A closer look at Frank Gore (1 Viewer)

[kutta]

So I am sitting at the 5 position in my draft pretty much confident and happy that I will end up with Frank Gore for all the reasons that we have all beaten to death over the last few months. So I started to look a little deeper into the stats of last year so I could do my "official" projections and make sure that Gore was the guy for me. I want to preface this by saying that I am not one of those who says "well take away that run and he only had so and so many yards," or "take away that game and he only had so and so many yards for the season." However, something just jumped out at me from his stats that seems like there is some relevance, so for now, I am going to turn into one of those guys I just said I'm not.

Here were Gore's rushing stats from last year:

229 1120 10

Not bad seeing that he pretty much missed three full games. So over 13 games he averaged:

17 86 0.77 (5.00 yds. per carry)

That's not bad, and projected over an entire season his rushing stats becomes:

272 1376 12.3

All looks good so far. But, what jumped out at me is that he had three very big games against very weak divisional opponents (St. Louis, AZ, and Seattle). Here I go - If you remove those three games, his rushing stats on the year become:

165 639 5

For an average of:

17 64 0.5 (3.7 yds. per carry)

So in the three games that he did not play AZ, Seattle, or St. Louis, this is what he averaged last year.

Again, I want to stress that I generally HATE this kind of analysis. But this just seemed very significant to me when I was looking at the stats, and I thought it would be worth pointing out.

 

[loose circuits]

you could probably do that with any Rb

 

[shredhead]

So I am sitting at the 5 position in my draft pretty much confident and happy that I will end up with Frank Gore for all the reasons that we have all beaten to death over the last few months. So I started to look a little deeper into the stats of last year so I could do my "official" projections and make sure that Gore was the guy for me. I want to preface this by saying that I am not one of those who says "well take away that run and he only had so and so many yards," or "take away that game and he only had so and so many yards for the season." However, something just jumped out at me from his stats that seems like there is some relevance, so for now, I am going to turn into one of those guys I just said I'm not.

Here were Gore's rushing stats from last year:

229 1120 10

Not bad seeing that he pretty much missed three full games. So over 13 games he averaged:

17 86 0.77 (5.00 yds. per carry)

That's not bad, and projected over an entire season his rushing stats becomes:

272 1376 12.3

All looks good so far. But, what jumped out at me is that he had three very big games against very weak divisional opponents (St. Louis, AZ, and Seattle). Here I go - If you remove those three games, his rushing stats on the year become:

165 639 5

For an average of:

17 64 0.5 (3.7 yds. per carry)

So in the three games that he did not play AZ, Seattle, or St. Louis, this is what he averaged last year.

Again, I want to stress that I generally HATE this kind of analysis. But this just seemed very significant to me when I was looking at the stats, and I thought it would be worth pointing out.

Your point may be valid, and I want to look more at that since I have the 5th pick too. I want to ask you though, did you consider the fact that 10 of his games are against the NFC west, and AFC west teams none of whom have stellar rushing D's.

 

[Grahamburn]

Gore's 2010 schedule:

Sep 12 @Seattle 4:15pm

Sep 20 New Orleans 8:30pm

Sep 26 @Kansas City 1:00pm

Oct 3 @Atlanta 1:00pm

Oct 10 Philadelphia 8:20pm

Oct 17 Oakland 4:05pm

Oct 24 @Carolina 1:00pm

Oct 31 Denver 1:00pm

Week 9 BYE

Nov 14 St. Louis 4:15pm

Nov 21 Tampa Bay 4:05pm

Nov 29 @Arizona 8:30pm

Dec 5 @Green Bay 1:00pm

Dec 12 Seattle 4:05pm

Dec 16 @San Diego 8:20pm

Dec 26 @St. Louis 1:00pm

Jan 2 Arizona 4:15pm

Interestingly enough, all those same teams are on there again, with a few more cupcakes thrown in for good measure. Gore is going to lead fantasy teams to championships this year.

ETA: Why'd you leave out Gore's 52 receptions for 406 yards and 3 TDs?

