6 - 1 x 0 + 2 ÷ 2 = ? (1 Viewer)

[Fennis]

My IQ is 177

 

[MC Gas Money]

My IQ is 177

Im glad there is someone else here who understands the frustration of dealing with the less evolved and ordinary.

 

[tonydead]

Hmmm, guess I should have written it out instead of doing it in my head.

Or we could just get jon_mx in here to get the answer wrong three times, stumble upon the right answer and tell everyone why he's the best at math.

Iol

 

[hagmania]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.

If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

I'm sorry I underestimated you. Were you ever Indigo tested?

 

[RUSF18]

Any of you guys like that movie with Kevin Spacey about the serial killer? It's a few decades old, but still pretty good.

The Usual Suspects is not "pretty good", it's amazing.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

I'm sorry I underestimated you. Were you ever Indigo tested?

no but I have all the traits and was born in the 80's

 

[Tom Servo]

It is estimated that Stephen Hawking has an IQ of 160.

The fact that he resides in an IQ class with MC Gasbag and MOP is truly cringe worthy. If you'll excuse me, I'm going to jump off a bridge.

 

[swirvenirvin]

crap i got 1

 

[Peyton Marino]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

bruh

 

[loser]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

I'm sorry I underestimated you. Were you ever Indigo tested?

Is this for lesbian geniuses?

 

[jon_mx]

The only IQ test MC took was for insanity.

 

[rockaction]

I got five. Can anybody tell me why the PEMDAS doesn't hold and addition and subtraction apparently go left to right, regardless of order. Shouldn't it just be PEMD then?

Nope, got it. But this isn't the notation everybody is using. Shouldn't the actual notation really be 6 + ((-1) *0)) + 2/2 = (solution)?

 

[Sinn Fein]

How does any adult get this wrong?

 

[The Duff Man]

Posting Simple Math Equation in FFA = 4 Pages Easily

 

[rockaction]

How does any adult get this wrong?

It's not just non-intuitive, it doesn't even fit the acronym that everybody learned in grade school. You have to distribute the negative and draw your own parentheticals.

6 - (1*0) + (2/2) = 5

6 + (-1*0) + (2/2) = 7

 

[jon_mx]

How does any adult get this wrong?

It's not just non-intuitive, it doesn't even fit the acronym that everybody learned in grade school. You have to distribute the negative and draw your own parentheticals.

6 - (1*0) + (2/2) = 5

6 + (-1*0) + (2/2) = 7

The only way to get 5 is if you added another set of parenthesis.

 

[rockaction]

How does any adult get this wrong?

It's not just non-intuitive, it doesn't even fit the acronym that everybody learned in grade school. You have to distribute the negative and draw your own parentheticals.

6 - (1*0) + (2/2) = 5

6 + (-1*0) + (2/2) = 7

The only way to get 5 is if you added another set of parenthesis.

I get that it's incorrect, and that you're saying that 6- ((1*0) + 2/2)) is what you need to get five. By why all of the sudden, when faced with addition and subtraction, we start working left to right instead of using PEMDAS and adding 1*0 + 2/2?

In other words, it seems that PEMDAS is just a guide, and you should work left to right when faced with addition and subtraction?

Is this an accurate assessment. In other words, I still think the second notation and distributing the negative to the one by means of multiplication is how it should be notated.

Or I'm dreaming and just dead wrong.

eta* I got my answer. There's a qualification that says when ranked equally, go left to right.

P

E

M or D (left to right equally)

A or S (left to right equally)

Thanks.

 

[jon_mx]

How does any adult get this wrong?

It's not just non-intuitive, it doesn't even fit the acronym that everybody learned in grade school. You have to distribute the negative and draw your own parentheticals.

6 - (1*0) + (2/2) = 5

6 + (-1*0) + (2/2) = 7

The only way to get 5 is if you added another set of parenthesis.

I get that it's incorrect, and that you're saying that 6- ((1*0) + 2/2)) is what you need to get five. By why all of the sudden, when faced with addition and subtraction, we start working left to right instead of using PEMDAS and adding 1*0 + 2/2?

In other words, it seems that PEMDAS is just a guide, and you should work left to right when faced with addition and subtraction?

Is this an accurate assessment. In other words, I still think the second notation and distributing the negative to the one by means of multiplication is how it should be notated.

