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*** 2025 Pittsburgh Steelers: Rodgers officially signs 1 year deal (2 Viewers)
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steelcityman
Footballguy
who cares if they overpaid him? Its not your money, its not my money. Steelers have money to burn, cap room to explore. They dont care about that, nor should anyone else.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Don’t have to get to #2 to get a very good QB. Top 15 and maybe even top 20 will likely still get you into the QB lottery in a QB heavy draft. Remember where Big Ben was drafted? How many teams will be looking for a QB in the top 20 next year? Plenty of room for 4-5 very good QBs to fall into the top 20 and if they feel the NEED to move up for the one they want, they’ll have ammo to do so.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Not a Steelers fan and not plugged into them but this is exactly the first and most obvious takeaway that occurred to me.Conspiracy theory: they know Aaron Rodgers is going to retire and have decided to punt on the 2025 season
Does having less offensive weapons entice Rodgers more? Is Lazard available? IDK be careful what you wish for Rodgers really is a POS. They should have just signed Fields FFS.
I would put this thought aside.Not a Steelers fan and not plugged into them but this is exactly the first and most obvious takeaway that occurred to me.Conspiracy theory: they know Aaron Rodgers is going to retire and have decided to punt on the 2025 season
Does having less offensive weapons entice Rodgers more? Is Lazard available? IDK be careful what you wish for Rodgers really is a POS. They should have just signed Fields FFS.
Rodgers has apparently known what's up for awhile which is why he's had throwing sessions with Metcalf only.
I actually don't see it the other way but if I factor in off field stuff it might swing it a little to Metcalf.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I'm still betting he will sign there, I'm just saying that was my first reaction.I would put this thought aside.Not a Steelers fan and not plugged into them but this is exactly the first and most obvious takeaway that occurred to me.Conspiracy theory: they know Aaron Rodgers is going to retire and have decided to punt on the 2025 season
Does having less offensive weapons entice Rodgers more? Is Lazard available? IDK be careful what you wish for Rodgers really is a POS. They should have just signed Fields FFS.
Rodgers has apparently known what's up for awhile which is why he's had throwing sessions with Metcalf only.
It's also possible that GP is the headcase he has been labelled as and Rodgers didn't want that. For all I know Rodgers was the impetus to move Pickens.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
honestly I was ready to bump him before this news
He could be, really, I don't know because I'm not there. All I know is his professionalism needs some work with stuff like being on time and he allows his emotions to get the better of him. Some of that stuff could be said about Metcalf as well IMO with his on field lack of composure.I'm still betting he will sign there, I'm just saying that was my first reaction.I would put this thought aside.Not a Steelers fan and not plugged into them but this is exactly the first and most obvious takeaway that occurred to me.Conspiracy theory: they know Aaron Rodgers is going to retire and have decided to punt on the 2025 season
Does having less offensive weapons entice Rodgers more? Is Lazard available? IDK be careful what you wish for Rodgers really is a POS. They should have just signed Fields FFS.
Rodgers has apparently known what's up for awhile which is why he's had throwing sessions with Metcalf only.
It's also possible that GP is the headcase he has been labelled as and Rodgers didn't want that. For all I know Rodgers was the impetus to move Pickens.
But I got on NFLN right now and not sure who the ex-player is talking but he was just saying he thinks Pickens character stuff is way overblown, that he's just passionate and he understands how frustrated he would be with the collection of sub-standard QB's he's had to play with. That's pretty much how I've seen it. I've just thought of him as an immature guy who has lacks professionalism more then a bad egg.
Regarding Rodgers. Can't recall which beat writer I read earlier today but they said he's been aware of this for awhile. Another person said Pickens has been on the trade market all off-season, that Dallas was only offering a 4th before the draft and finally upped their offer. How much he cares about having Pickens or did not want him I don't know, but I don't think he was caught off guard.
