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as a Steeler fan I'd hate to see slide down 37 spots at this point
And for a 4thas a Steeler fan I'd hate to see slide down 37 spots at this point
I question it myself. The 2nd in 2010 is nice, but I think there are some players worth targetting here that fill needs.as a Steeler fan I'd hate to see slide down 37 spots at this point
2.24 - The Miami Dolphins select.... Max Unger - C - Oregon
The Dolphins only have one center on the roster, Jake Grove, and he's spent 30% of his career injured. They also don't have much depth at guard. One starter, Justin Smiley has went on IR the last 2 seasons. 6th round pick, Donald Thomas, earned a starting spot but was hurt before we could see if he's the answer at RG. 4th round pick Shawn Muphy wasn't good enough to get to play even with all of the injuries. Tackle depth isn't looking good either.
Unger is the most versatile lineman in the draft. Unger can compete to start at RG with Thomas. He'll also provide depth at LG, C and RT if needed, freeing up a spot on game days for another position.
Didn't really expect 2 of my first 3 picks to be on the offensive side of the ball, but that's where the value was.
The way I see it is:We trade our #32 2nd round pick.We are left with this:1st - Alex Mack - C/G3rd (3.32)4th (4.1) - From Dallas (via Detroit)4th (4.32)5th (5.32)5th (5.33) - Compensatory6th (6.32)7th (7.17) - From Tampa Bay7th (7.32)Next Year we have this:1st (1.x)2nd (2.x)2nd (2.x)3rd,4th,5th,6th,7th (x.x)-------------------------------With 21 out of 22 starters returning, the need for players is reduced, and instead we can look towards next year, when we know EXACTLY what positions we need (with alot of players going to leave via FA). With this draft being deep in what we need DE, OT, and CB, we can afford to give up this years 2nd to pick up a 2nd. We still have alot of picks to go here, and there really isnt an "immediate" need to pick up a starter, so we can afford to be risky with our picks.I question it myself. The 2nd in 2010 is nice, but I think there are some players worth targetting here that fill needs.as a Steeler fan I'd hate to see slide down 37 spots at this point
Based upon last year's A. Green's widely anticipated lack of health and/or performance, the Texans needed somebody for their goal-line package, as well as to spell Slaton who started to show signs of wear as the season played out the last 1/4 of the schedule. Brown has simply to get over his slight penchant for taking "injury resulting hits", and he'll be a major contributor right off the bat. He has very nice speed, good at catching and gaining yards out of the backfield, a great work ethic, and brings no additional baggage - in this day and age a very big asset to have in one's portfolio.Some people might consider this a little reach, but it isn't a big one. It would have been a gamble to select either Smith CB, Utah {just noticed that he went to Dallas @ 2.24} or Chung S, Oregon at this pick and then A. Brown a few picks later - however, one has to ask themselves "which position(s) are deeper at this point in time, and which position would be able to make a greater impact at this point in time since the Texans are going to make the playoffs for the first time in their not-so-storied history to date".Comments are always welcome!lexus sent me his pick via PM:2.20 Houston selects Andre Brown, RB North Carolina State
Indy was really hoping he would fall...Based upon last year's A. Green's widely anticipated lack of health and/or performance, the Texans needed somebody for their goal-line package, as well as to spell Slaton who started to show signs of wear as the season played out the last 1/4 of the schedule. Brown has simply to get over his slight penchant for taking "injury resulting hits", and he'll be a major contributor right off the bat. He has very nice speed, good at catching and gaining yards out of the backfield, a great work ethic, and brings no additional baggage - in this day and age a very big asset to have in one's portfolio.Some people might consider this a little reach, but it isn't a big one. It would have been a gamble to select either Smith CB, Utah or Chung S, Oregon at this pick and then A. Brown a few picks later - however, one has to ask themselves "which position(s) are deeper at this point in time, and which position would be able to make a greater impact at this point in time since the Texans are going to make the playoffs for the first time in their not-so-storied history to date".Comments are always welcome!lexus sent me his pick via PM:2.20 Houston selects Andre Brown, RB North Carolina State
DJ was the other guy I was considering at the Eagles pick.2.26 DJ Moore, CB, VanderbiltI had a tough time choosing between Rashad Johnson and Moore. Ultimately I went with the player that seems to have the most upside for his position. Also, Johnson is too similar to Merriweather to go in that direction.