Or I'm dreaming and just dead wrong.

eta* I got my answer. There's a qualification that says when ranked equally, go left to right.

P

E

M or D (left to right equally)

A or S (left to right equally)

Thanks.

The qualification is that addition is commutative, not subtraction.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

6 - (1*0) + (2/2) = 5

You may want to check that again.

 

[rockaction]

How does any adult get this wrong?

It's not just non-intuitive, it doesn't even fit the acronym that everybody learned in grade school. You have to distribute the negative and draw your own parentheticals.

6 - (1*0) + (2/2) = 5

6 + (-1*0) + (2/2) = 7

The only way to get 5 is if you added another set of parenthesis.

I get that it's incorrect, and that you're saying that 6- ((1*0) + 2/2)) is what you need to get five. By why all of the sudden, when faced with addition and subtraction, we start working left to right instead of using PEMDAS and adding 1*0 + 2/2?

In other words, it seems that PEMDAS is just a guide, and you should work left to right when faced with addition and subtraction?

Is this an accurate assessment. In other words, I still think the second notation and distributing the negative to the one by means of multiplication is how it should be notated.

Or I'm dreaming and just dead wrong.

eta* I got my answer. There's a qualification that says when ranked equally, go left to right.

P

E

M or D (left to right equally)

A or S (left to right equally)

Thanks.

The qualification is that addition is commutative, not subtraction.

Got it. I think the way I was notating it in the second instance might be correct.

6 - (1*0) + (2/2) = 5

You may want to check that again.

I think I've seen the error of my ways. jon_mx pointed this out in that last post.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

6 - (1*0) + (2/2) = 5

You may want to check that again.

I think I've seen the error of my ways. jon_mx pointed this out in that last post.

Oh, I see what you were doing.

6 - (1*0) + (2/2)

Do the stuff in parentheses first:

6 - (0) + (1)

Addition comes before subtraction:

6 - 1 = 5

I guess that makes sense if you treat each component of PEMDAS sequentially, but as you've realized it's really more like P->E-&gtMD)-&gtAS).

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

It is estimated that Stephen Hawking has an IQ of 160.

The fact that he resides in an IQ class with MC Gasbag and MOP is truly cringe worthy. If you'll excuse me, I'm going to jump off a bridge.

Assuming Hawking doesn't post with an alias, I think their board posts have proven to be about equally intelligent,

 

[MC Gas Money]

The only IQ test MC took was for insanity.

You dont know what insanity means anymore than shuke knows what an IQ is.

 

[MC Gas Money]

It is estimated that Stephen Hawking has an IQ of 160.

The fact that he resides in an IQ class with MC Gasbag and MOP is truly cringe worthy. If you'll excuse me, I'm going to jump off a bridge.

Lower intelligence is preferable to you?

Hawking is certainly well above 160. He probably just had an off day.

 

[shuke]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

Stop assuming you know the first ####ing thing about me. You've jumped to a number of conclusions here, all of which any intelligent person wouldn't.

Maybe because you tried to insult me?

Incorrect.

 

[Peyton Marino]

these threads never fail to deliver.

 

[Harry Manback]

My IQ is 48. I bet you folks feel dumb now.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

Stop assuming you know the first ####ing thing about me. You've jumped to a number of conclusions here, all of which any intelligent person wouldn't.

Maybe because you tried to insult me?

Incorrect.

How did you think it would come across?

 

[MC Gas Money]

My IQ is 48. I bet you folks feel dumb now.

If that were true you wouldnt even be able to turn on a computer let alone type a sentence.

 

[jhib]

How does any adult get this wrong?

It's not just non-intuitive, it doesn't even fit the acronym that everybody learned in grade school. You have to distribute the negative and draw your own parentheticals.

6 - (1*0) + (2/2) = 5

6 + (-1*0) + (2/2) = 7

The only way to get 5 is if you added another set of parenthesis.

I get that it's incorrect, and that you're saying that 6- ((1*0) + 2/2)) is what you need to get five. By why all of the sudden, when faced with addition and subtraction, we start working left to right instead of using PEMDAS and adding 1*0 + 2/2?

In other words, it seems that PEMDAS is just a guide, and you should work left to right when faced with addition and subtraction?

Is this an accurate assessment. In other words, I still think the second notation and distributing the negative to the one by means of multiplication is how it should be notated.

