2025 Miami Dolphins - Draft 2025 (3 Viewers)

[TripleThreat]

Glad I can add some value @Ministry of Pain

CK and Simon did articles in the Sun Sentinel called Draft Winds years and years ago… last reference I found was from 2011.  The 3 of them do a nice job and have long time sources in and out of the org. 
 

TBH I joined their discord because I wanted to see do film work and while they haven’t done as much as I’d hoped they’ve dropped some serious nuggets and I’m happy to support them. 

 

[Gatorman]

Miami Brings in Foster and Ingram for a visit.  Not sure if they are going to sign anyone else before the draft but I think either (or both) would help the defense.  Wonder if they have some linebackers they like in the draft and are kicking the tires in case they miss on them with their "abundance" of picks....

 

[TripleThreat]

https://twitter.com/ckparrot/status/1514655508195590153?s=21&t=Caq6-6vJHz3f07wpDvvcQQ

Someone made a cut of all Tua’s deep throws… CK observes how inept and uncreative this offense was last year.  

 

[TripleThreat]

CK: 

1/2 Watching this, forget tired debates over Tua, WTF is up with this pass offense? Every deeper throw is almost exclusively Gesicki on the over, Hollins on vertical, Parker on back shoulder, or some misdirection play hoping the D falls asleep on a bit player.

2/2 If you exclusively watched this vid you'd say, "Miami has a guy they didn't use much named Jaylen Waddle, he looks pretty explosive and like he has some potential. I'd watch out for him in the future."

Mack Hollins was Miami's lone vertical guy and he moonlights as a pseudo-TE.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Draft next week...

102/124-It's possible some of these names will be off the board but a LB I like and might be at the end of the 3rd is LB-Darrian Beavers from Cincinnati, 6-3 235-240 lb versatile LB that can do a lot of things including stopping the run, blitzing the QB and can drop back in coverage to boot. The theme so far has been speed but also on Defense is having players that can do multiple things and will put pressure on players like Van Ginkel in a contract year. 

Another guy I like for the Edge/Front 7 is Josh Paschal from Kentucky. We could always use another pass rusher and he would give us some potential long term flexibility when we have to part ways with players we love to extend Tua to $45M+ per season...oh it's coming. 

-I wanted to throw out some RBs I like but I see others like Pierre Strong from SDSU and Ty Chandler from North Carolina, fast burners long after Breece Hall comes off the board and these guys are sitting around in the 6th, 7th Round and potentially UDFA, i look for Miami to come out of the Draft with at least 1-2 new RBs that will all get a lot of hype in summer camps. Trademark of the SF Offense is the next guy up at RB until one of them sticks. And Gaskin won't make the final roster come September.  

 

[SoBeDad]

Draft next week...

102/124-It's possible some of these names will be off the board but a LB I like and might be at the end of the 3rd is LB-Darrian Beavers from Cincinnati, 6-3 235-240 lb versatile LB that can do a lot of things including stopping the run, blitzing the QB and can drop back in coverage to boot. The theme so far has been speed but also on Defense is having players that can do multiple things and will put pressure on players like Van Ginkel in a contract year. 

Another guy I like for the Edge/Front 7 is Josh Paschal from Kentucky. We could always use another pass rusher and he would give us some potential long term flexibility when we have to part ways with players we love to extend Tua to $45M+ per season...oh it's coming. 

-I wanted to throw out some RBs I like but I see others like Pierre Strong from SDSU and Ty Chandler from North Carolina, fast burners long after Breece Hall comes off the board and these guys are sitting around in the 6th, 7th Round and potentially UDFA, i look for Miami to come out of the Draft with at least 1-2 new RBs that will all get a lot of hype in summer camps. Trademark of the SF Offense is the next guy up at RB until one of them sticks. And Gaskin won't make the final roster come September.  

Another LB to consider is Troy Anderson from Montana State, projected late 3rd or 4th. He played RB, QB, and safety initially, but switched to LB, so he's still learning the position. He would be good on special teams and potentially short yardage RB to boot. He could work on technique in 2022. Can we use Zach Thomas to do a pre-draft evaluation on these guys?

>>As noted, Andersen has been a pre-draft darling for his testing numbers. His 4.42-second 40-yard dash time, 1.51-second 10-yard split and 128-inch broad jump at the combine ranked in the 98th, 97th and 94th percentiles for linebackers, respectively, earning him physical comparisons to the likes of Clay Matthews and Kenneth Murray.<<

There's no guarantee that Tua will be extended in 2022, IMO. He needs to do better under pressure, and hit the big throws to Waddle, Hill, Wilson, and Gesicki a few times per game.

 

[Gatorman]

Another LB to consider is Troy Anderson from Montana State, projected late 3rd or 4th. He played RB, QB, and safety initially, but switched to LB, so he's still learning the position. He would be good on special teams and potentially short yardage RB to boot. He could work on technique in 2022. Can we use Zach Thomas to do a pre-draft evaluation on these guys?

>>As noted, Andersen has been a pre-draft darling for his testing numbers. His 4.42-second 40-yard dash time, 1.51-second 10-yard split and 128-inch broad jump at the combine ranked in the 98th, 97th and 94th percentiles for linebackers, respectively, earning him physical comparisons to the likes of Clay Matthews and Kenneth Murray.<<

There's no guarantee that Tua will be extended in 2022, IMO. He needs to do better under pressure, and hit the big throws to Waddle, Hill, Wilson, and Gesicki a few times per game.