I thought about the guy you had lined up but I have some reservations about him and I think that the 3rd round hold some comparable value at the same position. I think White will be a major playmaker who can line up all over the field and create problems for opposing defenses. Pat White and Peyton Manning on the field togetherMy pick would have been less flashy - but this is a mock draft - so why not.

I'm liking your pick more and more as I think about. Can the Colts actually be that creative on draft day? I'm not sure...I thought about the guy you had lined up but I have some reservations about him and I think that the 3rd round hold some comparable value at the same position. I think White will be a major playmaker who can line up all over the field and create problems for opposing defenses. Pat White and Peyton Manning on the field togetherMy pick would have been less flashy - but this is a mock draft - so why not.![]()
Chung was on my short list as well.DJ was the other guy I was considering at the Eagles pick.2.26 DJ Moore, CB, VanderbiltI had a tough time choosing between Rashad Johnson and Moore. Ultimately I went with the player that seems to have the most upside for his position. Also, Johnson is too similar to Merriweather to go in that direction.
Hmmm... wonder who you're taking here.Bankerguy said:The Cowboys take Sean Smith -Utah.
I really would have taken Duke Robinson, however I did that in the last mock. So, I want to try a different approach to see how it plays out.
In the case of Sean Smith the Cowboys love his size/speed, his natural ball skills and big play ability. We take him as our likely back up FS. However, his ability to also play CB is an attractive quality which was a large factor in taking him here. Other safeties (Who wll remain nameless were considered with this pick).
Cowboys are looking to trade up.
We are willing to give up picks or will listen to offers on Tashard Choice/Greg Ellis/Bobby Carpenter.
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Haha.....crap, I just assumed he was gone and didn't bother to check!!!! I edited my previous post.Cowboys RUN this pick up to the podium. OMG.Hmmm... wonder who you're taking here.Bankerguy said:The Cowboys take Sean Smith -Utah.
I really would have taken Duke Robinson, however I did that in the last mock. So, I want to try a different approach to see how it plays out.
In the case of Sean Smith the Cowboys love his size/speed, his natural ball skills and big play ability. We take him as our likely back up FS. However, his ability to also play CB is an attractive quality which was a large factor in taking him here. Other safeties (Who wll remain nameless were considered with this pick).
Cowboys are looking to trade up.
We are willing to give up picks or will listen to offers on Tashard Choice/Greg Ellis/Bobby Carpenter.
PM sent to stevegamereta: Ah... fooled me.
Haha.....crap, I just assumed he was gone and didn't bother to check!!!! I edited my previous post.Cowboys RUN this pick up to the podium. OMG.Hmmm... wonder who you're taking here.Bankerguy said:The Cowboys take Sean Smith -Utah.
I really would have taken Duke Robinson, however I did that in the last mock. So, I want to try a different approach to see how it plays out.
In the case of Sean Smith the Cowboys love his size/speed, his natural ball skills and big play ability. We take him as our likely back up FS. However, his ability to also play CB is an attractive quality which was a large factor in taking him here. Other safeties (Who wll remain nameless were considered with this pick).
Cowboys are looking to trade up.
We are willing to give up picks or will listen to offers on Tashard Choice/Greg Ellis/Bobby Carpenter.
PM sent to stevegamereta: Ah... fooled me.
as a Cowboy fan I was a little shocked u passed on Duke..... but now I see why..!!!
Yeah, like I said, I just assumed he would be gone, so when I came back for my pick I was only scanning to see if Johnson (Who I would be thrilled with as well and who I target with the trade) was taken. :brainfart:Haha.....crap, I just assumed he was gone and didn't bother to check!!!! I edited my previous post.Cowboys RUN this pick up to the podium. OMG.Hmmm... wonder who you're taking here.Bankerguy said:The Cowboys take Sean Smith -Utah.
I really would have taken Duke Robinson, however I did that in the last mock. So, I want to try a different approach to see how it plays out.
In the case of Sean Smith the Cowboys love his size/speed, his natural ball skills and big play ability. We take him as our likely back up FS. However, his ability to also play CB is an attractive quality which was a large factor in taking him here. Other safeties (Who wll remain nameless were considered with this pick).
Cowboys are looking to trade up.
We are willing to give up picks or will listen to offers on Tashard Choice/Greg Ellis/Bobby Carpenter.
PM sent to stevegamereta: Ah... fooled me.
as a Cowboy fan I was a little shocked u passed on Duke..... but now I see why..!!!
