6 - 1 x 0 + 2 ÷ 2 = ? (1 Viewer)

[Zow]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

:facepalm:

 

[Zow]

In reality you usually have some context about why you're performing the maths...I can't think of an on the job application where I've just been provided a random string of numbers and operations

Exactly.

And since I'm not a math homo...if someone hands me something like "6-1x0+2/2 = ?" I'm going to "read" it as "six minus one...times zero...plus two...divided by 2". If you want parenthesis and brackets and #### put them in there.

It's really not that hard.

 

[Hilts]

We need to get MoP in here to explain math to Tim.

 

[GregR]

Ask an engineer and he'll say it equals 7.

Ask a geologist and he'll say it's around 7.

Ask a geophysicist and he'll ask back quietly, "What do you want it to equal?"

 

[jon_mx]

Ask an engineer and he'll say it equals 7.

Ask a geologist and he'll say it's around 7.

Ask a geophysicist and he'll ask back quietly, "What do you want it to equal?"

I thought that was the accountant.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Ask an engineer and he'll say it equals 7.

Ask a geologist and he'll say it's around 7.

Ask a geophysicist and he'll ask back quietly, "What do you want it to equal?"

I thought that was the accountant.

When does a person decide to become an accountant?

When he realises he doesn't have the charisma to succeed as an undertaker.

 

[jon_mx]

If you used parenthesis to define the order of every operation, a complex equation would have so many it would make the equation much more confusing and trying to simplify algebraic equations more difficult. Establishing certain rules with implied parentheses makes expressions simpler

 

[RUSF18]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

You know, left-to-right is an order of operation too.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOyG_6E0m60

 

[jon_mx]

The narrative was actually lousy and not correct.

 

[fantasycurse42]

In reality you usually have some context about why you're performing the maths...I can't think of an on the job application where I've just been provided a random string of numbers and operations

I was actually asked the square root of 7 at an interview. The job had nothing to do with math at all. I said 2.75 very quickly which was close and impressed the interviewer, IIRC it is something like 2.64.

I asked why and his response was to see my thought process and how I think on my feet.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

waffles, tasty waffles!

 

[Fennis]

In reality you usually have some context about why you're performing the maths...I can't think of an on the job application where I've just been provided a random string of numbers and operations

I was actually asked the square root of 7 at an interview. The job had nothing to do with math at all. I said 2.75 very quickly which was close and impressed the interviewer, IIRC it is something like 2.64.

I asked why and his response was to see my thought process and how I think on my feet.

that didn't show your thought process. It showed your ability to do math quickly or perhaps test your memory.

 

[jon_mx]

I thought Fennis was going to answer the number of Ebola cases in the US.

 

[timschochet]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

Jesus dude.

So Jesus wanted us to have an order or operations? Was that in the Gospel?

 

[jon_mx]

In reality you usually have some context about why you're performing the maths...I can't think of an on the job application where I've just been provided a random string of numbers and operations

I was actually asked the square root of 7 at an interview. The job had nothing to do with math at all. I said 2.75 very quickly which was close and impressed the interviewer, IIRC it is something like 2.64.

I asked why and his response was to see my thought process and how I think on my feet.

that didn't show your thought process. It showed your ability to do math quickly or perhaps test your memory.

It shows how someone responds when asked a question they did not expect. Kind of an interesting tactic, not sure how effective it would be. I suppose if someone got upset it would kind of raise some red flags.

 

[fantasycurse42]

In reality you usually have some context about why you're performing the maths...I can't think of an on the job application where I've just been provided a random string of numbers and operations

I was actually asked the square root of 7 at an interview. The job had nothing to do with math at all. I said 2.75 very quickly which was close and impressed the interviewer, IIRC it is something like 2.64.I asked why and his response was to see my thought process and how I think on my feet.

that didn't show your thought process. It showed your ability to do math quickly or perhaps test your memory.

The question came out of left field... Tell me about your key responsibilities here, okay great... What's the square root of 7? It just catches you off guard.

 

[Tom Servo]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

Jesus dude.

So Jesus wanted us to have an order or operations? Was that in the Gospel?

 

[jon_mx]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

Jesus dude.

So Jesus wanted us to have an order or operations? Was that in the Gospel?

Of course. We are commanded to be fruitful and multiply. Not to add or subtract. So naturally, multiplication is the first priority in doing operations.

 

[Ilov80s]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

Jesus dude.

So Jesus wanted us to have an order or operations? Was that in the Gospel?

Of course. We are commanded to be fruitful and multiply. Not to add or subtract. So naturally, multiplication is the first priority in doing operations.

Except it isn't first. It's tied for third with division.

 

[fatness]

possible answers

a. lapis lazuli

b. the Magna Carta

c. Eli Whitney

d. existentialism

e. some of the above

I'll go with 'e'.

 

[jon_mx]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

Jesus dude.

So Jesus wanted us to have an order or operations? Was that in the Gospel?

Of course. We are commanded to be fruitful and multiply. Not to add or subtract. So naturally, multiplication is the first priority in doing operations.

Except it isn't first. It's tied for third with division.

Exponents were not invented during Jesus's time. They are an ugly mutation of multiplication and are thus a sin. What kind of heathen are you!

 

[MC Gas Money]

My 6th grader looked at it for a minute and nailed it. When I showed him the PEMDAS chart, he changed Parenthesis to groups for Parenthesis, Brackets, Absolute Value, etc.

He then said "That was easy! Was just doing that at school."

Thats the problem adults have. Its not that everyone is as bad at math as it seems its just that barely any of us have had to use anything beyond the basics for years. When I took a college placement test It took a bit to remember most of the stuff beyond the basics.

 

[Ned]

Tim has them jumping in the boat. Bunch of suckers in here.

 

[MC Gas Money]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

Jesus dude.

