced fumble in the Super Bowl.

Ironically, the Eagles’ biggest pass rush investment outside of the draft—signing Bryce Huff to a three-year, $51.1 million deal in 2024 free agency—produced just 23 pressures and 2.5 sacks in 12 games. He was a healthy scratch for the Super Bowl.

What’s perhaps even most interesting about the Eagles’ pass rush is that they used to have a single pass-rushing threat on the edge. Haason Reddick produced back-to-back seasons of 10+ sacks for the Eagles in 2022 and 2023. What did they end up doing with him this year? Traded him away for a 2026 third-round pick. Reddick ended up playing 10 games for the Jets this year and tallied just a single sack. It was never just about one player in Philly.

Yes, the Lions have Aidan Hutchinson and Alim McNeill to pair with a third, potential pass rushing star, but Detroit is still woefully thin beyond those three. Meanwhile, the Eagles thrived without two of their biggest pass rushing threats from 2023 for a large portion of the season (Reddick, Graham).

Interior pass rush is just as important, if not more

The key when pressuring a player like Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl or Jayden Daniels in the NFC Championship game is getting your entire defensive line to work in harmony to clog up rushing lanes. Not only did the Eagles sack Mahomes and Daniels a collective nine times, but the duo rushed for just 73 total yards in those games.

Philly’s pass rush is defined by their interior presence. When it comes to their leaders in pressures (per PFF), three of their top five are interior defenders: Jalen Carter (73 pressures), Milton Williams (50), and Moro Ojomo (36).

As for PFF pass rushing grade, the Eagles don’t have a single edge rusher ranked in the top 30 across the NFL. However, they have three defensive tackles ranked in the top 10:

  • Milton Williams (second, 90.4)
  • Moro Ojomo: (fifth, 82.6)
  • Jalen Carter (seventh, 81.5)
If you can disrupt quarterbacks from the heart of the defensive line, you can make a lot of great things happen. Re-watch the Super Bowl, and see where Philly was generating the most disruption.

The Lions’ pass rush already has top-end talent, now they need depth

As noted before, the Lions already have two really important pieces when it comes to their pass rush. Hutchinson is a beast and McNeill continues to grow and thrive. Both finished top-15 at their position when it comes to PFF pass rush (Hutchinson first, McNeill 12th). But Detroit lacks any semblance of depth, so when one (or in 2024’s case, both) got injured, the Lions had no answer.

I’m not saying the Lions don’t need to invest in their defensive line. In fact, I’m saying quite the opposite. They need to invest more and more and more. But I don’t think this defensive line is a piece away. I think it is several pieces away. If they want to build a pass rush that resembles the Eagles’ dominant group, they are going to need a multi-year investment at the position.

And, look, the Lions have tried. They drafted Hutchinson, McNeill, Josh Paschal, and Levi Onwuzurike all with Day 1 or 2 picks. Half of those have worked out, half of them haven’t (yet). If the Lions were a little more efficient with those picks, they may have had their shot at Philly in the NFC Championship game.

I’m not completely against a move to get Garrett. I’ve said as much in the past, and I am fully behind improving this team’s pass rush. However, I just don’t think using the Philadelphia Eagles as an example of proof of concept makes any sense when they built their entire defense through investment via the draft and building depth beyond a player or two.
How much does Holmes need to factor in the likelihood that McNeill won't be back by Week 1?
That is a definite concern not being able to start the season suggests he will have trouble with conditioning and agility.
Likely to not be at his best until the year after.
Disappointing to hear that Broderick Martin is still developmental. Lions were patient with Levi and it paid off but now are ironically in danger of losing him and to keep him may need to pay more than they would like.

Levi had Power 5 tape to back up that belief.

I hade never understood 3 picks to land BM. He was going to be there in the 5th. Gonna move up Day 2, then take a traits guy like Kobe Turner. Holmes was impressed with his size. Not his athleticism, he’s always been a soft body and his play strength is below average.

EDIT: Moro Ojomo had awesome run D tape at Texas. Eagles got him in the 7th & basically red shirted him. Huge Y2 leap, pretty good rotational guy. He is where Brodric should be at - and he was taken like 140 picks later.

Martin has always had a terrible pad level with questionable work ethic. The kid who brings home Cs every semester but promises next term he’s going to really buckle down and apply himself.

Ifeatu Melifonwu & Levi Onwuzurike earned patience IMO, you knew there was upside. It’s like Brad cannot admit he whiffed. Doesn’t matter, he’s still crushing his job, nobody bats 1.000.

You already know how I feel about BM. I went to 2 open practices last year and out of all the lineman BM just looks like a slow, fat DT. Reader looks heavy but at least he has some thickness in his mass, BM just looks like a fat kid who only played football because he was huge, but never got into any kind of shape. With as good as Holmes has been I still don`t know what he saw in Martin.

Zero production from a third rd lineman is not good.

The game he did play he showed nothing other than get pushed around way to easy for his size.
 
I was critical of the Broderick Martin and Manu picks at the time for a few reasons. Mainly the amount of draft capital given up for players who were viewed as being very developmental. They seemed like guys who you take flyers on in the 6th and 7th rounds.

The other part of it is that if they do develop that the payoff may not be there as by that time they may be looking at their second r contract. As such the Lions may have to outbid others in free agency.
If Holmes likes a guy he will do whatever he can to get them. It has has served the Lions well overall. But I think he over drafted these two fellows. I haven't heard of other teams having these guys that high but I may have missed it.
The Martin pick has been really bad thus far and is by far the worst pick Holmes has made. Manu is a gifted athlete with tons of upside so I didn't mind that pick.
 
That is a definite concern not being able to start the season suggests he will have trouble with conditioning and agility.
Likely to not be at his best until the year after.
Disappointing to hear that Broderick Martin is still developmental. Lions were patient with Levi and it paid off but now are ironically in danger of losing him and to keep him may need to pay more than they would like.

Levi had Power 5 tape to back up that belief.

I hade never understood 3 picks to land BM. He was going to be there in the 5th. Gonna move up Day 2, then take a traits guy like Kobe Turner. Holmes was impressed with his size. Not his athleticism, he’s always been a soft body and his play strength is below average.

EDIT: Moro Ojomo had awesome run D tape at Texas. Eagles got him in the 7th & basically red shirted him. Huge Y2 leap, pretty good rotational guy. He is where Brodric should be at - and he was taken like 140 picks later.

Martin has always had a terrible pad level with questionable work ethic. The kid who brings home Cs every semester but promises next term he’s going to really buckle down and apply himself.

Ifeatu Melifonwu & Levi Onwuzurike earned patience IMO, you knew there was upside. It’s like Brad cannot admit he whiffed. Doesn’t matter, he’s still crushing his job, nobody bats 1.000.

You already know how I feel about BM. I went to 2 open practices last year and out of all the lineman BM just looks like a slow, fat DT. Reader looks heavy but at least he has some thickness in his mass, BM just looks like a fat kid who only played football because he was huge, but never got into any kind of shape. With as good as Holmes has been I still don`t know what he saw in Martin.

Zero production from a third rd lineman is not good.

The game he did play he showed nothing other than get pushed around way to easy for his size.

Which is what he looked like at Western Kentucky and the Shrine Bowl.

It's like every year you go through this with a bunch a players.
  • OK, here's a guy who doesn't have the best production or tape, it's apparent he has bad technique, but since he's very athletic, we can coach him up. (Kobe Turner)
  • Here's another guy who is great versus the run, doesn't have a plan to rush the passer, and he is undersized for NFL IOL at 284. But the tape! Man does this kid understand leverage and how to effectively use his hands. (Moro Ojomo)
  • Or we could take this big kid who has poor technique and is not athletic and oh by the way doesn't have the burning desire work ethic we love. But wow is he big. (Brodric Martin)
Huh?
 
That is a definite concern not being able to start the season suggests he will have trouble with conditioning and agility.
Likely to not be at his best until the year after.
Disappointing to hear that Broderick Martin is still developmental. Lions were patient with Levi and it paid off but now are ironically in danger of losing him and to keep him may need to pay more than they would like.

Levi had Power 5 tape to back up that belief.

I hade never understood 3 picks to land BM. He was going to be there in the 5th. Gonna move up Day 2, then take a traits guy like Kobe Turner. Holmes was impressed with his size. Not his athleticism, he’s always been a soft body and his play strength is below average.

EDIT: Moro Ojomo had awesome run D tape at Texas. Eagles got him in the 7th & basically red shirted him. Huge Y2 leap, pretty good rotational guy. He is where Brodric should be at - and he was taken like 140 picks later.

Martin has always had a terrible pad level with questionable work ethic. The kid who brings home Cs every semester but promises next term he’s going to really buckle down and apply himself.

Ifeatu Melifonwu & Levi Onwuzurike earned patience IMO, you knew there was upside. It’s like Brad cannot admit he whiffed. Doesn’t matter, he’s still crushing his job, nobody bats 1.000.

You already know how I feel about BM. I went to 2 open practices last year and out of all the lineman BM just looks like a slow, fat DT. Reader looks heavy but at least he has some thickness in his mass, BM just looks like a fat kid who only played football because he was huge, but never got into any kind of shape. With as good as Holmes has been I still don`t know what he saw in Martin.

Zero production from a third rd lineman is not good.

The game he did play he showed nothing other than get pushed around way to easy for his size.

Which is what he looked like at Western Kentucky and the Shrine Bowl.

It's like every year you go through this with a bunch a players.
  • OK, here's a guy who doesn't have the best production or tape, it's apparent he has bad technique, but since he's very athletic, we can coach him up. (Kobe Turner)
  • Here's another guy who is great versus the run, doesn't have a plan to rush the passer, and he is undersized for NFL IOL at 284. But the tape! Man does this kid understand leverage and how to effectively use his hands. (Moro Ojomo)
  • Or we could take this big kid who has poor technique and is not athletic and oh by the way doesn't have the burning desire work ethic we love. But wow is he big. (Brodric Martin)
Huh?

Agree. School of thought would be after almost 2 years of weight training, conditioning, coaching, being taught better eating habits that it would yield some results. But is hasn't.

Martin himself admitted he lives next door to a Jets Pizza and ate there almost every night. Would not be surprised at all if he is released before the draft. Even when d-line was decimated he did not play.
 