Gore is so criminally underrated. I <_< every time I see his name on an "avoid" or "overrated" list. He hasn't finished worse than 14th since his rookie year. He has finished 4th, 9th, 14th, and 5th in the last 4 years.

 

[ATC1]

you could probably do that with any Rb

<_<

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Hey Kutta,

I had Gore on multiple teams so I watched them play a lot last year. Visually, he passed the test of impressing me. He looked good coming out of the backfield and ran with some power.

I like the fact that Singletary is the coach, that they drafted not 1 but 2 offensive linemen studs so that they can crank out the run this year in a weak division. You're looking at the weak division thing as a weakness, look at it from the other side which is a strength, he gets to do it again this year.

Did it help Brett Farve over the years that he got to play the Lions twice every year? Sure, to some degree but he was still a great QB right. The same holds true here. Yes, the weak SoS helps out Gore but that alone isn't what gave Gore those stats, it's Gore himself.

If it makes you feel better, do a comparison on how his backup did when he was in there. Check out what Coffee did on the same team, as far as rushing average etc...and without checking myself, I think you'll find that he was definately better than those guys.

With San Francisco dedicated to running the football (selected 2 offensive linemen in the 1st round of last year's draft), I think Gore is a solid pick. He isn't the sexy pick, but he's a guy that's going to get you points. Make the pick, move on to the 2nd round and make another good one.

 

[nysportsfan]

Gore plays those teams again, no?

5.0 is a heck of a YPC, not just ok, to be honest. I would take him in the five hole and have considered taking him 4th overall several times. He may miss a game, but he is in line for a great year if he stays healthy.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

you could probably do that with any Rb

I don't want to be rude but how is that good posting. Kutta is trying to make a point through discussion. The thread wasn't created like this: I have the 5th pick, I think Gore stinks but I might take him, discuss.I think there's some room here for a legitimate conversation. To just throw a blanket "you could probably do that with any RB" statement and get a good posting out of it..........I guess a good post Ain't What It Used to Be.

 

[butcher boy]

He'd have a point if it wasn't for the simple fact that Gore faces the same ####ty teams again this year.

But if you think Gore stinks, you dont really watch 49er games.

 

[glumpy]

Gore plays those teams again, no?5.0 is a heck of a YPC, not just ok, to be honest. I would take him in the five hole and have considered taking him 4th overall several times. He may miss a game, but he is in line for a great year if he stays healthy.

Interesting consideration--over who? I'm assuming that you're comparing against either MJD or Rice, as I've seen them flipped between the 3 & 4 slots...the more frequent debate seems to be between Gore & Turner at 5-6.

 

[gandalas]

Gore plays those teams again, no?5.0 is a heck of a YPC, not just ok, to be honest. I would take him in the five hole and have considered taking him 4th overall several times. He may miss a game, but he is in line for a great year if he stays healthy.

Interesting consideration--over who? I'm assuming that you're comparing against either MJD or Rice, as I've seen them flipped between the 3 & 4 slots...the more frequent debate seems to be between Gore & Turner at 5-6.

I think that Ray Rice and Gore at #4 is a closer debate for many than you give it credit for. Sure Rice had a great year, but he now has a better passing game to contend with, plus all the news of the bigger, better Mcgahee potentially keeping the goal-line duties.While I still think that Rice will have the better season of the 2, I would not fault anyone for taking Gore and his track record over him at #4.

 

[Kuz]

Gore's 2010 schedule:

Sep 12 @Seattle 4:15pm

Sep 20 New Orleans 8:30pm

Sep 26 @Kansas City 1:00pm

Oct 3 @Atlanta 1:00pm

Oct 10 Philadelphia 8:20pm

Oct 17 Oakland 4:05pm

Oct 24 @Carolina 1:00pm

Oct 31 Denver 1:00pm

Week 9 BYE

Nov 14 St. Louis 4:15pm

Nov 21 Tampa Bay 4:05pm

Nov 29 @Arizona 8:30pm

Dec 5 @Green Bay 1:00pm

Dec 12 Seattle 4:05pm

Dec 16 @San Diego 8:20pm

Dec 26 @St. Louis 1:00pm

Jan 2 Arizona 4:15pm

Interestingly enough, all those same teams are on there again, with a few more cupcakes thrown in for good measure. Gore is going to lead fantasy teams to championships this year.

