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Aaron Rodgers = Bust? (1 Viewer)

Is this where we discuss Farve's retirement press conferences?

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Farve May Play A Few More YearsFavre back, not sure if this is his last season

By CHRIS JENKINS, AP Sports Writer

May 6, 2006

Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre goes back to pass during their NFL football game against the Seattle Seahawks Sunday, Jan. 1, 2006, in Green Bay, Wis. Favre has told the Packers he will return to play this year, ESPN.com reported Tuesday night, April 25, 2006.

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GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP) -- Brett Favre is back.

But for how long?

Despite comments earlier in the offseason that there was "no doubt" the upcoming season would be his last, Favre said Saturday that he wasn't so sure.

"I know I said that," Favre said Saturday, in his first public comments since telling the Green Bay Packers he would return for another year. "But I hope you guys will respect me. I'm going to play this year, give it my best and not talk about it. And I'm sure that it will come up from somewhere else at some point, but it's been a distraction not only for me but for I think the guys I played with in the past, and I'm not going to talk about it this year."

In a half-hour session with reporters, Favre reiterated several times that he never considered asking to be traded to another team in the offseason.

"I know there was a lot of talk about being traded or wanting to play for another team," Favre said. "That never, I've told you guys that over and over again that I didn't want to play for another team, and that's the truth. And never once did I mention (a) trade. This is where I wanted to be the whole time."

Favre said he came back intending to win, but if the Packers can't go to the Super Bowl, he hopes to at least have fun.

"I know there's the risk of being 4-12 again," Favre said. "As with any season, there's optimism. I'm well aware that we lost five games by just a few points (last year)."

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Ingle Martin has the ability to be as good or better than Rogers. If Rogers doesn't dedicate himself to football 12 months out of the year and Ingle does then he will likely lose the opportuinity to be the Packers future quarterback.

If Favre plays two or three more year and Ingle goes to Europe I'd put my money on Ingle.

 
Rodgers shows skillsQB takes most minicamp snaps By BOB McGINNbmcginn@journalsentinel.comPosted: May 7, 2006Green Bay - Two of Aaron Rodgers' new coaches were impressed by how he performed in the Green Bay Packers' three-day, four-practice minicamp that concluded Sunday morning "I was really pleased with Aaron," offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski said. "Absolutely. His arm strength. The way he got that thing out. And his deep ball was good. "He's got it. He just needs a chance to do it."Brett Favre took minimal repetitions over the weekend, giving Rodgers primary exposure with the No. 1 offense. Coach Mike McCarthy has excused Favre from even attending the second minicamp, which is scheduled from May 19-21. McCarthy said there was potential for Favre to take part in 10 of 14 practice days after that.Favre's absence will enable Rodgers to direct the team, just as he has done since the start of the off-season workout program March 20."I think Aaron Rodgers is having an excellent minicamp," McCarthy said late Saturday. "Statistically, big-play opportunities, controlling the huddle, managing the offense."Last spring, McCarthy studied all 22 of Rodgers' starts at the University of California because he was the offensive coordinator in San Francisco and the 49ers were evaluating him and Alex Smith. "His movement qualities are something I don't recall seeing a lot of in college," McCarthy said. "I think Aaron moves a lot better and is a lot better athlete than what people realize. He does a really nice job in space. He also has an excellent arm."Ingle Martin, a fifth-round draft choice, made too many high throws but flashed some athletic ability."He was just kind of feeling his way around," Jagodzinski said. "He's got some good tools."The Packers intentionally limited Favre's number of passes because he hadn't thrown since the final game, according to McCarthy
Sounds like he's looking good.
 
Rodgers shows skills

QB takes most minicamp snaps

By BOB McGINN

bmcginn@journalsentinel.com

Posted: May 7, 2006

Green Bay - Two of Aaron Rodgers' new coaches were impressed by how he performed in the Green Bay Packers' three-day, four-practice minicamp that concluded Sunday morning

"I was really pleased with Aaron," offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski said. "Absolutely. His arm strength. The way he got that thing out. And his deep ball was good.