DL Cap of the SB Champs:
  • Brandon Graham: $8.1M
  • Josh Sweat: $8M
  • Jalen Carter: $5M
  • Jordan Davis: $4.6M
  • Milton Williams: $3.3M
  • Nolan Smith: $2.6M
  • Jalyx Hunt: $1M
  • Moro Ojomo: $1M

Having 3 high cap hit DL (Alim + MG + Hutch upcoming extension) is the exact opposite of how Howie Roseman & the Eagles did it.

Draft and develop.

Howie did get pretty lucky this offseason, he signed two free agents and both became AP1 at their positions (Baun and Barkley). It's not out of the realm of possibility that he would trade a 1st round pick for a guy, he did it with AJ Brown. It's really one of those, it depends on the situation and player.
 
@RyanEFox2 (Ryan Ermani)

This Philadelphia Eagles defense proves the Lions should do whatever they have to do to go get Myles Garrett. Period.

@DetroitOnLion Jeremy Reisman)​
Eagles DL and how they acquired them:​
- Nolan Smith, drafted in first round​
- Jalen Carter, drafted in first round​
- Jordan Davis, drafted in first round​
- Brandon Graham, drafted in first round​
- Josh Sweat, drafted in fourth round​
So, yeah, F THEM PICKS!​



He forgot the Eagles were going to take Alim McNeill in the third round back in 2021 but the Lions traded up to nab him. They settled for Milton Williams a couple picks later.

Just keep drafting ED, DI, IOL & LB. It would be foolish to give up the competitive advantage Holmes has in the draft. Fill holes with reasonable FAs and draft for talent.
100% agree. Trust the process that has turned the worst NFL franchise into a contender.
That is great for when you are trying to BUILD a team. That isn't the goal anymore.

Go ahead and keep building. That won't equal a Super Bowl.

Why you wasting time posting here when your keen eye is needed in the GM ranks?

I’m putting my trust in the 2x defending champ NFL Executive of Year. He knows what they need and how to go about it far better than I.

At some point you stop trying to build a team and you make moves to win a Super Bowl.
Rams traded for Stafford.
Philly signing Saquon.

It's time the Lions make a power move to win it all.

Also, this same GM passed on Jordan Davis for Jamo and Jalen Carter for Gibbs.
The GM who took those two just won a Super Bowl.

It's ok to say he isn't perfect.
 
That is a definite concern not being able to start the season suggests he will have trouble with conditioning and agility.
Likely to not be at his best until the year after.
Disappointing to hear that Broderick Martin is still developmental. Lions were patient with Levi and it paid off but now are ironically in danger of losing him and to keep him may need to pay more than they would like.

Levi had Power 5 tape to back up that belief.

I hade never understood 3 picks to land BM. He was going to be there in the 5th. Gonna move up Day 2, then take a traits guy like Kobe Turner. Holmes was impressed with his size. Not his athleticism, he’s always been a soft body and his play strength is below average.

EDIT: Moro Ojomo had awesome run D tape at Texas. Eagles got him in the 7th & basically red shirted him. Huge Y2 leap, pretty good rotational guy. He is where Brodric should be at - and he was taken like 140 picks later.

Martin has always had a terrible pad level with questionable work ethic. The kid who brings home Cs every semester but promises next term he’s going to really buckle down and apply himself.

Ifeatu Melifonwu & Levi Onwuzurike earned patience IMO, you knew there was upside. It’s like Brad cannot admit he whiffed. Doesn’t matter, he’s still crushing his job, nobody bats 1.000.

You already know how I feel about BM. I went to 2 open practices last year and out of all the lineman BM just looks like a slow, fat DT. Reader looks heavy but at least he has some thickness in his mass, BM just looks like a fat kid who only played football because he was huge, but never got into any kind of shape. With as good as Holmes has been I still don`t know what he saw in Martin.

Zero production from a third rd lineman is not good.

The game he did play he showed nothing other than get pushed around way to easy for his size.

Which is what he looked like at Western Kentucky and the Shrine Bowl.

It's like every year you go through this with a bunch a players.
  • OK, here's a guy who doesn't have the best production or tape, it's apparent he has bad technique, but since he's very athletic, we can coach him up. (Kobe Turner)
  • Here's another guy who is great versus the run, doesn't have a plan to rush the passer, and he is undersized for NFL IOL at 284. But the tape! Man does this kid understand leverage and how to effectively use his hands. (Moro Ojomo)
  • Or we could take this big kid who has poor technique and is not athletic and oh by the way doesn't have the burning desire work ethic we love. But wow is he big. (Brodric Martin)
Huh?
I'm certainly not defending the Martin pick, but it seems the primary challenge in drafting, especially in the later rounds, is figuring out which flaws are fixable and which are fatal.

I know there are probably some traits which are stickier than others, though I don't claim to know which are which. I remember when Josh Allen was drafted, everyone "knew" that if you had a low completion percentage in college, that would carry over to the pros. (And ever since Allen showed he was the exception, he's probably helped a lot of undeserving dudes get drafted higher than they should have).
 
@RyanEFox2 (Ryan Ermani)

This Philadelphia Eagles defense proves the Lions should do whatever they have to do to go get Myles Garrett. Period.

@DetroitOnLion Jeremy Reisman)​
Eagles DL and how they acquired them:​
- Nolan Smith, drafted in first round​
- Jalen Carter, drafted in first round​
- Jordan Davis, drafted in first round​
- Brandon Graham, drafted in first round​
- Josh Sweat, drafted in fourth round​
So, yeah, F THEM PICKS!​



He forgot the Eagles were going to take Alim McNeill in the third round back in 2021 but the Lions traded up to nab him. They settled for Milton Williams a couple picks later.

Just keep drafting ED, DI, IOL & LB. It would be foolish to give up the competitive advantage Holmes has in the draft. Fill holes with reasonable FAs and draft for talent.
100% agree. Trust the process that has turned the worst NFL franchise into a contender.
That is great for when you are trying to BUILD a team. That isn't the goal anymore.

Go ahead and keep building. That won't equal a Super Bowl.

Why you wasting time posting here when your keen eye is needed in the GM ranks?

I’m putting my trust in the 2x defending champ NFL Executive of Year. He knows what they need and how to go about it far better than I.

At some point you stop trying to build a team and you make moves to win a Super Bowl.
Rams traded for Stafford.
Philly signing Saquon.

It's time the Lions make a power move to win it all.

Also, this same GM passed on Jordan Davis for Jamo and Jalen Carter for Gibbs.
The GM who took those two just won a Super Bowl.

It's ok to say he isn't perfect.

Jordan Davis lol? The guy who has never lived up to his draft hype and was 4th on team in DI snaps even though he was healthy all year?

Cool, cool.

Jalen Carter was never on Detroit’s board. At any time, at any price. You don’t like the emphasis on culture & fit, you’re tilting at windmills.

FTR, it was going to be Witherspoon until Seattle took him. Without the trade back they don’t get the extra pick that yielded LaPorta. It wasn’t Gibbs over Carter, it was both over the manchild.
 
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This Philadelphia Eagles defense proves the Lions should do whatever they have to do to go get Myles Garrett. Period.

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Eagles DL and how they acquired them:​
- Nolan Smith, drafted in first round​
- Jalen Carter, drafted in first round​
- Jordan Davis, drafted in first round​
- Brandon Graham, drafted in first round​
- Josh Sweat, drafted in fourth round​
So, yeah, F THEM PICKS!​



He forgot the Eagles were going to take Alim McNeill in the third round back in 2021 but the Lions traded up to nab him. They settled for Milton Williams a couple picks later.

Just keep drafting ED, DI, IOL & LB. It would be foolish to give up the competitive advantage Holmes has in the draft. Fill holes with reasonable FAs and draft for talent.
100% agree. Trust the process that has turned the worst NFL franchise into a contender.
That is great for when you are trying to BUILD a team. That isn't the goal anymore.

Go ahead and keep building. That won't equal a Super Bowl.

Why you wasting time posting here when your keen eye is needed in the GM ranks?

I’m putting my trust in the 2x defending champ NFL Executive of Year. He knows what they need and how to go about it far better than I.

At some point you stop trying to build a team and you make moves to win a Super Bowl.
Rams traded for Stafford.
Philly signing Saquon.

It's time the Lions make a power move to win it all.

Also, this same GM passed on Jordan Davis for Jamo and Jalen Carter for Gibbs.
The GM who took those two just won a Super Bowl.

It's ok to say he isn't perfect.

Jordan Davis lol? The guy who has never lived up to his draft hype and was 4th on team in DI snaps even though he was healthy all year?

Cool, cool.

Jalen Carter was never on Detroit’s board. At any time, at any price. You don’t like the emphasis on culture & fit, you’re tilting at windmills.

FTR, it was going to be Witherspoon until Seattle took him. Without the trade back they don’t get the extra pick that yielded LaPorta. It wasn’t Gibbs over Carter, it was both over the manchild.

I would take Davis over Jamo and you can't say it was Carter over both. They would have picked up another back or tight end. So it is Gibbs and Laporta vs Carter and ???

Plus if Brad liked Laporta or Gibbs that much he would have made another move to get one or both. He has shown several times he will make a move to get the guy he wants. The Lions could have moved up from 18 to get Gibbs instead of Campbell.

I hated the fact that the took Carter off their board.
 
you can't say it was Carter over both. They would have picked up another back or tight end. So it is Gibbs and Laporta vs Carter and ???

What are you on about?

Detroit's Day 1 & Day 2 draft picks going into the draft:
  • 6th (Stafford trade)
  • 18th (ours)
  • 48th (ours)
  • 55th (Hock trade)
  • 81st (ours)
Traded #6 + #81
Received #12 (Gibbs) + #34

We don't get LaPorta because we don't have an early 2nd round pick without moving back. Back to back TEs came off at 34/35.

At 48 (moved up to 45th) we took Branch.

Where is this phantom pick whereby we draft "another back or tight end"?



I hated the fact that the took Carter off their board.

This is like saying I hate that the team is downtown againn or I hate that we wear black uniforms.

We were never taking Carter, but once we moved back that was confirmed - off the board at #9.

Again - if we don't move back, we don't get LaPorta.
 
That is a definite concern not being able to start the season suggests he will have trouble with conditioning and agility.
Likely to not be at his best until the year after.
Disappointing to hear that Broderick Martin is still developmental. Lions were patient with Levi and it paid off but now are ironically in danger of losing him and to keep him may need to pay more than they would like.