I expect Miami to be big players in the UDFA market and lets give Grier some credit here, he has found some gems after the draft.  I am not at all in tune to what the draft will or will not be seeing as we don't have much capital.  If Miami gets one or more starters or even a situational player I'll be thrilled (the good news is the 3 main needs: IOL, LB, and Edge seem to be deep this year).

As for Tua:  I think this all boils down to a few things: 1) Tom Brady. 2) How much noise we make this season and is Tua the guy making the noise, and 3) Tom Brady. If TB14 (lets face it, 12 and 13 are taken already) wants to play here Ross is going to make that happen. Anything short of the AFCC game and I think it happens (If it is going to happen)

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Another LB to consider is Troy Anderson from Montana State, projected late 3rd or 4th. He played RB, QB, and safety initially, but switched to LB, so he's still learning the position. He would be good on special teams and potentially short yardage RB to boot. He could work on technique in 2022. Can we use Zach Thomas to do a pre-draft evaluation on these guys?

>>As noted, Andersen has been a pre-draft darling for his testing numbers. His 4.42-second 40-yard dash time, 1.51-second 10-yard split and 128-inch broad jump at the combine ranked in the 98th, 97th and 94th percentiles for linebackers, respectively, earning him physical comparisons to the likes of Clay Matthews and Kenneth Murray.<<

There's no guarantee that Tua will be extended in 2022, IMO. He needs to do better under pressure, and hit the big throws to Waddle, Hill, Wilson, and Gesicki a few times per game.

I expect Miami to be big players in the UDFA market and lets give Grier some credit here, he has found some gems after the draft.  I am not at all in tune to what the draft will or will not be seeing as we don't have much capital.  If Miami gets one or more starters or even a situational player I'll be thrilled (the good news is the 3 main needs: IOL, LB, and Edge seem to be deep this year).

As for Tua:  I think this all boils down to a few things: 1) Tom Brady. 2) How much noise we make this season and is Tua the guy making the noise, and 3) Tom Brady. If TB14 (lets face it, 12 and 13 are taken already) wants to play here Ross is going to make that happen. Anything short of the AFCC game and I think it happens (If it is going to happen)

SBD 1st: The Montana State kid, I prefer the guy I mentioned but anyone of the many LBs that are around in the Late 3rd-Mid 4th, I trust the FO/Coaches at this point based on the players they have brought in and burned some Draft Capital on from 2022, a good use of those Draft picks if you don't mind me saying based on the drop off at many positions this year. 

-I was hot for some RBs and I'll broaden it out to skill position players, a WR in the 3rd-4th round that slips will not surprise me, you're paying the slot or WR3 spot $7M per year, would love to see Miami find a couple gems at RB and WR in '22 and '23.

Gator 2nd and it ties into SBD: I agree on UFDA, they might be able to get a Pierre Strong or Ty Chandler as UDFA and there are lots of other names but as I have repeatedly posted, I expect Miami to come out of here with at least a couple new names in the skill position department. 

There's a WR on the roster currently you all like to bring up constantly and it drives me nuts but wait until you start drooling over guys that Coach m&M brings in here either on Day 2-3 of the Draft or an UDFA that will tear up camp. 

-And finally I want to be clear about this, i will not post any more negative Tua comments or projections of what I think i know based on the first 24 months, he hasn't ha this type of focus yet on the team and I think this is the year he will prove a lot of people wrong, if that doesn't occur then he will be pushed out of the starting spot thru the Draft next year...perhaps. I can't waste a lot of brain cells on what if...WE KNOW he must produce and I have been a major critic of Tua and anyone that would throw him a life preserver I might add. 

So if it's OK with both of you, I'm going to take a pass on the Tua bashing, doesn't mean i wear his jersey because I won't BUT I have a funny feeling he will be just fine this year and will still be criticized a lot even with better numbers and WINS I might add, still won't be enough for a lot of folks, I might be one of them. 

Good posts, both of you.  

Edit to Add: Don't overlook Miami using 1 if not both of their 7th Round picks on at least 1 RB and perhaps another skill guy they don't want to have to compete for in UDFA. That's why i like the 7th Rd for a RB prospect and have moved off a 3rd-4th selection where they can use both to re-enforce their F7. 

 

[Gatorman]

-And finally I want to be clear about this, i will not post any more negative Tua comments or projections of what I think i know based on the first 24 months, he hasn't ha this type of focus yet on the team and I think this is the year he will prove a lot of people wrong, if that doesn't occur then he will be pushed out of the starting spot thru the Draft next year...perhaps. I can't waste a lot of brain cells on what if...WE KNOW he must produce and I have been a major critic of Tua and anyone that would throw him a life preserver I might add. 

So if it's OK with both of you, I'm going to take a pass on the Tua bashing, doesn't mean i wear his jersey because I won't BUT I have a funny feeling he will be just fine this year and will still be criticized a lot even with better numbers and WINS I might add, still won't be enough for a lot of folks, I might be one of them. 

Good posts, both of you.  

Good on you.  I agree.  I think Tua's outcome this year really hinges on things he can control and one thing he cannot (TOM BRADY).  Looking forward to what this season will bring.

 

[TripleThreat]

projections of what I think i know based on the first 24 months, he hasn't ha this type of focus yet on the team a

I think we all can agree on this.  MMcD had a specific game plan how he wanted to use Tua, using clips of his former stops and Tua doing those things. 

I certainly hope he answers some questions this year and think he will.   National media narratives be d@mn3d

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Quick scenarios that are all possible...