ETA: Why'd you leave out Gore's 52 receptions for 406 yards and 3 TDs?

Gore is so criminally underrated. I every time I see his name on an "avoid" or "overrated" list. He hasn't finished worse than 14th since his rookie year. He has finished 4th, 9th, 14th, and 5th in the last 4 years.

I really like Gore this year but he's not underrated- he's got an ADP of like 5 or 6. How is that being underrated.

 

[ZWK]

Gore had 4.36 ypc against non-divisional opponents, not 3.7. He played Seattle and Arizona twice each, and you only subtracted out the better of his two games against each of them.

Gore played 8 non-divisional games (excluding the Minnesota game where he was hurt early) and had 133 carries for 580 yards & 4 tds, plus 35 receptions for 277 yards and 2 tds. That's a 16-game pace of 266-1060-8, 70-554-4, 243 fantasy points (313 with PPR).

 

[Joe T]

you could probably do that with any Rb

good analysis here.:subscribe:

 

[Joe T]

Gore plays those teams again, no?5.0 is a heck of a YPC, not just ok, to be honest. I would take him in the five hole and have considered taking him 4th overall several times. He may miss a game, but he is in line for a great year if he stays healthy.

Interesting consideration--over who? I'm assuming that you're comparing against either MJD or Rice, as I've seen them flipped between the 3 & 4 slots...the more frequent debate seems to be between Gore & Turner at 5-6.

I think that Ray Rice and Gore at #4 is a closer debate for many than you give it credit for. Sure Rice had a great year, but he now has a better passing game to contend with, plus all the news of the bigger, better Mcgahee potentially keeping the goal-line duties.While I still think that Rice will have the better season of the 2, I would not fault anyone for taking Gore and his track record over him at #4.

Rice is better than Gore because he has a better offensive line, is younger, and the fact that they now have a passing game helps open up things more for him in the running game.I do like this thread though because I feel deep down that Gore is overrated and is often injured... but maybe with the schedule he has this year he might be valued correctly. The 49ers are going to run the ball a lot. If Gore stays healthy, I now can see him finishing in the top 8 backs.... which would be worthy of a pick at #5 or #6.

 

[Banger]

Stats are nice and they are a necessary part of the game we play but they are historical. The key to FF is to look back and analyze the stats and why they were the way they were, look at what changed and then project forward.

Last year their line was decimated, they were playing a spread offense, Crabtree was only there a part of the year and Gore still had a good year. Yes, he beat up on some bad teams but as has been said he faces then 6 times this year in addition to some other easy games. Equally/more important are the changes on the line (big improvement), no more spread offesne and more pounding the ball, and Crabtree will have a training camp this year. He's healthy, got no competition for touches and has a nice schedule. I wouldn't be surprised if he were one of the top 2 or 3 backs.

Don't overthink it.

 

[((Morpheus))]

Stats are nice and they are a necessary part of the game we play but they are historical. The key to FF is to look back and analyze the stats and why they were the way they were, look at what changed and then project forward. Last year their line was decimated, they were playing a spread offense, Crabtree was only there a part of the year and Gore still had a good year. Yes, he beat up on some bad teams but as has been said he faces then 6 times this year in addition to some other easy games. Equally/more important are the changes on the line (big improvement), no more spread offesne and more pounding the ball, and Crabtree will have a training camp this year. He's healthy, got no competition for touches and has a nice schedule. I wouldn't be surprised if he were one of the top 2 or 3 backs. Don't overthink it.

and I'm a math guy

 

[Tigerbot Hesh]

I'm also drafting fifth, and will wind up with either Gore or one of the top 4 RBs should they fall to me.

The one thing that scares me with Gore is the injury history. Most people seem to accept that he'll miss a couple of games, but taking him fourth or fifth doesn't leave him a lot of wiggle room to live up to his draft ranking should he miss time.