Levi had Power 5 tape to back up that belief.

I hade never understood 3 picks to land BM. He was going to be there in the 5th. Gonna move up Day 2, then take a traits guy like Kobe Turner. Holmes was impressed with his size. Not his athleticism, he’s always been a soft body and his play strength is below average.

EDIT: Moro Ojomo had awesome run D tape at Texas. Eagles got him in the 7th & basically red shirted him. Huge Y2 leap, pretty good rotational guy. He is where Brodric should be at - and he was taken like 140 picks later.

Martin has always had a terrible pad level with questionable work ethic. The kid who brings home Cs every semester but promises next term he’s going to really buckle down and apply himself.

Ifeatu Melifonwu & Levi Onwuzurike earned patience IMO, you knew there was upside. It’s like Brad cannot admit he whiffed. Doesn’t matter, he’s still crushing his job, nobody bats 1.000.

You already know how I feel about BM. I went to 2 open practices last year and out of all the lineman BM just looks like a slow, fat DT. Reader looks heavy but at least he has some thickness in his mass, BM just looks like a fat kid who only played football because he was huge, but never got into any kind of shape. With as good as Holmes has been I still don`t know what he saw in Martin.

Zero production from a third rd lineman is not good.

The game he did play he showed nothing other than get pushed around way to easy for his size.

Which is what he looked like at Western Kentucky and the Shrine Bowl.

It's like every year you go through this with a bunch a players.
  • OK, here's a guy who doesn't have the best production or tape, it's apparent he has bad technique, but since he's very athletic, we can coach him up. (Kobe Turner)
  • Here's another guy who is great versus the run, doesn't have a plan to rush the passer, and he is undersized for NFL IOL at 284. But the tape! Man does this kid understand leverage and how to effectively use his hands. (Moro Ojomo)
  • Or we could take this big kid who has poor technique and is not athletic and oh by the way doesn't have the burning desire work ethic we love. But wow is he big. (Brodric Martin)
Huh?
I'm certainly not defending the Martin pick, but it seems the primary challenge in drafting, especially in the later rounds, is figuring out which flaws are fixable and which are fatal.

I know there are probably some traits which are stickier than others, though I don't claim to know which are which. I remember when Josh Allen was drafted, everyone "knew" that if you had a low completion percentage in college, that would carry over to the pros. (And ever since Allen showed he was the exception, he's probably helped a lot of undeserving dudes get drafted higher than they should have).

We're not talking late rounds - Turner went #89, Martin went #96 (projected to go 150-180.) There was NO VALUE taking him Day 2. Ojomo was projected to go late Day 2, early Day 3 - massive value.
 
I hated the fact that the took Carter off their board.
Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell have said all along that talent alone would not determine who they picked. They wanted players with high football character and other intangibles. They want players who live and breathe football. That's how they have been since day one. If they suddenly changed course just because of talent they would have lost all credibility.

The Lions had a great finish to the 2022 season and there were finally signs that the culture might be changing. They were finally building something. As great of a talent as Carter is, I think taking him could have stalled if not stopped the progress they made in changing the culture. The last thing they needed was a player with character concerns that didn't always practice hard.
 
you can't say it was Carter over both. They would have picked up another back or tight end. So it is Gibbs and Laporta vs Carter and ???

What are you on about?

Detroit's Day 1 & Day 2 draft picks going into the draft:
  • 6th (Stafford trade)
  • 18th (ours)
  • 48th (ours)
  • 55th (Hock trade)
  • 81st (ours)
Traded #6 + #81
Received #12 (Gibbs) + #34

We don't get LaPorta because we don't have an early 2nd round pick without moving back. Back to back TEs came off at 34/35.

At 48 (moved up to 45th) we took Branch.

Where is this phantom pick whereby we draft "another back or tight end"?



I hated the fact that the took Carter off their board.

This is like saying I hate that the team is downtown againn or I hate that we wear black uniforms.

We were never taking Carter, but once we moved back that was confirmed - off the board at #9.

Again - if we don't move back, we don't get LaPorta.

If Holmes really loved Laporta they might have still made moves to get him. Would have cost extra capital? Sure, but we have seen him move up many of times.
 
you can't say it was Carter over both. They would have picked up another back or tight end. So it is Gibbs and Laporta vs Carter and ???

What are you on about?

Detroit's Day 1 & Day 2 draft picks going into the draft:
  • 6th (Stafford trade)
  • 18th (ours)
  • 48th (ours)
  • 55th (Hock trade)
  • 81st (ours)
Traded #6 + #81
Received #12 (Gibbs) + #34

We don't get LaPorta because we don't have an early 2nd round pick without moving back. Back to back TEs came off at 34/35.

At 48 (moved up to 45th) we took Branch.

Where is this phantom pick whereby we draft "another back or tight end"?



I hated the fact that the took Carter off their board.

This is like saying I hate that the team is downtown againn or I hate that we wear black uniforms.

We were never taking Carter, but once we moved back that was confirmed - off the board at #9.

Again - if we don't move back, we don't get LaPorta.

If Holmes really loved Laporta they might have still made moves to get him. Would have cost extra capital? Sure, but we have seen him move up many of times.

Which is an entirely different draft. The salient point I was pushing back on is it wasn't Gibbs over Carter, it was the move back trade over Carter. It was Gibbs + LaPorta over Carter.

Seems kind of obstinate to cling to your point. It wasn't 1 for 1, it was 2 for 1 after the tradeback. Creating different scenarios (additional trades) is admitting as much. Fine.

Again, you can't legislate facts.
  • The Lions - as they should - play downtown.
  • Some don't care for the black uniforms - too bad, wasn't your call, it is what it is.
  • They were never drafting Carter. Unless you are replacing Holmes & Campbell.
 
The strength of the 2025 draft class is the sheer volume of impactful Edge Rushers.

But noooooooo...let's throw those picks away, eh. Maybe toss in one of the under 25 studs since the Browns don't want to make a deal right now. Why, you might ask?
  • Why would anyone want to take advantage of the competitive advantage Holmes and his staff gives us over the rest of the NFL?
  • Why would they want to draft and develop a 21 or 22 year old who will keep getting better when they could mortgage the future by the instant gratification of a proven player 8-9 years older?
  • After playing .771 ball for the last 48 g (37-11) - since three Halloweens ago - this regime needs to go away from their core philosophy.
Mensa level logic at work here.
 
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Initial impressions: If Lions seek a pocket-crushing edge to complement Hutchinson, draft offers several options


When the Detroit Lions were consistently bad and frequently selected in the top 10, it was easy to start thinking about the draft well before the regular season ended. Nowadays, it's essentially an afterthought until February.

Ahead of last year's combine, I had a cram session similar to preparing for a college exam. I rounded up several top-100 lists from analysts, creating a consensus position-by-position list of the prospects. I then focused on what I viewed as Detroit's top needs heading into the draft.

For the next two weeks, I watched some tape (2-3 games) of those 70 or so players, jotting down 1-3 paragraphs of shorthand notes. That way, when I showed up to Indianapolis, I would at least be familiar with the talent and have a plan of attack.

In the spirit of continually trying new things with this platform, I'm taking the same approach this year, only formatting those notes so that I can share them with readers. I believe there’s value in sharing these initial, film-based observations of the 2025 draft class to help those of you who don't consume mock drafts year-round.

As noted, I’m going to concentrate on Detroit's perceived positions of need. For example, I won’t be spending much time on this year's crop of quarterbacks. We'll begin this experimental series with the edge rushers. The group of 17 prospects will be sorted into three categories: Top of the board, other first-round considerations and Day 2 options.

With the first-rounders, I'm not limiting it to players who will likely be available at No. 28, when the Lions are first scheduled to pick. I'm working under the assumption general manager Brad Holmes could trade up for the right player, as he did with wide receiver Jameson Williams and cornerback Terrion Arnold in recent years.

I acknowledge this list may not include every player in your top 100. Remember, I'm working from a loose consensus. Each sub-list will be in alphabetical order.

Top of the board​

Abdul Carter, Penn State​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-3, 252 pounds

2024 stats: 16 games, 68 tackles (24 for a loss), 12 sacks, 66 QB pressures


Penn State typically deployed Carter well wide of the right tackle, often in a 9-technique, where he rushed from a 3-point stance. On third downs, he moved around a bit, frequently floating off the ball between the tackles, similar to how the Lions used Za'Darius Smith after acquiring the veteran at the trade deadline.

While watching a dominant Nittany Lion defender wearing No. 11, it's easy to flash back to Micah Parsons coming out in 2021. I'm assuming Carter is a little smaller than he's listed, which would make the two nearly the same size. I'm certain Carter will also test exceptionally well when he goes through the drills at the combine or his pro day.

Carter has an electric first step, quickly closing ground on the right tackle and forcing them to react. The defender's preferred route is around the edge, which he gets with impressive frequency.

As a run defender, Carter is average at the point of attack. Still, he demonstrates impressive awareness and instincts in pursuit, often scraping over the top to provide overlapping support. Doing this, he's occasionally afforded an opportunity to showcase his sideline-to-sideline speed to make a tackle.

First-round talent​

Mike Green, Marshall​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-3, 251 pounds (Senior Bowl)

2024 stats: 13 games, 84 tackles (23 for a loss), 17.0 sacks, 59 QB pressures


Green rushes from a two-point stance. He has a quick first step, with the ankle flexibility to get low and tightly bend under and around the outside shoulder of any offensive tackle. He’s equally adept at getting narrow and working a swim move to cross the face of the tackle. He’ll use that same setup to get the blocker leaning inside before deploying a lightning-quick spin move back to the outside.

He doesn’t regularly lean into power with his pass-rush move sets, but he has some pop in his hands. This was best demonstrated during a Senior Bowl practice when Green ran through Oregon offensive lineman Josh Conerly Jr.

Green uses active hands to keep blockers off his body. You can see a more advanced understanding of leverage, likely cultivated through his experience as a top-tier high school wrestler. He’ll take on pulling blocks and set an edge, rarely staying stuck on blocks. He quickly disengages while tracking the ball.

James Pearce, Tennessee​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-5, 245 pounds

2024 stats: 13 games, 38 tackles (13 for a loss), 7.5 sacks, 55 QB pressures


Lean and long, Pearce is presented as a speed rusher. Still, he has a surprising amount of pop on first contact, regularly generating knockback when converting speed to power through a bull rush. He also has a developing inside spin counter move that could be good with refinement.