Or I'm dreaming and just dead wrong.

eta* I got my answer. There's a qualification that says when ranked equally, go left to right.

P

E

M or D (left to right equally)

A or S (left to right equally)

Thanks.

The qualification is that addition is commutative, not subtraction.

Got it. I think the way I was notating it in the second instance might be correct.

6 - (1*0) + (2/2) = 5

You may want to check that again.

I think I've seen the error of my ways. jon_mx pointed this out in that last post.

This is one of the reason a lot of kids are learning GEMS (Grouping Exponents Multiplication/Division Subtraction/Addition) now instead of PEMDAS.

It makes it more clear that multiplication & division are basically the same thing as are addition & subtraction, so one doesn't have priority over the other and should be done left to right. Of course, GEMS isn't perfect, either, since the kids need to know division and addition are in there, just like they need to know M&D are together and A&S are together in PEMDAS.

But grouping is more inclusive than parentheses and I guess they like that gems is a real word.

 

[mquinnjr]

7

 

[jon_mx]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

Stop assuming you know the first ####ing thing about me. You've jumped to a number of conclusions here, all of which any intelligent person wouldn't.

Maybe because you tried to insult me?

Incorrect.

How did you think it would come across?

Just curious, by what measure did you come to believe you have an IQ of 176? Was this some 12-question online test you took multiple times?

 

[MC Gas Money]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

Stop assuming you know the first ####ing thing about me. You've jumped to a number of conclusions here, all of which any intelligent person wouldn't.

Maybe because you tried to insult me?

Incorrect.

How did you think it would come across?

Just curious, by what measure did you come to believe you have an IQ of 176? Was this some 12-question online test you took multiple times?

I was tested when I was 10. I was a huge "discipline" problem in school and given a battery of tests to depermine what to do with me after being expelled from several schools.

Then they put me in a gifted program and I was expelled from that in 2 years.

 

[hagmania]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

I'm sorry I underestimated you. Were you ever Indigo tested?

no but I have all the traits and was born in the 80's

Indeed. You'll have to forgive the lesser of us then. We really just don't operate on the same planes of existence.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

I'm sorry I underestimated you. Were you ever Indigo tested?

no but I have all the traits and was born in the 80's

Indeed. You'll have to forgive the lesser of us then. We really just don't operate on the same planes of existence.

I know. I was once very forgiving and understanding but since nobody did the same for me im just consumed with tremendous contempt and hatred.

 

[jon_mx]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

Stop assuming you know the first ####ing thing about me. You've jumped to a number of conclusions here, all of which any intelligent person wouldn't.

Maybe because you tried to insult me?

Incorrect.

How did you think it would come across?

Just curious, by what measure did you come to believe you have an IQ of 176? Was this some 12-question online test you took multiple times?

I was tested when I was 10. I was a huge "discipline" problem in school and given a battery of tests to depermine what to do with me after being expelled from several schools.

Then they put me in a gifted program and I was expelled from that in 2 years.

So the test proved to be wrong. You do realize the most common IQ tests do not even go that high.

 

[Village Idiot]

So the rule is to assume parenthesis even if there aren't parenthesis? I didn't realize this. (Or at least if I learned it in math I've forgotten it.) I would have gotten that wrong.

wat?

I speak fluent Tim.He said he forgot about order of operation when doing "stuff" like this.

And UCLA still has a shot to get into the final 4 if every other school disbands their football teams soon.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

I know a lot of people laughed at tim for this, but did anyone really answer it? We use PEMDAS. Why? Why not left-to-right-except-when-there-are-parentheses, as tim suggested?

In reality, it's just a matter of convention. We use PEMDAS because that's what we've all agreed to do, just like -52 = -25 because that's what we've all (hopefully, finally) agreed that it's equal to. Switching from PEMDAS to something else wouldn't destroy the commutative property, as someone suggested earlier. It's just a convention for communicating in a way that everyone understands. If we all agreed to write math formulas in left-to-right format, instead of PEMDAS, the commutative property of addition and multiplication would still hold. We'd just need to write our formulas in a different order to express the same thing.

We call the sky "blue." In Spain, they call it "azul" - the sky hasn't fallen there, they've just adopted a different convention for communicating. When someone wants to express the color of the sky, there's nothing inherent in the letters "B", "L", "U", and "E" that conveys it. English-speakers just agreed that when you put those shapes together, in that order, it means something.