"He's got it. He just needs a chance to do it."

Brett Favre took minimal repetitions over the weekend, giving Rodgers primary exposure with the No. 1 offense. Coach Mike McCarthy has excused Favre from even attending the second minicamp, which is scheduled from May 19-21. McCarthy said there was potential for Favre to take part in 10 of 14 practice days after that.

Favre's absence will enable Rodgers to direct the team, just as he has done since the start of the off-season workout program March 20.

"I think Aaron Rodgers is having an excellent minicamp," McCarthy said late Saturday. "Statistically, big-play opportunities, controlling the huddle, managing the offense."

Last spring, McCarthy studied all 22 of Rodgers' starts at the University of California because he was the offensive coordinator in San Francisco and the 49ers were evaluating him and Alex Smith.

"His movement qualities are something I don't recall seeing a lot of in college," McCarthy said. "I think Aaron moves a lot better and is a lot better athlete than what people realize. He does a really nice job in space. He also has an excellent arm."

Ingle Martin, a fifth-round draft choice, made too many high throws but flashed some athletic ability.

"He was just kind of feeling his way around," Jagodzinski said. "He's got some good tools."

The Packers intentionally limited Favre's number of passes because he hadn't thrown since the final game, according to McCarthy
Sounds like he's looking good.
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Yeah, it does but what else will McCarthy say right now? Rodgers looked decent against Baltimore last year, even though the game was a blowout. He seemed composed and in control in the pocket, very different from his appearances during pre-season.

Time will tell, but I like his chances better with McCarthy & Co. than with pear-shaped Mike Sherman & cardio-challenged Tom Rossley.

 
:lmao: at people ingoring Fla\/\/ed, but still selecting the read this post option and even quoting him. Pretty much defeats the purpose..
 
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Brett Favre took minimal repetitions over the weekend, giving Rodgers primary exposure with the No. 1 offense. Coach Mike McCarthy has excused Favre from even attending the second minicamp, which is scheduled from May 19-21. McCarthy said there was potential for Favre to take part in 10 of 14 practice days after that.

Favre's absence will enable Rodgers to direct the team, just as he has done since the start of the off-season workout program March 20.
Sounds like he's looking good.
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The extended work Rodgers is getting, bodes well for his continued development.
 
:lmao: at people ingoring Fla\/\/ed, but still selecting the read this post option and even quoting him.  Pretty much defeats the purpose..

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Kleck,You do realize that every time someone quotes him, it's no longer a post by him?

Unfortunately when that happens, it negates the ignore function and I still end up having to reading his trash :shrug:

At least if nobody quotes him, it filters his garbage out. Still see that he's posted, but the body of his post is invisible.

If you guys would just stop quoting him :hot: I'd be in heaven.

 
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It's time for the self centered, me first, INT machine known as Favre to step aside, and let a REAL QB start for the Packers...... :popcorn:

 
Brett Favre took minimal repetitions over the weekend, giving Rodgers primary exposure with the No. 1 offense. Coach Mike McCarthy has excused Favre from even attending the second minicamp, which is scheduled from May 19-21. McCarthy said there was potential for Favre to take part in 10 of 14 practice days after that.

Favre's absence will enable Rodgers to direct the team, just as he has done since the start of the off-season workout program March 20.
Sounds like he's looking good.
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The extended work Rodgers is getting, bodes well for his continued development.
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He needs it. This will be a huge training camp for his Packer future.
 
Brett Favre took minimal repetitions over the weekend, giving Rodgers primary exposure with the No. 1 offense. Coach Mike McCarthy has excused Favre from even attending the second minicamp, which is scheduled from May 19-21. McCarthy said there was potential for Favre to take part in 10 of 14 practice days after that.

