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Ironically, even though it's a smaller point spread, I also kind of like TB @ NOS. Not more than all of the above, but if they're available, I think they're in the same general conversation.
Good call. Tampa has won and covered last 3 in New Orleans
Good info. TB is 3-1 on the road, Saints 1-3 at home. I mean it's not a lock, but none of the games in this conversation are. I can see the possibility that the Saints pull off the upset, but is it really any more likely than CAR, CLE, MIA, CHI or either NY team? I don't know.... I can poke holes in the argument either way on any of those. The Bucs are down some players on offense, but if there's one thing we've seen so far, it's that Mayfield and company seem to find a way to get it done regardless of what weapons are at his disposal. I guess the counter-argument would be that it might not be a "must win" game for them in the sense that they could win their division easily by the time it's all said and done. Of course, there's still plenty to play for, in terms of home field in the playoffs, byes, etc. The other piece would be that it goes against my general "rules" of avoiding road games and/or divisional games.

Bottom line... I'm not saying I'm taking TB, but they're one of a handful of teams I considering.
 
So glad I stuck with PHI and couldn't talk myself into trusting CIN or ATL!!!
Made a last minute switch to Philadelphia myself when I had a hollow feeling in my gut about trusting either ATL or CIN, two of the least trustworthy teams in any type of wagering. “Don’t outsmart yourself,” I tells myself. When you can pick a game with a good team (PHI) playing a bad team (NYG), why on earth would you risk your survivor pool on either the Bengals or the Falcons?
 
Well, I had four survivor lives left going into the week.... One large contest (6K+ contestants), one medium (around 100), and two others smaller ones. As of Saturday night, my plan was to "diversity" and go with IND in the big one, and split between NE/CIN/ATL in the other three (having already mostly used BUF, KC, and BAL).

After reviewing the inactives yesterday morning, decided to pull the plug on ATL (I knew Penix was out, but London on top of that scared me). Then, for some reason, when weighing between NE and CIN, I decided to double down (actually triple down) on CIN, given how many guys were out for the Jets (Wilson, Sauce, etc.). I was driving to a soccer game pre-kickoff, listening to NFL radio on Sirius as they talked about the unfortunate passing of Eric Mangold.... Had a brief thought of "I wonder if that will motivate the Jets?" In hindsight, I probably should have listened a bit more to that thought. Or, more accurately, never should have trusted the CIN defense to beat anybody. Ugh. Dumb move.

So, CIN burned me in three, but I'm still alive in one last (large) contest, where we started with around 6500 entries, and are now down to 800 and change. Between CIN and ATL, over 500 were knocked out yesterday alone. Should be interesting going forward.
Good luck to those who are still alive and kicking in their various contests. :headbang:
 
Well, turns out LAR was the safe pick this week in my one remaining contest. 513 (roughly 60%) played it safe with the Rams. Of the remaining 842 participants going into the week, 135 of them were knocked out by GB (109) and DET (16). We are down to 707 left.

On to Week 10. Looking at four options....

DEN (-9.5) vs LVR - Biggest point spread of my remaining options. Divisional game gives me slight hesitation, as does the fact that the Raiders looked somewhat competitive last week. In fact, both teams played very close games against relatively similar AFC South opponents. That said, in Denver, I would THINK the Broncos would hold court. Then again, they've been up and down, and seem to play somewhat to the level of the competition at times. Not sure I like any of DEN's remaining games as much as this one (at least right now, on paper), but that's not necessarily the best reason to make a pick. This game is definitely in the conversation.

SEA (-6.5) vs ARI - Another divisional game, which I'm typically not a big fan of taking. ARI looked good last night, albeit against the Cowboys who are Jekyl and Hyde. Meanwhile, SEA looks REALLY good. Ironically, they've looked almost better on the road than at home. Like DEN, I would think SEA would handle this game by around a TD. Am I 100% confident of that? Absolutely not. The NFL, as a whole, seems to zig when you think it's going to zag, and I would not at all be shocked if ARI (who in theory needs this game more) pulls off the upset. Not predicting it, but not discounting the idea either. SEA has one more solid option upcoming, which would be on the road at TEN in two weeks. Other than that, their schedule is pretty stout (next best options would be road games at ATL and CAR).