-Grier and the Phins see someone they covet or would love to have on the team and a Blue Chip starts sliding into the back of the 1st/early 2nd, I can see Grier, Ross and the Coaches as well pulling the trigger and moving back into the earlier sections of the Draft that nobody figures them to play a role...that said I think they also figured it was better to get a Tyreek Hill vs the ho hum prospects at some of the skill positions. 

-They could trade both the 102 and 125 for future picks in 2023. Would Grier take a '23 2nd rd selection for the 102/Late 3rd this year? How about a 3rd next year for the 125? I'm just saying I don't put the Phins past trading them away for more ammo next season. How many open roster spots are there right now? Honestly, ask yourself what good it would do to bring in 10-12 hot young rookies? Where would they put them all?

102-LB-Beavers from Cinci is still on my list, some of you have mentioned others at that position, I'm open to whoever they feel will help with the run defense. 

125-Edge-Paschal from Kentucky and again there's others but I see no reason to not take anther pass rusher, preferably both picks will add some help to the pass rush and keep guys fresh. 

Another position I am open to would be IOL, feels like they have spent enough on Tackle, they need one more guy inside at Center or Guard to push guys up or off this team. Great year for help in the trenches. Defensive Tackle?

224/247 or the 7th round picks I would like to see them secure a RB they don't have to try and battle to get thru UDFA, if there's a shoe in there, just take him. I have posted and continue to feel that the 2022 Rushing leader might not be on the team at the moment even though that sounds a little weird to some folks. 

Tomorrow night figures to be rather boring for most Miami Dolphins fans, possible that the end of Day 2 will bring a prospect we can discuss. Something of value is likely to be there 102 and 125, eager to see what direction they go towards. 

 

[Gatorman]

Quick scenarios that are all possible...

-Grier and the Phins see someone they covet or would love to have on the team and a Blue Chip starts sliding into the back of the 1st/early 2nd, I can see Grier, Ross and the Coaches as well pulling the trigger and moving back into the earlier sections of the Draft that nobody figures them to play a role...that said I think they also figured it was better to get a Tyreek Hill vs the ho hum prospects at some of the skill positions. 

-They could trade both the 102 and 125 for future picks in 2023. Would Grier take a '23 2nd rd selection for the 102/Late 3rd this year? How about a 3rd next year for the 125? I'm just saying I don't put the Phins past trading them away for more ammo next season. How many open roster spots are there right now? Honestly, ask yourself what good it would do to bring in 10-12 hot young rookies? Where would they put them all?

102-LB-Beavers from Cinci is still on my list, some of you have mentioned others at that position, I'm open to whoever they feel will help with the run defense. 

125-Edge-Paschal from Kentucky and again there's others but I see no reason to not take anther pass rusher, preferably both picks will add some help to the pass rush and keep guys fresh. 

Another position I am open to would be IOL, feels like they have spent enough on Tackle, they need one more guy inside at Center or Guard to push guys up or off this team. Great year for help in the trenches. Defensive Tackle?

224/247 or the 7th round picks I would like to see them secure a RB they don't have to try and battle to get thru UDFA, if there's a shoe in there, just take him. I have posted and continue to feel that the 2022 Rushing leader might not be on the team at the moment even though that sounds a little weird to some folks. 

Tomorrow night figures to be rather boring for most Miami Dolphins fans, possible that the end of Day 2 will bring a prospect we can discuss. Something of value is likely to be there 102 and 125, eager to see what direction they go towards. 

What a difference a year makes...

 

[Ministry of Pain]

@SoBeDadasked a good question last night, 

-Who would we have taken at the 1.29?

Karlaftis and Dean would be at the top of my list, both strong assets in the Front 7. Do I like them better than what we did getting Tyreek Hill? Of course not, Hill clearly pushes Miami up a stratosphere in 2022. No rookie is going to come close to that for the Phins this year. 

 

[Gatorman]

@SoBeDadasked a good question last night, 

-Who would we have taken at the 1.29?

Karlaftis and Dean would be at the top of my list, both strong assets in the Front 7. Do I like them better than what we did getting Tyreek Hill? Of course not, Hill clearly pushes Miami up a stratosphere in 2022. No rookie is going to come close to that for the Phins this year. 

Not sure what is more satisfying. Hill for that pick or the pats taking a lineman w a late second round grade in the first. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Rd 3 #102-LB Channing Tindall 

-I had a list of names at ILB, you all had some names and most of them were off the board by the time the Phins picked but Channing will be just fine, I was under the impression he would be off the board. So many Georgia players selected in this Draft, entire DL plus Dean, Walker and we get Tindall. Georgia is one of those elite programs where it's hard to even get playing time there are so many top Dawgs. 

Runs a 4.47, was a 4-star recruit and was National Defensive Player of the Year before entering Georgia, took him 3 years to crack the starting the line up and truly was not a starter but on a National Championship Team he was 3rd with 67 tackles, 5.5 Sacks with a stud DL in front of him that made life easier. He will eventually slide into the LB rotation and certainly will help on Special Teams right away. 

Larry Csonka stepped on stage to make the selection and that was pretty cool. This is the 50 year celebration of the perfect season and he made a point to highlight that. 

PFF had him as their #115 overall, I'm optimistic the coaching staff was delighted to get him and add him into the F7. 

Welcome to Miami!

 

[Gatorman]

Rd 3 #102-LB Channing Tindall 

-I had a list of names at ILB, you all had some names and most of them were off the board by the time the Phins picked but Channing will be just fine, I was under the impression he would be off the board. So many Georgia players selected in this Draft, entire DL plus Dean, Walker and we get Tindall. Georgia is one of those elite programs where it's hard to even get playing time there are so many top Dawgs. 