Pearce often rushes from a wide alignment with a rush plan that feels more reactive than pre-planned. When he gets the timing of the snap down, good luck. On those plays, he looks like he’s shot out of a cannon, with a high-end ability to flatten out the top of his rush and accelerate to the quarterback’s drop point.

Pearce is a better run defender than I expected. If he attempts to take a tackle head-on at the point of attack, he’s going to lose more often than not due to the size difference, but Pearce uses his length well to keep offensive linemen off his frame. He should be able to add weight/strength with time in an NFL weight room without sacrificing his athleticism. He could be a three-down player in some schemes, but probably not in Detroit, at least not immediately.

Jack Sawyer, Ohio State​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-5, 260 pounds

2024 stats: 16 games, 59 tackles (nine for a loss), 9.0 sacks, 64 QB pressures


Sawyer typically sets up across the outside shoulder of the right tackle in either a three- or four-point stance. Occasionally, he gets in wider alignments as a stand-up rusher. His style is more about power than speed.

He has an average first step but is eager to embrace contact. He sets firm edges against the run and can drive the tackle back into the pocket as a pass rusher, but he often gets stuck on his blocks.

Sawyer is patient, maintaining the integrity of his rush lanes. He keeps his head up with eyes on the quarterback, mirroring the passer’s pocket movements to limit escape lanes. When the offense utilizes eye candy to his side, Sawyer looks stiff with his short-area movements while working through the play fakes.

Nic Scourton, Texas A&M​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-4, 280 pounds

2024 stats: 12 games, 37 tackles (14 for a loss), 5.0 sacks, 36 QB pressures


Scourton has an impressive frame and is physical at the point of attack. He also possesses better-than-expected athleticism for his size.

He's equally comfortable playing on both sides of the formation, aligning anywhere from a 4i (inside shoulder of the offense tackle), where he plays with his hand on the ground, to out wide in a two-point stance.

His ability to set the edge and play the run immediately stands out, as does the power he packs when attacking the offensive tackle with a bull rush or a long arm. His ability to convert speed to power can be his calling card at the next level. Scourton's quickness off the ball and adequate flexibility allow him to occasionally threaten the outside edge, using his upper body strength to knock away the blocker's hands.

Scourton's usage of countermoves when rushing the passer looks underdeveloped. Texas A&M didn't regularly use him as an inside rusher, but his quickness could give guards problems on passing downs at the next level.

Shemar Stewart, Texas A&M​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-6, 290 pounds

2024 stats: 12 games, 31 tackles, 1.5 sacks, 39 QB pressures


The frame is appealing for a team like the Lions, given their preference for larger edge rushers. Still, Stewart needs some development to tap into his immense physical gifts.

In terms of positives, his long arm is fearsome when he gets his hand into the chest of the blocker. When he utilizes this move effectively, he can quickly crush a pocket. Stewart also offers a good closing burst and consistent effort, allowing him to have an impact as a backside defender against the run.

Leverage and balance are issues. When defending the run, tackles can get under Stewart and drive him out of his gap, occasionally finishing with a pancake. Stewart also struggles to disengage from blocks, limiting his ability to make clean tackles against the run or finish on the quarterback in the pocket.
 

Mykel Williams, Georgia​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-5, 265 pounds

2024 stats: 12 games, 21 tackles (nine for a loss), 5.0 sacks, 26 pressures


The first word that comes to mind when watching Williams play is violent. He lines up all across the front for Georgia and uses his length and clubbing blows from his heavily taped hands to jar blockers back or to the side, creating the space needed to penetrate the pocket. He’s the type of defensive talent that will leave both your body and ego bruised.

Williams doesn’t turn 21 until June, so there’s likely plenty of room for development. Additionally, he saw fewer reps than everyone else on this list because he was limited by an ankle injury the first six weeks of the season. There is a rawness to his rush plan. If a coaching staff can harness his potential, he has the ability to turn into a well-rounded edge with double-digit sack potential.

If there aren’t any off-field or unknown medical concerns, based on his ceiling, I could easily see Williams coming off the board in the top half of the first round.

Day 2 options​


Jordan Burch, Oregon​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-6, 295 pounds

2024 stats: 10 games, 31 tackles (11 for a loss), 8.5 sacks, 32 QB pressures


Burch possesses an impressive burst for his size but doesn’t lean on his power as much as you might expect with his frame. He demonstrates good lateral agility, allowing him to attack offensive tackles in a variety of ways, which he complements with active hands throughout his rush reps.

He had modest sack production throughout his first four seasons, including three at South Carolina, but turned a corner as a fifth-year senior with the Ducks. The size, skill set and array of pass-rush moves he demonstrates on his 2024 tape suggest there’s promising potential for the production to port to the next level.

The run defense is less consistent, and despite his listed weight, Burch can get overwhelmed at the point of attack, particularly with some of his interior reps. His pursuit from the backside is tepid. When the play is going away from him, he’s rarely chasing at full speed.

Donovan Ezeiruaku, Boston College​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-2, 248 pounds (Senior Bowl)

2024 stats: 12 games, 80 tackles (21 for a loss), 16.5 sacks 60 QB pressures


Ezeiruaku has a tremendous burst at the snap and uses a stutter step and a ghost move to bend around the outside shoulder of the offensive tackle or slice inside, effectively marrying his hand usage to his lower body to beat blocks. Beyond the ability to win one-on-one, he could be an asset to a defensive front that likes to utilize stunts.

Ezeiruaku doesn’t have the mass or length to regularly utilize power rushes, even transitioning from speed. As a run defender, if he tries to take on blocks, he can be easily displaced.

Where Ezeiruaku thrives in the run game, unlike any other prospect on this list, is block avoidance. He has an impressive sense for timing a punch and moving laterally to avoid it, swimming past the blocker to disrupt plays in the backfield. He also shows good awareness and positioning when defending the zone-reads and play-action boots, possessing the speed to stretch a quarterback keeper wide and limit the damage.

Ashton Gillotte​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-3, 276 pounds

2024 stats: 12 games, 43 tackles (10 for a loss), 4.5 sacks, 57 pressures


Gillotte plays with controlled chaos. He pairs a decent first step and solid power with relentlessly active hands. He makes it challenging for blockers to stalemate his push into the pocket.

He plays hard against the run, setting firm edges and smoothly surfing when defending the read option. When he has a shot at the ball carrier, he consistently wraps them up and gets them to the ground.

Gillotte’s impact as a pass rusher is accentuated by his ability to disrupt from inside lanes. That shows up both with his usage stunts and rushing over the guard, where his quickness gave ACC linemen fits.

Jared Ivey, Ole Miss​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-6, 283 pounds (Senior Bowl)

2024 stats: 12 games, 42 tackles (11 for a loss), 7.0 sacks, 40 QB pressures


In terms of what we think of as fits for Detroit’s style of play — assuming new coordinator Kelvin Sheppard doesn’t unexpectedly initiate a schematic overhaul — Ivey’s tape stands out. He’s outstanding against the run, taking on blocks with heavy hands, holding his ground and shedding to fill the lane and make stops.

As a pass rusher, he’s heavily reliant on speed to power from the edges. However, unlike most of the edge prospects in this class, he was featured more on inside alignments. His first-step quickness gave guards fits, and his ability to slide inside in second- and third-and-long situations can be a valuable trait.

Ivey has a strong fundamental base and an NFL-ready frame, which should allow him to contribute quickly.

Landon Jackson, Arkansas​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-6, 271 pounds (Senior Bowl)

2024 stats: 12 games, 49 tackles (10 for a loss), 6.5 sacks, 35 QB pressures


Arkansas plays a different defensive scheme than most major college programs. The 3-3-5 and 3-2-6 looks often had Jackson on the edge, primarily over left tackle, from the 4i (tackle’s inside shoulder) to the 5-technique (tackle’s outside shoulder).

Jackson is physical at the point of attack, allowing him to play the run well. He’s stout against double teams, conceding minimal ground, and can effectively shed and stop in one-on-one situations.

His pass-rush repertoire is limited because of his below-average flexibility. When he attempts to bend an edge, he’s often driven past the pocket and/or knocked down. He’s better when leaning into his power, although he does have some wiggle and lateral agility, which he uses to cross the tackle’s face to take an inside lane to the QB.

The skill set feels best suited to be a 3-4 end in the NFL.

Kyle Kennard, South Carolina​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-5, 254 pounds

2024 stats: 12 games, 28 tackles (16 for a loss), 11.5 sacks, 39 QB pressures


After four seasons at Georgia Tech, Kennard wrapped his college career with South Carolina, nearly doubling his best single-season sack production. He has a good first step and arguably better second gear, yet he has a surprising lack of bend, which limits his pass-rush ceiling. He gives offensive tackles trouble by beating them to their spot, both inside or out, via that acceleration.

Kennard offers visible length but is inconsistent using it. When he gets his hand into the chest of a blocker with a long arm, he has the lower-body strength to drive them back into the pocket.

As a run defender, he can be disruptive when matched up against a tight end but often gets overwhelmed by an offensive lineman. Kennard uses his length to set an edge. However, he isn’t able to consistently disengage to make stops.

Josaiah Stewart, Michigan​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-1, 248 pounds (Senior Bowl)

2024 stats: 11 games, 33 tackles (13 for a loss), 8.5 sacks, 37 QB pressures


When you first see Stewart step to the line, he doesn't look like the other edge rushers projected to come off the board during the draft's first two days. On the shorter side, he's stocky, almost like a bulky off-ball linebacker. Regardless, it doesn't take long to realize why he works up front.

Stewart has a wicked first step and pit bull-like tenacity. His natural leverage, paired with his burst, allows him to blow by an offensive tackle who isn't fast enough out of his stance. Despite being at a consistent reach disadvantage against the blockers he faces, Stewart isn't afraid to convert his speed into power, barrelling into the chest of the lineman to collapse the pocket.

Against the run, Stewart's acceleration allows him to affect plays from the backside when he's left unblocked. When he does have to contend with a blocker, he uses violent hands to neutralize the blocker's reach to the best of his ability.

Teams will almost certainly be drawn to the combination of burst, competitiveness and relentless motor, even if they don't see him as a three-down edge.