 

[SSOG]

So I am sitting at the 5 position in my draft pretty much confident and happy that I will end up with Frank Gore for all the reasons that we have all beaten to death over the last few months. So I started to look a little deeper into the stats of last year so I could do my "official" projections and make sure that Gore was the guy for me. I want to preface this by saying that I am not one of those who says "well take away that run and he only had so and so many yards," or "take away that game and he only had so and so many yards for the season." However, something just jumped out at me from his stats that seems like there is some relevance, so for now, I am going to turn into one of those guys I just said I'm not.

Here were Gore's rushing stats from last year:

229 1120 10

Not bad seeing that he pretty much missed three full games. So over 13 games he averaged:

17 86 0.77 (5.00 yds. per carry)

That's not bad, and projected over an entire season his rushing stats becomes:

272 1376 12.3

All looks good so far. But, what jumped out at me is that he had three very big games against very weak divisional opponents (St. Louis, AZ, and Seattle). Here I go - If you remove those three games, his rushing stats on the year become:

165 639 5

For an average of:

17 64 0.5 (3.7 yds. per carry)

So in the three games that he did not play AZ, Seattle, or St. Louis, this is what he averaged last year.

Again, I want to stress that I generally HATE this kind of analysis. But this just seemed very significant to me when I was looking at the stats, and I thought it would be worth pointing out.

Two points.First off, are AZ, Seattle, or St. Louis not on the schedule this season? Actually, Gore only got to play St. Louis once last year, but he draws them TWICE this year.

Second off, you're including his game against Minnesota in the sample, which seems silly to me since he got hurt on the first carry. Take away his three big games against divisional rivals and take away the Minnesota game and Gore put up 967 total yards and 8 TDs in 10 games, which would pro-rate to a 1550/13 season.

In other words, even if you take away his three best games, Frank Gore was still on pace for 233 fantasy points last season, a total which would have been good for a 5th place finish. And this is after you take away his three best games!

 

[kutta]

Gore had 4.36 ypc against non-divisional opponents, not 3.7. He played Seattle and Arizona twice each, and you only subtracted out the better of his two games against each of them.Gore played 8 non-divisional games (excluding the Minnesota game where he was hurt early) and had 133 carries for 580 yards & 4 tds, plus 35 receptions for 277 yards and 2 tds. That's a 16-game pace of 266-1060-8, 70-554-4, 243 fantasy points (313 with PPR).

I only subtracted out his three best games because I wanted to make the point that he had three pretty big rushing games all year last year, and the rest of the games his rushing stats were very pedestrian.

 

[kutta]

So I am sitting at the 5 position in my draft pretty much confident and happy that I will end up with Frank Gore for all the reasons that we have all beaten to death over the last few months. So I started to look a little deeper into the stats of last year so I could do my "official" projections and make sure that Gore was the guy for me. I want to preface this by saying that I am not one of those who says "well take away that run and he only had so and so many yards," or "take away that game and he only had so and so many yards for the season." However, something just jumped out at me from his stats that seems like there is some relevance, so for now, I am going to turn into one of those guys I just said I'm not.

Here were Gore's rushing stats from last year:

229 1120 10

Not bad seeing that he pretty much missed three full games. So over 13 games he averaged:

17 86 0.77 (5.00 yds. per carry)

That's not bad, and projected over an entire season his rushing stats becomes:

272 1376 12.3

All looks good so far. But, what jumped out at me is that he had three very big games against very weak divisional opponents (St. Louis, AZ, and Seattle). Here I go - If you remove those three games, his rushing stats on the year become:

165 639 5

For an average of:

17 64 0.5 (3.7 yds. per carry)

So in the three games that he did not play AZ, Seattle, or St. Louis, this is what he averaged last year.

Again, I want to stress that I generally HATE this kind of analysis. But this just seemed very significant to me when I was looking at the stats, and I thought it would be worth pointing out.