Runs a 4.47, was a 4-star recruit and was National Defensive Player of the Year before entering Georgia, took him 3 years to crack the starting the line up and truly was not a starter but on a National Championship Team he was 3rd with 67 tackles, 5.5 Sacks with a stud DL in front of him that made life easier. He will eventually slide into the LB rotation and certainly will help on Special Teams right away. 

Larry Csonka stepped on stage to make the selection and that was pretty cool. This is the 50 year celebration of the perfect season and he made a point to highlight that. 

PFF had him as their #115 overall, I'm optimistic the coaching staff was delighted to get him and add him into the F7. 

Welcome to Miami!

Book is he is raw but fast. Suited initially for the the “spy” role (hello josh Allen).  Solid pick as most people had him gone by our pick. 

 

[=Smackdown=]

Book is he is raw but fast. Suited initially for the the “spy” role (hello josh Allen).  Solid pick as most people had him gone by our pick. 

Agreed. Meet your new Mike.

Guessing they go C, RT or RB with pick 125.

 

[Gatorman]

A wr that also ran the ball in college. Interesting 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Book is he is raw but fast. Suited initially for the the “spy” role (hello josh Allen).  Solid pick as most people had him gone by our pick. 

-The new regime is key on 40 time speed. Enter Tindall and I'm not sur it's common all LBs run a 4.4 these days, 4.47 if you want to get technical but either way he's fast and I saw the post where Josh Allen came up, excellent observation and again we can argue all day about all the horrible things that have happened up to this point but you have to be honest that things seem to be coming together quickly this off season, can't remember this kind of anticipation in some time. 

Agreed. Meet your new Mike.

Guessing they go C, RT or RB with pick 125.

I like the WR they selected but we certainly have enough there already. I can see Cedric Wilson being a possible 1 and done, not sure what the guaranteed dollars were but he's going to be fighting for targets this year.  

A wr that also ran the ball in college. Interesting 

I'm going to list some of his quick stats in the next post, have no problem with them taking a WR even though we appear stacked there at the moment, never hurts to bring along another and develop more weapons. This team has been boring ad nauseam for decades, happy they seem to be looking like a throw throw throw offense. Gonna be hilarious when the OL comes together and they can hand it off 30x a game with no hesitation and then Tua on play action has actual time to drop back and toss one down to Hill ripping the cover off the top of defenses, something we haven't seen in a very long time.  

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Rd 4 #125-WR Erik Ezukanma

Consistent is the first thing I see with 3 consecutive years at Texas Tech 

42/664/4

46/748/6

48/705/4...also of worthy note his Senior year he carried it 10/138/2TDs, not sure if these were end arounds or direct hand offs but the other thing you want to key in on is this guy's size. 6-3/220 and he didn't have a great QB throwing him the ball. 

Take a look at some of his highlights, guy looks yoked as well. I like the energy he appears to bring to the offense, have a funny feeling he might help in a variety of ways. I like this pick plenty since there weren't a lot of good choices at WR when they pick again in the 7th Rd, good find. 

Ran a 4.53 on his Pro Day, not lightning fast but we already have that. Makes an excellent Red Zone target because of his size. 

 

[SoBeDad]

Rd 4 #125-WR Erik Ezukanma

Consistent is the first thing I see with 3 consecutive years at Texas Tech 

42/664/4

46/748/6

48/705/4...also of worthy note his Senior year he carried it 10/138/2TDs, not sure if these were end arounds or direct hand offs but the other thing you want to key in on is this guy's size. 6-3/220 and he didn't have a great QB throwing him the ball. 

Take a look at some of his highlights, guy looks yoked as well. I like the energy he appears to bring to the offense, have a funny feeling he might help in a variety of ways. I like this pick plenty since there weren't a lot of good choices at WR when they pick again in the 7th Rd, good find. 

Ran a 4.53 on his Pro Day, not lightning fast but we already have that. Makes an excellent Red Zone target because of his size. 

I'll give them a pass on Ezukanma for now, given that Wes Welker must've given them his approval, since both are Red Raiders. His stats aren't overwhelming but his size and toughness show up on tape on catches over the middle and contested catches. I thought they'd go with another position like OL, CB, or RB. Note who went in the picks before Ezukanma: Spiller and Zamir White.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Rd 7 #224-OLB/Edge Cameron Goode 

From the internet...

Goode has been the Bears’ best player for the last two years hands down. At the end of his sixth year with Cal football, Goode was named to the All-Pac-12 second team and received invitations to multiple senior draft events. It’s easy to see why. The 6’4” outside linebacker has led the Bears in sacks for the past three years while accumulating 123 tackles and 19.5 sacks in that time frame. Goode’s ability to drop back in coverage should also earn him attention from NFL scouts — he finished second among outside linebackers in passes defended in 2021 and has recorded two pick sixes during his collegiate career. Concerns have been raised about Goode’s injury history, but after consistent health and quality performances over the last three years, those points seem moot. Goode will, at the very least, sign with an NFL team as an undrafted free agent. The Bears’ standout defender has had several workouts with NFL teams, however, and it would not be a surprise to see Goode drafted on day three of the NFL Draft.

Runs a 4.58

 

[SoBeDad]

Rd 7 #224-OLB/Edge Cameron Goode 

From the internet...