Bradyn Swinson, LSU​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-4, 250 pounds

2024 stats: 13 games, 58 tackles (13 for a loss), 8.5 sacks, 60 QB pressures


Primarily rushing from wider alignments, Swinson mixes speed-to-power rushes with his ability to bend the edge, often marrying the two concepts to create separation with a bull rush to slip around the tackle’s outside shoulder. He offers an impressive ability to close ground once he gets a corner, routinely causing havoc in the pocket.

Swinson’s athleticism also plays a role in coverage. He can quickly drop into a middle-field zone or the flat and shows good positional awareness to disrupt route concepts.

Given his size, it’s not surprising that he’s an average run defender. His lateral agility does aid his effectiveness against zone concepts going in his direction, and his speed gives him opportunities to disrupt from the backside on designs going away from him.

In Detroit, he could be a strong fit for the SAM linebacker role, especially if the team doesn’t re-sign Derrick Barnes.
 

JT Tuimoloau, Ohio State​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-5, 269 pounds

2024 stats: 16 games, 61 tackles (22 for a loss), 12.5 sacks, 51 QB pressures


Something unique about Ohio State is they’ll rush their ends from the same side most of the game before flipping them late in the third quarter or early fourth quarter. That resulted in close to 80% of Tuimoloau’s snaps coming against the left tackle.

It’s interesting to see his pass-rush production, including a conference-leading 12.5 sacks, contrasted against the film. Tuimoloau doesn’t have an elite first step, doesn’t bend the edge particularly well, and he plays with good but not overwhelming power. A lot of his production comes from relentless effort and an ability to shed his blocker and clean up a messy pocket when the quarterback gets funneled into his area.

That same stack-and-shed style is what makes Tuimoloau an excellent run defender. He’s able to maintain his positioning and keep his eyes in the backfield, ditching blocks with relative ease to make stops.

Princely Umanmielen, Ole Miss​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-4, 264 pounds (Senior Bowl)

2024 stats: 12 games, 37 tackles (14 for a loss), 10.5 sacks, 55 QB pressures


Primarily plays from wider alignments, with close to two-thirds of his snaps coming against the left tackle. Umanmielen isn’t necessarily a one-trick pony, but his best ability is bending the edge.

He can accomplish that with straight speed off the snap or a bull-slip rush, where he slides off and around the block after the initial power move. He does have the ability to drive the tackle back with power, but he uses the skill intermittently. When bending, he is able to dip his inside shoulder low while maintaining balance through contact, rounding the hoop with a good pace when he overruns the pocket.

Umanmielen does have some counter-rush moves, including the occasional inside spin. He has the burst and stride length to be more effective at running stunts than he showed in the limited times he ran them at Ole Miss.

As a run defender, he can flatten his pursuit angle and be disruptive from the backside. However, his ability to set an edge against kick-out blocks is inconsistent.

Concluding thoughts​

If we assume the Lions aren't changing too much schematically under new coordinator Kelvin Sheppard, they'll be on the hunt for a pocket-crusher in the mold of Marcus Davenport to complement Aidan Hutchinson. Multiple talents on this list can fill that role, starting with the two Texas A&M standouts.

Dipping further down these initial projections, the play style of Gillotte and Ivey fits. A recurring trait with that group is the combination of size, power, and athleticism, which allows the prospects to be moved inside on passing downs.

Schematically, some of the smaller framed guys like Stewart and Ezeiruaku seemingly make less sense unless the Lions want to revisit the developmental plan they had with Derrick Barnes. They converted him from a college edge rusher to a defender who is comfortable playing off the ball as they are along the line of scrimmage. However, it definitely took time for things to click. The team also attempted it with James Houston before giving up on his development in the middle of last season. Detroit just hasn't had much interest in a pass-rush specialist.
 

First-round talent​

Mike Green, Marshall​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-3, 251 pounds (Senior Bowl)

2024 stats: 13 games, 84 tackles (23 for a loss), 17.0 sacks, 59 QB pressures
This is a guy who impressed me in the film I saw. Probably won't last to 28 but you never know what draft day will bring.
 

First-round talent​

Mike Green, Marshall​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-3, 251 pounds (Senior Bowl)

2024 stats: 13 games, 84 tackles (23 for a loss), 17.0 sacks, 59 QB pressures
This is a guy who impressed me in the film I saw. Probably won't last to 28 but you never know what draft day will bring.

For sure. Could be this year’s Jalx Hunt.

David Walker of Central Arkansas is another small school guy who would be a great flyer late Day 2 or early Day 3.
 

Jack Sawyer, Ohio State​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-5, 260 pounds

2024 stats: 16 games, 59 tackles (nine for a loss), 9.0 sacks, 64 QB pressures
I've seen him mocked to Detroit at 28, would set up a double edge sword using UM and OSU alums.

haha Brad the Uniter

Sawyer or one of the A&M guys - Scouton & Stewart - would be an amazing fit
Yeah but what happens if the Lions lose a home game and their opponent tries to plant their flag at midfield?
 

Jack Sawyer, Ohio State​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-5, 260 pounds

2024 stats: 16 games, 59 tackles (nine for a loss), 9.0 sacks, 64 QB pressures
I've seen him mocked to Detroit at 28, would set up a double edge sword using UM and OSU alums.
Imagine a Houston-Detroit Super Bowl where Stroud and Nico face off against Hutch and Sawyer.

I will say, I've always found it very easy to discard my OSU hate once the guys get to the NFL (well, other than Nick Bosa, but that's not because of his alma mater).
 

Jack Sawyer, Ohio State​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-5, 260 pounds

2024 stats: 16 games, 59 tackles (nine for a loss), 9.0 sacks, 64 QB pressures
I've seen him mocked to Detroit at 28, would set up a double edge sword using UM and OSU alums.
Imagine a Houston-Detroit Super Bowl where Stroud and Nico face off against Hutch and Sawyer.

I will say, I've always found it very easy to discard my OSU hate once the guys get to the NFL (well, other than Nick Bosa, but that's not because of his alma mater).

Yeah I tend to hate racists irrespective of the school they went.



Chris Spielman
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The strength of the 2025 draft class is the sheer volume of impactful Edge Rushers.

But noooooooo...let's throw those picks away, eh. Maybe toss in one of the under 25 studs since the Browns don't want to make a deal right now. Why, you might ask?
  • Why would anyone want to take advantage of the competitive advantage Holmes and his staff gives us over the rest of the NFL?
  • Why would they want to draft and develop a 21 or 22 year old who will keep getting better when they could mortgage the future by the instant gratification of a proven player 8-9 years older?
  • After playing .771 ball for the last 48 g (37-11) - since three Halloweens ago - this regime needs to go away from their core philosophy.
Mensa level logic at work here.

Your logic is great if you just want to be a contender for the next 10 years.

My logic is if you want to win a Super Bowl.

You want to be the Cowboys or do you want a ring?
 

Jack Sawyer, Ohio State​

Listed height/weight: 6-foot-5, 260 pounds

2024 stats: 16 games, 59 tackles (nine for a loss), 9.0 sacks, 64 QB pressures
I've seen him mocked to Detroit at 28, would set up a double edge sword using UM and OSU alums.
Pass on the stiff who struggles to shed blocks. Would rather have their other end by far. Some really good options, but with how deep the class is I'd prefer holding out to the 2nd/3rd.
 
The strength of the 2025 draft class is the sheer volume of impactful Edge Rushers.

But noooooooo...let's throw those picks away, eh. Maybe toss in one of the under 25 studs since the Browns don't want to make a deal right now. Why, you might ask?
  • Why would anyone want to take advantage of the competitive advantage Holmes and his staff gives us over the rest of the NFL?
  • Why would they want to draft and develop a 21 or 22 year old who will keep getting better when they could mortgage the future by the instant gratification of a proven player 8-9 years older?
  • After playing .771 ball for the last 48 g (37-11) - since three Halloweens ago - this regime needs to go away from their core philosophy.
Mensa level logic at work here.

Your logic is great if you just want to be a contender for the next 10 years.

My logic is if you want to win a Super Bowl.

You want to be the Cowboys or do you want a ring?

You 100% know that will be the results on both counts, eh. Impressive!

When you get a sec, would you please DM me tonight’s Power Ball numbers?

TIA
 

Jack Sawyer​

OHIO STATE
EDGE

Prospect Info​

COLLEGE Ohio State
HOMETOWN
Pickerington, OH
CLASS Senior

HEIGHT 6’ 5’’
WEIGHT 260 lbs
ARM - -
HAND - -

Prospect Grade​

6.36

Will Eventually Be Plus Starter

Analysis​


By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst

Overview​


Dense-framed, even-front defensive end whose game is built for power but not speed. He has short arms and slow power to neutralize and overcome run blocks. However, he lacks a quick-win first step or twitchy stack-and-shed move. He locates the football and racks up tackles when runners near his gaps. He’s a force-based rusher using strong hands, a relentless motor and a pocket-caving charge to run up pressure totals, but his rush lacks quickness. He could see more interior rush opportunities for shorter trips into the pocket. Sawyer is suited for box-based football, which could cap his pro ceiling, but his demeanor, toughness and activity level provide a higher floor.

Strengths​

  • Posted 4.5 sacks and 6 pass breakups during Ohio State’s four-game playoff run to the title.
  • Beats back-side cutoffs with quick reaction to lateral steps.
  • Sets a strong edge and can release back inside to tackle B-gap.
  • Strength makes run game wins feel inevitable if a blocker doesn’t finish him.
  • Instinctive talent for finding the tackle when he is in the vicinity.
  • Accurate hands find wrist control to deconstruct pass-pro punch.
  • Uses two-hand charge and long-arm stab to crater the pocket.
  • Keeps feet moving, making it tougher to mirror him.

Weaknesses​

  • Gaps close down on him as a mid-twitch penetrator.
  • Needs to get hands involved more quickly to mitigate his lack of reach.
  • Missing functional speed to spill action wide in contain.
  • Modest upfield burst rarely allows him to beat tackles to the junction point.
  • Wide base limits quickness and success of his inside moves.
  • Lack of bend hinders ability to get into the pocket.
 