CAR (-5.5) vs NOS - I actually like this option a lot. CAR looks strong against mediocre/poor teams (3-1 at home with only loss being to BUF), and the Saints just rolled over and played dead against the Rams. Now the Saints travel cross-country for another road game with rookie QB Shough at the helm. Can't see them winning this one, honestly. That said, DEN and SEA are probably stronger teams than CAR, so I'm not 100% sure this makes sense. But, it's definitely in the conversation. And, for what it's worth, CAR doesn't have another really strong option, at least on paper. Next best option is probably when they play the Saints again in Week 15 (but that's in NOS).

CHI (-3.5) vs NYG - Told myself that I would at least take a look at this game, but the more I look at the other three, the more I'm convinced this is the riskiest of the four. CHI is on a roll right now, at least on paper. They've won 5 of their last 6, but three of those five were 25-24 wins against LVR and WAS, respectively, as well as the game that was handed to them by the Cincy defense on Sunday. Feels like a game where four different teams could show up, as both CHI and NYG have been somewhat unpredictable. I like CHI to win (and maybe even cover), but not sure I like them enough to pick them over the other three options above. May want to "save" them for Week 15 vs CLE and play it a bit safer this week.
 
Well, turns out LAR was the safe pick this week in my one remaining contest. 513 (roughly 60%) played it safe with the Rams. Of the remaining 842 participants going into the week, 135 of them were knocked out by GB (109) and DET (16). We are down to 707 left.

On to Week 10. Looking at four options....

DEN (-9.5) vs LVR - Biggest point spread of my remaining options. Divisional game gives me slight hesitation, as does the fact that the Raiders looked somewhat competitive last week. In fact, both teams played very close games against relatively similar AFC South opponents. That said, in Denver, I would THINK the Broncos would hold court. Then again, they've been up and down, and seem to play somewhat to the level of the competition at times. Not sure I like any of DEN's remaining games as much as this one (at least right now, on paper), but that's not necessarily the best reason to make a pick. This game is definitely in the conversation.

SEA (-6.5) vs ARI - Another divisional game, which I'm typically not a big fan of taking. ARI looked good last night, albeit against the Cowboys who are Jekyl and Hyde. Meanwhile, SEA looks REALLY good. Ironically, they've looked almost better on the road than at home. Like DEN, I would think SEA would handle this game by around a TD. Am I 100% confident of that? Absolutely not. The NFL, as a whole, seems to zig when you think it's going to zag, and I would not at all be shocked if ARI (who in theory needs this game more) pulls off the upset. Not predicting it, but not discounting the idea either. SEA has one more solid option upcoming, which would be on the road at TEN in two weeks. Other than that, their schedule is pretty stout (next best options would be road games at ATL and CAR).

CAR (-5.5) vs NOS - I actually like this option a lot. CAR looks strong against mediocre/poor teams (3-1 at home with only loss being to BUF), and the Saints just rolled over and played dead against the Rams. Now the Saints travel cross-country for another road game with rookie QB Shough at the helm. Can't see them winning this one, honestly. That said, DEN and SEA are probably stronger teams than CAR, so I'm not 100% sure this makes sense. But, it's definitely in the conversation. And, for what it's worth, CAR doesn't have another really strong option, at least on paper. Next best option is probably when they play the Saints again in Week 15 (but that's in NOS).

CHI (-3.5) vs NYG - Told myself that I would at least take a look at this game, but the more I look at the other three, the more I'm convinced this is the riskiest of the four. CHI is on a roll right now, at least on paper. They've won 5 of their last 6, but three of those five were 25-24 wins against LVR and WAS, respectively, as well as the game that was handed to them by the Cincy defense on Sunday. Feels like a game where four different teams could show up, as both CHI and NYG have been somewhat unpredictable. I like CHI to win (and maybe even cover), but not sure I like them enough to pick them over the other three options above. May want to "save" them for Week 15 vs CLE and play it a bit safer this week.

I'm leaning DEN as of today. Short week at altitude for LV and they just traded away one of their playmakers.

I cant trust CAR at all.
 
Well, turns out LAR was the safe pick this week in my one remaining contest. 513 (roughly 60%) played it safe with the Rams. Of the remaining 842 participants going into the week, 135 of them were knocked out by GB (109) and DET (16). We are down to 707 left.

On to Week 10. Looking at four options....

