2025 Philadelphia Eagles - West Coast offense, Run and Shoot offense, Narcoleptic offense, in that order. (85 Viewers)

[Terpman22]

For the optimists out there this is what it took for the Philadelphia Eagles to lose:

14 penalties for 96 yds
2 turnovers
24 unanswered points
A defensive collapse- 473 yards and 7 YPP
No Lane Johnson
And they still only lost due to a last-second FG

The team that beat them had

8 penalties for 70 yds
2 turnovers in the RZ
Their All Pro WR with multiple drops including an easy TD
Missed fg


The eagles were lucky they didn’t get blown out

Oh man gtfo

I only posted the facts friend. I didn’t mention stuff like the partially blocked point that was ruled roughing and gave you 7 pts.
Which part isn’t true?

Take the OPI that should have been called on Pickens on the deep catch on Dejean and it evens out.

This me saying my opinion of a non call as fact.

Did I do it right?

You can do whatever you want

I’m just glad you’re still here after all of your first half celebrating the other day the likes of which FBG has never seen. I thought you might disappear

LOL the only thing disappearing is the Cowboys when the playoffs start.

Nice Super Bowl win though, truly.

Must be an All Timer for you guys considering the celebrations still going on

Oh no. You don’t get to say you were gonna hulk smash the Cowboys all week and now flip the script like it didn’t mean anything and turn your nose up.

I’m not gonna rub it in but finish eating your crow with no complaints young man.

This is sports. This is what we do.

You can rub it in all you want, you earned it. Just know that the pendulum always swings back.

I saw the Cowboys playoff odds "Jumped to 6%" with that big win on Sunday.

Will make sure I pay my respects to the Cowboys 2025 season once its dead.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

It was a great game. It wasn’t our Super Bowl but it ranks up there. We are gonna gloat on this for a little bit but thanksgiving against another good team on a short week after an emotional win like that is treacherous.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

For the optimists out there this is what it took for the Philadelphia Eagles to lose:

14 penalties for 96 yds
2 turnovers
24 unanswered points
A defensive collapse- 473 yards and 7 YPP
No Lane Johnson
And they still only lost due to a last-second FG

The team that beat them had

8 penalties for 70 yds
2 turnovers in the RZ
Their All Pro WR with multiple drops including an easy TD
Missed fg


The eagles were lucky they didn’t get blown out

Oh man gtfo

I only posted the facts friend. I didn’t mention stuff like the partially blocked point that was ruled roughing and gave you 7 pts.
Which part isn’t true?

Take the OPI that should have been called on Pickens on the deep catch on Dejean and it evens out.

This me saying my opinion of a non call as fact.

Did I do it right?

You can do whatever you want

I’m just glad you’re still here after all of your first half celebrating the other day the likes of which FBG has never seen. I thought you might disappear

LOL the only thing disappearing is the Cowboys when the playoffs start.

Nice Super Bowl win though, truly.

Must be an All Timer for you guys considering the celebrations still going on

Oh no. You don’t get to say you were gonna hulk smash the Cowboys all week and now flip the script like it didn’t mean anything and turn your nose up.

I’m not gonna rub it in but finish eating your crow with no complaints young man.

This is sports. This is what we do.

You can rub it in all you want, you earned it. Just know that the pendulum always swings back.

I saw the Cowboys playoff odds "Jumped to 6%" with that big win on Sunday.

Will make sure I pay my respects to the Cowboys 2025 season once its dead.

I’m really not the rubbing in type. I celebrate but I don’t care to be a ****.

With that said - you can never put aside your bias for ten seconds. EVERY SINGLE post has to be petty. No mutual respect.

In other words -you’re a waste of time.

So with that said, Have a great season guy.

ETA - Classless. That’s what your are.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Will make sure I pay my respects to the Cowboys 2025 season once its dead.

Save it lol

 

[need2know]

One thing that really bothers me is how much different the team is just from last year. Cant run the ball. Mindset used to be aggressive go for it on 4th all the time. Now we try 60 yard fgs. Used to habe long time consuming drives. Now we go 3 and out most of the time. Even the shove has gotten weaker.