What I should have have added was the Steelers aren't a destination team anymore. They have to over pay guys. But your right it's not my money why should I care.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
The problem I'm having is that getting rid of one of your best playmakers, flawed or not, is not seemingly compatible with the idea of a win-now move like snagging Rodgers. I don't see a world where this makes them better in 2025, and I also have a hard time believing they see it either. Just thoughts not making any statement here. For my Metcalf shares sake I definitely want him there.He could be, really, I don't know because I'm not there. All I know is his professionalism needs some work with stuff like being on time and he allows his emotions to get the better of him. Some of that stuff could be said about Metcalf as well IMO with his on field lack of composure.I'm still betting he will sign there, I'm just saying that was my first reaction.I would put this thought aside.Not a Steelers fan and not plugged into them but this is exactly the first and most obvious takeaway that occurred to me.Conspiracy theory: they know Aaron Rodgers is going to retire and have decided to punt on the 2025 season
Does having less offensive weapons entice Rodgers more? Is Lazard available? IDK be careful what you wish for Rodgers really is a POS. They should have just signed Fields FFS.
Rodgers has apparently known what's up for awhile which is why he's had throwing sessions with Metcalf only.
It's also possible that GP is the headcase he has been labelled as and Rodgers didn't want that. For all I know Rodgers was the impetus to move Pickens.
But I got on NFLN right now and not sure who the ex-player is talking but he was just saying he thinks Pickens character stuff is way overblown, that he's just passionate and he understands how frustrated he would be with the collection of sub-standard QB's he's had to play with. That's pretty much how I've seen it. I've just thought of him as an immature guy who has lacks professionalism more then a bad egg.
Regarding Rodgers. Can't recall which beat writer I read earlier today but they said he's been aware of this for awhile. Another person said Pickens has been on the trade market all off-season, that Dallas was only offering a 4th before the draft and finally upped their offer. How much he cares about having Pickens or did not want him I don't know, but I don't think he was caught off guard.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Unless there are more moves to make I mean it is only the first week of May...
FarFromHome
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U obviously havent been following the Allen Lazard news. Ha haThe problem I'm having is that getting rid of one of your best playmakers, flawed or not, is not seemingly compatible with the idea of a win-now move like snagging Rodgers. I don't see a world where this makes them better in 2025, and I also have a hard time believing they see it either. Just thoughts not making any statement here. For my Metcalf shares sake I definitely want him there.He could be, really, I don't know because I'm not there. All I know is his professionalism needs some work with stuff like being on time and he allows his emotions to get the better of him. Some of that stuff could be said about Metcalf as well IMO with his on field lack of composure.I'm still betting he will sign there, I'm just saying that was my first reaction.I would put this thought aside.Not a Steelers fan and not plugged into them but this is exactly the first and most obvious takeaway that occurred to me.Conspiracy theory: they know Aaron Rodgers is going to retire and have decided to punt on the 2025 season
Does having less offensive weapons entice Rodgers more? Is Lazard available? IDK be careful what you wish for Rodgers really is a POS. They should have just signed Fields FFS.
Rodgers has apparently known what's up for awhile which is why he's had throwing sessions with Metcalf only.
It's also possible that GP is the headcase he has been labelled as and Rodgers didn't want that. For all I know Rodgers was the impetus to move Pickens.
But I got on NFLN right now and not sure who the ex-player is talking but he was just saying he thinks Pickens character stuff is way overblown, that he's just passionate and he understands how frustrated he would be with the collection of sub-standard QB's he's had to play with. That's pretty much how I've seen it. I've just thought of him as an immature guy who has lacks professionalism more then a bad egg.
Regarding Rodgers. Can't recall which beat writer I read earlier today but they said he's been aware of this for awhile. Another person said Pickens has been on the trade market all off-season, that Dallas was only offering a 4th before the draft and finally upped their offer. How much he cares about having Pickens or did not want him I don't know, but I don't think he was caught off guard.
I don't either and would put it this way. Last year they were in on about every single WR who was available. Desperate. IMO they are now in the same positoin they were in last year.
