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5 ROUND MOCK DRAFT W/ COMP PICKS (1 Viewer)
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coolnerd
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When I have not shown up for my pick? Guys have went for days and the one day a week I am not plastered to my computer I get maybe an hour before I get rushed....
Texans select Logan Mankins OL Fresno StateMankins played well at LT in college, but probably moves inside to guard in the pros. Agrressive, blocker who is physical at the poit of attack. The texans add a depth player who will be expected to push the starters in a year or two.
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Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
Washington is up @ #79 overall, Minnesota is on deck
#79 Washington Redskins select DE Jovan Haye Vanderbilt 6'2 284 4.75
Very good speed...Great size...Very athletic...All-around player who can rush the passer as well as play the run effectively...Quick with good closing speed...Very smart...Also a team captain.
Needs to find his optimal playing weight Led the SEC w/ 8.5 sacks as a junior at 255. Got to 280 and and maintained his speed but had only 1 sack in '04 but saw double teams all year long. He should get down to 270 in the NFL to be effective as both a pass rusher and a run defender.
Very good speed...Great size...Very athletic...All-around player who can rush the passer as well as play the run effectively...Quick with good closing speed...Very smart...Also a team captain.
Needs to find his optimal playing weight Led the SEC w/ 8.5 sacks as a junior at 255. Got to 280 and and maintained his speed but had only 1 sack in '04 but saw double teams all year long. He should get down to 270 in the NFL to be effective as both a pass rusher and a run defender.
With the 80th overall Pick the Vikings take: Chris Kemoeatu OG Utah
Mike Tice quote as saying "We need some depth along or O-Line. We under stand this guy has mean streak and we hope to focus that energy in to the correct channels. "
Strengths: Massive size and frame...Strong as an ox...Can just maul defenders at times...A dominator in the running game...Intense and fiery...Good athletic ability for his size...Explosive out of his stance...Will not get pushed around.
Weaknesses: Has some character questions...Has been known to lose his cool on the field and has been suspended for kicking opposing players in the face during a game...Immature...Struggles in space...Needs to get better technically and plays too high.
Notes: You certainly never condone the type of violence on the field he has gotten in trouble for, but you can bet some coaches will love his intensity...If you are looking for a massive, dominating run blocker a la David Dixon then this is your guy...Has a brother that plays for the Baltimore Ravens.
Younger Verision of Dixon?
My take is: The guy I targeted was Mankis but he went 2 spots before. . I consider about 3 OG and 3 Safeties with this pick. By far my toughest pick in the draft.
We are now taking all offers for O. Smith, Cambell, K. Mixon and M. Robinson.
Barring a trade the Vikings Draft is done. Will write summary soon.
Mike Tice quote as saying "We need some depth along or O-Line. We under stand this guy has mean streak and we hope to focus that energy in to the correct channels. "
Strengths: Massive size and frame...Strong as an ox...Can just maul defenders at times...A dominator in the running game...Intense and fiery...Good athletic ability for his size...Explosive out of his stance...Will not get pushed around.
Weaknesses: Has some character questions...Has been known to lose his cool on the field and has been suspended for kicking opposing players in the face during a game...Immature...Struggles in space...Needs to get better technically and plays too high.
Notes: You certainly never condone the type of violence on the field he has gotten in trouble for, but you can bet some coaches will love his intensity...If you are looking for a massive, dominating run blocker a la David Dixon then this is your guy...Has a brother that plays for the Baltimore Ravens.
Younger Verision of Dixon?
My take is: The guy I targeted was Mankis but he went 2 spots before.
. I consider about 3 OG and 3 Safeties with this pick. By far my toughest pick in the draft.We are now taking all offers for O. Smith, Cambell, K. Mixon and M. Robinson.
Barring a trade the Vikings Draft is done. Will write summary soon.
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
With the 17th pick in the 3rd round, the St. Louis Rams select
OG Evan Mathis U. of Alabama
He is rising fast on draft boards, as among OG's in this class, he was arguably the top performer @ the Combine.
Among OGs
1st in the 40
1st in the 20
1st in the 10
1st in the broad jump
1sr in the shuttle
1st in the cone drill
2nd in the bench press
2nd in the vertical leap
7th in the Wonderlic (25)
He will more than likely take over in midseason for Scott Tercero, but wwill be given the opportunity to win the job in training camp.
OG Evan Mathis U. of Alabama
He is rising fast on draft boards, as among OG's in this class, he was arguably the top performer @ the Combine.