DEN (-9.5) vs LVR - Biggest point spread of my remaining options. Divisional game gives me slight hesitation, as does the fact that the Raiders looked somewhat competitive last week. In fact, both teams played very close games against relatively similar AFC South opponents. That said, in Denver, I would THINK the Broncos would hold court. Then again, they've been up and down, and seem to play somewhat to the level of the competition at times. Not sure I like any of DEN's remaining games as much as this one (at least right now, on paper), but that's not necessarily the best reason to make a pick. This game is definitely in the conversation.

SEA (-6.5) vs ARI - Another divisional game, which I'm typically not a big fan of taking. ARI looked good last night, albeit against the Cowboys who are Jekyl and Hyde. Meanwhile, SEA looks REALLY good. Ironically, they've looked almost better on the road than at home. Like DEN, I would think SEA would handle this game by around a TD. Am I 100% confident of that? Absolutely not. The NFL, as a whole, seems to zig when you think it's going to zag, and I would not at all be shocked if ARI (who in theory needs this game more) pulls off the upset. Not predicting it, but not discounting the idea either. SEA has one more solid option upcoming, which would be on the road at TEN in two weeks. Other than that, their schedule is pretty stout (next best options would be road games at ATL and CAR).

CAR (-5.5) vs NOS - I actually like this option a lot. CAR looks strong against mediocre/poor teams (3-1 at home with only loss being to BUF), and the Saints just rolled over and played dead against the Rams. Now the Saints travel cross-country for another road game with rookie QB Shough at the helm. Can't see them winning this one, honestly. That said, DEN and SEA are probably stronger teams than CAR, so I'm not 100% sure this makes sense. But, it's definitely in the conversation. And, for what it's worth, CAR doesn't have another really strong option, at least on paper. Next best option is probably when they play the Saints again in Week 15 (but that's in NOS).

CHI (-3.5) vs NYG - Told myself that I would at least take a look at this game, but the more I look at the other three, the more I'm convinced this is the riskiest of the four. CHI is on a roll right now, at least on paper. They've won 5 of their last 6, but three of those five were 25-24 wins against LVR and WAS, respectively, as well as the game that was handed to them by the Cincy defense on Sunday. Feels like a game where four different teams could show up, as both CHI and NYG have been somewhat unpredictable. I like CHI to win (and maybe even cover), but not sure I like them enough to pick them over the other three options above. May want to "save" them for Week 15 vs CLE and play it a bit safer this week.

I'm leaning DEN as of today. Short week at altitude for LV and they just traded away one of their playmakers.

I cant trust CAR at all.
I had a similar conversation with someone else who said essentially the same thing. DEN seems like the safer play. ARI/SEA scares me a bit, and while I think CAR could be the sneaky play, it could also very well be the play where I'm left asking myself "what was I thinking?" TNF does concern me a bit (those games seem to bring out the ultra-crazy and unpredictable results sometimes), as does it being a divisional game. And, I don't think Pete Carroll will allow his team to lay down and quit like a couple of other teams might be doing. That said, it really does seem like the short week favors DEN more than it would help LVR. As of right now, I have DEN penciled in.
 
Well, turns out LAR was the safe pick this week in my one remaining contest. 513 (roughly 60%) played it safe with the Rams. Of the remaining 842 participants going into the week, 135 of them were knocked out by GB (109) and DET (16). We are down to 707 left.

On to Week 10. Looking at four options....

DEN (-9.5) vs LVR - Biggest point spread of my remaining options. Divisional game gives me slight hesitation, as does the fact that the Raiders looked somewhat competitive last week. In fact, both teams played very close games against relatively similar AFC South opponents. That said, in Denver, I would THINK the Broncos would hold court. Then again, they've been up and down, and seem to play somewhat to the level of the competition at times. Not sure I like any of DEN's remaining games as much as this one (at least right now, on paper), but that's not necessarily the best reason to make a pick. This game is definitely in the conversation.

SEA (-6.5) vs ARI - Another divisional game, which I'm typically not a big fan of taking. ARI looked good last night, albeit against the Cowboys who are Jekyl and Hyde. Meanwhile, SEA looks REALLY good. Ironically, they've looked almost better on the road than at home. Like DEN, I would think SEA would handle this game by around a TD. Am I 100% confident of that? Absolutely not. The NFL, as a whole, seems to zig when you think it's going to zag, and I would not at all be shocked if ARI (who in theory needs this game more) pulls off the upset. Not predicting it, but not discounting the idea either. SEA has one more solid option upcoming, which would be on the road at TEN in two weeks. Other than that, their schedule is pretty stout (next best options would be road games at ATL and CAR).