JT Tuimoloau​

OHIO STATE
EDGE

Prospect Info​

COLLEGE Ohio State
HOMETOWN Edgewood, WA
CLASS Senior

HEIGHT 6’ 5’’
WEIGHT 269 lbs
ARM - -
HAND - -

Prospect Grade​

6.34

Will Eventually Be Plus Starter

Analysis​


By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst

Overview​

Rugged edge defender with the size, length and toughness to play up or down in hybrid fronts. Tuimoloau plays to his size. His game revolves around power and force. He uses well-timed strikes and good length to stay separated and shed the block cleanly. He plays hard but has average pursuit quickness outside the box and trouble holding his ground against drive blockers in-line. Tuimoloau's power rush helped him tear through the expanded College Football Playoff, with 6.5 sacks over four games, but his rush plan and hand work need refinement to maintain the momentum he built as a rusher during the 2024 season. He’s unlikely to become a star but his traits and demeanor fit the profile of a good NFL starter.

Strengths​

  • Compact build with strong core and ideal length.
  • Plays with excellent coordination between hands and feet.
  • Punches firmly into extension and locks out as edge setter.
  • Sheds blockers quickly with technique and power.
  • Uses length to long-arm tackles deep into the pocket.
  • Long hop-step and a well-timed chop help trim the edge.
  • Has an inside spin in his back pocket for further development.

Weaknesses​

  • Average bend with trouble anchoring down against power.
  • Lacks lateral quickness to force outside runs against the boundary.
  • Basic rush plan revolves almost exclusively around power.
  • Missing upfield acceleration to beat tackles around the top.
  • Below-average hands and counters to create quick wins.
 
PFF has an article out today highlighting the biggest offseason decision for each team. I would put this one third - in my mind ED, DI, & IOL are more critical needs - but still some interesting thoughts.



DETROIT LIONS

The overarching storyline for the Lions this offseason will be the loss of both coordinators, but this team has another impending concern coming at cornerback. Carlton Davis III, Kindle Vildor and Emmanuel Moseley are all set to become free agents, leaving general manager Brad Holmes in a slightly awkward position.

Re-signing Davis would make sense, especially given his strong performance (72.1 PFF coverage grade, six pass breakups) in his first year in Detroit. But Davis’ price and injury history could offer some worries. If Davis walks, could Holmes instead angle for someone like Byron Murphy Jr. or go for a cheaper add like Kristian Fulton or Nate Hobbs?

It’s crucial to remember just how much the Lions invested in cornerbacks in last year’s draft, selecting Terrion Arnold and Ennis Rakestraw Jr. with their top two picks. Arnold (50.2 PFF coverage grade) endured a tough rookie season, but he’ll likely get another season of starting experience in 2025. Even though Rakestraw played in just six games, the Lions — fast becoming one of the better draft-and-develop teams in the NFL — probably won’t give up on him that quickly. All in all, that could lead to starting a more inexperienced group at cornerback, with adding one in this year’s draft a potential priority.
 
The overarching storyline for the Lions this offseason will be the loss of both coordinators, but this team has another impending concern coming at cornerback. Carlton Davis III, Kindle Vildor and Emmanuel Moseley are all set to become free agents, leaving general manager Brad Holmes in a slightly awkward position.
Davis would be the only real loss imo of those 3. Resign him and we have CD, Arnold and Amik as starters and Rakestraw as depth. Maybe draft a CB in the middle rounds. :shrug:
 
The overarching storyline for the Lions this offseason will be the loss of both coordinators, but this team has another impending concern coming at cornerback. Carlton Davis III, Kindle Vildor and Emmanuel Moseley are all set to become free agents, leaving general manager Brad Holmes in a slightly awkward position.
Davis would be the only real loss imo of those 3. Resign him and we have CD, Arnold and Amik as starters and Rakestraw as depth. Maybe draft a CB in the middle rounds. :shrug:

Last year there was an incredible amount of depth in the CB class. Pretty sure there were at least 5-6 Day 3 CBs who led their team in coverage snaps.

I don’t have a good sense where this years class is at as far as DBs go. Front 7 seems like a lot of depth, ditto for IOL.
 
Your logic is great if you just want to be a contender for the next 10 years.

My logic is if you want to win a Super Bowl.
What says you can't do both? The Lions absolutely can win the Super Bowl without a major trade or free agent signing.

What says they can't trade for Garrett, Micah or sign another player and be good for the next ten years and have a better chance to win a super bowl?
 
Gonna post a couple of Mock Offseason writeups from Reddit from a longtime poster there (Bo77) who annually does a bang up job.

First one focuses on the trenches, second one is a go-for-broke aggressive approach.
 

Bo77 Mock Offseason, Version 1 - Trenches​



Hi folks! We're back for the offseason portion here that is my personal favorite, or maybe speciality is the better word there as winning games is actually probably my favorite. The Lions finished the season as back-to-back NFC North winners, and the top seed in the NFC, though fell to the upstart Washington Commanders in their first playoff game this season. In some ways, it's a nice new experience to actually be able to be let down like this, as it means you're good enough to have lofty expectations and that's a nice change of pace from just about every other Lions season beforehand. But, retooling the team is now the move, so let's dive into it.

NOTE: I take a lot of time to do these posts and such, and thus I do not really care to suffer disingenuous posters, arguments, etc. Some have noted in the past that they have been blocked by me, and this is just fair warning that people who choose to be combative and disingenuous are promptly blocked, as this is the internet and I do not care to waste my time arguing with folks looking to flex on my work. So for example, mock offseason are theoretical scenarios that explore differing styles of team building that the Lions could choose to deploy. Thus they differ, and some are more conservative and some are more aggressive. Some choose to go crazy in some ways that the Lions have the ability to, and others are more practical. So do not mistake this as what I am suggesting or recommending what they could do.

As I've noted previously, I really like doing some pattern recognition pieces to how the Lions operate and thus try and project in a similar manner. I usually do a lot better than most out there, but it's still pretty imperfect overall, and thus should be managed accordingly.

But anyways, excited to be back with some posts. Lions sit in a really pretty position to be able to retool their roster and come back next year in a dominant way.

Also fwiw, would not surprise me if Lions QB Teddy Bridgewater is hired on to replace J.T. Barrett as assistant QB coach.

Internal Extensions and Cap Space​

Taking a quick look at the roster, the cap space, the future roster construction, and draft pick allotment and you come away with the idea that the Lions will be able to spend another season spending significantly to retain their core before the budget starts to tighten a bit further. Over the Cap, perhaps the top of the line resource when it comes to roster and contract tools to look at, currently projects the Lions at around $46.7 million in cap space this upcoming offseason, good for ninth in the league.

However, the Lions longer term cap space begins to take a bit of a hit in the years after that, dropping to:

  • A projected cap space of $22.1 million in 2026.
  • A projected cap space of $123.1 million in 2027.
For reference, both of these rank 29th in the league, out of 32 total teams.

Now, the very good news is that the reason this is so is because Detroit has already been proactive to extend and retain several core pieces that theoretically can propel their success into the coming years, signing players like Penei Sewell, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Alim McNeill and Jared Goff to major money contracts.

So, ultimately, the Lions do have one more season where they can actually make a more aggressive play, but we're going to start by doing Brad Holmes' own method here: retaining the Lions core players first. Well, sort of, but let's dive into the specifics.

There are a few players that are extension eligible, meaning not players who are set to become free agents if not extended, but rather players who are now eligible to negotiate additional years onto their contracts, usually at top dollar rates. The main names this discussion will focus around are:

  • EDGE Aidan Hutchinson
  • S Kerby Joseph
  • WR Jameson Williams
Now a note here: The Lions are not cheap, and hometown discounts really aren't a thing for players in their prime, so banish any stupidity that tries to convince you that most of these guys would be receiving less than very significant money that puts them in the top-5 to top-10 or so of their positions. For reference, the Lions signed Penei Sewell to the largest OL contract ever, and gave Amon-Ra the most guaranteed ever for a WR. So when it comes to extensions for players like Aidan Hutchinson, who was leading the league in several pass rushing metrics at the time of his injury, and Kerby Joseph, a First-Team All-Pro at his position this past season, do not expect anything less than elite money. WR Jameson Williams is probably a different story, as he's perhaps the one most likely to receive an extension outside of the top-10 at his position, given that his continued suspensions and some injury history have given him a little less time to make as clear a case for that kind of money.

Currently, my projection for EDGE Aidan Hutchinson is a July or August extension most likely, as his will be more commanding than the others and thus leaving a little more flexibility through this summer is usually the more prudent approach. As for the numbers, I would suggest we'll probably see something that comes in north of $30 million per year, as we currently have Joey Bosa commanding the top number with $34 million, but then behind him just a couple of $28 million per year players in Josh Allen (JAC), T.J. Watt, and Brian Burns.

A four-year deal at about $122 million is currently where I'd project it, and also I believe what Spotrac projects, a $30.5 million per year deal. I am not going to bore everyone with the details of what it'd potentially look like on a contract chart, but knowing Mike Disner, it'll likely include a pair of void years to spread some cap hit from the signing bonus out, probably with an actual bonus in the $40 million range that would raise his cap hit from like $11.4 million this season to $18.1 million, but that helps you save a good chunk in the long run and push the cap burden forward where the Lions, as mentioned, can more easily absorb it in their current projections.
 

Bo77 Mock Offseason, Version 1 - Trenches (continued)​


The next one up is S Kerby Joseph, and I am rolling with a top-5 contract for Joseph from Detroit, so projecting a 4-year deal worth $72 million, just north of what the Packers signed S Xavier McKinney for last offseason. McKinney is a pretty good comparison, as while he wasn't an All-Pro like Joseph was, he was an elite player hitting the market at 25 years old. Joseph is an All-Pro and will be a year younger on the market, at 24-years old. So a slight uptick there.
Right now, I am going to hold off on an extension projection here for WR Jameson Williams, as I think he's going to be third fiddle for the Lions in terms of the order they try to retain him. Joseph probably gets his deal first by nature of his total amount being the cheapest, while Hutchinson takes priority as the most important. Williams is a bit of a wild card, and I'm holding off for now.

Internal Free Agents

Now we shift to the re-signing feature here. For this scenario, I am going to proceed with the idea that RG Kevin Zeitler retires from the NFL and calls it a career. In the next one of these I do, I will have him stick it out, but this one includes him retiring.
Cuts
There are probably a few cuts the Lions might consider making, but these are the two I am going to incorporate in here:


  • cutting LG Graham Glasgow, which saves Detroit exactly $5 million to designate him as a post-June 1st cut (released before June 1 in case anyone is confused on how that works).
  • cutting EDGE Za'Darius Smith, which saves Detroit $5.7 million outright, and zero dead cap there, which is a nice touch.
The other ones you'll see bandied about are LB Jalen Reeves-Maybin, DT D.J. Reader, and WR Kalif Raymond, but I am choosing to leave them all on board for the time being, as I think there's enough value still to be had.