 

[Terpman22]

One thing that really bothers me is how much different the team is just from last year. Cant run the ball. Mindset used to be aggressive go for it on 4th all the time. Now we try 60 yard fgs. Used to habe long time consuming drives. Now we go 3 and out most of the time. Even the shove has gotten weaker.

Coaching matters.

Look at the defensive improvement from '23 to '24

We just have the opposite in the form of offensive regression '24 to '25

Plus we are JUST NOT getting a pass rush at all this year. 22 sacks is weeeeeaaaaaak.

 

[unckeyherb]

One thing that really bothers me is how much different the team is just from last year. Cant run the ball. Mindset used to be aggressive go for it on 4th all the time. Now we try 60 yard fgs. Used to habe long time consuming drives. Now we go 3 and out most of the time. Even the shove has gotten weaker.

Letting Becton go in free agency was maybe the worst decision Howie made last year. It affects the run game, it affects the tush push, the timing, everything. That oline last year dominated everyone they faced and because of that, the offense could kind of do whatever they wanted. It’s the opposite this year.

To be clear I don’t place all the blame on Steen, he has been decent. The constant nagging injuries to Cam, Landon, now Lane with the lisfranc, are equally to blame.

 

[need2know]

One thing that really bothers me is how much different the team is just from last year. Cant run the ball. Mindset used to be aggressive go for it on 4th all the time. Now we try 60 yard fgs. Used to habe long time consuming drives. Now we go 3 and out most of the time. Even the shove has gotten weaker.

Letting Becton go in free agency was maybe the worst decision Howie made last year. It affects the run game, it affects the tush push, the timing, everything. That oline last year dominated everyone they faced and because of that, the offense could kind of do whatever they wanted. It’s the opposite this year.

To be clear I don’t place all the blame on Steen, he has been decent. The constant nagging injuries to Cam, Landon, now Lane with the lisfranc, are equally to blame.

Crazy how our greatest strength for years is now screwing us

 

[Terpman22]

One thing that really bothers me is how much different the team is just from last year. Cant run the ball. Mindset used to be aggressive go for it on 4th all the time. Now we try 60 yard fgs. Used to habe long time consuming drives. Now we go 3 and out most of the time. Even the shove has gotten weaker.

Letting Becton go in free agency was maybe the worst decision Howie made last year. It affects the run game, it affects the tush push, the timing, everything. That oline last year dominated everyone they faced and because of that, the offense could kind of do whatever they wanted. It’s the opposite this year.

To be clear I don’t place all the blame on Steen, he has been decent. The constant nagging injuries to Cam, Landon, now Lane with the lisfranc, are equally to blame.

I saw something on the internets today saying every single time Steen would tap Jurgens on the back it was a pass play on Sunday.

Just giving free tells out here.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Going through the play by play, no wonder their offense stalled. They threw on nearly every first down. Were behind the chains all second half.

Maybe you checked the wrong game?

After they went up 21-0

-First snap of the next drive is a Barkley 2 yard run

-After half it’s an 8 yard pass. Next play goes for 20 but illegal formation

-Next drive opens with a Barkley 1 yard run

-Next drive opens with another Barkley 1 yard run

-Next drive after Dallas scores to make it 21-14 is a 10 yard pass by Hurts for a first down. Next play is a Barkley 1 yard run.

-After Dallas ties it we get a 7 yard Hurts run, 19 yard Hurts pass. Drive ends with a Barkley fumble

-Next and last drive is an 11 yard pass and a 16 yard pass.

3rd quarter:

1st drive - pass, pass pass
2nd drive - run, pass, pass, run, pass, pass
3rd drive - run, run, scramble (pass)
4th drive - pass, run, pass, pass, pass, pass

4th quarter:

5th drive - scramble (pass), pass, pass, scramble (pass), pass, pass, pass
6th drive - pass, pass, pass, pass, pass

I know what I wrote. Look at the results and what you posted. They don’t make sense.

They ran the ball 5 times in the 2nd half. They played behind the stick the entire time. It makes total sense.

Saquon Barkley -- since bye week (3 games)

58 carries, 165 yards, 0 TD, 2.8 YPC

Longest run is 15 yards.