CAR (-5.5) vs NOS - I actually like this option a lot. CAR looks strong against mediocre/poor teams (3-1 at home with only loss being to BUF), and the Saints just rolled over and played dead against the Rams. Now the Saints travel cross-country for another road game with rookie QB Shough at the helm. Can't see them winning this one, honestly. That said, DEN and SEA are probably stronger teams than CAR, so I'm not 100% sure this makes sense. But, it's definitely in the conversation. And, for what it's worth, CAR doesn't have another really strong option, at least on paper. Next best option is probably when they play the Saints again in Week 15 (but that's in NOS).

CHI (-3.5) vs NYG - Told myself that I would at least take a look at this game, but the more I look at the other three, the more I'm convinced this is the riskiest of the four. CHI is on a roll right now, at least on paper. They've won 5 of their last 6, but three of those five were 25-24 wins against LVR and WAS, respectively, as well as the game that was handed to them by the Cincy defense on Sunday. Feels like a game where four different teams could show up, as both CHI and NYG have been somewhat unpredictable. I like CHI to win (and maybe even cover), but not sure I like them enough to pick them over the other three options above. May want to "save" them for Week 15 vs CLE and play it a bit safer this week.

I'm leaning DEN as of today. Short week at altitude for LV and they just traded away one of their playmakers.

I cant trust CAR at all.
I had a similar conversation with someone else who said essentially the same thing. DEN seems like the safer play. ARI/SEA scares me a bit, and while I think CAR could be the sneaky play, it could also very well be the play where I'm left asking myself "what was I thinking?" TNF does concern me a bit (those games seem to bring out the ultra-crazy and unpredictable results sometimes), as does it being a divisional game. And, I don't think Pete Carroll will allow his team to lay down and quit like a couple of other teams might be doing. That said, it really does seem like the short week favors DEN more than it would help LVR. As of right now, I have DEN penciled in.

I think I read somewhere that the notion of divisional games being crazy in terms of results is a bit of a myth. Need to try and find it.
 
Well, turns out LAR was the safe pick this week in my one remaining contest. 513 (roughly 60%) played it safe with the Rams. Of the remaining 842 participants going into the week, 135 of them were knocked out by GB (109) and DET (16). We are down to 707 left.

On to Week 10. Looking at four options....

DEN (-9.5) vs LVR - Biggest point spread of my remaining options. Divisional game gives me slight hesitation, as does the fact that the Raiders looked somewhat competitive last week. In fact, both teams played very close games against relatively similar AFC South opponents. That said, in Denver, I would THINK the Broncos would hold court. Then again, they've been up and down, and seem to play somewhat to the level of the competition at times. Not sure I like any of DEN's remaining games as much as this one (at least right now, on paper), but that's not necessarily the best reason to make a pick. This game is definitely in the conversation.

SEA (-6.5) vs ARI - Another divisional game, which I'm typically not a big fan of taking. ARI looked good last night, albeit against the Cowboys who are Jekyl and Hyde. Meanwhile, SEA looks REALLY good. Ironically, they've looked almost better on the road than at home. Like DEN, I would think SEA would handle this game by around a TD. Am I 100% confident of that? Absolutely not. The NFL, as a whole, seems to zig when you think it's going to zag, and I would not at all be shocked if ARI (who in theory needs this game more) pulls off the upset. Not predicting it, but not discounting the idea either. SEA has one more solid option upcoming, which would be on the road at TEN in two weeks. Other than that, their schedule is pretty stout (next best options would be road games at ATL and CAR).

CAR (-5.5) vs NOS - I actually like this option a lot. CAR looks strong against mediocre/poor teams (3-1 at home with only loss being to BUF), and the Saints just rolled over and played dead against the Rams. Now the Saints travel cross-country for another road game with rookie QB Shough at the helm. Can't see them winning this one, honestly. That said, DEN and SEA are probably stronger teams than CAR, so I'm not 100% sure this makes sense. But, it's definitely in the conversation. And, for what it's worth, CAR doesn't have another really strong option, at least on paper. Next best option is probably when they play the Saints again in Week 15 (but that's in NOS).