Two points.First off, are AZ, Seattle, or St. Louis not on the schedule this season? Actually, Gore only got to play St. Louis once last year, but he draws them TWICE this year.

Second off, you're including his game against Minnesota in the sample, which seems silly to me since he got hurt on the first carry. Take away his three big games against divisional rivals and take away the Minnesota game and Gore put up 967 total yards and 8 TDs in 10 games, which would pro-rate to a 1550/13 season.

In other words, even if you take away his three best games, Frank Gore was still on pace for 233 fantasy points last season, a total which would have been good for a 5th place finish. And this is after you take away his three best games!

I did take out the Minnesota game. And I was only focused on rushing stats because those are the ones that instantly jumped out at me. He missed 3 games (including the Minnesota game), and I took out his big games against AZ, Seattle, and St. Louis, leaving 10 games. So in those 10 games, he averaged rushing:17 64 0.5

ETA: Hmmm. Yes. That's a very good point about the receiving stats too. That is actually impressive that if you take away his top three games he still finishes as #5. I verified that in my league. It looks like he has decent receiving days when he has bad rushing days, so things even out pretty well.

 

[SSOG]

ETA: Hmmm. Yes. That's a very good point about the receiving stats too. That is actually impressive that if you take away his top three games he still finishes as #5. I verified that in my league. It looks like he has decent receiving days when he has bad rushing days, so things even out pretty well.

Part of the reason for the drop in rushing stats is because San Fran started experimenting with the spread midway through the season, and Gore wasn't comfortable running out of shotgun. That also explains why the drop in rushing stats was accompanied by a rise in receiving stats. In his first seven games back from injury, Gore only topped 16 carries once. He then had 20+ in 3 of the last 4 games (and 16 in the 4th), which suggests that San Fran is going back to the smash-mouth approach. Plus, don't forget how heavily San Francisco invested in its offensive line this offseason.I think Gore is underrated at #5. In redraft leagues, I wouldn't bat an eye if he was the second player off the board. I'd personally take him 3rd after CJ3 and MJD but ahead of ADP and Rice.

 

[TWP]

that just means they threw him the ball instead of handing him the ball. who cares if it was a screen play or a running play? what you care about is touches and total yards (unless you're in PPR in which case the passes are actually more important to you).

 

[loose circuits]

you could probably do that with any Rb

I don't want to be rude but how is that good posting. Kutta is trying to make a point through discussion. The thread wasn't created like this: I have the 5th pick, I think Gore stinks but I might take him, discuss.I think there's some room here for a legitimate conversation. To just throw a blanket "you could probably do that with any RB" statement and get a good posting out of it..........I guess a good post Ain't What It Used to Be.

while I wasn't the one who hyped my post. You can manipulate the stats however you feel necessary. Most backs wouldn't have good numbers if you take away their better games. While it was a good effort, unfortunately I'm not sure it was worth the time the OP put into it. Seems to me like he's looking for reasons to not draft Frank Gore so he probably shouldn't. Take Micheal Turner/SJax if you want another back or Andre if you want a safe pick

 

[Mr. Fusion]

Gore plays those teams again, no?5.0 is a heck of a YPC, not just ok, to be honest. I would take him in the five hole and have considered taking him 4th overall several times. He may miss a game, but he is in line for a great year if he stays healthy.

Interesting consideration--over who? I'm assuming that you're comparing against either MJD or Rice, as I've seen them flipped between the 3 & 4 slots...the more frequent debate seems to be between Gore & Turner at 5-6.

I'm picking 5th and I am starting to believe that Gore may go at 4 in my league as well. More and more projections have him 4th, over Ray Rice, though his ADP is firmly at 5.