This is more likely to me then collecting ammo to move up for a QB next year. Based on expected 2026 comp picks they now have 3 thirds and 2 4ths plus an extra 6th. That got a lot of capital to get a one year rental type they might view as working better in the context of the offense.....or someone Rodgers prefers.
They 100% should have stuck with Fields and never benched him in the 1st place.Not a Steelers fan and not plugged into them but this is exactly the first and most obvious takeaway that occurred to me.Conspiracy theory: they know Aaron Rodgers is going to retire and have decided to punt on the 2025 season
Does having less offensive weapons entice Rodgers more? Is Lazard available? IDK be careful what you wish for Rodgers really is a POS. They should have just signed Fields FFS.
I feel like DK is better than Pickens, but not by a ton. DK is pretty overrated in my opinion. I think he's a very good #2 WR, but he's never shown the route running or versatility to be a true #1. JSN passed him last year, and Lockett was more of a 1B than a #2 for most of the Seattle run. Pickens is also a #2 WR in my eyes, the exact role he'll fill in Dallas, where he'll likely be more successful. I have never understood why DK/Pickens couldn't co-exist as an idea. The overlapping skillset stuff is silly, that's just saying "our play caller has no creativity"
Its been a really bad and confusing offseason for the Steelers. This is a bottom 3 offense in the NFL right now, and that's assuming Rodgers comes to town, its easily the worst if its Rudolph starting. This is still an excellent defense, and its also an older team, punting the 2025 season is absolutely asinine.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
But.. I have. Does he push them over the top? He makes them a SB team? Is that the obvious take?U obviously havent been following the Allen Lazard news. Ha haThe problem I'm having is that getting rid of one of your best playmakers, flawed or not, is not seemingly compatible with the idea of a win-now move like snagging Rodgers. I don't see a world where this makes them better in 2025, and I also have a hard time believing they see it either. Just thoughts not making any statement here. For my Metcalf shares sake I definitely want him there.He could be, really, I don't know because I'm not there. All I know is his professionalism needs some work with stuff like being on time and he allows his emotions to get the better of him. Some of that stuff could be said about Metcalf as well IMO with his on field lack of composure.I'm still betting he will sign there, I'm just saying that was my first reaction.I would put this thought aside.Not a Steelers fan and not plugged into them but this is exactly the first and most obvious takeaway that occurred to me.Conspiracy theory: they know Aaron Rodgers is going to retire and have decided to punt on the 2025 season
Does having less offensive weapons entice Rodgers more? Is Lazard available? IDK be careful what you wish for Rodgers really is a POS. They should have just signed Fields FFS.
Rodgers has apparently known what's up for awhile which is why he's had throwing sessions with Metcalf only.
It's also possible that GP is the headcase he has been labelled as and Rodgers didn't want that. For all I know Rodgers was the impetus to move Pickens.
But I got on NFLN right now and not sure who the ex-player is talking but he was just saying he thinks Pickens character stuff is way overblown, that he's just passionate and he understands how frustrated he would be with the collection of sub-standard QB's he's had to play with. That's pretty much how I've seen it. I've just thought of him as an immature guy who has lacks professionalism more then a bad egg.
Regarding Rodgers. Can't recall which beat writer I read earlier today but they said he's been aware of this for awhile. Another person said Pickens has been on the trade market all off-season, that Dallas was only offering a 4th before the draft and finally upped their offer. How much he cares about having Pickens or did not want him I don't know, but I don't think he was caught off guard.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
He doesn't move the bar and inch. It was my attempt at agreeing with u using humor. I always find it amusing when we try to justify getting rid of really good players. Losing Pickens hurts. We just don't know how much yet.But.. I have. Does he push them over the top? He makes them a SB team? Is that the obvious take?U obviously havent been following the Allen Lazard news. Ha haThe problem I'm having is that getting rid of one of your best playmakers, flawed or not, is not seemingly compatible with the idea of a win-now move like snagging Rodgers. I don't see a world where this makes them better in 2025, and I also have a hard time believing they see it either. Just thoughts not making any statement here. For my Metcalf shares sake I definitely want him there.He could be, really, I don't know because I'm not there. All I know is his professionalism needs some work with stuff like being on time and he allows his emotions to get the better of him. Some of that stuff could be said about Metcalf as well IMO with his on field lack of composure.I'm still betting he will sign there, I'm just saying that was my first reaction.I would put this thought aside.Not a Steelers fan and not plugged into them but this is exactly the first and most obvious takeaway that occurred to me.Conspiracy theory: they know Aaron Rodgers is going to retire and have decided to punt on the 2025 season
Does having less offensive weapons entice Rodgers more? Is Lazard available? IDK be careful what you wish for Rodgers really is a POS. They should have just signed Fields FFS.