Goode has been the Bears’ best player for the last two years hands down. At the end of his sixth year with Cal football, Goode was named to the All-Pac-12 second team and received invitations to multiple senior draft events. It’s easy to see why. The 6’4” outside linebacker has led the Bears in sacks for the past three years while accumulating 123 tackles and 19.5 sacks in that time frame. Goode’s ability to drop back in coverage should also earn him attention from NFL scouts — he finished second among outside linebackers in passes defended in 2021 and has recorded two pick sixes during his collegiate career. Concerns have been raised about Goode’s injury history, but after consistent health and quality performances over the last three years, those points seem moot. Goode will, at the very least, sign with an NFL team as an undrafted free agent. The Bears’ standout defender has had several workouts with NFL teams, however, and it would not be a surprise to see Goode drafted on day three of the NFL Draft.

Runs a 4.58

He was one of the 30 players brought in for interviews. Barry Jackson wrote about him a few weeks ago. Production  on the field and nice measurables is a good combo. Sometimes, Miami just drafts on potential, Noah Igbinoghene and Austin Jackson come to mind.

>>Per the Pac-12 media website, at Cal’s Pro Day, he had a 39-inch vertical jump, which would have been seventh best among linebackers at the Combine. He later added a 4.58 40-yard dash (would have been 12th at Combine), 6.91 in the three-cone drill (tied for first), and 4.29 20-yard shuttle (fourth).<<

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article260273520.html

 

[Desert_Power]

Rd 3 #102-LB Channing Tindall 

-I had a list of names at ILB, you all had some names and most of them were off the board by the time the Phins picked but Channing will be just fine, I was under the impression he would be off the board. So many Georgia players selected in this Draft, entire DL plus Dean, Walker and we get Tindall. Georgia is one of those elite programs where it's hard to even get playing time there are so many top Dawgs. 

Runs a 4.47, was a 4-star recruit and was National Defensive Player of the Year before entering Georgia, took him 3 years to crack the starting the line up and truly was not a starter but on a National Championship Team he was 3rd with 67 tackles, 5.5 Sacks with a stud DL in front of him that made life easier. He will eventually slide into the LB rotation and certainly will help on Special Teams right away. 

Larry Csonka stepped on stage to make the selection and that was pretty cool. This is the 50 year celebration of the perfect season and he made a point to highlight that. 

PFF had him as their #115 overall, I'm optimistic the coaching staff was delighted to get him and add him into the F7. 

Welcome to Miami!

I like this pick a lot. That is a lot of speed to run side to side.

 

[SoBeDad]

Tua's arm looks stronger from 2021 to 2022. Let's see what happens in real games. Most of the media is not a believer in Tua, including their former ex-personnel guru,  Mike Tannenbaum, who was sub .500 during his Miami Tenure.

https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/1520518074536968193?s=20&t=9-sM5gFV1JYKwa4b3GKQTg

 

[SoBeDad]

Miami adding 2 UDFA oline:

>>7:10 pm: The Dolphins are adding multiple offensive linemen, including Minnesota’s Blaise Andries and Arizona State’s Kellen Diesch. Diesch was the highest-rated tackle in the Pac-12 last season, per PFF. The year before, he was the 18th-highest-graded tackle in among Power Five schools according to PFF and second in the Pac-12.

Diesch is a two-year starter with 16 career starts at left tackle for Arizona State, which operated a pro-style, run-heavy offensive scheme. He previously played at Texas A&M. Andries played every position at center. He had five starts at left tackle, 11 at left guard, 21 at right guard and nine at right tackle.

Miami has been pursuing multiple centers, including SMU’s Hayden Howerton.<<

That would be the #1 OT and #6 OG available per ESPN.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article260250505.html

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Rd 7 #247 QB-Skylar Thompson



Very accurate passer close to 70% in just 9 starts last season, 12 TD vs 4 Int and like 4 rush TDs, he'll have fun in camp over the summer. Did we really need to draft a QB? Tua-Teddy, not much room for a 3rd on this roster, maybe practice squad. 

 

[SoBeDad]

Rd 7 #247 QB-Skylar Thompson



Very accurate passer close to 70% in just 9 starts last season, 12 TD vs 4 Int and like 4 rush TDs, he'll have fun in camp over the summer. Did we really need to draft a QB? Tua-Teddy, not much room for a 3rd on this roster, maybe practice squad. 

Exactly. A practice squad arm. We already have 2 of the better oline UDFAs, see above.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Miami adding 2 UDFA oline:

>>7:10 pm: The Dolphins are adding multiple offensive linemen, including Minnesota’s Blaise Andries and Arizona State’s Kellen Diesch. Diesch was the highest-rated tackle in the Pac-12 last season, per PFF. The year before, he was the 18th-highest-graded tackle in among Power Five schools according to PFF and second in the Pac-12.

Diesch is a two-year starter with 16 career starts at left tackle for Arizona State, which operated a pro-style, run-heavy offensive scheme. He previously played at Texas A&M. Andries played every position at center. He had five starts at left tackle, 11 at left guard, 21 at right guard and nine at right tackle.

Miami has been pursuing multiple centers, including SMU’s Hayden Howerton.<<

That would be the #1 OT and #6 OG available per ESPN.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article260250505.html

Diesch-#77 Overall on PFF Top 300 Board, that's like Mid 3rd rd grade, to get him here for nothing is fantastic. More competition the better, this guy was predicted to be drafted. 

 

[Desert_Power]

Rd 7 #247 QB-Skylar Thompson



Very accurate passer close to 70% in just 9 starts last season, 12 TD vs 4 Int and like 4 rush TDs, he'll have fun in camp over the summer. Did we really need to draft a QB? Tua-Teddy, not much room for a 3rd on this roster, maybe practice squad. 