Favre's absence will enable Rodgers to direct the team, just as he has done since the start of the off-season workout program March 20.
Sounds like he's looking good.
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The extended work Rodgers is getting, bodes well for his continued development.
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He needs it. This will be a huge training camp for his Packer future.
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Agreed. This is probably make or break for him. The good thing is, it sounds like McCarthy is giving him a clean slate.
 
Brett Favre took minimal repetitions over the weekend, giving Rodgers primary exposure with the No. 1 offense. Coach Mike McCarthy has excused Favre from even attending the second minicamp, which is scheduled from May 19-21. McCarthy said there was potential for Favre to take part in 10 of 14 practice days after that.

Favre's absence will enable Rodgers to direct the team, just as he has done since the start of the off-season workout program March 20.
Sounds like he's looking good.
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The extended work Rodgers is getting, bodes well for his continued development.
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No question about it. Favre being excused from the next mini-camp can only help Rodgers even more.
 
Brett Favre took minimal repetitions over the weekend, giving Rodgers primary exposure with the No. 1 offense. Coach Mike McCarthy has excused Favre from even attending the second minicamp, which is scheduled from May 19-21. McCarthy said there was potential for Favre to take part in 10 of 14 practice days after that.

Favre's absence will enable Rodgers to direct the team, just as he has done since the start of the off-season workout program March 20.
Sounds like he's looking good.
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The extended work Rodgers is getting, bodes well for his continued development.
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No question about it. Favre being excused from the next mini-camp can only help Rodgers even more.
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The next question I would have, is probably going to be considered sacrilegious by many, but it's worth asking.If the season is coming to a close and the Pack are out of it, do any of you see Rodgers getting any real game time experience?

Or would McCarthy & Thompson have too much pressure on them to continue playing Favre, even though the season is lost?

 
Brett Favre took minimal repetitions over the weekend, giving Rodgers primary exposure with the No. 1 offense. Coach Mike McCarthy has excused Favre from even attending the second minicamp, which is scheduled from May 19-21. McCarthy said there was potential for Favre to take part in 10 of 14 practice days after that.

Favre's absence will enable Rodgers to direct the team, just as he has done since the start of the off-season workout program March 20.
Sounds like he's looking good.
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The extended work Rodgers is getting, bodes well for his continued development.
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No question about it. Favre being excused from the next mini-camp can only help Rodgers even more.
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The next question I would have, is probably going to be considered sacrilegious by many, but it's worth asking.If the season is coming to a close and the Pack are out of it, do any of you see Rodgers getting any real game time experience?

Or would McCarthy & Thompson have too much pressure on them to continue playing Favre, even though the season is lost?

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in all seriousness, I think it depends what Favre thinks
 
Brett Favre took minimal repetitions over the weekend, giving Rodgers primary exposure with the No. 1 offense. Coach Mike McCarthy has excused Favre from even attending the second minicamp, which is scheduled from May 19-21. McCarthy said there was potential for Favre to take part in 10 of 14 practice days after that.

Favre's absence will enable Rodgers to direct the team, just as he has done since the start of the off-season workout program March 20.
Sounds like he's looking good.
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The extended work Rodgers is getting, bodes well for his continued development.
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No question about it. Favre being excused from the next mini-camp can only help Rodgers even more.
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The next question I would have, is probably going to be considered sacrilegious by many, but it's worth asking.If the season is coming to a close and the Pack are out of it, do any of you see Rodgers getting any real game time experience?

Or would McCarthy & Thompson have too much pressure on them to continue playing Favre, even though the season is lost?

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in all seriousness, I think it depends what Favre thinks
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Hmmmm....if you're right, that's not the best situation IMO.
 