Great Comeback..!!!![]()
Yeah, I wouldn't have hated him being the Steelers pick here.2.32 Duke Robinson Analysis- I honestly would take him at 51, in this mock I went with Smith expecting to have Herman Johnson (Which I traded up for) and hence missed Robinson being still on the board as I kept checking to see if Johnson was still there.Duke Robinson is the best Guard in College Football. Great size and fits exactly what the Cowboys do in the tough NFC East. He immediately challenges Kyle Kosier for a starting job and allows Dallas to release Montrae Holland to save over 2 million on the cap. Road grater and even not bad on screens and in open space.I cannot believe he is still on the board. He should be a 40-50 pick.
Lions3.01 The Detroit Lions select Fili Moala, DT, USC
Yet another building block for the DL. He can be a dominating presence inside and will fit in nicely with the other additions. Here's hoping the new head coach Schwartz will help him maximize his enormous potential.
2009 Detroit Lions Draft:
1.01 Eugene Monroe, OT Virginia
1.20 Larry English, DE/OLB Northern Illinois
2.01 Jarron Gilbert, DE San Jose State
3.01 Fili Moala, DT USC
Thanks! Like I said in an earlier post, this team desperately needs talent on the DL. I think I accomplished that. Building the lines should be the first priority of the new FO. With the first pick, the way I look at it Monroe will be an ALL pro type player for the next 10 years while there are questions about Stafford. I'll take the more highly rated guy at the 2nd most important position on the field. I think the Lions will wait until next year to get their franchise signal caller.Lions3.01 The Detroit Lions select Fili Moala, DT, USC
Yet another building block for the DL. He can be a dominating presence inside and will fit in nicely with the other additions. Here's hoping the new head coach Schwartz will help him maximize his enormous potential.
2009 Detroit Lions Draft:
1.01 Eugene Monroe, OT Virginia
1.20 Larry English, DE/OLB Northern Illinois
2.01 Jarron Gilbert, DE San Jose State
3.01 Fili Moala, DT USC![]()
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Great draft.
Sorry for the delay guys, got stuck at the doctors. Not crazy about the pick, because I think he is extremely raw, and has a ways to go until he would be able to contribute. That being said, WR is definitely a need for the Titans, and having failed to move up in the 2nd, put them in a tough spot.Haven't heard from Domination, so the pick for Tenn is:2.30 Tennessee selects WR Mohamed Massaquoi, WR Georgia
Had him lined up for Denver. Good pick.3.04 - Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M
McGee is a QB with superior athleticism, intangibles, & arm strength to succeed at this level. He doesn't have a lot of dropback experience, but given time in that set, he may develop nicely. In a thin draft at QB, where almost all of the QB's have question marks, we are happy to get him. He has some similarities to Seneca Wallace, and so depending on how & when the post-Hasselbeck era shakes out, we will be able to use scrambling, roll-outs, and the like as part of the gameplan, no matter which QB is playing.
I'd have to disagree. In Seattle, this draft will be known as the one you passed up both Stafford AND Sanchez. Now you've saddled a kid who doesn't come close to their pedigree with comparisons against those two. Thus it will matter more what they do rather than what he does.IMO, if you do pass on Stafford and Sanchez, you can't draft a kid and position him as the heir apparent. McGee is a high enough draft pick to where that burden will be placed. Should wait until next year given the plethora of picks you have to make what moves you need at QB if you do have to go in that direction.Had him lined up for Denver. Good pick.3.04 - Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M
McGee is a QB with superior athleticism, intangibles, & arm strength to succeed at this level. He doesn't have a lot of dropback experience, but given time in that set, he may develop nicely. In a thin draft at QB, where almost all of the QB's have question marks, we are happy to get him. He has some similarities to Seneca Wallace, and so depending on how & when the post-Hasselbeck era shakes out, we will be able to use scrambling, roll-outs, and the like as part of the gameplan, no matter which QB is playing.