Among OGs
1st in the 40
1st in the 20
1st in the 10
1st in the broad jump
1sr in the shuttle
1st in the cone drill
2nd in the bench press
2nd in the vertical leap
7th in the Wonderlic (25)
He will more than likely take over in midseason for Scott Tercero, but wwill be given the opportunity to win the job in training camp.
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Kleck.
Footballguy
Cincy - James Butler, SS, Georgia Tech
I'm surprised he made it half way into the 3rd. I've seen many mixed feeling on Butler (early 2nd round - early 4th round) but Cincy will love to take a chance on this extremely athletic safety here.
COMBINE:
H - 6'1.7"
W - 213 lbs.
40 - 4.51
Vert - 40.5"
broad - 10'7"
PRO DAY:
H - 6'1.7"
W - 213 lbs.
40 - 4.54
Vert - 44"
broad - 10'8"
I'm surprised he made it half way into the 3rd. I've seen many mixed feeling on Butler (early 2nd round - early 4th round) but Cincy will love to take a chance on this extremely athletic safety here.
COMBINE:
H - 6'1.7"
W - 213 lbs.
40 - 4.51
Vert - 40.5"
broad - 10'7"
PRO DAY:
H - 6'1.7"
W - 213 lbs.
40 - 4.54
Vert - 44"
broad - 10'8"
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fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Seahawks select Jason Brown, C, North Carolina
With the 86th pick, the Buffalo Bills select
Joel Dreesen, TE, Colorado St
I love this guy and think he'd be a perfect fit for the Bills. He's a blue collar player who works hard, is a solid blocker, and has enough athletic ability to make plays in the passing game. He had a strong Senior Bowl week and looked great at the combine. With the Bills top-2 TEs both currently rehabilitating from serious knee injuries, this is a huge need. If he can prove himself a capable blocker in training camp, Dreesen should be able to compete for a starting job right away. At worse, he should see time as a receiving TE in 2 TE formations, and will give JP Losman another reliable weapon in the passing game. Adding a TE like this should help the running game and the passing game, and I would not be surprised at all if the Bills called his name in the 3rd round on draft day.
Joel Dreesen, TE, Colorado St
I love this guy and think he'd be a perfect fit for the Bills. He's a blue collar player who works hard, is a solid blocker, and has enough athletic ability to make plays in the passing game. He had a strong Senior Bowl week and looked great at the combine. With the Bills top-2 TEs both currently rehabilitating from serious knee injuries, this is a huge need. If he can prove himself a capable blocker in training camp, Dreesen should be able to compete for a starting job right away. At worse, he should see time as a receiving TE in 2 TE formations, and will give JP Losman another reliable weapon in the passing game. Adding a TE like this should help the running game and the passing game, and I would not be surprised at all if the Bills called his name in the 3rd round on draft day.
With the 87th pick of the (mock) NFL draft, Jacksonville selects...
Michael Munoz
OT | (6'5", 306, 5.4) | Tennessee
(snip from Scouts Inc.)
Strengths: Has very good overall size and frame. Is technically sound. Takes very good angles and consistently will get in position as a run blocker. Has adequate mobility. Does a better job as a downfield blocker than his recorded speed would indicate. He takes good angles, has good initial quickness and is fluid. Will get out and cut linebackers in space. Is a savvy player. Plays with leverage, uses his hands well and does a good job of locking on, driving his legs and working to finish. He has a quick set in pass pro. Has long arms, great hand placement, and does a very good job of stonewalling edge rushers. Is a good athlete for his size, as well. He plays with balance and leverage. Is able to get set versus top edge rushers and also has the athletic ability to re-direct back inside versus the double move.
He's slipped due to some durability problems, but has shown excellent ability to come back from various knee and shoulder problems. He's got some improvement to do on his run blocking, but should develop nicely and give some competition to Pearson at LT (and hopefully take over or at least be ready if/when Pearson gets injured).
Edit: The other OT's left around on my board at this point were Pete McMahon from Iowa and Chris Colmer of North Carolina. Both are more projected to be RT's due to limited athleticism. I've got Mo Williams who is developing nicely at RT, so really wanted to nab someone to grow into a LT. With Munoz's pedigree, it was an easy pick.
Michael Munoz
OT | (6'5", 306, 5.4) | Tennessee
(snip from Scouts Inc.)
Strengths: Has very good overall size and frame. Is technically sound. Takes very good angles and consistently will get in position as a run blocker. Has adequate mobility. Does a better job as a downfield blocker than his recorded speed would indicate. He takes good angles, has good initial quickness and is fluid. Will get out and cut linebackers in space. Is a savvy player. Plays with leverage, uses his hands well and does a good job of locking on, driving his legs and working to finish. He has a quick set in pass pro. Has long arms, great hand placement, and does a very good job of stonewalling edge rushers. Is a good athlete for his size, as well. He plays with balance and leverage. Is able to get set versus top edge rushers and also has the athletic ability to re-direct back inside versus the double move.
