Good point...cancel the broadcasts and shut down the fantasy websites.You've got to love the Week 2 preseason overreactions on both fronts...
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GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Game 3 of the preseason is the most important to pay attention to - and keeping track of the injuries / drug suspensions.Good point...cancel the broadcasts and shut down the fantasy websites.
Billy1x
Footballguy
Yes and no. Preseason for the Bears but regular season for the 49ers. Looks like they are running the regular season offense.Good and established teams usually are generic but one with new offenses can't always afford to be. I think the 49ers first string is still in there.Good point...cancel the broadcasts and shut down the fantasy websites.
Billy1x
Footballguy
Griese 4/5 for 81 and a TD so far. The rushing game sucks so far. 8 rushs for 9 yards by Pope, Peterson & Grossman.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
C'mon Bass, you're better than that. Year in, year out people get overzealous about preseason game stats and performance, overshooting the mark both negatively and positively. That's not to say we don't/shouldn't pay attention, but it's important to view these things as cause for minor directional changes in one's expectations, not wholesale revamps.In Gore's case, there was a huge question as to whether he or Barlow would be the main guy. Now, if Barlow is injured or doesn't get a chance to carry the ball as much as Gore did in next week's game, there's cause to materially re-assess Gore's ADP and projections. But to suggest that he's now a top-10 back potentially is REALLY overreaching.Happens every year, and it's easy to understand why. But if Peyton Manning went 1-4 with an INT, would people knock him down considerably? If Shaun Alexander went 3 for 5 yards and a fumble, would people say he's no longer a top-20 back? Patience and logic need to coincide with the excitement of games being back on the tube.Good point...cancel the broadcasts and shut down the fantasy websites.
wannabee
Footballguy
so, Jason, you think Addai will be a bust, too?C'mon Bass, you're better than that. Year in, year out people get overzealous about preseason game stats and performance, overshooting the mark both negatively and positively. That's not to say we don't/shouldn't pay attention, but it's important to view these things as cause for minor directional changes in one's expectations, not wholesale revamps.In Gore's case, there was a huge question as to whether he or Barlow would be the main guy. Now, if Barlow is injured or doesn't get a chance to carry the ball as much as Gore did in next week's game, there's cause to materially re-assess Gore's ADP and projections. But to suggest that he's now a top-10 back potentially is REALLY overreaching.Happens every year, and it's easy to understand why. But if Peyton Manning went 1-4 with an INT, would people knock him down considerably? If Shaun Alexander went 3 for 5 yards and a fumble, would people say he's no longer a top-20 back? Patience and logic need to coincide with the excitement of games being back on the tube.Good point...cancel the broadcasts and shut down the fantasy websites.
Billy1x
Footballguy
Update - Griese now 6 for 7 and 2 TDs.
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Jason Wood
Zoo York
I'm going to presume you were being sarcastic?so, Jason, you think Addai will be a bust, too?C'mon Bass, you're better than that. Year in, year out people get overzealous about preseason game stats and performance, overshooting the mark both negatively and positively. That's not to say we don't/shouldn't pay attention, but it's important to view these things as cause for minor directional changes in one's expectations, not wholesale revamps.In Gore's case, there was a huge question as to whether he or Barlow would be the main guy. Now, if Barlow is injured or doesn't get a chance to carry the ball as much as Gore did in next week's game, there's cause to materially re-assess Gore's ADP and projections. But to suggest that he's now a top-10 back potentially is REALLY overreaching.Happens every year, and it's easy to understand why. But if Peyton Manning went 1-4 with an INT, would people knock him down considerably? If Shaun Alexander went 3 for 5 yards and a fumble, would people say he's no longer a top-20 back? Patience and logic need to coincide with the excitement of games being back on the tube.Good point...cancel the broadcasts and shut down the fantasy websites.
wannabee
Footballguy
I'm going to presume you were being sarcastic?so, Jason, you think Addai will be a bust, too?C'mon Bass, you're better than that. Year in, year out people get overzealous about preseason game stats and performance, overshooting the mark both negatively and positively. That's not to say we don't/shouldn't pay attention, but it's important to view these things as cause for minor directional changes in one's expectations, not wholesale revamps.In Gore's case, there was a huge question as to whether he or Barlow would be the main guy. Now, if Barlow is injured or doesn't get a chance to carry the ball as much as Gore did in next week's game, there's cause to materially re-assess Gore's ADP and projections. But to suggest that he's now a top-10 back potentially is REALLY overreaching.Happens every year, and it's easy to understand why. But if Peyton Manning went 1-4 with an INT, would people knock him down considerably? If Shaun Alexander went 3 for 5 yards and a fumble, would people say he's no longer a top-20 back? Patience and logic need to coincide with the excitement of games being back on the tube.Good point...cancel the broadcasts and shut down the fantasy websites.