 

[ATC1]

you could probably do that with any Rb

good analysis here.:subscribe:

You can take streakiness with any RB. [/thread]All this number cruntching people do just makes them over think. On an average yes, some teams are much poorer against the run than others, but even the top RBs don't put up monster games when they are expected too. Peterson and S. JAckson had very pedestrian games against bad rush defensive teams. ADP under 4 ypc against the Bears twice and they were one of the worst rushing defenses in the league. He also went under 3 ypc against the Panthers who was 22 against the run. Gore had 207 yards against the Seahawks in one game and 25 in the other. Same defense, different result. It all depends on the flow of the game for every RB.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Hi Kutta,

I have an enormous RB thread I am working on and generally I skip over the top few picks because it doesn't matter what I say people are going to grab n go. That said I did focus on Gore and I think you are overlooking the fact they have a prettyy soft schedule this year so include 6 games against the NFC West, then some other soft balls and a much improved OL where hopefully Joe Staley will be able to stay healthy for 16 games, then add the others they picked in the Spring and you have the makings for a major power running team with a guy leading the ship who likes old school football.

I actually believe Gore is going to have a career year. He is 27 years old, season 6 in the NFL which historically for backs of his talent are many times their career year so I would be optimistic not pessimistic. Take him and smile although he has been gooing as high as #3.

-MOP

 

[mashers]

So I am sitting at the 5 position in my draft pretty much confident and happy that I will end up with Frank Gore for all the reasons that we have all beaten to death over the last few months. So I started to look a little deeper into the stats of last year so I could do my "official" projections and make sure that Gore was the guy for me. I want to preface this by saying that I am not one of those who says "well take away that run and he only had so and so many yards," or "take away that game and he only had so and so many yards for the season." However, something just jumped out at me from his stats that seems like there is some relevance, so for now, I am going to turn into one of those guys I just said I'm not.

Here were Gore's rushing stats from last year:

229 1120 10

Not bad seeing that he pretty much missed three full games. So over 13 games he averaged:

17 86 0.77 (5.00 yds. per carry)

That's not bad, and projected over an entire season his rushing stats becomes:

272 1376 12.3

All looks good so far. But, what jumped out at me is that he had three very big games against very weak divisional opponents (St. Louis, AZ, and Seattle). Here I go - If you remove those three games, his rushing stats on the year become:

165 639 5

For an average of:

17 64 0.5 (3.7 yds. per carry)

So in the three games that he did not play AZ, Seattle, or St. Louis, this is what he averaged last year.

Again, I want to stress that I generally HATE this kind of analysis. But this just seemed very significant to me when I was looking at the stats, and I thought it would be worth pointing out.

If you remove all of Brett Favre's pass, he wouldn't have thrown for any touchdowns. Analysis like this is ridiculous when you pick and choose what to count and what not to count. Just ridiculous.

 

[kutta]

So I am sitting at the 5 position in my draft pretty much confident and happy that I will end up with Frank Gore for all the reasons that we have all beaten to death over the last few months. So I started to look a little deeper into the stats of last year so I could do my "official" projections and make sure that Gore was the guy for me. I want to preface this by saying that I am not one of those who says "well take away that run and he only had so and so many yards," or "take away that game and he only had so and so many yards for the season." However, something just jumped out at me from his stats that seems like there is some relevance, so for now, I am going to turn into one of those guys I just said I'm not.

Here were Gore's rushing stats from last year:

229 1120 10

Not bad seeing that he pretty much missed three full games. So over 13 games he averaged:

17 86 0.77 (5.00 yds. per carry)

That's not bad, and projected over an entire season his rushing stats becomes:

272 1376 12.3

All looks good so far. But, what jumped out at me is that he had three very big games against very weak divisional opponents (St. Louis, AZ, and Seattle). Here I go - If you remove those three games, his rushing stats on the year become:

165 639 5

For an average of:

17 64 0.5 (3.7 yds. per carry)

So in the three games that he did not play AZ, Seattle, or St. Louis, this is what he averaged last year.

Again, I want to stress that I generally HATE this kind of analysis. But this just seemed very significant to me when I was looking at the stats, and I thought it would be worth pointing out.

If you remove all of Brett Favre's pass, he wouldn't have thrown for any touchdowns. Analysis like this is ridiculous when you pick and choose what to count and what not to count. Just ridiculous.