Lord Farve is the guy running this franchise. He doesn't like Rogers, so he's out. I don't think he likes Ingle, either, so he's out. Werd on the street is he doesn't like Quinn much either, so he's out. Werd is, Favre likes Favre. So, he's in. All hail Lord Favre! :bow:

 
Lord Farve is the guy running this franchise. He doesn't like Rogers, so he's out. I don't think he likes Ingle, either, so he's out. Werd on the street is he doesn't like Quinn much either, so he's out.  Werd is, Favre likes Favre. So, he's in. All hail Lord Favre!  :bow:

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:confused: Now that's a Favre hater Big Score will be proud to support. :thumbup:

 
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Lord Farve is the guy running this franchise. He doesn't like Rogers, so he's out. I don't think he likes Ingle, either, so he's out. Werd on the street is he doesn't like Quinn much either, so he's out.  Werd is, Favre likes Favre. So, he's in. All hail Lord Favre!  :bow:

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We need to set up Favre bashers spelling bee. :lmao:
 
I think that draft was a bust for qb's the talent wasn't as great as this historic draft of 2006. I'm not going to right him off. But I'd rather have V Young or Cutler over a second year Rogers.

 
I think that draft was a bust for qb's the talent wasn't as great as this historic draft of 2006. I'm not going to right him off. But I'd rather have V Young or Cutler over a second year Rogers.

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I can't make that call without first seeing all these guys in NFL games for a couple of seasons, but I get your drift.
 
If the season is coming to a close and the Pack are out of it, do any of you see Rodgers getting any real game time experience?

Or would McCarthy & Thompson have too much pressure on them to continue playing Favre, even though the season is lost?

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See 2005.
 
they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

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Did the kid ever have a chance? Favre immediately said it wasn't his job to mentor him. I thought he was far from ready for the NFL so another year on the bench will do him good - assuming Favre is willing to put down his ego and try to help the guy become a decent QB.
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Assuming Favre is huh?He already has...do a search for Rodgers talking about Favre and you will see the crap about Favre not helping him is just that...crap. He stated it was not his job...not that he was not going to do it...and by all accounts, including Rodgers himself, Favre has been quite good in helping him out.

 
Hey Flawed, rough day? deep breaths man, deep breaths.

It's NOT Favre's responsibility to mentor/tutor Rodgers but IMO it's a natural progression in the game when a player gets old and the new young guy comes in. Favre's not disillusionned thinking he'll play forever. Why not work with the young guy and continue the franchise's good fortune?(not so much recent good fortune but they won for a change with him) I think it's cruddy of him not to but it doesn't make m think he's evil or a bad player etc. Not everyone agrees with all my decisions either so...

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He is working with the young guy....read more than the one quote where he stated it was not his job to do so...then get back to me.
 
Hey Flawed, rough day? deep breaths man, deep breaths.

It's NOT Favre's responsibility to mentor/tutor Rodgers but IMO it's a natural progression in the game when a player gets old and the new young guy comes in. Favre's not disillusionned thinking he'll play forever. Why not work with the young guy and continue the franchise's good fortune?(not so much recent good fortune but they won for a change with him) I think it's cruddy of him not to but it doesn't make m think he's evil or a bad player etc. Not everyone agrees with all my decisions either so...

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He is working with the young guy....read more than the one quote where he stated it was not his job to do so...then get back to me.
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yeah I don't read enough about football :loco:
 
Hey Flawed, rough day? deep breaths man, deep breaths.

It's NOT Favre's responsibility to mentor/tutor Rodgers but IMO it's a natural progression in the game when a player gets old and the new young guy comes in. Favre's not disillusionned thinking he'll play forever. Why not work with the young guy and continue the franchise's good fortune?(not so much recent good fortune but they won for a change with him) I think it's cruddy of him not to but it doesn't make m think he's evil or a bad player etc. Not everyone agrees with all my decisions either so...

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He is working with the young guy....read more than the one quote where he stated it was not his job to do so...then get back to me.
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yeah I don't read enough about football :loco:
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Obviously.If you are willing to act as if he has not worked at all with Rodgers because of the one quote...you need to read much more.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/N...eubauer2021.htm

“I’m picking his brain constantly in practice or on the sideline or in between series,” Rodgers said. “He’s been very helpful. It’s been a lot of fun getting to know him and getting to watch him up close and personal.”