That's a fair criticism, and one I hadn't thought of. Do you think that thinking only applies to QB's?I'd have to disagree. In Seattle, this draft will be known as the one you passed up both Stafford AND Sanchez. Now you've saddled a kid who doesn't come close to their pedigree with comparisons against those two. Thus it will matter more what they do rather than what he does.IMO, if you do pass on Stafford and Sanchez, you can't draft a kid and position him as the heir apparent. McGee is a high enough draft pick to where that burden will be placed. Should wait until next year given the plethora of picks you have to make what moves you need at QB if you do have to go in that direction.Had him lined up for Denver. Good pick.3.04 - Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M
McGee is a QB with superior athleticism, intangibles, & arm strength to succeed at this level. He doesn't have a lot of dropback experience, but given time in that set, he may develop nicely. In a thin draft at QB, where almost all of the QB's have question marks, we are happy to get him. He has some similarities to Seneca Wallace, and so depending on how & when the post-Hasselbeck era shakes out, we will be able to use scrambling, roll-outs, and the like as part of the gameplan, no matter which QB is playing.
Franchise QB's are the face and identity of the team. So I think there is a uniqueness to that position where it simply is the recipient of more scrutiny.That's a fair criticism, and one I hadn't thought of. Do you think that thinking only applies to QB's?I'd have to disagree. In Seattle, this draft will be known as the one you passed up both Stafford AND Sanchez. Now you've saddled a kid who doesn't come close to their pedigree with comparisons against those two. Thus it will matter more what they do rather than what he does.IMO, if you do pass on Stafford and Sanchez, you can't draft a kid and position him as the heir apparent. McGee is a high enough draft pick to where that burden will be placed. Should wait until next year given the plethora of picks you have to make what moves you need at QB if you do have to go in that direction.Had him lined up for Denver. Good pick.3.04 - Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M
McGee is a QB with superior athleticism, intangibles, & arm strength to succeed at this level. He doesn't have a lot of dropback experience, but given time in that set, he may develop nicely. In a thin draft at QB, where almost all of the QB's have question marks, we are happy to get him. He has some similarities to Seneca Wallace, and so depending on how & when the post-Hasselbeck era shakes out, we will be able to use scrambling, roll-outs, and the like as part of the gameplan, no matter which QB is playing.
Thanks. This is the first mock I've ever been in or done, so I will keep that in mind for the future.Franchise QB's are the face and identity of the team. So I think there is a uniqueness to that position where it simply is the recipient of more scrutiny.That's a fair criticism, and one I hadn't thought of. Do you think that thinking only applies to QB's?I'd have to disagree. In Seattle, this draft will be known as the one you passed up both Stafford AND Sanchez. Now you've saddled a kid who doesn't come close to their pedigree with comparisons against those two. Thus it will matter more what they do rather than what he does.IMO, if you do pass on Stafford and Sanchez, you can't draft a kid and position him as the heir apparent. McGee is a high enough draft pick to where that burden will be placed. Should wait until next year given the plethora of picks you have to make what moves you need at QB if you do have to go in that direction.Had him lined up for Denver. Good pick.3.04 - Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M
McGee is a QB with superior athleticism, intangibles, & arm strength to succeed at this level. He doesn't have a lot of dropback experience, but given time in that set, he may develop nicely. In a thin draft at QB, where almost all of the QB's have question marks, we are happy to get him. He has some similarities to Seneca Wallace, and so depending on how & when the post-Hasselbeck era shakes out, we will be able to use scrambling, roll-outs, and the like as part of the gameplan, no matter which QB is playing.
It's an interesting thought. I haven't heard too many people comparing Trent Edwards to Quinn or Russell, but then, they haven't achieved success. Has anyone compared Orton to Rodgers?Franchise QB's are the face and identity of the team. So I think there is a uniqueness to that position where it simply is the recipient of more scrutiny.That's a fair criticism, and one I hadn't thought of. Do you think that thinking only applies to QB's?I'd have to disagree. In Seattle, this draft will be known as the one you passed up both Stafford AND Sanchez. Now you've saddled a kid who doesn't come close to their pedigree with comparisons against those two. Thus it will matter more what they do rather than what he does.IMO, if you do pass on Stafford and Sanchez, you can't draft a kid and position him as the heir apparent. McGee is a high enough draft pick to where that burden will be placed. Should wait until next year given the plethora of picks you have to make what moves you need at QB if you do have to go in that direction.Had him lined up for Denver. Good pick.3.04 - Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M
McGee is a QB with superior athleticism, intangibles, & arm strength to succeed at this level. He doesn't have a lot of dropback experience, but given time in that set, he may develop nicely. In a thin draft at QB, where almost all of the QB's have question marks, we are happy to get him. He has some similarities to Seneca Wallace, and so depending on how & when the post-Hasselbeck era shakes out, we will be able to use scrambling, roll-outs, and the like as part of the gameplan, no matter which QB is playing.