“Not running him or the back up to him more is the reason”

Landon Dickerson, we "weren't prepared" for the Dallas defensive schemes. This is a problem.

Tank Bigsby since week 7: 18 carries, 164 yards, 0 TD, 9.1 YPC

"He only gets the ball on 3rd and 20. We can't use him more."

You agree that it’s completely unreasonable to think he will continue to get 9 ypc. Right? I’m all for trying new things and maybe he will provide a spark. I think it’s highly unlikely that he does much better than Saquon has been, his six Carrie’s in third and really long notwithstanding.

Of his 18 carries, only 5 have been in long down and distance.

 

[Snotbubbles]

One thing that really bothers me is how much different the team is just from last year. Cant run the ball. Mindset used to be aggressive go for it on 4th all the time. Now we try 60 yard fgs. Used to habe long time consuming drives. Now we go 3 and out most of the time. Even the shove has gotten weaker.

Letting Becton go in free agency was maybe the worst decision Howie made last year. It affects the run game, it affects the tush push, the timing, everything. That oline last year dominated everyone they faced and because of that, the offense could kind of do whatever they wanted. It’s the opposite this year.

To be clear I don’t place all the blame on Steen, he has been decent. The constant nagging injuries to Cam, Landon, now Lane with the lisfranc, are equally to blame.

I expect OL to be a huge priority in the draft.

They also have some big decision to make again this offseason: Goedert, Dean, Blankenship, Phillips

I like the value they got with Jihaad Campbell, but he's a clone of Zach Baun and isn't a middle linebacker so he's kind of blocked from playing his natural position. Feel like Howie missed an opportunity to either get Simmons for the OL or Emmanwori for the secondary at that spot. I also didn't like the Makuba pick, he was labeled as undersized, and while I understand the pick (CJGJ clone), I just think that Xavier Watts would have been the better selection if you were going safety. Makuba is probably going to be an injury risk much like CJGJ was/is.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Going through the play by play, no wonder their offense stalled. They threw on nearly every first down. Were behind the chains all second half.

Maybe you checked the wrong game?

After they went up 21-0

-First snap of the next drive is a Barkley 2 yard run

-After half it’s an 8 yard pass. Next play goes for 20 but illegal formation

-Next drive opens with a Barkley 1 yard run

-Next drive opens with another Barkley 1 yard run

-Next drive after Dallas scores to make it 21-14 is a 10 yard pass by Hurts for a first down. Next play is a Barkley 1 yard run.

-After Dallas ties it we get a 7 yard Hurts run, 19 yard Hurts pass. Drive ends with a Barkley fumble

-Next and last drive is an 11 yard pass and a 16 yard pass.

3rd quarter:

1st drive - pass, pass pass
2nd drive - run, pass, pass, run, pass, pass
3rd drive - run, run, scramble (pass)
4th drive - pass, run, pass, pass, pass, pass

4th quarter:

5th drive - scramble (pass), pass, pass, scramble (pass), pass, pass, pass
6th drive - pass, pass, pass, pass, pass

I know what I wrote. Look at the results and what you posted. They don’t make sense.

They ran the ball 5 times in the 2nd half. They played behind the stick the entire time. It makes total sense.

Saquon Barkley -- since bye week (3 games)

58 carries, 165 yards, 0 TD, 2.8 YPC

Longest run is 15 yards.

“Not running him or the back up to him more is the reason”

Landon Dickerson, we "weren't prepared" for the Dallas defensive schemes. This is a problem.

Tank Bigsby since week 7: 18 carries, 164 yards, 0 TD, 9.1 YPC

"He only gets the ball on 3rd and 20. We can't use him more."

You agree that it’s completely unreasonable to think he will continue to get 9 ypc. Right? I’m all for trying new things and maybe he will provide a spark. I think it’s highly unlikely that he does much better than Saquon has been, his six Carrie’s in third and really long notwithstanding.

Of his 18 carries, only 5 have been in long down and distance.

What did those runs for yardage wise?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

They have to be tipping the plays, either formation or something. And getting to LOS with 10secs left isn’t ideal either

They’re not tipping plays per se. Teams have tendencies and with each passing week they’re more and more telling. Good/great coaches are also good/great at scouting themselves and beating their own tendencies. Example being they’ll show you a look they know you’ve seen 20-30x and instead of pulling for a run they’ll pass etc. The OC is taking so long to get plays in because he has no idea what to even call most times.

