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A 4th women sexually assualted by Roethlisberger? (1 Viewer)

CrossEyed said:
The RUMOR is that Goodell's investigators may have uncovered more incidents, which is why the timetable has moved up and the potential suspension has been increased.
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Probably all unproven as well. Ben is squeaky clean and completely innocent until there's more proof.
 
fatness said:
A tip of the hat is in order for Godsbrother, who frequently in this thread said that the police had botched the investigation. He cited several examples, and it turns out that not only was he right, but that there was an incredible number of things done wrong during the investigation, starting right from the first report to the first policeman. It's pretty mind-boggling.

This is what guaranteed that Roethlisberger would not be charged and convicted, regardless of what went on. You can draw your own conclusions about whether some of it was intentional or not on the part of Milledgeville police.

Interesting article.

I wonder, since Ben and Entourage are allegeged to have fired up their cell phones to get legal counsel that evening if they did so before or after the alleged rape occured (maybe the lawyers are friends and were often in contact), before or after the alleged incident was reported to the cops (If this was the only time that evening, or the first time that evening and it was "before" I find that indicitive of guilt), or before or after the cops initially confronted Roethlisberger.
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http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/04/14/suspens...ldnt-care-less/

Suspension, Fine? Roethlisberger Couldn’t Care Less

A suspension for Ben Roethlisberger, either by the NFL or by his Pittsburgh Steelers, will happen, because it has to happen. But it won’t matter.

It never does.

In fact, the next knucklehead in sports will surface by the end of the month, or probably by the end of the week, and likely sooner than that.

Roethlisberger is just a symptom of a historical problem. Suspensions. Fines. Tongue lashings. Water boarding. Try as you might, you can’t scare more than a few athletes into doing the right thing — especially those with real or perceived clout — because they think they already know it all.

They think they know that what happened to those other knuckleheads can’t possibly happen to them. They think that, even if they are caught, they won’t have anywhere near the same punishment as those other knuckleheads.

Mostly, they think that they won’t get caught.

Just in the NFL in recent years, you’ve had everything from Pacman Jones and his 10 (ahem) interviews by the police within months, to the late Chris Henry‘s four arrests, to a drunk Donte Stallworth killing a guy with his Bentley, to Michael Vick and his dogs, to Plaxico Burress and his gun.

Elsewhere in sports, you’ve had Gilbert Arenas and his guns, along with Tiger Woods and his women, and you can keep going for eternity.

Woods had it right, when he described the reason for his reckless extra-marital transactions as having “a sense of entitlement.” He was speaking for Eldrick Tont Woods and for all of those other knuckleheads — past, present and future.

The solution? There isn’t one. Never has been, and never will be.

Roethlisberger is the epitome of arrogance wrapped in stupidity, with no end in sight. In the NFL, for instance, you’ll always have clueless teams such as the New York Jets, who have added Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards and Antonio Cromartie in the past year, taking Al Davis’ “Just win, baby” to the extreme. So what if you are a knucklehead for this team? If you wait a while, you can become somebody else’s knucklehead with a raise.

You also have Nike, which rarely has met a high-profile athlete that it wanted to drop. For instance: While the endorsement world kept collapsing around Woods — from AT&T to Gatorade to Accenture — the swoosh people remained. Then, after PLB Sports, which makes something called Big Ben’s Beef Jerky, announced this week that it had terminated its contract with Roethlisberger, the swoosh people quickly said that Roethlisberger will remain one of their knuckleheads.

Surprise, surprise.

And this part’s not a surprise, either: Roethlisberger is the epitome of arrogance wrapped in stupidity, with no end in sight. For one, he is at least a three-time loser regarding his decision- making away from the huddle. There was his nearly fatal motorcycle accident four years ago when he was told by his coach to stay off the thing, and now you’ve had two sexual assault charges against him within the last several months.

As for the latest charge, a district attorney in Milledgeville, Ga., decided not to prosecute the case. Even so, he gave enough details about what he said happened in a nightclub restroom — featuring the 6-foot-5 and 241-pound Roethlisberger and a “highly intoxicated” 20-year-old woman who was much smaller than the quarterback — to make you wonder if Roethlisberger has a vacancy between his ears.

It gets worse. When Roethlisberger walked into his news conference on Monday after he got his considerable break from that prosecutor, he resembled a burned-out love child from the 1960s — crazy hair, unshaven face, spacey look.

Or I should say an uncaring look. The look of entitlement.

Within keeping Roethlisberger’s shaky reputation with the media, he spent 73 seconds reading from a prepared text, and then he vanished. During the regular season, when all NFL quarterbacks are required to make themselves available for interviews at least once a week, Roethlisberger stays away from the Steelers’ locker room like clockwork on his scheduled day of Wednesday until 11:42 a.m.

The locker room closes to the media at 11:45 a.m.

