Their CB's are easily the worst in the league. Too bad there aren't WR's who can take advantage of this.
Closer to the bottom of the pack in total yards against, and YPC against. Have given up a decent amount of 20+ yard runs too. Overall, their defense is pretty meh in general.
So, likely won't have much of an issue shutting the Steelers' run game down.
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steelers1080
Footballguy
NFL suspends Ravens Guard for 3 games. Perfectly after our game and he'll be back for the next game. Cool NFL, cool cool cool.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Is he a starter?
The_Man
Footballguy
He's their 7th or 8th O Lineman, only ever plays on the Field Goal blocking unit and has been a healthy scratch for the last 3 games prior to the suspension. I think the Steelers will somehow overcome this massive adversity
steelers1080
Footballguy
No, good point. He used to be, but I guess not currently.
steelers1080
Footballguy
It's projected to be a frigid game Monday night, and Tua hasn't been very good in any game under 40F, so here's hoping that holds up for 1 more game.
cdclopper
Footballguy
They should worry more about Achane. He'll probably go for 200.
On the other hand, they've struggled with quarterbacks who get rid of the ball real quick. And that's one thing that Tua is half decent at. Unless he's frozen stiff.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
'Never Seen That Before': Teammates Reveal Additional Details On Metcalf's Gunner Snap
Late in the game facing a critical punting situation last Sunday at M&T Bank Stadium against the Baltimore Ravens, Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver DK Metcalf stepped up in a big moment. Metcalf, who was in the midst of a season-best performance with seven receptions for 148 yards, showed just...
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Just got an alert on my ESPN app that Watt is in the hospital experiencing lung discomfort. They’ve already ruled him out of practice for tomorrow. Hopefully something minor. 
HellToupee
Footballguy
Supposedly from a treatment they were doing at the facilityJust got an alert on my ESPN app that Watt is in the hospital experiencing lung discomfort. They’ve already ruled him out of practice for tomorrow. Hopefully something minor.
bryhamm
Footballguy
What the hell kind of treatment could they be doing that would effect his lungs?Supposedly from a treatment they were doing at the facilityJust got an alert on my ESPN app that Watt is in the hospital experiencing lung discomfort. They’ve already ruled him out of practice for tomorrow. Hopefully something minor.
Gold Fox
Footballguy
What the hell kind of treatment could they be doing that would effect his lungs?Supposedly from a treatment they were doing at the facilityJust got an alert on my ESPN app that Watt is in the hospital experiencing lung discomfort. They’ve already ruled him out of practice for tomorrow. Hopefully something minor.
Chargers' Taylor had lung punctured by team doc
A Chargers team doctor accidentally punctured Tyrod Taylor's lung just before kickoff Sunday while trying to administer a pain-killing injection, leading to the quarterback missing the team's game against the Chiefs, coach Anthony Lynn told ESPN.
fatness
Footballguy
Watt had a small hole in his lung which was supposedly fixed in the hospital.
https://x.com/gmfb/status/1999485315950739506
https://x.com/gmfb/status/1999485315950739506
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Herbig Show.
Will be interesting to see how this goes given that Watt hasn't had the big numbers -- but does draw attention.
Dizzy
Footballguy
On McAfee just now, Pat stating something to the effect of... after speaking to J.J. Watt, T.J. Watt was getting a "dry needle" treatment at the Steelers facility, had serious discomfort afterwards, rushed to the hospital and had to undergo immediate surgery to treat a collapsed lung and repair the hole.
Dry needling being compared to something like an acupuncture procedure to help in post-game recovery. Sounds very common, but occasionally - things do go wrong.
Dry needling being compared to something like an acupuncture procedure to help in post-game recovery. Sounds very common, but occasionally - things do go wrong.
fatness
Footballguy
That's what happened to Tyrod Taylor, isn't it?
Dizzy
Footballguy
That was A.J. Hawk's first comment (on McAfee). Others chimed in with stories of infections and blood clots that cost players games (extended in some cases).
Interesting to hear them all say (3 are former players) how common this dry needling technique is.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
His was from a pain injection I thought. This sounds more like acupuncture.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Yes it will be nice to see what this D is capable of without Watt.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Not a doctor but just the term “dry needling” sounds sketch.
fatness
Footballguy
I thought so too so I looked it up.
T.J. Watt's collapsed lung injury update, dry needling explained
Is dry needling common for NFL players? How long will the Steelers' star be sidelined? Here's what we know.
And then the iffy part.
Being a club worth millions of dollars, I'm sure (hopeful) that the Steelers employ someone competent to do the procedure.
rockaction
Footballguy
Man, I hope he’s okay just as a guy. Damn, what are they doing?
I don’t know. Not blaming anybody but that is massively uncool for him and then the club, in that order and with a serious distance between.
I don’t know. Not blaming anybody but that is massively uncool for him and then the club, in that order and with a serious distance between.
Dry needling fail
I've had it for back spasms. It 100% relaxes muscles immediately and surely can aid recovery (although my pinched nerve would still re-spasm)
From what my PT said it's pretty hard to screw up - someone is unemployed today and should be.
We'll see what post TJ might look like.
I've had it for back spasms. It 100% relaxes muscles immediately and surely can aid recovery (although my pinched nerve would still re-spasm)
From what my PT said it's pretty hard to screw up - someone is unemployed today and should be.