yes, in the vain of the thread on that topic earlier today.bocksheesh
Footballguy
Top 10 of what?
guderian
Footballguy
Are you kidding me? He mentioned that a QB that played horribly last year looks more NFL ready this year, he then made comments on 5 different depth chart/opportunity situations and lastly commented on the Bear's line. It's not like he extrapolated these performances into the regular season. It's info, we don't need the "it's preseason" reminder.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Rushing yards by RBs whose last name starts with a "G"
Keep in mind the Bears and Niners play during the regular season - both the OC and DC of Chicago have said all week they will be play very vanilla schemes this game, so as no to reveal too much. They just want guys to get some game work and look at the young guys.
Otis
Footballguy
I had a bachelor party to attend tonight -- but it looks as though Gore did exactly what I expected he would.
You're all fools if you haven't been picking this kid for value (or trading for him) all offseason long. I gave you the heads-up a long time ago.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
SuchRushing yards by RBs whose last name starts with a "G"
This happens with the Eagles every preseason. People in Philly get all worked up about the defense (either positively or negatively) and yet Andy and the Birds ALWAYS use only a small fraction of their base defense throughout the preseason by design.Gore's stock is up, for sure. But let's not start deluding ourselves into thinking Alex Smith is now a draftable fantasy QB, Gore is a "top 10" sleeper and Antonio Bryant is going to be a lock for 1,000 yards.
DrunkinDwarf
Footballguy
This is exactly the type of info I logged into this Board to see. We all know it is preseason. These were observations from the game last night. Not major pronouncements for the year to come!
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
Regarding Alex Smith, I agree with you that he doesn't now become a useful fantasy QB this season. The positive I took from tonights game from Alex Smith is:Gore's stock is up, for sure. But let's not start deluding ourselves into thinking Alex Smith is now a draftable fantasy QB, Gore is a "top 10" sleeper and Antonio Bryant is going to be a lock for 1,000 yards.Rushing yards by RBs whose last name starts with a "G"
1. It appears much less likely now that the 49ers drafted a bust at #1 overall last year. The liklihood that Alex Smith had a bad rookie season like Bradshaw, Aikman and Eli (for examples) and can improve and not implode into a major bust took a turn for the better last night. Alex Smith looked good last night in every way I can think of, and last season (preseason and reg season) he never looked this good. I only see this as good news for Alex Smith and for the 49ers as a franchise.
2. Alex Smiths dynasty value should go up. If you have a smallish roster size and before tonight were considering cutting him, don't. The 49ers will still need weapons for Smith to post any type of significant starting QB numbers in fantasy. It is very possible that in 2-4 years the 49ers are a whole different team with good WRS and the situation in SF can only get better than last year, last year had to be the floor.
Overall, you could call me a cautious optimist.
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Otis
Footballguy
I've been feeling for almost a year now that this is entirely possible. I just don't think it's a delusion at all.
Is it a lock? No way. But I think he's got the talent to make it happen.
Grid and other Bear fans,
What's the buzz on the Chicago RB situation today?
J
What's the buzz on the Chicago RB situation today?
J
have you looked at the jets lately? Who is the QB? RB? WR's? TE? THAT is a bad team.Ummmmmm, could we can the hyperbole? Top-10? The 49ers could well be the worst team in football.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
There really is no buzz today in the local papers. The general idea was to focus on the passing game with Benson & Jones out. 11 of the first 16 plays were passes, and with Grossman misfiring, the chances to sustain any drives were non-existent. With the RB's, it is a wait-and-see vibe today.
Peterson didn't get much room to show anything. The first team offensive line was getting blown up. It is the same unit as last year so I wouldn't get to worried, but it also might show just how much Kreutz means to the line as he stayed at home with an illness.Jones has been participating in walk throughs and stretching drills, and my guess is he will be back before Benson. Even if he makes it back this week I doubt he will play in preseason game 2 on Friday. After that it is anyones guess, if Jones takes the bull by the horn while Benson is out he might move back up to the 1, or Lovie could go with the old injury can not cause the loss of your job and basically we would be resetting the preseason.