CHI (-3.5) vs NYG - Told myself that I would at least take a look at this game, but the more I look at the other three, the more I'm convinced this is the riskiest of the four. CHI is on a roll right now, at least on paper. They've won 5 of their last 6, but three of those five were 25-24 wins against LVR and WAS, respectively, as well as the game that was handed to them by the Cincy defense on Sunday. Feels like a game where four different teams could show up, as both CHI and NYG have been somewhat unpredictable. I like CHI to win (and maybe even cover), but not sure I like them enough to pick them over the other three options above. May want to "save" them for Week 15 vs CLE and play it a bit safer this week.

I'm leaning DEN as of today. Short week at altitude for LV and they just traded away one of their playmakers.

I cant trust CAR at all.
I had a similar conversation with someone else who said essentially the same thing. DEN seems like the safer play. ARI/SEA scares me a bit, and while I think CAR could be the sneaky play, it could also very well be the play where I'm left asking myself "what was I thinking?" TNF does concern me a bit (those games seem to bring out the ultra-crazy and unpredictable results sometimes), as does it being a divisional game. And, I don't think Pete Carroll will allow his team to lay down and quit like a couple of other teams might be doing. That said, it really does seem like the short week favors DEN more than it would help LVR. As of right now, I have DEN penciled in.

I think I read somewhere that the notion of divisional games being crazy in terms of results is a bit of a myth. Need to try and find it.
I feel like the TNF games can be a bit crazy/unpredictable. Then again, that might be the NFL in general. And it might be just me confusing TNF games with the London games, which I feel definitely can be surprising. For a few years, I remember thinking the TNF games were just downright boring (and part of that was the NFL insisting that all 32 teams play once on TNF, which created some "meh" matchups).

Divisional games just cause me for slight concern because the teams know each other so well. And, that might come from me being a MIN fan... LOL. Even in years where MIN has been REALLY good and CHI or DET was really bad, I've always felt that anybody within the NFC North can beat anybody in any given week. At least when it comes to MIN games.

Anyway, not saying at all that I would never pick a divisional game or anything. It's moreso just something I make note of. If I come down to 2-3 games I'm looking at, I have a few "tie-breakers" that I'll consider. First and foremost, I'd rather take a home team over a road team, obviously. Not saying I'll never take a road team, but if it's close, I'll lean towards the team at home. Same thing with the divisional matchups... If there are two heavy favorites that I'm considering, I might lean ever so slightly towards the non-divisional one over the divisional game. Not always, but possibly. And, yeah, I don't have any statistics to back it up. More of a gut feeling in some games. And, it might not be every division every year, necessarily. This year, the AFC North feels like anybody can beat anybody. I have no faith in any of them against each other. Maybe when BAL gets going again, but for the first half of the season, no way.
 
The only two options I really have are CAR and I still have DET. I still have CHI but no way I'm trusting that game. And I can't really trust CAR, less in a divisional game.

So it's DET for me.
 
Well, guessing not too many people have a team from tonight's game, so moving on to Week 11. Glad I went with DEN (although I had to sweat it out on TNF) over CAR, and also saved SEA for later potentially.

Looking at NE this week as they host the Jets, which is another Thursday game....
 
Well, guessing not too many people have a team from tonight's game, so moving on to Week 11. Glad I went with DEN (although I had to sweat it out on TNF) over CAR, and also saved SEA for later potentially.

Looking at NE this week as they host the Jets, which is another Thursday game....

Solid choice, imo. I don't see how the Jets beat N.E. They matchup horribly. The Patriots will give up plays through the air but Fields can't even throw for 50 yards total without his RB scampering for a 43 yard TD dump off. The Jets typically can run the ball but nobody, including much better competition, has yet to be able to run the ball on them. Sooo... Pick 'em if you got 'em.
 
Well, guessing not too many people have a team from tonight's game, so moving on to Week 11. Glad I went with DEN (although I had to sweat it out on TNF) over CAR, and also saved SEA for later potentially.

Looking at NE this week as they host the Jets, which is another Thursday game....
I think you have to go NE. Only other options are BAL and GB both on the road.

I'm not at all confident in NE though. The Jets have put up 39 and 27 points the last 2 weeks.
 
Well, guessing not too many people have a team from tonight's game, so moving on to Week 11. Glad I went with DEN (although I had to sweat it out on TNF) over CAR, and also saved SEA for later potentially.

Looking at NE this week as they host the Jets, which is another Thursday game....

Solid choice, imo. I don't see how the Jets beat N.E. They matchup horribly. The Patriots will give up plays through the air but Fields can't even throw for 50 yards total without his RB scampering for a 43 yard TD dump off. The Jets typically can run the ball but nobody, including much better competition, has yet to be able to run the ball on them. Sooo... Pick 'em if you got 'em.