Here’s a sad but true stat for the Eagles in 2025:

The Eagles have scored seven points or less in an entire half in eight of their 11 games played.

Some insight from Foles.

 

[The Noid]

Letting Becton go in free agency was maybe the worst decision Howie made last year.

Eh, not so sure. He’s been benched multiple times this season by the Chargers due to poor play. So much so that the 5th round comp pick we expected to get for losing him is in serious danger of dropping to a 6th because he might not hit playing time minimums.

 

[Terpman22]

They have to be tipping the plays, either formation or something. And getting to LOS with 10secs left isn’t ideal either

They’re not tipping plays per se. Teams have tendencies and with each passing week they’re more and more telling. Good/great coaches are also good/great at scouting themselves and beating their own tendencies. Example being they’ll show you a look they know you’ve seen 20-30x and instead of pulling for a run they’ll pass etc. The OC is taking so long to get plays in because he has no idea what to even call most times.

Here’s a sad but true stat for the Eagles in 2025:

The Eagles have scored seven points or less in an entire half in eight of their 11 games played.

Some insight from Foles.

There is an art to playcalling and there is an art to calling a game as well.

KP is not good at either.

But...when is Nick getting into coaching?? You can just FEEL the passion his his voice when he talks football

 

[DJackson10]

Going through the play by play, no wonder their offense stalled. They threw on nearly every first down. Were behind the chains all second half.

Maybe you checked the wrong game?

After they went up 21-0

-First snap of the next drive is a Barkley 2 yard run

-After half it’s an 8 yard pass. Next play goes for 20 but illegal formation

-Next drive opens with a Barkley 1 yard run

-Next drive opens with another Barkley 1 yard run

-Next drive after Dallas scores to make it 21-14 is a 10 yard pass by Hurts for a first down. Next play is a Barkley 1 yard run.

-After Dallas ties it we get a 7 yard Hurts run, 19 yard Hurts pass. Drive ends with a Barkley fumble

-Next and last drive is an 11 yard pass and a 16 yard pass.

3rd quarter:

1st drive - pass, pass pass
2nd drive - run, pass, pass, run, pass, pass
3rd drive - run, run, scramble (pass)
4th drive - pass, run, pass, pass, pass, pass

4th quarter:

5th drive - scramble (pass), pass, pass, scramble (pass), pass, pass, pass
6th drive - pass, pass, pass, pass, pass

I know what I wrote. Look at the results and what you posted. They don’t make sense.

They ran the ball 5 times in the 2nd half. They played behind the stick the entire time. It makes total sense.

Saquon Barkley -- since bye week (3 games)

58 carries, 165 yards, 0 TD, 2.8 YPC

Longest run is 15 yards.

“Not running him or the back up to him more is the reason”

Landon Dickerson, we "weren't prepared" for the Dallas defensive schemes. This is a problem.

Tank Bigsby since week 7: 18 carries, 164 yards, 0 TD, 9.1 YPC

"He only gets the ball on 3rd and 20. We can't use him more."

Safe to say we need to try new things

Yeah, I'm not saying bench Barkley and make Bigsby the bell cow, but mix it up a little. Throw both guys in the backfield. Put a WR back there to try and get a LB matchup. It feels like the movie "Idiocracy" where Luke Wilson is taking the IQ test and the two guys next to him are trying to put round blocks into square holes. One side is Kevin Patullo and the other side is Nick Sirianni.

Nick is getting out coached a lot too this season. Last year they ran a few plays with Barkley and Shipley in the backfield. Like mix it up. I’m also seeing teams put their WRs back there in motion and running routes etc. absolutely zero creativity here. I could probably use my created Madden 26 playbook and call better more creative stuff then what they are doing now.

At this rate this offseason I wouldn’t mind if we brought in a big time College OC who’s creative as our OC. Hell giants ran a nice gadget play that got Winston a TD. It almost didn’t work but the point is teams are trying stuff while we’re stuck in the mud.