 

[moleculo]

it's my belief that those who feel the need to cite their own measurables do so out of insecurity, whether that be how fast they can run, how much they can bench, or how high their IQ is.

Truly gifted people don't need others to acknowledge they are gifted.

 

[Zow]

It is estimated that Stephen Hawking has an IQ of 160.

Well that's a bad comparison that guy can't even articulate a sentence.

 

[moleculo]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

I know a lot of people laughed at tim for this, but did anyone really answer it? We use PEMDAS. Why? Why not left-to-right-except-when-there-are-parentheses, as tim suggested?

In reality, it's just a matter of convention. We use PEMDAS because that's what we've all agreed to do, just like -52 = -25 because that's what we've all (hopefully, finally) agreed that it's equal to. Switching from PEMDAS to something else wouldn't destroy the commutative property, as someone suggested earlier. It's just a convention for communicating in a way that everyone understands. If we all agreed to write math formulas in left-to-right format, instead of PEMDAS, the commutative property of addition and multiplication would still hold. We'd just need to write our formulas in a different order to express the same thing.

We call the sky "blue." In Spain, they call it "azul" - the sky hasn't fallen there, they've just adopted a different convention for communicating. When someone wants to express the color of the sky, there's nothing inherent in the letters "B", "L", "U", and "E" that conveys it. English-speakers just agreed that when you put those shapes together, in that order, it means something.

good explanation, but still doesn't explain why. I believe it's because if you are dealing with algebraic variables and manipulating expressions symbolically, PEMDAS makes a lot of sense.

However, I could see an argument that a left to right convention fits the modern world better - entering expressions into excel or C++ or whatever might be easier done if a left-to-right convention were adopted.

Of course, we can't have two conventions because that's how mistakes are made. so, we stick with the original convention that is centuries old.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

Stop assuming you know the first ####ing thing about me. You've jumped to a number of conclusions here, all of which any intelligent person wouldn't.

Maybe because you tried to insult me?

Incorrect.

How did you think it would come across?

Just curious, by what measure did you come to believe you have an IQ of 176? Was this some 12-question online test you took multiple times?

I was tested when I was 10. I was a huge "discipline" problem in school and given a battery of tests to depermine what to do with me after being expelled from several schools.

Then they put me in a gifted program and I was expelled from that in 2 years.

So the test proved to be wrong. You do realize the most common IQ tests do not even go that high.

This one went to 11

 

[MC Gas Money]

it's my belief that those who feel the need to cite their own measurables do so out of insecurity, whether that be how fast they can run, how much they can bench, or how high their IQ is.

Truly gifted people don't need others to acknowledge they are gifted.

Insecurity is what pushes them to succeed. Most are extremely insecure and never happy with anything they produce. They criticize themselves more than anyone.

I only ever brought it up when my intelligence was questioned. Im prepared to prove it by taking another test if anyone here works in that area.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

I know a lot of people laughed at tim for this, but did anyone really answer it? We use PEMDAS. Why? Why not left-to-right-except-when-there-are-parentheses, as tim suggested?

In reality, it's just a matter of convention. We use PEMDAS because that's what we've all agreed to do, just like -52 = -25 because that's what we've all (hopefully, finally) agreed that it's equal to. Switching from PEMDAS to something else wouldn't destroy the commutative property, as someone suggested earlier. It's just a convention for communicating in a way that everyone understands. If we all agreed to write math formulas in left-to-right format, instead of PEMDAS, the commutative property of addition and multiplication would still hold. We'd just need to write our formulas in a different order to express the same thing.

We call the sky "blue." In Spain, they call it "azul" - the sky hasn't fallen there, they've just adopted a different convention for communicating. When someone wants to express the color of the sky, there's nothing inherent in the letters "B", "L", "U", and "E" that conveys it. English-speakers just agreed that when you put those shapes together, in that order, it means something.

This is all true and now that we've all agreed on the convention we can't switch it. But if we could start over, would simple left to right be a better system? It corresponds more closely to the way we read, so our minds are more accustomed to it. I can't think of a situation where it would be worse.

 

[jon_mx]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

I know a lot of people laughed at tim for this, but did anyone really answer it? We use PEMDAS. Why? Why not left-to-right-except-when-there-are-parentheses, as tim suggested?