He's slipped due to some durability problems, but has shown excellent ability to come back from various knee and shoulder problems. He's got some improvement to do on his run blocking, but should develop nicely and give some competition to Pearson at LT (and hopefully take over or at least be ready if/when Pearson gets injured).
Edit: The other OT's left around on my board at this point were Pete McMahon from Iowa and Chris Colmer of North Carolina. Both are more projected to be RT's due to limited athleticism. I've got Mo Williams who is developing nicely at RT, so really wanted to nab someone to grow into a LT. With Munoz's pedigree, it was an easy pick.
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Open Vote for NYJ's pick:I'll nominate Roscoe Parish (WR, Miami). Jets got CB in 1st and TE in 2nd. Not familiar with their needs, but with Coles and McCairens, I could see the Jets looking to add a speed WR (Coles might be this, but his foot really scares me). Do they have needs at DL anywhere, is there enough talent left to justify a pick at DL?
Diablo
Footballguy
Well still some holes to fill on the defense while also looking over the O-line at the OG and Center positions to fill a spot or two. DE is still looking for a little depth or a situational pass rusher but no value at any of those spots so no need in reaching.
Where the value really does present itself is at CB. The Packers also need an explosive returner as well to give them better field position along with a solid nickel or dime defender to develop. Shazor may eventually move to the WILL spot depending on how his production in camp comes along.
The Packers selectAntonio Perkins, CB, Oklahoma
Though he may have a little history of injury, when he sets foot on the field as a punt returner he makes things happen. He will also battle for the nickel spot right away as our young CBs haven't developed like they should.
Where the value really does present itself is at CB. The Packers also need an explosive returner as well to give them better field position along with a solid nickel or dime defender to develop. Shazor may eventually move to the WILL spot depending on how his production in camp comes along.
The Packers selectAntonio Perkins, CB, Oklahoma
Though he may have a little history of injury, when he sets foot on the field as a punt returner he makes things happen. He will also battle for the nickel spot right away as our young CBs haven't developed like they should.
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
ATL time is up here in five minutes or so...maybe we should start looking at who to vote for.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
So that's Antonio Perkins to GB and Wallace to ATL. Front page needs to be updated - it has Wallace to GB and Perkins absent....
Football Jones
Footballguy
i'm here...i'll have my pick in a little bit
Football Jones
Footballguy
crap...got busy & forgot...i'll have it in a few
Football Jones
Footballguy
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
3.91: Ray Willis, G/T, Florida State
I tried to take him with my first pick of the 3rd round, but missed the deadline & you guys took Wilkerson for me (which was fine). I wanted the first day to be about offense. My goals were to get a couple of playmakers & a couple of OL. I feel like I suceeded with Ronnie Brown/Matt Jones & Ben Wilkerson/Ray Willis.
Willis isn't normally projected at G, but after the Wilkerson pick, I wanted to draft the best RG prospect & that was Ray Willis. He'll easily make the transition to G, IMO. Willis is very strong & a good technician. I believe he'll play at a high level for a long time.
3.91: Ray Willis, G/T, Florida State
I tried to take him with my first pick of the 3rd round, but missed the deadline & you guys took Wilkerson for me (which was fine). I wanted the first day to be about offense. My goals were to get a couple of playmakers & a couple of OL. I feel like I suceeded with Ronnie Brown/Matt Jones & Ben Wilkerson/Ray Willis.
Willis isn't normally projected at G, but after the Wilkerson pick, I wanted to draft the best RG prospect & that was Ray Willis. He'll easily make the transition to G, IMO. Willis is very strong & a good technician. I believe he'll play at a high level for a long time.
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Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Ready with the Steelers pick pending Indianapolis - ColtsFreak is here, so hopefully we will have a pick shortly.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
.....and just like that, he's gone. Wishful thinking, I guess.
ColtsFreak
Footballguy
Colts Select Jason Jefferson DT Wisconsin
7 Minnesota Cedric Benson RB TEX
18 Minnesota Mark Clayton WR OU
37 Minnesota Kevin Burnett LB TENN
49 Minnesota Mike Nugent K OSU
80 Minnesota Chris Kemoeatu OG Utah
Mike Tice quote as saying "Benson will give us RB that can ran the Football 20-25 game. This giving a balanced offense with C-Pep passing to Nate, Taylor and Clayton all 3 have enough speed to make that special play. Burnett cost a lot to to secure. (Bennett,4th and 5th) That's how much we think of this guy. He might be better then DJ! I truely feel that this draft will be made or brake on how Brunett and Nugent work out for us. Kemoeatu will have chance to back up both guard spots this year."
