49ers offense looks terrible (1 Viewer)

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Ok, so I went back and watched both Smith int's. No one can make the claim that the second INT was Crabtree's fault or not. The announcers seemed to think it was Smith's fault, and without knowing exactly what the route was, it looked like a horrible throw by Smith.

The first one was a drop by Crabtree that resulted in an INT. Definetely Crabtree's fault.

Smith was dreadful the rest of the game though.

 

[CalBear]

p.s. calbear wanted the niners to take Braylon...and next year wanted Huff over VD.

Taking Braylon Edwards would clearly have put the Niners in a better situation than taking Alex Smith did. Edwards made the Pro Bowl while Smith made the bench behind Shaun freaking Hill. And SF is still stuck with one of the worst QB situations in the league, five years later. Other guys taken high in the first round that year are Antrel Rolle, Demarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, and Jammal Brown, all of whom would have improved the Niners more than Smith did. Huff may or may not have worked out, but Davis had three crappy seasons and one good one. And even his good season was a losing season for the Niners. Why? Because a good TE really doesn't do much for a bad team. Tony Gonzalez is the best TE of all time, and he's only been to the playoffs once. TE is one of the silliest places to spend a high draft pick, surpassed only by special teams. They could have had Owen Daniels in the fourth round instead.

 

[delusional]

They really need to add INTs for WR/TE/RBs because the one INT was on crabtree.

On another note, i love how singletary was calling out Smith & Crabtree...guy needs to call himself out

 

[Hooper31]

...but if Lawson/Haralason can't dominate a chump rookie LT, this is gonna be a long season...again...

Who is he chump rookie LT?

 

[footballnerd]

So, Smith started red hot and the SF offense was in control of the game. Smith then throws 2 picks, both of which where not his fault but Crabtree's and things head south. The oline was spotty all day long thanks to new/young bodies going through some growing pains. Smith finishes the day with the following stats:

26 completions, 45 attempts, 225 yds, 0 TDs, 2 INTs.

Can someone explain to me why exactly Smith is getting all the blame here? Someone who watched the game tell me how exactly he played so poorly? From someone who didn't see a single snap of the game it seems from reading this thread and reading the stat line Smith is nothing more than a scapegoat right now.

Smith didn't start red hot. He got the ball on the Seattle 29 and turned it into a field goal. He had a dink-and-dunk drive which ended in a fourth-down incompletion. Then he got the ball on the Seattle 37 and turned it into a field goal. Then, after getting the ball in poor field position, he had two completions and his disastrous melt-down; INT, 2 incompletions, INT, 2 incompletions, delay of game, intentional grounding. Three drives resulting in a total of -10 yards of field position and two easy TDs for Seattle. So in the entire game he had just one decent drive, and that one resulted in no points.

actually, that is considered red hot for Alex Smith

 

[footballnerd]

Ok, so I went back and watched both Smith int's. No one can make the claim that the second INT was Crabtree's fault or not. The announcers seemed to think it was Smith's fault, and without knowing exactly what the route was, it looked like a horrible throw by Smith.The first one was a drop by Crabtree that resulted in an INT. Definetely Crabtree's fault.Smith was dreadful the rest of the game though.

We always expect more out of the "smart" one.It's a given that Smith is an idiot.If Crabtree is going to be elite like he thinks he is, he makes those plays.

 

[CalBear]

Ok, so I went back and watched both Smith int's. No one can make the claim that the second INT was Crabtree's fault or not. The announcers seemed to think it was Smith's fault, and without knowing exactly what the route was, it looked like a horrible throw by Smith.The first one was a drop by Crabtree that resulted in an INT. Definetely Crabtree's fault.Smith was dreadful the rest of the game though.

We always expect more out of the "smart" one.It's a given that Smith is an idiot.If Crabtree is going to be elite like he thinks he is, he makes those plays.

The first play was shared responsibility. Crabtree was breaking to his right while Smith threw it to his left shoulder. He could have caught it anyway, but it was awkward. A better pass would have been an easy catch. The second play could go either way; you don't know unless you know the playbook. I'm willing to believe that Crabtree ran the wrong route and Smith threw it to the right place. Even so, it looks like the pass was going to be too high, and into double coverage. It's hard to imagine what route Crabtree might have run to make that a good read or a good pass. It's a three-man rush, no pressure on Smith at all. He's got a receiver wide open in the left flat. "Alex Smith sucks" is not exactly news, I know.

 

[CalBear]

p.s. calbear wanted the niners to take Braylon...and next year wanted Huff over VD.

One more comment on this: Going into the 2006 season, the Niners were a bad team coming off a 4-12 season. Here are the other teams which were 4-12 or worse that year:Houston Texans, 2-14. They improved to 9-7 by 2009 and look poised to take the next step.New Orleans Saints, 3-13. Won the Super Bowl in 2009.New York Jets, 4-12. Three winning seasons, two playoff appearances since then, including 2009.Green Bay Packers, 4-12. Two playoff appearances, including 2009, and a real Super Bowl contender.Oakland Raiders, 4-12. Al Davis.What this shows is that in today's NFL, four years is more than enough time to turn around a 4-12 franchise. The moves the Niners have made in that time have not gotten it done, and now with reverting to Alex Smith at QB, they appear poised to regress. Maybe they'll stay ahead of the Raiders, but the rest of the league has passed them by.And despite spending three high first-round draft picks on offensive skill-position players since 2005, they finished as the 27th ranked offense in 2009.

 

[FavreCo]

How bad of an OC are you when a bum like Alex Smith calls you out?

 

[xfactor99]

Yeah, Smith is a bad quarterback (though it's clear he would be better in a spread offense), but Raye's conservative, uninspired playcalling doesn't help matters one bit.

 

[FavreCo]

Unbeleivable. In the NFL? You gotta be ####### kidding.

According to multiple sources familiar with the circumstances, the real problem has been more than a year in the making and became more significant following changes the 49ers made within the coaching staff this offseason.

In Singletary’s first full season last year, offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye, one of the more respected veteran coaches in the league, was calling plays from the coach’s box upstairs. Raye would call plays down to offensive assistant Jason Michael, who would then send the play into the quarterback. That system worked effectively even at times when Raye struggled to find exactly the right play or say it exactly the right way.

“It seems like Jimmy calls plays from memory a lot of the time and not exactly the way it’s written down,” said one of the aforementioned sources, adding that the plays often get garbled. “He knows the plays and he knows the right thing to call, but he’s fumbling through his papers and it’s like, ‘Hey, we need to get a play called.’ ”

Michael, who worked closely with Raye, was good at filling the gaps in communication. However, one of the problems created by the Raye-Michael relationship was that it began to alienate quarterback coach Mike Johnson(notes), whose involvement in building the game plan had diminished. In addition, some players began to resent Raye’s tendency to blame them if things went wrong.

Maybe Singletary should call this idiot out.