Rodgers has apparently known what's up for awhile which is why he's had throwing sessions with Metcalf only.
It's also possible that GP is the headcase he has been labelled as and Rodgers didn't want that. For all I know Rodgers was the impetus to move Pickens.
But I got on NFLN right now and not sure who the ex-player is talking but he was just saying he thinks Pickens character stuff is way overblown, that he's just passionate and he understands how frustrated he would be with the collection of sub-standard QB's he's had to play with. That's pretty much how I've seen it. I've just thought of him as an immature guy who has lacks professionalism more then a bad egg.
Regarding Rodgers. Can't recall which beat writer I read earlier today but they said he's been aware of this for awhile. Another person said Pickens has been on the trade market all off-season, that Dallas was only offering a 4th before the draft and finally upped their offer. How much he cares about having Pickens or did not want him I don't know, but I don't think he was caught off guard.
Aaron Rodgers was very fond of Romeo Doubs when they were together.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Thing about Metcalf being overrated is that Geno Smith doesn't throw to people until he sees them open, in which case it's too late. And Metcalf doesn't need to be open to catch it, though I have long thought his contested catch skill is his most glaring weakness. Russell Wilson only played with Metcalf 3 seasons and the 3rd one Wilson broke his finger in early October.They 100% should have stuck with Fields and never benched him in the 1st place.Not a Steelers fan and not plugged into them but this is exactly the first and most obvious takeaway that occurred to me.Conspiracy theory: they know Aaron Rodgers is going to retire and have decided to punt on the 2025 season
Does having less offensive weapons entice Rodgers more? Is Lazard available? IDK be careful what you wish for Rodgers really is a POS. They should have just signed Fields FFS.
I feel like DK is better than Pickens, but not by a ton. DK is pretty overrated in my opinion. I think he's a very good #2 WR, but he's never shown the route running or versatility to be a true #1. JSN passed him last year, and Lockett was more of a 1B than a #2 for most of the Seattle run. Pickens is also a #2 WR in my eyes, the exact role he'll fill in Dallas, where he'll likely be more successful. I have never understood why DK/Pickens couldn't co-exist as an idea. The overlapping skillset stuff is silly, that's just saying "our play caller has no creativity"
Its been a really bad and confusing offseason for the Steelers. This is a bottom 3 offense in the NFL right now, and that's assuming Rodgers comes to town, its easily the worst if its Rudolph starting. This is still an excellent defense, and its also an older team, punting the 2025 season is absolutely asinine.
Point is I'd like to see present-day Metcalf and not rookie year or year 2 Metcalf paired with a QB that isn't afraid to throw into tight quarters and who can hit the wings off a fly from 60 yards. I think Metcalf easily gets 3-5 more targets per game with Rodgers but then counterpoint is Arthur Smith. But who else is he going to throw to now?
barackdhouse
Footballguy
ok now I'm getting aroused
fatness
Footballguy
Todd Archer
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Trade terms: The Cowboys gave up a 2026 third round pick and a 2027 fifth rounder to the Steelers for George Pickens and a 2027 sixth rounder, according to a source.
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Trade terms: The Cowboys gave up a 2026 third round pick and a 2027 fifth rounder to the Steelers for George Pickens and a 2027 sixth rounder, according to a source.