 

[DJackson10]

They have to be tipping the plays, either formation or something. And getting to LOS with 10secs left isn’t ideal either

They’re not tipping plays per se. Teams have tendencies and with each passing week they’re more and more telling. Good/great coaches are also good/great at scouting themselves and beating their own tendencies. Example being they’ll show you a look they know you’ve seen 20-30x and instead of pulling for a run they’ll pass etc. The OC is taking so long to get plays in because he has no idea what to even call most times.

Here’s a sad but true stat for the Eagles in 2025:

The Eagles have scored seven points or less in an entire half in eight of their 11 games played.

How have we won 8 games

Talent alone plus other teams coaches trying to outsmart themselves. We probably lose the Det game if Campbell didn’t try to get too cute. Plus our defense has carried us.

 

[DJackson10]

The penalties have been a recurring theme all season. Mailata commented on it on his show tonight. Said it is keeping the offense out of getting into a rythym and is basically jamming up anything they try to do. He sounded extremely irritated.

Nick keeps saying we need to control and be great at what we can that doesn’t involve talent. That stuff means getting out of the huddle and not having too many men in the fold, not False Starting etc. they’ve sucked this year at it.

 

[DJackson10]

For the optimists out there this is what it took for the Philadelphia Eagles to lose:

14 penalties for 96 yds
2 turnovers
24 unanswered points
A defensive collapse- 473 yards and 7 YPP
No Lane Johnson
And they still only lost due to a last-second FG

The team that beat them had

8 penalties for 70 yds
2 turnovers in the RZ
Their All Pro WR with multiple drops including an easy TD
Missed fg


The eagles were lucky they didn’t get blown out

I hate agreeing with @Cowboysfan8 here but he’s right. We also got lucky with Lambs drops in the first game.

 

[DJackson10]

One thing that really bothers me is how much different the team is just from last year. Cant run the ball. Mindset used to be aggressive go for it on 4th all the time. Now we try 60 yard fgs. Used to habe long time consuming drives. Now we go 3 and out most of the time. Even the shove has gotten weaker.

Letting Becton go in free agency was maybe the worst decision Howie made last year. It affects the run game, it affects the tush push, the timing, everything. That oline last year dominated everyone they faced and because of that, the offense could kind of do whatever they wanted. It’s the opposite this year.

To be clear I don’t place all the blame on Steen, he has been decent. The constant nagging injuries to Cam, Landon, now Lane with the lisfranc, are equally to blame.

I expect OL to be a huge priority in the draft.

They also have some big decision to make again this offseason: Goedert, Dean, Blankenship, Phillips

I like the value they got with Jihaad Campbell, but he's a clone of Zach Baun and isn't a middle linebacker so he's kind of blocked from playing his natural position. Feel like Howie missed an opportunity to either get Simmons for the OL or Emmanwori for the secondary at that spot. I also didn't like the Makuba pick, he was labeled as undersized, and while I understand the pick (CJGJ clone), I just think that Xavier Watts would have been the better selection if you were going safety. Makuba is probably going to be an injury risk much like CJGJ was/is.

I heard Fangio wasn’t a big Fan of Watts and really liked Makuba. He was pretty upset to let CJ go but knew what Howie was doing and was apparently promised he could pick the replacement which was Makuba.

 

[DJackson10]

They have to be tipping the plays, either formation or something. And getting to LOS with 10secs left isn’t ideal either

They’re not tipping plays per se. Teams have tendencies and with each passing week they’re more and more telling. Good/great coaches are also good/great at scouting themselves and beating their own tendencies. Example being they’ll show you a look they know you’ve seen 20-30x and instead of pulling for a run they’ll pass etc. The OC is taking so long to get plays in because he has no idea what to even call most times.

Here’s a sad but true stat for the Eagles in 2025:

The Eagles have scored seven points or less in an entire half in eight of their 11 games played.

Some insight from Foles.

There is an art to playcalling and there is an art to calling a game as well.

KP is not good at either.

But...when is Nick getting into coaching?? You can just FEEL the passion his his voice when he talks football

He literally said he won’t call plays yesterday. I don’t know if it’s ignorance at this point or what. What happens if we have another collapse? We can’t keep firing the OC every other year after we pick a good one and then someone steals them for a HC gig.