Dude, I said two or three times in my post that I agree that analyses like these are pretty lame. For Gore's games last year, those three just really stuck out at me, and when I dug a little deeper it looked like there might be some merit to it. When you have three fantastic rushing games against three of the less-than-stellar rushing defenses in the league, and the rest of your ten games are very mediocre, I think that merits discussion.

 

[kutta]

Hi Kutta,I have an enormous RB thread I am working on and generally I skip over the top few picks because it doesn't matter what I say people are going to grab n go. That said I did focus on Gore and I think you are overlooking the fact they have a prettyy soft schedule this year so include 6 games against the NFC West, then some other soft balls and a much improved OL where hopefully Joe Staley will be able to stay healthy for 16 games, then add the others they picked in the Spring and you have the makings for a major power running team with a guy leading the ship who likes old school football.I actually believe Gore is going to have a career year. He is 27 years old, season 6 in the NFL which historically for backs of his talent are many times their career year so I would be optimistic not pessimistic. Take him and smile although he has been gooing as high as #3. -MOP

This is what I am leaning towards. I have loved him all summer. I just started having 2nd thoughts, but I think I'm coming back around...

 

[CalBear]

All looks good so far. But, what jumped out at me is that he had three very big games against very weak divisional opponents (St. Louis, AZ, and Seattle). Here I go - If you remove those three games, his rushing stats on the year become:

165 639 5

For an average of:

17 64 0.5 (3.7 yds. per carry)

So in the three games that he did not play AZ, Seattle, or St. Louis, this is what he averaged last year.

This analysis is particularly disingenuous, because you're removing the game he had against AZ where he had 25/167/1, but leaving in the game against AZ where he had 22/30/1. And also removing the SEA game with 16/207 while leaving in the SEA game with 9/25. If you remove all the divisional games, he had 133/580/4, 4.4 yards per carry.

 

[kutta]

All looks good so far. But, what jumped out at me is that he had three very big games against very weak divisional opponents (St. Louis, AZ, and Seattle). Here I go - If you remove those three games, his rushing stats on the year become:

165 639 5

For an average of:

17 64 0.5 (3.7 yds. per carry)

So in the three games that he did not play AZ, Seattle, or St. Louis, this is what he averaged last year.

This analysis is particularly disingenuous, because you're removing the game he had against AZ where he had 25/167/1, but leaving in the game against AZ where he had 22/30/1. And also removing the SEA game with 16/207 while leaving in the SEA game with 9/25. If you remove all the divisional games, he had 133/580/4, 4.4 yards per carry.

I understand, and there was no intent to pull any shenanigans. I was simply pointing out that a vast amount of his good rushing stats were acquired in three games.

 

[GoPackGo]

I also have the #5 pick and after a couple weeks of considering taking Andre Johnson and over thinking it, I'm going with Gore if he's there. I like that Gore is in his prime, the 49ers have upgraded their Oline, and their schedule looks favorable. I'm also thinking of targeting Vernon Davis in the 6th if he's there for the same reasons.

 

[lakermadness07]

would u trade AP for Gore and J. Knox?

 

[Grahamburn]

Gore's 2010 schedule:

Gore is so criminally underrated. I every time I see his name on an "avoid" or "overrated" list. He hasn't finished worse than 14th since his rookie year. He has finished 4th, 9th, 14th, and 5th in the last 4 years.

I really like Gore this year but he's not underrated- he's got an ADP of like 5 or 6. How is that being underrated.

I was referring to the scope of his entire career. This is probably the first season he's ever been properly valued. People say he's an injury risk, not a special player, take away his big runs or games and he's mediocre, etc..Read a few threads on Gore before the 2009 season. Alot of fantasy players were avoiding him like the plague, and I've seen several posts this season saying there's no way they'll take him, because they "have a bad feeling."

Their loss I guess.

 

[Grahamburn]

I do like this thread though because I feel deep down that Gore is overrated and is often injured... but maybe with the schedule he has this year he might be valued correctly. The 49ers are going to run the ball a lot. If Gore stays healthy, I now can see him finishing in the top 8 backs.... which would be worthy of a pick at #5 or #6.

Case in point.