For Glasgow and Smith, both are aging veterans past their prime who are perhaps still viewed more capably by fans than they really are. Smith helped as a midseason addition with Hutchinson out, but is not really a necessity to keep, and the $5.7 million is questionable there. Glasgow's value is fine if the Lions think he'll bounce back after a tough year, but as he's set to turn 33-years old this season, that's probably not the best bet to make. Glasgow could be a candidate to revise his contract and take a voluntary pay cut lest he be cut, which I do think is a moderately high likelihood all things considered, but I'll explore that in the next round of this, where I'll be keeping Glasgow and Zeitler and looking at addressing some other spots. This one is a more OL heavy retooling, so that means Glasgow is cut, and Zeitler retires.

Restructures

I am going to do two restructures here, as there are two moves I think work pretty cleanly for Detroit. The first is restructuring QB Jared Goff, as OTC estimates a restructure of Goff would free up about $13.4 million for the Lions. And the next is OT Taylor Decker, which frees up $10.3 million. Now, some may ask "why" on Decker, but the answer is actually pretty simple. It only pushes an additional $4 million into the Lions cap liabilities for the 2026 offseason, which means if the Lions cut bait on Decker after this year, it's more on the books still in 2026 when he's no longer around. However, two realities exist, which is that even with the added expense there, freeing up $10 million this year still allows portions of that to be rolled into 2026, meaning the Lions can essentially treat it like just $6 million in free agent and effectively negate the downside with rollover cap (like they've done in prior years under Disner). The second one is that, even with the Lions projected to be now be about -$20 million in the hole in 2026 with the extensions I made above, if the Lions are ready to cut bait on Decker (who is aging and on a bit of a decline), then cutting him post-June 1st next offseason cleans a full $18.2 million off the books, essentially wiping any deficit the Lions would be starting with, and that's aside from an even better extension construction from Disner than I probably managed myself.

The only other restructure to maybe consider is WR Amon-Ra St. Brown, but it only frees up about $5 million, and that's usually not enough margin for GMs to pull the trigger.

Re-Signings

The following are exclusive rights free agents, and thus pretty much a total lock to have their contracts exercised by Detroit, a mandatory one-year deal at the veteran minimum at their spot:


iOL Michael NieseOT Connor Galvin
LB Trevor Nowaske
EDGE Mitchell Agude

Again, no sense in not bringing them back, as the Lions need to fill a 90-man roster and these are cheap and easy moves that almost every single team makes.

Here are the extensions I am going with for internal free agents:

PosNameYrs2025 Cap Hit
LBBen Niemann1$1.5 million
GKayode Awosika1$1.75 million*
RBCraig Reynolds1$1.75 million*
OTDan Skipper1$1.2 million
DLJohn Cominsky2$8 million
CBCarlton Davis3$48.6 million
CBEmmanuel Moseley1$1.2 million

*- both are restricted free agents, meaning there are different levels of tenders that could apply for each, but I do not think either warrants the $3.3 million ROFR tender (undrafted), so a deal before free agency with the veteran minimum + a decent signing bonus probably works here. TBD of course.

Here, the Lions go grab EDGE Chauncey Golston from Dallas, a Detroit native who stepped up after some injuries in Dallas and posted 5.5 sacks and nearly 40 pressures in extended action. He's capable of being a quality pass rusher across from Hutchinson in rotation with Paschal and Cominsky and anyone else.

DT David Onyemata is a projected cap cut for the Falcons, as he's still an effective player in his early 30s but a one dimensional run-stopper. Still, the Lions need some help at DT with Onwuzurike gone in this scenario, McNeill still recovering and nothing else proven besides DJ Reader.

OL Jedrick Wills is a major reclamation project, as he was quite poppy this past season in Cleveland, but kicking him inside to guard and letting him work under Hank Fraley could bring out the best of him, an explosive, kick *** player who landed in the first-round out of Alabama. CB Brandon Stephens is also on there as a bit of a "this guy wasn't good as a starter last year but as a backup for the Lions, that sounds fine" type of addition. He was a big, longer, press cornerback coming out of SMU, so might click for him in Detroit's press Cover 1 man heavy scheme.

WR Mack Hollins is a serviceable WR3 in the bigger WR role that Tim Patrick occupied. He put up over 30 catches including 5 touchdowns in Buffalo. And S Nick Scott is a veteran, versatile safety that Holmes played a role in drafting to LAR back in 2019. He'd give them some solid depth behind Branch and Joseph.

Shane Lemieux, Jason Pinnock, and Eric Banks all represent various depth adds.
 

Bo77 Mock Offseason, Version 1 - Trenches (continued)​

NFL Draft

Here is what we went with for the Draft for this one:
Picks are estimated at the moment until compensatory picks are confirmed. In the meantime, these are what Tankathon currently shows.


PickPos.PlayerSchool
Round 1, Pick #28OLAireronte ErseryMinnesota
Round 2, Pick #60EDGEJosiah StewartMichigan
Round 3, Pick #101CBDorian StrongVirginia Tech
Round 4, Pick #132WRJack BechTCU
Round 6, Pick #198TEBryson NesbitNorth Carolina
Round 7, Pick #227EDGEEthan DownsOklahoma
Round 7, Pick #230OLMarcus WehrMontana State
Round 7, Pick #246LBJailin WalkerIndiana

Starting it off with Aireronte Ersery, a 6-6, 340 pound three year starting left tackle for the Gophers, Ersery has had a strong start at the Senior Bowl, and could be an intriguing multi-positional option for the Lions as a guard in 2025 and potential replacement for Taylor Decker (at either left or right tackle depending on Sewell) down the road. He's long, technically savvy, and has plenty of power to dominate for the Lions early.

Then in the second round, we have Josiah Stewart, a former Coastal Carolina transfer to Michigan. He's a little undersized for a true DE role, but Holmes has always had a penchant for smaller, hard charging SAM type pass rushers and Stewart is an elite version of that, and really fits the mold of a Detroit Lions football player.

CB Dorian Strong is another big, athletic press cover corner to develop. The Lions double dipped last year, but still need to invest in that room until the depth becomes solidified. WR Jack Bech is a nice prospect who fits the smooth separator mold that Holmes has prioritized amongst WRs. Very willing as a blocker too, definitely a Lions kind of dude. TE Bryson Nesbit is a flex TE who excels at route crispness and pass catching more so than in-line blocking, but could find a role as a reserve TE for the Lions.

And then with the trio of seventh-round picks, some upside shots on Ethan Downs, a hard charging edge rusher needing more consistency and technique, Marcus Wehr, another experienced OL who could contribute in multiple spots, and Jailin Walker is a smaller, chase linebacker with good IQ that can help on special teams.

2025 Lions Mock Offseason Depth Chart​


Head Coach: Dan Campbell, fifth season in Detroit (41-30 record, 2 NFC North titles)

Offensive Coordinator: John Morton, second season in Detroit, first in current role

Pos.|Starter|Rotational|Depth|
|QB|Jared Goff|Hendon Hooker|Jake Fromm|
|RB|J. Gibbs and D. Montgomery|Craig Reynolds|Sione Vaki|
|WR|Jameson Williams|Antoine Green|Ronnie Bell|
|WR|Amon-Ra St. Brown|Kalif Raymond|Tom Kennedy|
|WR|Mack Hollins|Jake Bech||
|TE|Sam LaPorta|Brock Wright|Bryson Nesbit|
|LT|Taylor Decker|Dan Skipper|Giovanni Manu|
|LG|Aireronte Ersery|Michael Niese|Marcus Wehr|
|C|Frank Ragnow|Shane Lemieux|Kingsley Eguakun|
|RG|Christian Mahogany|Jedrick Wills|Netane Muti|
|RT|Penei Sewell|Colby Sorsdal|Connor Galvin|

Defensive Coordinator: Kelvin Sheppard, fourth season in Detroit, first in current role

Pos.StarterRotationalDepth
EDGEAidan HutchinsonJoshua PaschalIsaac Ukwu
DTD.J. ReaderBrodric MartinChris Smith
DTAlim McNeillDavid OnyemataMekhi Wingo
DEChauncey GolstonJohn CominskyEric Banks
SAMJosiah StewartEthan DownsNate Lynn
ILBJack CampbellTrevor NowaskeAbraham Beauplan
ILBAlex AnzaloneJalen Reeves-MaybinJailin Walker
CBCarlton DavisBrandon StephensMaurice Norris
CBTerrion ArnoldDorian StrongStanley Tho.-Oliver
NICKELAmik RobertsonEnnis RakestrawErick Hallett
SSBrian BranchNick ScottLoren Strickland
FSKerby JosephJason Pinnock
 
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Bo77 Mock Offseason, Version 2 - Aggression!​

Extensions & Internal Free Agency​


For this one, I am going to go ahead and plug in the extension for Lions EDGE Aidan Hutchinson that Lionswire's Jeff Risen is projecting, north of $34 million per year for this one.
I am also going to include the deal for S Kerby Joseph I did last time, but hold off still on an extension for WR Jameson Williams, as I'll make that a focal piece of the 3rd Mock offseason section here.

The other main moves we are making is doing a renegotiated deal with current LG Graham Glasgow who had a relatively mediocre season, and is currently at a spot where he would likely be cut if he is unwilling to take a paycut. Renegotiated deals are somewhat of a wildcard in terms of what they land on, but effectively I am going to move his cap hit down to $3.8 mil, which lowers his salary to the veteran minimum, but forwards his two roster bonuses for 2025 and 2026 into this season, and then includes the already prorated portions. This also voids the third year of his deal, meaning Glasgow effectively gets the remainder of his guaranteed money up front but now need to anything beyond this season. If he bounces back and wants to return in 2026, he'd now have the freedom himself to negotiate a new deal.