I think it was a good move and one that Seattle can make. They have a starting QB who McGee can sit behind and learn for a year or two. McGee is one of the better senior QBs entering the draft and has the raw ability. If he can make the most of his learning experience on the bench for a couple years, I think he can end up a very good NFL QB. At least that is why I was targeting him for Denver.Thanks. This is the first mock I've ever been in or done, so I will keep that in mind for the future.
Different situation and circumstances though. Buffalo never had a shot at Russell and was pretty much pegged to pick Lynch. The fact that Quinn hasn't seen the field and slipped to #23 probably dims comparisons.Rodgers and Brees both slipped to late first and early second respectively.But trading down out of the Top 10 twice is almost unheard of. It's a big deal and IMO would qualify as a seismic moment in franchise draft history, if not franchise history. Particularly since they had the opportunity to select one of two franchise QB's. Now that's fine IMO if Seattle decides to do that.But to come back and pick a QB early in Round 3 puts a target on his back. If I'm a fan, I say "why didn't we just pick up Stafford or Sanchez?". And if either one excels, I think comparisons would be made given how this mock turned out.It's an interesting thought. I haven't heard too many people comparing Trent Edwards to Quinn or Russell, but then, they haven't achieved success. Has anyone compared Orton to Rodgers?Haven't heard anyone compare Carter, Weinke, Rosenfels to Brees. I just can't think of a draft where this has been the case. Not to say it isn't, but show me where this has happened.
My reply would be that we were never looking at a QB in round 1. I laid out my thoughts earlier, and I wanted to get value by letting other people grab Stafford, Sanchez (who I just don't like), and RB#1 - ended up being Moreno.Different situation and circumstances though. Buffalo never had a shot at Russell and was pretty much pegged to pick Lynch. The fact that Quinn hasn't seen the field and slipped to #23 probably dims comparisons.Rodgers and Brees both slipped to late first and early second respectively.It's an interesting thought. I haven't heard too many people comparing Trent Edwards to Quinn or Russell, but then, they haven't achieved success.
Has anyone compared Orton to Rodgers?
Haven't heard anyone compare Carter, Weinke, Rosenfels to Brees.
I just can't think of a draft where this has been the case. Not to say it isn't, but show me where this has happened.
But trading down out of the Top 10 twice is almost unheard of. It's a big deal and IMO would qualify as a seismic moment in franchise draft history, if not franchise history. Particularly since they had the opportunity to select one of two franchise QB's. Now that's fine IMO if Seattle decides to do that.
But to come back and pick a QB early in Round 3 puts a target on his back. If I'm a fan, I say "why didn't we just pick up Stafford or Sanchez?". And if either one excels, I think comparisons would be made given how this mock turned out.
I agree, the coaching staff can send pressers out to alleviate a lot of the pressure. If you had a dire need for a QB I'd think there's a better point here, but as long as Hass stays on the field for a year or two, I wouldn't be concerned. The point is valid to a degree, it's unprecedented for a team to trade down like this. I wouldn't let that push you away from drafting a QB if you love the kid.My reply would be that we were never looking at a QB in round 1. I laid out my thoughts earlier, and I wanted to get value by letting other people grab Stafford, Sanchez (who I just don't like), and RB#1 - ended up being Moreno.Different situation and circumstances though. Buffalo never had a shot at Russell and was pretty much pegged to pick Lynch. The fact that Quinn hasn't seen the field and slipped to #23 probably dims comparisons.Rodgers and Brees both slipped to late first and early second respectively.It's an interesting thought. I haven't heard too many people comparing Trent Edwards to Quinn or Russell, but then, they haven't achieved success.
Has anyone compared Orton to Rodgers?
Haven't heard anyone compare Carter, Weinke, Rosenfels to Brees.
I just can't think of a draft where this has been the case. Not to say it isn't, but show me where this has happened.
But trading down out of the Top 10 twice is almost unheard of. It's a big deal and IMO would qualify as a seismic moment in franchise draft history, if not franchise history. Particularly since they had the opportunity to select one of two franchise QB's. Now that's fine IMO if Seattle decides to do that.
But to come back and pick a QB early in Round 3 puts a target on his back. If I'm a fan, I say "why didn't we just pick up Stafford or Sanchez?". And if either one excels, I think comparisons would be made given how this mock turned out.