Always a fan on taking a shot on mid-late round QBs. It's such an expensive position and great ones can come from anywhere. Doesn't hurt that he is a Waldman favorite.

 

[SoBeDad]

Diesch-#77 Overall on PFF Top 300 Board, that's like Mid 3rd rd grade, to get him here for nothing is fantastic. More competition the better, this guy was predicted to be drafted. 

Plus, Armstead has a big injury history. 

 

[Gatorman]

Always a fan on taking a shot on mid-late round QBs. It's such an expensive position and great ones can come from anywhere. Doesn't hurt that he is a Waldman favorite.

Exactly. Waldman loves him and let’s face it we need a third guy and one with athleticism doesn’t hurt. Lots of guys still out there in the udfa market and Miami (for their lack of draft capital) got guys for their front 7, a big wr, and a qb project. If one of them pans out it s a win. 

 

[Desert_Power]

Zaquandre White is a great pickup. Not just because I'm a Gamecock grad, but because he is a great fit for the type of running offense that McDaniels will likely implement from the Shanny tree.

 

[SoBeDad]

>>Grier said they were targeting a running back and “Mike fell out of his chair when he got picked by somebody.”<<

Yep, we got scooped a 3rd year in a row for a valued RB. This year is was either Zamir White by LV or Isaiah Spiller by the LAC,  2 and 3 picks before our selection at 4.20. It's RBBC in Miami with Mostert, Edmonds, Zaquandre White, and maybe Gaskin.

BTW, LV traded up to get Zamir.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article260939417.html

 

[Gatorman]

So after the draft they sign a bunch of guys and still have 20 million in cap space going onto the season.  

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's time to go get C-J.C, Tretter and bring him here. 

Arm-Collins-JC-Eich-Hunt and yes that relegates Austin Jackson to a reserve spot on the OL. Kellen Diesch will challenge for a starting spot on this OL eventually, he should have been drafted in like the 3rd or 4th round, steal getting him for free and they know it. They did give him $125k to get him here but I thought they did similar with Jones last year.  

A few notes...

Greg Little is on the roster and carries a $1.5M salary or potential savings. This guy was drafted by Carolina in the early 2nd Rd, like #39 overall perhaps and we got him for like a 7th Rd last year and was on IR where he ends up every year. Not sure what the plans are there but I assume he's going to be very expendable. 

Austin Jackson will cost $3.7M this year and $4.3M next year as basically a reserve until Miami passes on picking up his 5th year option and blown 1st round pick. I'm ready to call it a blown pick at this point unless he can do something miraculous this year. 

Eich and Hunt expect to start, I assume Eich will either play RT or RG, some think Hunt might switch from RG to RT, we'll see how that shakes out. 

Solomon Kindley has no future on this team now. He can be a reserve but he isn't built for the new scheme. Robert Jones is cheap the next 2 years for Miami, was an UDFA but we also gave him a little bonus to come here over other potential suitors. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

More news from the trenches/OL. 

-Connor Williams has emerged as a potential Center. He has taken snaps there the last 2 off seasons in Dallas and was perhaps their back up Center had they needed him there. It doesn't mean he will definitely start but I want to caution making assumptions in May. 

-Armstead and Hunt are likely locked into their jobs at LT and RG although Hunt could play RT and might eventually want to switch to tackle just because of the potential $$$ playing Tackle over Guard. 

-Team seems to think Austin Jackson will start somewhere, maybe RT this year, would be his 3rd different position in less than 3 years on this team. I thought AJ was blocking fine in the running game at Guard during stretches last year but I maintain we had almost nothing at RB. 

-Dieter is thought of as the likely starter but it appears he will be pressed and if he can't handle the spot they will find someone. Tretter was 6th overall out of 39 rated Centers last year and he's walking the streets if they want to bring him in, they have $20M in reserves right now. They have the luxury to work a trade as well if they want to go that route. They have a lot of options. 

What I like is they have a lot of young bodies and talent on the OL. Jackson, Hunt and Kindley were all drafted 2 seasons ago, Eich was a 2nd last year and Robert Jones started at RT in Week 17 last year so he easily could compete for a spot as well. The coaching staff seems committed to making some of these picks gel and perform in the new offense and system. Many of them are getting a 2nd chance to prove themselves in a blocking scheme that may be better suited for some of them.

I like what I am hearing as we get past the Draft and the overall plan. On the surface, I doubt this is a bottom feeder OL this season, at least middle of the pack if not higher IMHO. And wait until the new coaches have a chance to reshape them thru the summer and thru training camp, this unit is going to look much different.

Herald ran a fairly in depth article on much of this. 

 

[TripleThreat]

>>Grier said they were targeting a running back and “Mike fell out of his chair when he got picked by somebody.”<<

Yep, we got scooped a 3rd year in a row for a valued RB. This year is was either Zamir White by LV or Isaiah Spiller by the LAC,  2 and 3 picks before our selection at 4.20. It's RBBC in Miami with Mostert, Edmonds, Zaquandre White, and maybe Gaskin.

BTW, LV traded up to get Zamir.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article260939417.html

it was Rachaad White that got sniped.  

 

[SoBeDad]

it was Rachaad White that got sniped.  

Would Miami have taken Rachaad White over Channing Tindall in the 3rd round, which was a big position of need? TBH, aside from very good pass receiving skills, I wasn't that impressed with Rachaad's highlights. UDFA Zaquandre White looked more explosive on highlights, although there must be a reason he was 2nd string. He's also a good receiver.