“I didn’t expect Brett to give me any special favors or anything. I just wanted him to be him. And he’s definitely done that. Any time I’ve had a question, I’ve approached him, and he’s been quick to help me out,” he said. “He’s even been quick to say, ‘Hey, rook, what were you thinking?’ or ‘You should have done this.’ I just eat it up and write it all down. I’m just soaking it in. I’ve just got a great opportunity here to come in and learn from one of the greatest quarterbacks, if not the greatest quarterback, of all time.”
 
Hey Flawed, rough day? deep breaths man, deep breaths.

It's NOT Favre's responsibility to mentor/tutor Rodgers but IMO it's a natural progression in the game when a player gets old and the new young guy comes in. Favre's not disillusionned thinking he'll play forever. Why not work with the young guy and continue the franchise's good fortune?(not so much recent good fortune but they won for a change with him) I think it's cruddy of him not to but it doesn't make m think he's evil or a bad player etc. Not everyone agrees with all my decisions either so...

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He is working with the young guy....read more than the one quote where he stated it was not his job to do so...then get back to me.
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yeah I don't read enough about football :loco:
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Obviously.If you are willing to act as if he has not worked at all with Rodgers because of the one quote...you need to read much more.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/N...eubauer2021.htm

“I’m picking his brain constantly in practice or on the sideline or in between series,” Rodgers said. “He’s been very helpful. It’s been a lot of fun getting to know him and getting to watch him up close and personal.”

“I didn’t expect Brett to give me any special favors or anything. I just wanted him to be him. And he’s definitely done that. Any time I’ve had a question, I’ve approached him, and he’s been quick to help me out,” he said. “He’s even been quick to say, ‘Hey, rook, what were you thinking?’ or ‘You should have done this.’ I just eat it up and write it all down. I’m just soaking it in. I’ve just got a great opportunity here to come in and learn from one of the greatest quarterbacks, if not the greatest quarterback, of all time.”
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I don't understand what kind of fishing expedition you're going on here nor do I care. You have a nice day
 
Hey Flawed, rough day? deep breaths man, deep breaths.

It's NOT Favre's responsibility to mentor/tutor Rodgers but IMO it's a natural progression in the game when a player gets old and the new young guy comes in. Favre's not disillusionned thinking he'll play forever. Why not work with the young guy and continue the franchise's good fortune?(not so much recent good fortune but they won for a change with him) I think it's cruddy of him not to but it doesn't make m think he's evil or a bad player etc. Not everyone agrees with all my decisions either so...

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He is working with the young guy....read more than the one quote where he stated it was not his job to do so...then get back to me.
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yeah I don't read enough about football :loco:
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Obviously.If you are willing to act as if he has not worked at all with Rodgers because of the one quote...you need to read much more.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/N...eubauer2021.htm

“I’m picking his brain constantly in practice or on the sideline or in between series,” Rodgers said. “He’s been very helpful. It’s been a lot of fun getting to know him and getting to watch him up close and personal.”

“I didn’t expect Brett to give me any special favors or anything. I just wanted him to be him. And he’s definitely done that. Any time I’ve had a question, I’ve approached him, and he’s been quick to help me out,” he said. “He’s even been quick to say, ‘Hey, rook, what were you thinking?’ or ‘You should have done this.’ I just eat it up and write it all down. I’m just soaking it in. I’ve just got a great opportunity here to come in and learn from one of the greatest quarterbacks, if not the greatest quarterback, of all time.”
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I don't understand what kind of fishing expedition you're going on here nor do I care. You have a nice day
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What fishing...your exact words..."Favre's not disillusionned thinking he'll play forever. Why not work with the young guy and continue the franchise's good fortune?(not so much recent good fortune but they won for a change with him) I think it's cruddy of him not to but it doesn't make m think he's evil or a bad player etc. Not everyone agrees with all my decisions either so..."

Refuted by quotes I just provided. Any other questions...or are you just going to continue to think Favre is not helping or not going to help Rodgers?