The point is, Roethlisberger hasn’t created much goodwill through the years, even among his teammates. Wide receiver Hines Ward has ripped him a couple of times — once, when Roethlisberger said he needed taller receivers despite winning two Super Bowls with the ones he had, and once, for not playing with a head injury that Ward thought wasn’t as bad as Roethlisberger said it was.

He doesn’t get it. He never did.

And, yes, Roethlisberger cleaned himself up — after a mighty shove from somebody — for Tuesday’s meeting with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, but Roethlisberger’s message already had been sent the day before by his silly ways in that news conference.

Fine. Suspension. Whatever, dude.

That’s the mantra for all of these knuckleheads.

 
CrossEyed said:
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/04/14/suspens...ldnt-care-less/

Suspension, Fine? Roethlisberger Couldn’t Care Less

A suspension for Ben Roethlisberger, either by the NFL or by his Pittsburgh Steelers, will happen, because it has to happen. But it won’t matter.

It never does.

In fact, the next knucklehead in sports will surface by the end of the month, or probably by the end of the week, and likely sooner than that.

Roethlisberger is just a symptom of a historical problem. Suspensions. Fines. Tongue lashings. Water boarding. Try as you might, you can’t scare more than a few athletes into doing the right thing — especially those with real or perceived clout — because they think they already know it all.

They think they know that what happened to those other knuckleheads can’t possibly happen to them. They think that, even if they are caught, they won’t have anywhere near the same punishment as those other knuckleheads.

Mostly, they think that they won’t get caught.

Just in the NFL in recent years, you’ve had everything from Pacman Jones and his 10 (ahem) interviews by the police within months, to the late Chris Henry‘s four arrests, to a drunk Donte Stallworth killing a guy with his Bentley, to Michael Vick and his dogs, to Plaxico Burress and his gun.

Elsewhere in sports, you’ve had Gilbert Arenas and his guns, along with Tiger Woods and his women, and you can keep going for eternity.

Woods had it right, when he described the reason for his reckless extra-marital transactions as having “a sense of entitlement.” He was speaking for Eldrick Tont Woods and for all of those other knuckleheads — past, present and future.

The solution? There isn’t one. Never has been, and never will be.

Roethlisberger is the epitome of arrogance wrapped in stupidity, with no end in sight. In the NFL, for instance, you’ll always have clueless teams such as the New York Jets, who have added Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards and Antonio Cromartie in the past year, taking Al Davis’ “Just win, baby” to the extreme. So what if you are a knucklehead for this team? If you wait a while, you can become somebody else’s knucklehead with a raise.

You also have Nike, which rarely has met a high-profile athlete that it wanted to drop. For instance: While the endorsement world kept collapsing around Woods — from AT&T to Gatorade to Accenture — the swoosh people remained. Then, after PLB Sports, which makes something called Big Ben’s Beef Jerky, announced this week that it had terminated its contract with Roethlisberger, the swoosh people quickly said that Roethlisberger will remain one of their knuckleheads.

Surprise, surprise.

And this part’s not a surprise, either: Roethlisberger is the epitome of arrogance wrapped in stupidity, with no end in sight. For one, he is at least a three-time loser regarding his decision- making away from the huddle. There was his nearly fatal motorcycle accident four years ago when he was told by his coach to stay off the thing, and now you’ve had two sexual assault charges against him within the last several months.

As for the latest charge, a district attorney in Milledgeville, Ga., decided not to prosecute the case. Even so, he gave enough details about what he said happened in a nightclub restroom — featuring the 6-foot-5 and 241-pound Roethlisberger and a “highly intoxicated” 20-year-old woman who was much smaller than the quarterback — to make you wonder if Roethlisberger has a vacancy between his ears.

It gets worse. When Roethlisberger walked into his news conference on Monday after he got his considerable break from that prosecutor, he resembled a burned-out love child from the 1960s — crazy hair, unshaven face, spacey look.

Or I should say an uncaring look. The look of entitlement.

Within keeping Roethlisberger’s shaky reputation with the media, he spent 73 seconds reading from a prepared text, and then he vanished. During the regular season, when all NFL quarterbacks are required to make themselves available for interviews at least once a week, Roethlisberger stays away from the Steelers’ locker room like clockwork on his scheduled day of Wednesday until 11:42 a.m.

The locker room closes to the media at 11:45 a.m.

The point is, Roethlisberger hasn’t created much goodwill through the years, even among his teammates. Wide receiver Hines Ward has ripped him a couple of times — once, when Roethlisberger said he needed taller receivers despite winning two Super Bowls with the ones he had, and once, for not playing with a head injury that Ward thought wasn’t as bad as Roethlisberger said it was.

He doesn’t get it. He never did.