Well, guessing not too many people have a team from tonight's game, so moving on to Week 11. Glad I went with DEN (although I had to sweat it out on TNF) over CAR, and also saved SEA for later potentially.

Looking at NE this week as they host the Jets, which is another Thursday game....
I think you have to go NE. Only other options are BAL and GB both on the road.

I'm not at all confident in NE though. The Jets have put up 39 and 27 points the last 2 weeks.
Yeah, I've already used PHI, BAL, TB, BUF, DET, GB, KC, IND, LAR, and DEN. Thinking NE for Week 11 (really not much else to choose from), and VERY LIGHTLY penciling in the following (tentatively).....

Week 12: SEA (@ TEN) - Also in consideration.... SF vs CAR (on MNF), but that doesn't seem like anything close to a lock.
Week 13: LAC (vs LVR) - Other options.... SF @ CLE, MIA vs NOS, NE vs NYG (if I were to somehow not use them this week).

If I'm fortunate enough to make it to Week 14, that's when things get extremely uncomfortable. I would potentially be looking at CLE vs TEN, MIA @ NYJ (or vice versa), or maybe MIN vs WAS (wouldn't touch that one unless MIN trends positively the next couple of weeks and WAS continues to falter). But, given the options, it could be in the conversation.

Week 15: SF vs TEN looks like the top choice. Several other possible options .... CHI vs CLE, JAC vs NYJ, HOU vs ARI, PIT vs MIA.
Week 16: HOU vs LVR - Obviously, that's a month and a half away, so a lot could change. Nothing else stands out right now on paper. Other games in the mix (could go either direction on any of them, depending on what happens between now and then).... NYG vs MIN, NOS vs NYJ, ARI vs ATL, MIA vs CIN.

Already getting WAY ahead of myself, so not even going to look at Weeks 17 or 18. For what it's worth, this contest (which started with 6410 entries) is down to 434 left. This week put a pretty good dent in the total, knocking out 267 (CAR 204, BUF 62, CLE 3, TB 1, and JAC 1). Once this week wraps up, I'll be able to view the Week 11 availability report (how many of those 434 have each team available). For what it's worth, 369 out of 707 (just over half) had NE available going into this week, 487 (69%) had BAL, and 179 (25%) had GB. Those numbers will undoubtedly go down, given that it includes teams eliminated this week. Should be another interesting (and nerve-wracking) week....
 
I've been saving NE for this week, so going with them. Everyone left in my pool but one person still has them available, so I'm assuming that will be everyone's pick.
 
Well, guessing not too many people have a team from tonight's game, so moving on to Week 11. Glad I went with DEN (although I had to sweat it out on TNF) over CAR, and also saved SEA for later potentially.

Looking at NE this week as they host the Jets, which is another Thursday game....
I think you have to go NE. Only other options are BAL and GB both on the road.

I'm not at all confident in NE though. The Jets have put up 39 and 27 points the last 2 weeks.

I'm pretty confident that NE isn't gonna give up two special team TDs though and the other game was against Cincy and we all know what that D is about.
 
Yeah, it's really hard to imagine the Patriots, with the #1 seed and HFA throughout the playoffs potentially on the line, losing to the Jets at home. Talk about having something to play for.... That would be an epic failure of massive proportions.

That said, it is the NFL, and literally anybody can win or lose on any given week (especially if they look past an opponent). They're all professionals and Aaron Glenn doesn't seem like the kind of guy who is going to allow his team to just throw in the towel. They'll likely be playing for his job, and many of them THEIR jobs, in terms of the effort they put forth. All I can hope is that Vrabel has the Pats prepared with that same "everything is on the line" mentality.

Not saying at all that Week 11 will determine whether Aaron Glenn keeps his job. But, sometimes, in situations like the Jets are in, how teams play for a particular coach the last half/third of the season goes a long ways in determining whether said coach sticks around or not. In other words, while management/ownership may be fine with the end result being a high draft pick, there are different ways to get to that end result. Putting up a solid fight is much different than not, and a lot of that comes down to coaching. That's why teams like NYJ, CLE, NOS, etc. tend to scare me this time of year. There's desperation mode in terms of trying to make the playoffs, and there's also desperation mode in terms of trying to save your job, your coach's job, etc.
 

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