 

[SoBeDad]

Is Miami using PFF ratings this year, or did the lack of draft picks make them an attractive place for UDFAs. They signed 3 of the top 13 on PFFs board of UDFAs.

2. Kellen Diesch was one of the highest-graded Power Five tackles in the country this past season and didn't lose much in pass protection, as he allowed multiple pressures only once in 2021 and gave up all of seven in total.

8. Zaquandre White is a project in every way you can think of as a running back. He's also capable of things physically no one else in the class is.

13. Verone McKinley. Teams will have to accept some lows to get the highs that McKinley can provide in coverage.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

>>Grier said they were targeting a running back and “Mike fell out of his chair when he got picked by somebody.”<<

Yep, we got scooped a 3rd year in a row for a valued RB. This year is was either Zamir White by LV or Isaiah Spiller by the LAC,  2 and 3 picks before our selection at 4.20. It's RBBC in Miami with Mostert, Edmonds, Zaquandre White, and maybe Gaskin.

BTW, LV traded up to get Zamir.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article260939417.html

-I tried to ignore this post or this "News" because it starts to show the "cheesy" side of Coach M&M who i give credit for reaching out and being everyone's friend initially but at some point he's going to have to kick ### and...is he going to fall out of his headset on the sidelines when something happens during the game? Are we always going to be victims to luck and chance? I want a hard nose well thought out plan, not hoping and praying the guy I want falls to me. 

I still am a fan of what they did overall but this snippet of info that was pretty much everywhere in draft related stories to the Phins, not a fan of hearing these remarks. Great, how many times are we going to get caught with our pants down because young and inexperienced Head Coach didn't have a Plan B...maybe Tindall was it, maybe he was the guy the entire time?

-Big mark against the new coach when I hear these things but I didn't want to point it out immediately since it always sounds like MoP is complaining and throwing rotten tomatoes at the front office and coaching staff. Thankfully I'm not the one who pointed this out 1st but I gotta tell you it sounded horrible when I heard it. 

Geniuses don't fall out of their chair getting clipped of their top prospects in the Draft. It shouldn't have been a big surprise.  

it was Rachaad White that got sniped.  

-My other team drafted him so I'm not that sad about it plus I like what Miami has with ZW as an UDFA at RB, should be part of the mix over the summer and I expect him to rise up the depth charts and pass Myles Gaskin although i hear the knock on ZW is that he isn't an accomplished pass catcher but we will see if that's true or not. 

Would Miami have taken Rachaad White over Channing Tindall in the 3rd round, which was a big position of need? TBH, aside from very good pass receiving skills, I wasn't that impressed with Rachaad's highlights. UDFA Zaquandre White looked more explosive on highlights, although there must be a reason he was 2nd string. He's also a good receiver.

-Miami needed Channing Tindall and I think he will help give the LB and the F7 run defense an attitude. Should have been drafted in the 2nd rd, happy to get him at the end of the 3rd. 

Factor in that Miami got Diesch and another guy at OG to compete with Robert Jones and reserves behind their front line starters, this OL is going to be so much better and take pressure off the Defense returning all 11 starters. 

What part of the equation have I overlooked? QB you ask? We'll get there, I'm not ready to say one way or the other, want to hear what happens in camp with the new and improved Tua and the offense, Miami might not have as many problems as some would think. 

I'm still hollering 11-6 right now. Probably high on teal n orange but I know what I see and I'm liking what i see so far. Just being honest. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

2. Kellen Diesch was one of the highest-graded Power Five tackles in the country this past season and didn't lose much in pass protection, as he allowed multiple pressures only once in 2021 and gave up all of seven in total.

8. Zaquandre White is a project in every way you can think of as a running back. He's also capable of things physically no one else in the class is.

13. Verone McKinley. Teams will have to accept some lows to get the highs that McKinley can provide in coverage.

All 3 of them stand a good chance at making the final cuts. Diesch is a no brainer but McKinley can help save $5M on Eric Rowe if they decide to part ways with him and that would make Tretter a much easier signing IMHO. 

ZW will make the team as well IMHO, at least the practice squad and if he pushes Gaskin out of here, another $2.5M Miami would save. Subtract Rowe and Gaskin and add Tretter, I would say we get much better and we can still hunt other Safeties out there on other teams. 

 

[SoBeDad]

Tua can be as good as Garropolo IMO. Both are good until the pocket breaks down. Have MM & Grier done enough to bring the Shanahan formula to Miami? 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Tua can be as good as Garropolo IMO. Both are good until the pocket breaks down. Have MM & Grier done enough to bring the Shanahan formula to Miami? 

The Zone blocking scheme they are installing on the OL is going to maximize the athletic skill that many of them have. Part of the problem is they were being pushed to be a smashmouth OL that attacked in the A-gaps and this will allow for them to get outside like Hunt and put a hurting on a woefully undersized LB and pop one of these RBs for 15 and 20+ yds runs, something we never see around here. 

Oh it's coming SBD, time to get that little notepad out and start writing down some scores to settle because it's coming, it's a new day in Miami. 

-I'm trying to keep up and look forward instead of bathing in misery and the past...just for this one summer   I need a break. I'm running with hope this year and I would be more concerned but they did bring in a pretty strong OC and supporting coaching staff, perhaps too many chefs but we'll see. And let's not forget the D-1-1 which is all 11 starters on Defense return. 

I think fans feel like Indiana Jones taking a leap of faith but I prefer this analogy going into '22 as we're Going for a Ride and it would be best if everyone just strap in right now. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

While I'm teeing off on things today, I had a thought about Miami's new running game. 