So Jesus wanted us to have an order or operations? Was that in the Gospel?

Of course. We are commanded to be fruitful and multiply. Not to add or subtract. So naturally, multiplication is the first priority in doing operations.

Christians have done quite a bit of subtraction over the years.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

all ya all crack me up...sum funny #### up in here

 

[squidrope]

7

 

[Riversco]

Is this the thread where we argue with Tim on how math should be done?

 

[MaxThreshold]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

Jesus dude.

So Jesus wanted us to have an order or operations? Was that in the Gospel?

Of course. We are commanded to be fruitful and multiply. Not to add or subtract. So naturally, multiplication is the first priority in doing operations.

Christians have done quite a bit of subtraction over the years.

Yeah, but just to heathens.

 

[Mister CIA]

4 - www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZfpwfQ58Ds

 

[hagmania]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

Jesus dude.

So Jesus wanted us to have an order or operations? Was that in the Gospel?

You're just compounding the inherent racism in your first comment, Tim. Jesus used Aramaic, which was written right to left. So his "order of operations" would be different than yours in your simplistic "can't we all just go left to right" proposal.

Hebrew also, thus my comment.

 

[shadyridr]

Hitler does math left to right and says #### PEMDAS

 

[Jim11]

Haven't read the whole thread, probably already noted...but the correct answer is 7...do multiplication & division first in absence of parentheses.

 

[NutterButter]

Has anyone said 7 yet?

 

[timschochet]

Any of you guys like that movie with Kevin Spacey about the serial killer? It's a few decades old, but still pretty good.

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

Until you get to more advanced match (like, say, 6th grade algebra) at which point it's much simpler to have an order of operations.

6x² + 12x + 36 ≠ ((6x)² + 12)x + 36

Those equations do equal when x=0

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Has anyone said 7 yet?

Seven, seven-eleven, seven-elevenSeven even back do' Lil' Joe

 

[jon_mx]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

Jesus dude.

So Jesus wanted us to have an order or operations? Was that in the Gospel?

Of course. We are commanded to be fruitful and multiply. Not to add or subtract. So naturally, multiplication is the first priority in doing operations.

Christians have done quite a bit of subtraction over the years.

In your case that is addition by subtraction.

 

[shuke]

My 6th grader looked at it for a minute and nailed it. When I showed him the PEMDAS chart, he changed Parenthesis to groups for Parenthesis, Brackets, Absolute Value, etc.

He then said "That was easy! Was just doing that at school."

Thats the problem adults have. Its not that everyone is as bad at math as it seems its just that barely any of us have had to use anything beyond the basics for years. When I took a college placement test It took a bit to remember most of the stuff beyond the basics.

This is about as "basic" as it gets.

 

[MC Gas Money]

My 6th grader looked at it for a minute and nailed it. When I showed him the PEMDAS chart, he changed Parenthesis to groups for Parenthesis, Brackets, Absolute Value, etc.

He then said "That was easy! Was just doing that at school."

Thats the problem adults have. Its not that everyone is as bad at math as it seems its just that barely any of us have had to use anything beyond the basics for years. When I took a college placement test It took a bit to remember most of the stuff beyond the basics.

This is about as "basic" as it gets.

No #### but I hadnt done anything like algebra for ten years.

I have an IQ of 176. It only took a few minutes to remember the formulas before I aced it.

 

[shuke]

My 6th grader looked at it for a minute and nailed it. When I showed him the PEMDAS chart, he changed Parenthesis to groups for Parenthesis, Brackets, Absolute Value, etc.

He then said "That was easy! Was just doing that at school."

Thats the problem adults have. Its not that everyone is as bad at math as it seems its just that barely any of us have had to use anything beyond the basics for years. When I took a college placement test It took a bit to remember most of the stuff beyond the basics.

This is about as "basic" as it gets.

No #### but I hadnt done anything like algebra for ten years.

I have an IQ of 176. It only took a few minutes to remember the formulas before I aced it.

This isn't algebra. This is fourth grade math.

 

[MC Gas Money]

My 6th grader looked at it for a minute and nailed it. When I showed him the PEMDAS chart, he changed Parenthesis to groups for Parenthesis, Brackets, Absolute Value, etc.

He then said "That was easy! Was just doing that at school."

Thats the problem adults have. Its not that everyone is as bad at math as it seems its just that barely any of us have had to use anything beyond the basics for years. When I took a college placement test It took a bit to remember most of the stuff beyond the basics.

This is about as "basic" as it gets.

No #### but I hadnt done anything like algebra for ten years.I have an IQ of 176. It only took a few minutes to remember the formulas before I aced it.

This isn't algebra. This is fourth grade math.

There was some algebra as I recall. Doesnt matter because you wouldnt remember something immediately that you havent done in 10 years.

If I put a naked woman in front of you it would take you a minute or two to remember where to stick it.

 

[shuke]

Sure thing, 176.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.

If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

 

[Zow]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.

If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

 

[MC Gas Money]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

Im glad you appreciated them.

Im considering revamping the series if there is interest.

 

[shuke]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.

If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

Stop assuming you know the first ####ing thing about me. You've jumped to a number of conclusions here, all of which any intelligent person wouldn't.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

It is estimated that Stephen Hawking has an IQ of 160.

 

[shuke]

It is estimated that Stephen Hawking has an IQ of 160.

So did Einstein. But neither of those guys could draw comic penises.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

Stop assuming you know the first ####ing thing about me. You've jumped to a number of conclusions here, all of which any intelligent person wouldn't.

Maybe because you tried to insult me?

I made an emotionally based assumption that you are a bad person. Emotion or behavior has nothing to do with IQ either.

Artistic geniuses tend to have intense emotional responses.

You made assumptions about my intelligence based on nothing relevant.