We'll see what post TJ might look like.
H8fulHuck
Footballguy
The depth of how cheap Art is supporting the team frustrates me as a Steelers fan. Smallest coaching staff. Refuses to let terrible coaches go so he doesn't have to pay someone else more. Made the city pay for a stadium shared with other teams resulting in sub-par field conditions. Poor survey results year over year by NFL players regarding ownership support and facilities.
I hope someone does some good investigative reporting here.
I hope someone does some good investigative reporting here.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Probably, because I think Baltimore would have a better record vs. common opponents in that scenario (they already do, IIRC, so it wouldn't be getting worse).
I think you mean if the Ravens go 2-1 the rest of the way, correct?
if the Steelers go 2-2, losing to the Ravens and beating the Browns, the 3rd tie-breaker is
- Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I think it depends.
I’m pretty sure if the Steelers 2 wins are Detroit and Cleveland and Baltimore’s loss is New England, the Steelers would get in on the next tiebreaker (conference record). In this scenario, I think both teams would have the same record against common opponents. I could be wrong as I quickly did this manually and didn’t use one of those playoff calculators.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Scratch that - I guess Baltimore would win the division even in that scenario. So it probably will come down to week 18.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Basically how im understanding it: Unless the Steelers went 2-0 this week and next and the Ravens went 0-2 lwhich now they cant) then there was no way week 18 wouldnt matter.
I guess the Steelers could go 1-2 or 0-3 while Ravens go 3-0 in and that would also make it meaningless, because then the Ravens would either have a 2 game lead going into 18, or own the tiebreakers even if the Steelers wound up winning in week 18 to make them have identical records. But that's me going off memory and not checking the actual common opponent games.
The bottom line is they need to beat Miami at home this week.
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
As an outsider this feels like the typical Tomlin barely beat .500 rollercoaster. Win tonight looking good. Get blown out next week vs the Lions. Alternate each week. Rinse repeat.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Let’s see what happens next week.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
If Dylan Cook didnt get a game ball, he should have.
cdclopper
Footballguy
FR is he the new starting left tackle? I hope so.
Btw, he signed my son's football last year at training camp. I said he's probably just a camp body, won't even make the team. Shows what I know.
ThaPenguin
Footballguy
Steelers can go 0-2 and Ravens 2-0 the next 2 weeks, and week 18 would still be win and in.
If Steelers go at least 1-1 and Ravens 0-2, they would clinch the division and week 18 doesn't matter. Rooting hard against the Ravens just got funner.
If Steelers go at least 1-1 and Ravens 0-2, they would clinch the division and week 18 doesn't matter. Rooting hard against the Ravens just got funner.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Good position to be in. Yesterday gave me more optimism than I’ve had all year.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
I had Det as an "L" from jump, and still expect that to happen. Lions DBs have been decimated,but thats a pretty tough place to beat Goff.
What CANNOT happen is for them to go have a "DTR" type game against Deoin's kid no matter what happens in Michigan.
Some good signs last night agaisnt a meh team, but a meh team that had been super hot. Still some other things that were "same as it ever was" (they just refuse to score in the first quarter, they keep "tipping coverages" by using Malik Harrison too much) ...but we did also see some actual adjustments from the coaches too.
Was glad to see the calls to go for it on 4th more. I wanted them to do it late in the 4th as well. Would have most likely ended the game with them holding the ball for 8 mins. Fins D had quit by then.
Still gave up a bad YPA to Achane, but they did what you should do against those types: Keep the ball so he cant hurt you.
Porter essentially erased Waddle.
Wondering how much the shift from "all screens, all the time" in the 1st/early second was on #8 over Artie?
If the Steelers beat the Browns and Baltimore loses any game the Steelers win the division.
Lazzard should be a Steeler by tomorrow.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
They played it with 3:00 min left in the 3rd. It got a rowdy response from the crowdAaron Rogers makes it look easy when the running game is working. Dude can still spin it with a flick of the wrist.
Any word on Renegade last night?
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ThaPenguin
Footballguy
This is not correct. If both teams lose this weekend, and then both teams win next weekend, week 18 h2h game wins the division, as Ravens would own the tiebreaker if both teams end with the same overall record.
Not gonna lie, wouldn't hate beating the Lions this weekend, then Ravens lose Sunday night followed by losing Saturday night, and we have the division wrapped up before facing the Browns on Sunday.
The_Man
Footballguy
this is incorrect
Ravens are 3-2 in the AFC North, Steelers are 3-1. If Steelers beat the Browns to reach 4-1, but they would still end up tied with the Ravens at 4-2 in the North if they lose to Baltimore in Week 18
As long as the Ravens and Steelers are within a game of each other going into Week 18, then that game will decide the AFC North. So if the Steelers go 2-0 and the Ravens go 0-2, then Week 18 is meaningless.
But if both teams go 2-0, or both go 1-1, or even if Pittsburgh goes 0-2 and the Ravens go 2-0, then Week 18 decides the Division
One interesting wrinkle is that if Baltimore beats New England this week and the Steelers lose to Detroit, then Week 17 is meaningless to both teams. In that scenario, it would be interesting to see how many players either team seats out. Would be funny if Lamar sits in Week 17 after the NFL flexed Baltimore-Green Bay to prime time Saturday Night.
I would like to see him get an extended look. He looks far better than Jones
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