Grid71
Footballguy
More likely Omar quietly worked to move him because the Steelers didn’t want to sign him to a large contract. Doesn’t fit in with future plans.I'm still betting he will sign there, I'm just saying that was my first reaction.I would put this thought aside.Not a Steelers fan and not plugged into them but this is exactly the first and most obvious takeaway that occurred to me.Conspiracy theory: they know Aaron Rodgers is going to retire and have decided to punt on the 2025 season
Does having less offensive weapons entice Rodgers more? Is Lazard available? IDK be careful what you wish for Rodgers really is a POS. They should have just signed Fields FFS.
Rodgers has apparently known what's up for awhile which is why he's had throwing sessions with Metcalf only.
It's also possible that GP is the headcase he has been labelled as and Rodgers didn't want that. For all I know Rodgers was the impetus to move Pickens.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
and Rodgers does? rhetorical question but it just seems strange.Doesn’t fit in with future plans.I'm still betting he will sign there, I'm just saying that was my first reaction.I would put this thought aside.Not a Steelers fan and not plugged into them but this is exactly the first and most obvious takeaway that occurred to me.Conspiracy theory: they know Aaron Rodgers is going to retire and have decided to punt on the 2025 season
Does having less offensive weapons entice Rodgers more? Is Lazard available? IDK be careful what you wish for Rodgers really is a POS. They should have just signed Fields FFS.
Rodgers has apparently known what's up for awhile which is why he's had throwing sessions with Metcalf only.
It's also possible that GP is the headcase he has been labelled as and Rodgers didn't want that. For all I know Rodgers was the impetus to move Pickens.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Hes got a weird way if showing it. So passionate he quits on plays when he knows the ball isnt coming his way?
He has talent. Not arguing that. Im not that upset they moved him tho. He's basically a man-baby.
Wont shock me at all if he mopes his way out of money in Big D cuz he has CeeDee hogging the target share. Wont shock me if he blows up either, but "meh."
Yep, highly passionate and with that frustration when you are relying on sorry QB's in an Arthur Smith offense to get you the ball while your team keeps trying to throw the bag at other WR's.
Ton's of WR's don't run routes at full speed when they know they are not getting the ball and a lot of times fan's don't even understand the spacing of the play calls for them to ease up on their routes. This is all meh to me.
steelcityman
Footballguy
thats wrong as well, there are 32 teams, they are all destination teams. They all have $ to spend up to the cap. They all overpay free agents.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I think some teams are more attractive to players than others (whether that is winning/culture, weather/location, taxes, or some combination) but the majority of the decision for most free agents still boils down to money.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
I've always thought DK was overrated, and has never improved his craft as a WR since his second season. He's actually regressed vs man and zone coverages and his reception perception profile clearly shows it. Dude is still dangerous on slants and go routes, but the rest of his route tree is average at best. As for his contested catch rate,
He's still a strong X type WR, but not amongst the top tiered X guys out there. They overpayed for what he will produce, but that's what happens in today's market.
He's still a strong X type WR, but not amongst the top tiered X guys out there. They overpayed for what he will produce, but that's what happens in today's market.
3C's
Footballguy
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Allen Lazard is in play for the Steelers
Rodgers could be getting part of the band back together.
www.nbcsports.com
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Per PFF… Most penalized WRs last year - #1 DK Metcalf #2 C. Lamb #3 G. Pickens #4 A Lazard
I guess the stars have aligned for Lazard to be a Steeler.
I guess the stars have aligned for Lazard to be a Steeler.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Sure why not bring the entire Rodgers circus to town. Call Cobb and see what he's up to.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
100% agree.
Has a number of off-the-field issues - he was suspended for violating team rules and has been ejected for punching another player. He has been called undisciplined by his own head coach - likely scare a number of NFL teams off
Pickens was an obvious first round talent in 2022 who fell to the 2nd round, and it was for a reason. Part of it was assuredly medical concerns about the ACL, but you had to be blind to miss just about every scouting report also talking about his attitude issues, both on and off the field. This isn't something that should be waived off as a "well the Steelers sucked so that's why" thing. First off, that's bs in my eyes. An entire locker room of players on that team were able to cope with the crap situation they were all in together and not resort to punching opposing players in the helmet like morons, let alone at least a dozen instances on tape of him in real games of completely giving up on plays. A lot of those plays where he was supposed to be blocking and his intentional quitting on those plays could have easily resulted in a teammate being injured. Kinda gross to make excuses for that IMO. I said the same exact thing about DJ Moore quitting on his team a week or two ago in his thread, and would be remiss if I didn't hold the team I root for and it's players to the same standard.