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derek19
Footballguy
I had a bachelor party to attend tonight -- but it looks as though Gore did exactly what I expected he would.
Wanted to make sure you seen it!!!
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Joe, with Kreutz out - and Cedric Benson still a couple weeks away, and who knows what with Thomas Jones, it was pretty clear to me that the Bears did NOT want to risk injuring Adrian Peterson and wanted to see what they had at WR. It ended up backfiring on them, as now they see what do NOT have at QB with Grossman.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
The recepts sort of caught me off guard (pardon the pun). I never really though of Gore as a pass catching back. And while the top 10 talk is a little premature, if the recepts stay, it is a possibility in PPR leagues that Gore could be a huge contributor. Top 10? Unlikely. Possible, but unlikely.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I've been right next to you on the Gore bandwagon. Grabbed him as my 4th RB in a brand new Dynasty league a couple months ago. Oh, and pretty much everyone in that league is a FBG. Wasn't going to overpay, but when he fell into my lap as my 4th RB I was ecstatic. And since it is a dynasty league I was just hoping for an injury free year and some fill in duty on bye weeks and hope he's the real deal next year. Since it's a PPR league, he may be getting more starts than just fill in duty...I had a bachelor party to attend tonight -- but it looks as though Gore did exactly what I expected he would.
Grid, I agree they were probably saving Peterson, but didn't you find it eerily similar to the play calling of the Panther playoff game. The opposition scored fast and suddenly we lose our identity of pounding the ball, while Grossman comes out gunning and not hitting anyone. Obviously the game didn't matter, but I hope we don't see the panic mode during the regular season.
BigRed
Footballguy
Not here they don't.Patience and logic need to coincide with the excitement of games being back on the tube.
Actually doesn't matter in this case; I wouldn't touch a CHI player with a 10' this year (same as last year - and yes I know T Jones did well).Be interesting to see how much these anemic O's can improve though.
doughboydeluxe
Footballguy
I thought Alex Smith looked pretty good, but I have to wonder how vanilla of a defense the Bears used. He was able to hit most of his open receivers, though, and checked down to Gore instead of forcing a play that wasn't there, so there's something to be said for that. I didn't see Smith try to go up the field, though.
CalBear
Footballguy
The Jets have Chad Pennington at QB, 65.4% career completions with 55 TDs and 30 INTs (compared to Alex Smith, 1 TD 11 INT). At RB they still might have a Hall of Fame running back on the end of his career, and as a backup have a guy who had 539 yards, 4.6 ypc and 9 TDs in 2004. At WR they have a guy with two 1200-yard seasons to his credit. All of those are better than what SF has at the same postions. Oh, and they also ad the #12 defense, as opposed to the #32 defense in 2005.have you looked at the jets lately? Who is the QB? RB? WR's? TE? THAT is a bad team.Ummmmmm, could we can the hyperbole? Top-10? The 49ers could well be the worst team in football.
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ericttspikes
Footballguy
I've NEVER been a Grossman believer, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He simply hasn't played enough yet, and this was a preseason game. That said, I think the best QB on the team is Griese, and not just because he outplayed him in this meaningless game. That was a good pick up for the Bears and I can easily see him starting at least 8 games this year. I'm really interested to see if moving Rashied Davis to wideout full time is going to work. He'd been getting hyped at camp, and had a good showing yesterday.
derek19
Footballguy
I believe he had one target (incomplete). I heard he blocked well on runs. Thats it i guess.
Deadzone21
Footballguy
I'd too would like to see an end to those "It's only preseason posting". I'm sure most of us on this board already know it's "only preseason". But, I still like to read others' opinions based on what is perceived from training camps and preseason games (I've been known to make my own opinions and assumptions). I agree that one shouldn't go overboard based on a couple of plays from the first preseason game, but if one does jump to a conclusion, I still want to read their reasons for jumping to that conclusion.What the alternative?...no postings until after the first regular season game? Do we need a Pinned post reminding everyone it's only preseason? Let's just go on with our PRESEASON analysis, opinions and assumption without the constant interruption and reminder that's it's only preseason.