-The Zone Blocking scheme goes back past Kyle Shanahan to his father Mike who took a 6th round running back in Terrell Davis and won B2B Super Bowls and launched a Hall of Fame career. Let's not pretend this is a mystery what's about to happen in South Florida. We haven't had a stud running game IMO since about 50 years ago. I loved Tony Nathan and Ricky Williams was amazing and I even enjoyed some of the Reggie Bush moves but lately and mostly in between we have stunk and I think we are going to have a strong running game to make life easier on Tua and all those weapons in the passing game. 

And this is what I am most interested in over the summer, our ground game and ground attack along the OL. We get that ironed out and part of an attack plan that puts pressure on Defenses that are largely built to stop the pass these days, many operate in Nickel and Dime exclusively. How much fun to tee off and run forcing then into 7 man boxes with Hill and Waddle licking their chops on the outside and Gesicki carving up the middle. We are likely to use a FB/H-Back at least part of the time increasing the number of blockers we will have clearing the way for whoever takes the pitch. I expect plenty of 2nd and 5, 2nd and 4 this year because we are blowing open holes for once. 

And all that sets up incredible play action and if Tua continues to keep his completion rate up, he's going to succeed. It's that simple. Once in a while he'll drop back and let one fly up the sidelines for 30-40 yds but he's going to have his way underneath and this new run game is going to set the tone for the passing game. 

Imagine Miami with a lead and the ability to run the football, that's not something we could say often down here. It's May, lovely time where it's all coming up 

 

[TripleThreat]

Sony Michel.

Cmon down, you’re the next contestant on “RBC in Miami”

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Sony Michel.

Cmon down, you’re the next contestant on “RBC in Miami”

-Chase Edmonds, inside track for a decent chunk of the touches, will be utilized in the passing game although it should be noted that there a lot of mouths to feed at WR/TE now with legit options at all 3 WR slots, hard to imagine a RB catching more than 35-40 balls. 

-Raheem Mostert, like that he will teach the playbook to everyone else but he hasn't had much production due to the pandemic and injuries since 2019 and he's 30 yrs old and they paid him like $2-$3 but not a lot of money and if he makes the final cuts, great, if he makes it past Sept, great. Not expecting him to be around in January. 

-ZaQuandre White, pretty well liked by a lot of the fans and beat writers as potentially being under the radar. Camp reports is all we can hope for right now. 

-Sony Michel, apparently signing here in Miami. Likely a result of resources poured in and new scheme for the OL/Offense. I'm not a big fan of his but I think it speaks to what is being put together here and veterans that see potential in 2022. 

Myles Gaskin and Salvon Ahmed are both still on the roster but not likely to factor in as much this year. 

Gaskin-(2020) 972 rush/rec 41 catches 5 TDs, (2021) 846 rush/rec, 49 rec, 7 TDs...90 catches and 12 TDs sprinkled in over the last 2 season and yet he's an absolute disaster at RB.  

Did I miss anyone?

 

[SoBeDad]

-Chase Edmonds, inside track for a decent chunk of the touches, will be utilized in the passing game although it should be noted that there a lot of mouths to feed at WR/TE now with legit options at all 3 WR slots, hard to imagine a RB catching more than 35-40 balls. 

-Raheem Mostert, like that he will teach the playbook to everyone else but he hasn't had much production due to the pandemic and injuries since 2019 and he's 30 yrs old and they paid him like $2-$3 but not a lot of money and if he makes the final cuts, great, if he makes it past Sept, great. Not expecting him to be around in January. 

-ZaQuandre White, pretty well liked by a lot of the fans and beat writers as potentially being under the radar. Camp reports is all we can hope for right now. 

-Sony Michel, apparently signing here in Miami. Likely a result of resources poured in and new scheme for the OL/Offense. I'm not a big fan of his but I think it speaks to what is being put together here and veterans that see potential in 2022. 

Myles Gaskin and Salvon Ahmed are both still on the roster but not likely to factor in as much this year. 

Gaskin-(2020) 972 rush/rec 41 catches 5 TDs, (2021) 846 rush/rec, 49 rec, 7 TDs...90 catches and 12 TDs sprinkled in over the last 2 season and yet he's an absolute disaster at RB.  

Did I miss anyone?

Gerrid Doaks. He was protected on the practice squad last year, so they must see something. 5'11" 228 pounds.  39.5" vertical and 4.58u in the 40. It wouldn't surprise me if Doaks or White make a splash. Mostert fits the scheme, but can stay healthy?

Nice improvement over Gaskin and Ahmed overall.  Surprised they didn't just keep Duke who excelled late last year.

 

[JoeKappBudGrant]

Miami appears to be trying to corner the market on NFC West RB"s, maybe M. Lynch will come out of retirement.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Gerrid Doaks. He was protected on the practice squad last year, so they must see something. 5'11" 228 pounds.  39.5" vertical and 4.58u in the 40. It wouldn't surprise me if Doaks or White make a splash. Mostert fits the scheme, but can stay healthy?

Nice improvement over Gaskin and Ahmed overall.  Surprised they didn't just keep Duke who excelled late last year.

Duke Johnson ends up in Buffalo...he might be ahead of Moss right now. The rookie Cook will be part of a rotation and then they have Singletary. My guess is Cook will beat everyone out by October and be the guy getting at least half the touches at RB. 

-I don't think the Bills can just line up and run people over, they've upgraded their Defense more so than adding a ton of Offense, as long as Josh Allen is upright they seem to have plenty of pop. I would like to see Miami try and shorten the game vs Buffalo, long drives with TDs and at least get the Bills off the field every other drive.