I am also keeping RG Kevin Zeitler around in this one, rather than having him retiring. Instead he opts to come back one more season and compete for a championship, signing a one-year extension at a similar rate. We are also keeping EDGE Za'Darius Smith around in this one, though I maintain he'll likely be cut, as his cap hit is probably about on the line, but more importantly to the discussion is that the Lions still financially owe him over $10 million in cold hard cash (cap hit vs. cash paid out works different so the trade doesn't actually affect that, just what the Lions are responsible for on their salary cap balance with league reporting), and thus it makes him an easier choice. However, I cut him last time, so this one we will keep him.
The restructures I am doing in this one is sort of an all-out approach, so anyone who can save the Lions at least $5 million or more is getting restructured. That includes:
  • DT D.J. Reader
  • WR Amon-Ra St. Brown
  • QB Jared Goff
  • OT Taylor Decker
I've explained this one previously, but the gist of the restructure is you really shouldn't do a restructure unless you know that the player in question is going to be around in 2026, which is definitively true for Goff and St. Brown, but the contract set ups for Reader and Decker make restructures actually plausible despite the doubt they're on their actual longevity on the Lions roster.

The two big changes from last time is aiming to keep Derrick Barnes and Levi Onwuzurike. I still don't think it's likely Barnes is back, unless the Lions potentially consider moving on from Anzalone, but there is enough space that they can reasonably find a way to integrate him into the lineup very regularly with Anzalone and Campbell, and then move forward with Campbell and Barnes as the starting linebackers in 2026. Onwuzurike is back as well, and given some injuries along the DL, it's helpful to have him there and ready to go at the start of the year.

Pos. Player Yrs. Value

ILB Derrick Barnes 3 yrs $18 million
DT Levi Onwuzurike 2 yrs $22 million
G Kevin Zeitler 1 yr $5.9 million
OT Dan Skipper 1 yr $1.2 million
ILB Ben Niemann 1 yr $1.2 million
RB Craig Reynolds 1 yr $3.2 million
G Kayode Awosika 1 yr $3.2 million
TE Shane Zylstra 1 yr $3.2 million
EDGE Al-Quadin Muhammad 1 yr $1.2 million

The other ones on here of note are using OverTheCap's projections for the restricted free agent tenders on RB Craig Reynolds, G Kayode Awosika, and TE Shane Zylstra. The RFA tender is simply a right of first refusal deal as none of those three were drafted out of college, and thus the Lions would only be agreeing to that deal and then needing to wait and see if anyone offers them more, and then match, much like they did with Brock Wright. I think Awosika is definitely worth the price of the tender, as he's been a serviceable reserve for Detroit the past few seasons and accumulated a couple of starts. Reynolds is not worth the $3.2 million as a third-option running back, but when factoring in that he's also third on the Lions roster in special teams usage, it then becomes a solid deal.
 
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Splashy Trade? Splashy Trade!

We are going to add a bigger-ish trade into this one, as we'll have the Lions leaning into a little more aggressive roster building as they seek to land their first Super Bowl in the coming season. Most would anticipate that is Browns EDGE rusher Myles Garrett, but no, instead we have Brad Holmes adding a former player he overlapped with in Los Angeles, as the Lions spring a trade for Rams

WR Cooper Kupp
, a 31-year old wide receiver who is still playing some very good football, even if he is starting to slow down.

NFL insider extraordinaire mentioned that the rough idea on valuation here would be something similar to the Bears acquisition of WR Keenan Allen last year, leaving us with this similarly projected trade.

Lions send: Third-round compensatory selection (projected 3.101)
Rams send: WR Cooper Kupp, sixth-round selection (6.204 via HOU)

The Bears landed Allen for an outright fourth-round pick last season, but that pick was 4.110, which means the Lions dealing their very late third-round pick and getting a late-round pick back is probably going to be a slightly more accurate valuation than sending their current fourth, which is projected at 4.133, via Philadelphia. So that's what we're going with.

The salary cap hit for Kupp varies based on when this trade actually happens, as the Rams would be on the hook for an additional $7.5 million in roster bonus to be paid out on March 5th, I believe.

If the trade happens before that, the team acquiring Kupp would be on the hook for that bonus, plus his $12.5 million in base salary, but if it occurs after that date, it would be just the base salary. I do not imagine the Rams will be able to facilitate a trade all that easily before that date unless they drastically lowered the asking price, as a $20 million cap hit for a 31-year old wide receiver moving out of his prime is a very tough ask for any sensible team to take on.

Thus, I will be using Kupp's base salary alone here and going with LAR eating that roster bonus to ensure they get top value for their former star wideout. Thus Detroit takes on $12.5 million this season, with a projected $19.5 million in cap duties next year, but that is a problem for next year when they could opt to cut or restructure Kupp and solve that problem later.

Some might be tempted to say the Lions don't need to "waste resources" on an offensive player, though I would still suggest that leaning into the idea of building upon existing strength is always still a good idea, and so yes, the Lions offense will still be quite good without Kupp, but adding him in is a near perfect compliment to Amon-Ra St. Brown, and likely helps Detroit continue to produce at an elite rate offensively. Which is short to say, still leaving Brad Holmes with something like $35 million cap space and a first- and second-round pick is still plenty to be able to bolster the defense, and thus the Lions should feel free to pursue a number of different strategies here.

Financial Health

With the extensions and moves above factored in, the Lions would be heading into this external free agency cycle now with $62 million in outright cap space. However, as I have mentioned previously, some of this would not be money the Lions intend to use this cycle, as rolling money forward into the next financial cycle is a very good strategy so long as the cap continues to rise. The quick logic on that one is that $5 million this year is more valuable than $5 million next, as $5 million this year is a higher percentage of the cap than it will be in 2026 when the cap increases. Thus, some of those restructures make sense in the context of pushing some dead cap into a lesser Given that Detroit is projected now to be almost -$50 million in the hole in 2026, the Lions would aim to probably preserve a pretty clean $25-30 million or so to rollover.

And for those concerned about that number, there is minimal need to fret. There's a lot of flexibility for the Lions to easily get back into the positives there, as the added Cooper Kupp contract is very cuttable, saving $19.85 million if he's not playing at a level that meets that price tag (very plausible). Levi Onwuzurike's deal is also in that same vein, able to cut and save $8 million if he's not playing up to the expectations of the deal he gets here.

Penei Sewell and Alim McNeill can be theoretically restructured in 2026 to save a combined $35+ million between the two of them. So doing a quick little adjustment right there of restructuring them, and cutting or renegotiating a deal with Cooper Kupp brings the Lions right back to zero. They still need to find some additional wiggle room, but many contenders recently have shown that once you're at that point, bolstering the roster with cheap, veteran ring chasers tends to allow them to continue loading the roster, especially while Brad Holmes is continuing to add talent via the Draft.

This is admittedly unfamiliar territory with the Lions, but with a strong core of Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Alim McNeill, Jared Goff, and Kerby Joseph all locked in, and again, drafted players like Jahmyr Gibbs, Jack Campbell and thirty other people you'll say "don't forget about him!", plus the picks Holmes is able to make. The Lions are in very good shape.
 
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NFL Draft

For the Lions first round selection, I have them swiping Shemar Stewart, whom I would peg pretty early as a really clean fit for the Lions, much in the same way I mentioned both Jared Verse and Terrion Arnold last year. Stewart has actually been on a bit of a stock rising trend lately, and at this point I am unsure he'd be available at 1.28, but stranger things have happened. Stewart is a long, powerful edge player, 6-6, 285 pounds and immensely athletic. Similar to Darius Robinson last year in terms of the body type, but Stewart is more explosive and a lot more upside in my opinion. His overall production has not been the best throughout his college career, but the Lions can work him into a rotation with Za'Darius Smith and others as he develops. Sky high upside, but not the highest floor.

And bolstering the DL with a second selection here, as the Detroit native Deone Walker lands with the Lions as a massive, athletic interior disruptor.

PickPos.PlayerSchool
Round 1, Pick #28EDGEShemar StewartTexas A&M
Round 2, Pick #60DTDeone WalkerKentucky
Round 3, Pick #101 (compensatory)CBNohl WilliamsCalifornia
Round 4, Pick #132GMiles FrazierLSU
Round 6, Pick #198WRPat BryantIllinois
Round 7, Pick #227SR.J. MickensClemson
Round 7, Pick #230RBMontrell Johnson Jr.Florida
Round 7, Pick #246DTEric GregoryArkansas

Head Coach: Dan Campbell, fifth season in Detroit (41-30 record, 2 NFC North titles)

Offensive Coordinator: John Morton, second season in Detroit, first in current role

PosStarterbackupdepth
QBJared GoffHendon HookerJake Fromm
RBJahmyr Gibbs & David MontgomeryCraig ReynoldsSione Vaki & Montrell Johnson Jr.
WRJameson WilliamsParris CampbellRonnie Bell
WRCooper KuppPat BryantAntoine Green
WRAmon-Ra St. BrownKalif RaymondTom Kennedy
TESam LaPortaBrock WrightShane Zylstra
LTTaylor DeckerDan SkipperGiovanni Manu
LGGraham GlasgowKayode AwosikaMiles Frazier
CFrank RagnowMichael NieseNetane Muti
RGKevin ZeitlerChristian MahoganyColby Sorsdal
RTPenei SewellDillon RadunzConnor Galvin

*- slight note, the OL is set to reflect a more likely top-53 man roster showing of a two-deep, but more likely you'd see Mahogany compete at LG with Glasgow.

Defensive Coordinator: Kelvin Sheppard, fourth season in Detroit, first in current role

PosStarterBackup
Depth​
EDGEAidan HutchinsonShemar StewartMitchell Agude
DTLevi Onwuzurike*Alim McNeill*Mekhi Wingo
DTD.J. ReaderDeone WalkerBrodric Martin
EDGEJoe Tryon-Shoyinaka OR Za'Darius SmithJoshua PaschalNate Lynn
ILBJack CampbellMalcolm RodriguezJalen Reeves-Maybin
ILBAlex AnzaloneDerrick BarnesAbraham Beauplan
CBMarlon HumphreyNohl WilliamsErick Hallett
CBTerrion ArnoldTre BrownStanley Th.-Oliver
SLOTAmik RobertsonEnnis Rakestraw
FSKerby JosephElijah MoldenR.J. Mickens
SSBrian BranchElijah CampbellLoren Strickland
*- I have Onwuzurike listed as the starter here to reflect the reality that Alim McNeill's 2025 recovery timetable is still somewhat unknown if he'll be ready to go right at the start of the year. Thus, Onwuzurike would see more snaps early as the 3T next to Reader, and McNeill takes the spot back once healthy. No need to panic/worry/fuss this year.

 
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