And secondly, like I posted a link for, there is a clear history of him and his childish antics from long before he ever was a Steeler. He always came off like a nut bag and starting with him on draft night I already had my concerns...
Open to the fact others have different opinions, and not saying mine is more/less right than others, but I have a hard time rooting for a team and enjoying watching them play with people like that on the team. His talent is undeniable, but I'd rather us be worse without him than better with him from my own personal enjoyment as a fan standpoint. YMMV.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I think the NFL wants Rodgers in Pittsburgh . . . .
Grid71
Footballguy
Funny way to spell Arch Manning….
McBokonon
Footballguy
Schedule leaks are starting to come in. I follow this account to see them, has been reliable.
I've started a tradition recently where I go to one road game - so far I've been focused on teams we might not really play every year. Then I add a few days around the game itself and check out the city. So far, it's been Green Bay, Seattle, and Denver. This season, my early targets (depending on when they happen) are Chicago and Detroit. Looks like Detroit will be week 16 (12/21). That sounds cold! But I think it would be a ton of fun even if we likely get massacred.
At the Jets week 1. if that were a different week, I'd add it to my short list. Still might. Other than the Ireland game, these are the only three leaks I see. Looking forward to the Chicago date - would love to visit the city.
ETA: There's other leaks, I just meant the road games I'd consider. We have home against Seattle week 2, at Cincy week 7, home vs. Buffalo week 14 also leaked.
I've started a tradition recently where I go to one road game - so far I've been focused on teams we might not really play every year. Then I add a few days around the game itself and check out the city. So far, it's been Green Bay, Seattle, and Denver. This season, my early targets (depending on when they happen) are Chicago and Detroit. Looks like Detroit will be week 16 (12/21). That sounds cold! But I think it would be a ton of fun even if we likely get massacred.
At the Jets week 1. if that were a different week, I'd add it to my short list. Still might. Other than the Ireland game, these are the only three leaks I see. Looking forward to the Chicago date - would love to visit the city.
ETA: There's other leaks, I just meant the road games I'd consider. We have home against Seattle week 2, at Cincy week 7, home vs. Buffalo week 14 also leaked.
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Was referring to the now leaked Week 1 game. Two swapped QBs going against each other, NFL knows nothing, right?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Certainly seems like it or maybe they like the Fields vs Steelers aspect and if Rodgers signs eit is an added bonus
Grid71
Footballguy
Great choice. Ben Johnson should have his offense clicking by week 12. Good matchup. Fall weather is perfect for football.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Steelers better get off to a good start cause starting week 10 the schedule gets much more difficult.
McBokonon
Footballguy
I’m already set. Used points for the flight and hotel in the theater district and got my ticket. Visitor side, 200 level. Looking forward! Hoping there’s a Bulls or Blackhawks game, too, but there’s so much going on there I’ll be fine no matter what.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Maybe they were having difficulty finding a Derby hat?
Aaron Rodgers and his cryptic updates always keeping us guessing. One minute, he's talking about deep struggles, the next he's living it up at the Kentucky Derby. Maybe the “difficult stuff” was picking the right hat as 5-ish Finkle mentioned. At this point, I fully expect his next statement to be something like, “Big changes ahead. Some will understand, some won’t.” And then he’s courtside at an NBA game, looking completely unbothered. Classic Rodgers.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
So I had heard a week or two ago that he was in Pittsburgh golfing with Omar. Then I saw something posted recently of an alleged photo of him with a realtor in Mt. Lebo. We shall see.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Sounds familiar. Hate the week 5 bye week.
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