 

[DJackson10]

One in house option is Our QB coach who called plays at Bowling green last. At least give him a look rest of the year

 

[need2know]

One in house option is Our QB coach who called plays at Bowling green last. At least give him a look rest of the year

whoever they switch to cannot be worse.

 

[Terpman22]

One in house option is Our QB coach who called plays at Bowling green last. At least give him a look rest of the year

whoever they switch to cannot be worse.

Can we get Brian Johnson back

Asking for a friend...

Brian Johnson had the offense scoring points, they were just turning the ball over too much

 

[Bigboy10182000]

We can’t keep firing the OC every other year after we pick a good one and then someone steals them for a HC gig.

If the trends continue every fan would be on board with this.

Also, they have to hit on an in house OC one time right?

Getting a Vic equivalent is the way to go. If Daboll is interested he’d be a lock. He’s already coached Hurts and has had great success as an OC.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Can we get Brian Johnson back

Sure. Let’s grab him and Duce too! They’re readily available every year lol

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I hate agreeing with @Cowboysfan8 here but he’s right

That’s just rude. I’ve agreed with you before on a few things

 

[Zeppelin]

Crazy how our greatest strength for years is now screwing us

Lions fans feel the same pain.

 

[Terpman22]

Crazy how our greatest strength for years is now screwing us

Lions fans feel the same pain.

You guys are 2nd in the league in Rushing YPC. Stop.

 

[Zeppelin]

Crazy how our greatest strength for years is now screwing us

Lions fans feel the same pain.

You guys are 2nd in the league in Rushing YPC. Stop.

The pass protection on the interior is terrible and the biggest reason we lost 3 of the 4 losses we have. Losing Ragnow was a killer.

 

[Insein]

Crazy how our greatest strength for years is now screwing us

Lions fans feel the same pain.

You guys are 2nd in the league in Rushing YPC. Stop.

The pass protection on the interior is terrible and the biggest reason we lost 3 of the 4 losses we have. Losing Ragnow was a killer.

As a Gibbs owner, I see it too. If he's not hitting home runs, he's barely getting 3-4 yards due to the line collapsing.

 

[DJackson10]

One in house option is Our QB coach who called plays at Bowling green last. At least give him a look rest of the year

whoever they switch to cannot be worse.

Can we get Brian Johnson back

Asking for a friend...

Brian Johnson had the offense scoring points, they were just turning the ball over too much

The dude was literally scapegoated because Nick had to Micromanage and kept undermining it. Howie and Jeff gave Nick and ultimatum after he fired Johnson, either let us help hire the next OC or you can pack your bags. Literally the same option they told Doug. Nick chose the first option. I clearly think that Moore was hired not just on merit but if Moore did well but the season was going bad again, Nick was gonna get fired and Moore would’ve been Interim HC and been auditioning for the HC job for this season.

The win total and record etc looks great from an outside perspective but the whole operation right now doesn’t smell right. Roseman and Lurie with Sirianni need to get to the gist of the problems and figure it out.

 

[DJackson10]

We can’t keep firing the OC every other year after we pick a good one and then someone steals them for a HC gig.

If the trends continue every fan would be on board with this.

Also, they have to hit on an in house OC one time right?

Getting a Vic equivalent is the way to go. If Daboll is interested he’d be a lock. He’s already coached Hurts and has had great success as an OC.

I’d rather not take a guy who almost got his rookie QB killed

 

[DJackson10]

I hate agreeing with @Cowboysfan8 here but he’s right

That’s just rude. I’ve agreed with you before on a few things

It’s all good

 

[Bigboy10182000]

We can’t keep firing the OC every other year after we pick a good one and then someone steals them for a HC gig.

If the trends continue every fan would be on board with this.

Also, they have to hit on an in house OC one time right?

Getting a Vic equivalent is the way to go. If Daboll is interested he’d be a lock. He’s already coached Hurts and has had great success as an OC.

I’d rather not take a guy who almost got his rookie QB killed

Meh, he was fighting for his job. I’d take him in a sec.

 

[Insein]

Well this ain't good.

Devonta and Saquon both questionable for Friday.

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