And, yes, Roethlisberger cleaned himself up — after a mighty shove from somebody — for Tuesday’s meeting with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, but Roethlisberger’s message already had been sent the day before by his silly ways in that news conference.

Fine. Suspension. Whatever, dude.

That’s the mantra for all of these knuckleheads.
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I tend to believe that Roethlisberger has had enough negative attention that he will change his ways. I don't think he will change his attitude toward women, just his ways. I think the next chapeter has Ben getting engaged. Supporters will note that he is settling down, maturing. Things will be good until his bachelor party gets out of hand or until the wife gets pregnant and tells him his days out with the boys are over. I definately see a 04:00 Domestic Violence police call in his future when the wife tells him that fathers have obligations.
 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I tend to believe that Roethlisberger has had enough negative attention that he will change his ways. I don't think he will change his attitude toward women, just his ways. I think the next chapeter has Ben getting engaged. Supporters will note that he is settling down, maturing. Things will be good until his bachelor party gets out of hand or until the wife gets pregnant and tells him his days out with the boys are over. I definately see a 04:00 Domestic Violence police call in his future when the wife tells him that fathers have obligations.
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:lmao: I agree that Roethlisberger has probably been humiliated enough that he'll be on his best behavior, at least for a season or two. His problem is the likelihood of more woman coming forward with their stories of Big Ben encounters. At this point it doesn't matter whether they are true or not -- he just wants the dogs called off.Then if he is a good boy for a season or two and gets married the NFL can run feel-good stories about how the bad boy has grown up and become a respectable member of the community.
 
This thread should be LOCKED.

I think big Ben is garabage and akin to jerramy Stevens

BUT... this thread is a rumor of a rumor that hasnt surfaced...

 
CrossEyed said:
The RUMOR is that Goodell's investigators may have uncovered more incidents, which is why the timetable has moved up and the potential suspension has been increased.
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Maybe it was this one.
He invites her and her friend back to his place. They head back to Ben's house along with a couple friends/bodyguards of his. Mandy's friend takes up with a bodyguard/friend of Ben's downstairs and Mandy heads upstairs with Ben.

He shows her around the house a bit upstairs and then they head to his room. They made out a little but mostly were talking. At this point, she said she had pretty much decided nothing was going to happen because he was pretty drunk and really arrogant. At this point, Ben gets a call on his cell and heads to the bathroom. She looks around his room and sees in his closet he has dozens of football jerseys. She notices one in particular that's autographed all over.

In a moment of questionable decision-making, she nabs the jersey and throws it out the window of the bedroom intending to grab it on her way out. She is walking to the door of the bedroom to go find her friend when Ben emerges from the bathroom naked as the day he was born and at full attention.

She said she was shocked, certainly by the full nude approach, but also because he had a gray penis (this is the part of the story we've laughed at most over the years - such a bizarre detail. We asked so many times what she meant by "gray" and she just said it was gray and almost looked ashy. Amazing). She sort of laughed a little and said she had to leave.

He cursed her out at this point, calling her a tease (the worst crime in Ben's world, apparently) and telling her to get the #### out. She ran downstairs, collected her friend and away they went... but not before collecting the jersey.
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Maybe it was just zinc oxide. As much as he has the rascal out I would think there is a real risk of sunburn if he is not taking precautions. I wouldn't read anything into this other than a responsible skin care regime.

 
fatness said:
CrossEyed said:
The RUMOR is that Goodell's investigators may have uncovered more incidents, which is why the timetable has moved up and the potential suspension has been increased.
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Maybe it was this one.
He invites her and her friend back to his place. They head back to Ben's house along with a couple friends/bodyguards of his. Mandy's friend takes up with a bodyguard/friend of Ben's downstairs and Mandy heads upstairs with Ben.

He shows her around the house a bit upstairs and then they head to his room. They made out a little but mostly were talking. At this point, she said she had pretty much decided nothing was going to happen because he was pretty drunk and really arrogant. At this point, Ben gets a call on his cell and heads to the bathroom. She looks around his room and sees in his closet he has dozens of football jerseys. She notices one in particular that's autographed all over.

In a moment of questionable decision-making, she nabs the jersey and throws it out the window of the bedroom intending to grab it on her way out. She is walking to the door of the bedroom to go find her friend when Ben emerges from the bathroom naked as the day he was born and at full attention.

She said she was shocked, certainly by the full nude approach, but also because he had a gray penis (this is the part of the story we've laughed at most over the years - such a bizarre detail. We asked so many times what she meant by "gray" and she just said it was gray and almost looked ashy. Amazing). She sort of laughed a little and said she had to leave.

He cursed her out at this point, calling her a tease (the worst crime in Ben's world, apparently) and telling her to get the #### out. She ran downstairs, collected her friend and away they went... but not before collecting the jersey.
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:confused: These stories really are getting out of hand. :confused:

 
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