In reality, it's just a matter of convention. We use PEMDAS because that's what we've all agreed to do, just like -52 = -25 because that's what we've all (hopefully, finally) agreed that it's equal to. Switching from PEMDAS to something else wouldn't destroy the commutative property, as someone suggested earlier. It's just a convention for communicating in a way that everyone understands. If we all agreed to write math formulas in left-to-right format, instead of PEMDAS, the commutative property of addition and multiplication would still hold. We'd just need to write our formulas in a different order to express the same thing.

We call the sky "blue." In Spain, they call it "azul" - the sky hasn't fallen there, they've just adopted a different convention for communicating. When someone wants to express the color of the sky, there's nothing inherent in the letters "B", "L", "U", and "E" that conveys it. English-speakers just agreed that when you put those shapes together, in that order, it means something.

The conventions allow us to easily manipulate complicated mathematical expressions to make them simpler. You can swap variables and constants around and associate them following the rules to obtain easier relationships. You can't do that if you are restricted to a left to right convention.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Sure thing, 176.

You dont even know what an IQ is. You and nearly everyone thinks knowledge equates intelligence but it doesnt. Im an artistic and creative genius and ive proven that. Do you remember the comic penis drawings? Shadyriders alone proves my superiority in that regard. I couldnt care less about math and I dont have any use for it beyond whats needed in every day life.If you think just being good at math means you are intelligent then you are very much mistaken. That is just knowledge and without the creative ability to apply it in new ways it doesnt count for much.

You think guys like Archimedes and Da Vinci were just mathematicians?

Stop assuming you know the first ####ing thing about me. You've jumped to a number of conclusions here, all of which any intelligent person wouldn't.

Maybe because you tried to insult me?

Incorrect.

How did you think it would come across?

Just curious, by what measure did you come to believe you have an IQ of 176? Was this some 12-question online test you took multiple times?

I was tested when I was 10. I was a huge "discipline" problem in school and given a battery of tests to depermine what to do with me after being expelled from several schools.Then they put me in a gifted program and I was expelled from that in 2 years.

So the test proved to be wrong. You do realize the most common IQ tests do not even go that high.

Perhaps I was given several. This went on for 2 weeks. It must have been several.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Perhaps I was given several. This went on for 2 weeks. It must have been several.

So was 176 the cumulative score?

(Cumulative means you add all the scores together - in case you were unsure, and embarrassed to ask)

 

[loser]

You see, the Indigo Girls are lesbians.

 

[hagmania]

OK- so why do we have an order of operations rule? I get that we have one but what's the logic of it? Wouldn't it be far simpler to go from left to right unless there were parenthesis?

I know a lot of people laughed at tim for this, but did anyone really answer it? We use PEMDAS. Why? Why not left-to-right-except-when-there-are-parentheses, as tim suggested?

In reality, it's just a matter of convention. We use PEMDAS because that's what we've all agreed to do, just like -52 = -25 because that's what we've all (hopefully, finally) agreed that it's equal to. Switching from PEMDAS to something else wouldn't destroy the commutative property, as someone suggested earlier. It's just a convention for communicating in a way that everyone understands. If we all agreed to write math formulas in left-to-right format, instead of PEMDAS, the commutative property of addition and multiplication would still hold. We'd just need to write our formulas in a different order to express the same thing.

We call the sky "blue." In Spain, they call it "azul" - the sky hasn't fallen there, they've just adopted a different convention for communicating. When someone wants to express the color of the sky, there's nothing inherent in the letters "B", "L", "U", and "E" that conveys it. English-speakers just agreed that when you put those shapes together, in that order, it means something.

This is all true and now that we've all agreed on the convention we can't switch it. But if we could start over, would simple left to right be a better system? It corresponds more closely to the way we read, so our minds are more accustomed to it. I can't think of a situation where it would be worse.

English bias imo.

 

[roadkill1292]

it's my belief that those who feel the need to cite their own measurables do so out of insecurity, whether that be how fast they can run, how much they can bench, or how high their IQ is.

Truly gifted people don't need others to acknowledge they are gifted.

I said something very similar to this several years ago and do you remember who leapt to disagree? BGP. He said it was too vital to the national welfare that he bring up his own brilliance in case no one else recognized it. It was no schtick, either.

Yes, Beej had difficulty recognizing the irony of that.

Who's smarter, BGP, MC Gasbag or a fifth grader?