Reporter: Lot's of fans are disappointed that you did not take a defense of player in the 1st round?
I felt that we have improved or defense enough via FA. On top of that Burnett is 1st round talent and was the SOD. Do not be surprised if add more depth to the team via FA after the June 1st cuts.
How could you pass up a play maker like Edwards when traded your only other play maker in Randy Moss?
What your telling me that Burlson, Benson and Clayton are not play makers on Offense? D. Shapper and Smoot are not play makers on defense. Sounds to me like we have 5 play makes not just 1!
Do you think you can win the NFC North?
You think we traded Randy Moss to with the NFC North? We traded Randy Moss to win the Super Bowl
Can we get tickets for that super bowl from you?
You guys are incredible!!! This interview is over.
Local Vikings insider:
Man the media going to take cheep shots at Mike all year. I hope it does not over shadow the Vikings overhaul in to a legitimate Super bowl contender.
Pos...............................................Grade
QB: Pepper and Johnson...............A......... Great Starter and Great Backup
RB: Benson,Osmith,Moore,Moe.........A......... Still a Ton of Depth and New workhorse in the house
WR: Nate,Taylor,Clayton,Robinson.........B......... No Randy but still enough fire power to get the job done.
TE: Wiggins and Jimmy...................B.........Great Block Catch Combo
OL: OG is the ?.............................B......... Can Goldburg,Liwinski and Kemoeatu man the OG spots?
DL: Scott and Udze in 2nd year......... B+......... With Johnstone playing passing downs this line is top notch.
LB: Harris,Cowart,Burnett......... B- ......... This is big upgrade with Henderson and Thomas as backups.
DB: Smoot,Winfield,Williams ......... B+ ......... 2 Very good corners with good to very good nickel guy.
S : Shaper and Cory C. ......... B-......... Both are getting older. But they should be beter then last
K : Nuggent ......................... B ......... Rookie kickers need a year to ajust.
P : Bennet ........................ B ......... Needs to get back to his pro bowl form.
Overall : Offense is A- and Defense is B. Last year I would have put Phily in the category with NE benign a B+ and B+, Pitt c+ and A. So this puts MN in top 4 teams in the NFL.
Predictions: 12-4 NFC Championship game loss to the Eagles 24-23 as Nugget miss 1st big kick as rookie.
18 Minnesota Mark Clayton WR OU
37 Minnesota Kevin Burnett LB TENN
49 Minnesota Mike Nugent K OSU
80 Minnesota Chris Kemoeatu OG Utah
Mike Tice quote as saying "Benson will give us RB that can ran the Football 20-25 game. This giving a balanced offense with C-Pep passing to Nate, Taylor and Clayton all 3 have enough speed to make that special play. Burnett cost a lot to to secure. (Bennett,4th and 5th) That's how much we think of this guy. He might be better then DJ! I truely feel that this draft will be made or brake on how Brunett and Nugent work out for us. Kemoeatu will have chance to back up both guard spots this year."
Reporter: Lot's of fans are disappointed that you did not take a defense of player in the 1st round?
I felt that we have improved or defense enough via FA. On top of that Burnett is 1st round talent and was the SOD. Do not be surprised if add more depth to the team via FA after the June 1st cuts.
How could you pass up a play maker like Edwards when traded your only other play maker in Randy Moss?
What your telling me that Burlson, Benson and Clayton are not play makers on Offense? D. Shapper and Smoot are not play makers on defense. Sounds to me like we have 5 play makes not just 1!
Do you think you can win the NFC North?
You think we traded Randy Moss to with the NFC North? We traded Randy Moss to win the Super Bowl
Can we get tickets for that super bowl from you?
You guys are incredible!!! This interview is over.
Local Vikings insider:
Man the media going to take cheep shots at Mike all year. I hope it does not over shadow the Vikings overhaul in to a legitimate Super bowl contender.
Pos...............................................Grade
QB: Pepper and Johnson...............A......... Great Starter and Great Backup
RB: Benson,Osmith,Moore,Moe.........A......... Still a Ton of Depth and New workhorse in the house
WR: Nate,Taylor,Clayton,Robinson.........B......... No Randy but still enough fire power to get the job done.
TE: Wiggins and Jimmy...................B.........Great Block Catch Combo
OL: OG is the ?.............................B......... Can Goldburg,Liwinski and Kemoeatu man the OG spots?
DL: Scott and Udze in 2nd year......... B+......... With Johnstone playing passing downs this line is top notch.
LB: Harris,Cowart,Burnett......... B- ......... This is big upgrade with Henderson and Thomas as backups.
DB: Smoot,Winfield,Williams ......... B+ ......... 2 Very good corners with good to very good nickel guy.
S : Shaper and Cory C. ......... B-......... Both are getting older. But they should be beter then last
K : Nuggent ......................... B ......... Rookie kickers need a year to ajust.
P : Bennet ........................ B ......... Needs to get back to his pro bowl form.
Overall : Offense is A- and Defense is B. Last year I would have put Phily in the category with NE benign a B+ and B+, Pitt c+ and A. So this puts MN in top 4 teams in the NFL.
Predictions: 12-4 NFC Championship game loss to the Eagles 24-23 as Nugget miss 1st big kick as rookie.
Chaos
Footballguy
Probably need to go WR here with Freddie X likely gone and TO starting to shoot off. McMullen and Greg Lewis are not the backups you like to see with STinkston.
So PHI selects Mark Bradley, WR OK
PHI is aggressively seeking to move up in the 4th round. If you are interested at all lets discuss it!!!!
So PHI selects Mark Bradley, WR OK
PHI is aggressively seeking to move up in the 4th round. If you are interested at all lets discuss it!!!!
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Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Write-up on Mathis....
Pick #93 Jerome Mathis, WR, Hampton
The Steelers run-oriented offense stalls when an adequate deep threat to stretch the field is missing. This is where Burress' value was to the offense, more so than in his numbers. Randle-El is more quick than fast, and isn't going to command double teams down the field. Mathis would. The guy is not big, at 5' 11" 185 lbs, but he is fast. And I mean, greasy fast, as Mickey Goldmill would say. He ran a legitimate 4.31 at the combine, one of the fastest times ever recorded. He is clearly raw, and drops too many balls, but would be able to contribute immediately as a 4th receiver and on special teams, and has as much upside as any receiver in this draft. He could potentially be a Joe Horn/Lee Evans type who could go for 1300 and 9 TDs every year. This is far from a sure thing, but in round 3, we can take a shot. With Ward, Randle-El, and Wilson in the fold, Mathis could spend a year learning the game and working on his route-running and hands before being thrown into the fire in a full-time role.
Some numbers to show how raw but talented this guy is. Granted, this is against lower-level competition, but still.....
For his CAREER at Hampton, he averaged 26.4 yards per catch and 9.1 yards per carry. Averaged 35.5 yards per return taking kicks back his senior year and returned 5 for TDs. Averaged 30 yards per catch his senior year and had 9 TDs on 29 receptions. For his career, he had only 136 touches (rushing and receiving) and scored 24 TDs. Incredibly raw, but certainly a dynamic playmaker.
Pick #93 Jerome Mathis, WR, Hampton
The Steelers run-oriented offense stalls when an adequate deep threat to stretch the field is missing. This is where Burress' value was to the offense, more so than in his numbers. Randle-El is more quick than fast, and isn't going to command double teams down the field. Mathis would. The guy is not big, at 5' 11" 185 lbs, but he is fast. And I mean, greasy fast, as Mickey Goldmill would say. He ran a legitimate 4.31 at the combine, one of the fastest times ever recorded. He is clearly raw, and drops too many balls, but would be able to contribute immediately as a 4th receiver and on special teams, and has as much upside as any receiver in this draft. He could potentially be a Joe Horn/Lee Evans type who could go for 1300 and 9 TDs every year. This is far from a sure thing, but in round 3, we can take a shot. With Ward, Randle-El, and Wilson in the fold, Mathis could spend a year learning the game and working on his route-running and hands before being thrown into the fire in a full-time role.
Some numbers to show how raw but talented this guy is. Granted, this is against lower-level competition, but still.....
For his CAREER at Hampton, he averaged 26.4 yards per catch and 9.1 yards per carry. Averaged 35.5 yards per return taking kicks back his senior year and returned 5 for TDs. Averaged 30 yards per catch his senior year and had 9 TDs on 29 receptions. For his career, he had only 136 touches (rushing and receiving) and scored 24 TDs. Incredibly raw, but certainly a dynamic playmaker.
Steel Dillo
Footballguy
As a fellow Steeler addict, I'd be pretty happy if the real draft went this way. Mathis in the 3rd would be a steal.My ideal draft would have one one the top rated 3-4 type DEs falling to us at 30, OG, Chris Keamatu in the 2nd & Mathis in the 3rd.
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Evilgrin 72
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Had Shaun Cody been there at #30 - this is EXACTLY how my draft would have gone.
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