 
I'm not sure I want Favre showing Rodgers how to play the game. Favre has made numberous plays that even he came away amazed by. The last thing Green Bay needs is Rodgers thinking he can do the same. Favre is not a teacher and there is not much I believe he can teach Rodgers that the coaching staff cannot.

 
I'm not sure I want Favre showing Rodgers how to play the game.  Favre has made numberous plays that even he came away amazed by.  The last thing Green Bay needs is Rodgers thinking he can do the same.  Favre is not a teacher and there is not much I believe he can teach Rodgers that the coaching staff cannot.

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I'm sure Favre is giving him pointers on reading D alignments and the proper check downs etc....I don't think Favre could teach Rodgers to be Favre, even if he wanted to.

 
they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though
Well they may have shopped him, I didn't hear that rumor. Given that Ted Thompson the GM learned from Ron Wolf, most of the press that was out there about drafting a QB was far from the truth. Since they had a chance to draft a different QB and passed I don't give much credit to this.As for the GB offensive, he was never in the same offensive completely with just some new winkles. Sherman ran a different version of offensive than Holmgren did. Now they have a new coach. Who is putting in a zone-blocking scheme and is changing the offensive again.

The link was already made but Rodgers got most of the snaps in the past mini-camp and looked pretty good.

He is going to get another year to sit and learn and it is way to early to call him a bust.

 
Yikes, not good news for Aaron Rodgers fans. http://www.jsonline.com/blog/?id=3

One of the questions scouts raised about quarterback Aaron Rodgers going into last year's draft was his ability to throw the deep ball with accuracy. In the first team session, on a cool but not particularly windy morning on the Clarke Hinkle Practice Field, Rodgers overthrew a wide open Robert Ferguson on a deep post. In seven-on-seven, Rodgers overthrew an open Donald Driver on a deep pass and also threw incomplete to rookie wide receiver Greg Jennings on a deep sideline pattern. Rodgers put the ball over Jennings' outside shoulder and Jennings got his hands on it, but couldn't haul it in. And even if he had, it didn't appear that he could have gotten both feet down in-bounds. In the final team session, Rodgers underthrew a deep ball to rookie wide receiver Ruvell Martin and it was intercepted by safety Marvel Underwood. With Brett Favre skipping the camp, Rodgers worked with the No. 1 offense and took 50% of the snaps.
 
Yikes, not good news for Aaron Rodgers fans. http://www.jsonline.com/blog/?id=3

One of the questions scouts raised about quarterback Aaron Rodgers going into last year's draft was his ability to throw the deep ball with accuracy. In the first team session, on a cool but not particularly windy morning on the Clarke Hinkle Practice Field, Rodgers overthrew a wide open Robert Ferguson on a deep post. In seven-on-seven, Rodgers overthrew an open Donald Driver on a deep pass and also threw incomplete to rookie wide receiver Greg Jennings on a deep sideline pattern. Rodgers put the ball over Jennings' outside shoulder and Jennings got his hands on it, but couldn't haul it in. And even if he had, it didn't appear that he could have gotten both feet down in-bounds. In the final team session, Rodgers underthrew a deep ball to rookie wide receiver Ruvell Martin and it was intercepted by safety Marvel Underwood. With Brett Favre skipping the camp, Rodgers worked with the No. 1 offense and took 50% of the snaps.
good Jennings is rolling with the first unit even if it's May
 
Nobody has addressed the fact that to trade away a QB that cost you a lot in upfront money has huge cap implications. I would very much doubt that the Packers were trying to trade Rogers.

 
Nobody has addressed the fact that to trade away a QB that cost you a lot in upfront money has huge cap implications. I would very much doubt that the Packers were trying to trade Rogers.
Could also be a major reason why they didn't find any takers, if they indeed shopped him.
 
they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time.
Wow, a post that starts with 100% BS statement. Link? You are clueless.
When have you seen me post a BS news story "here"? Been here since ol' yeller, probably started a few thousand news type threads.Well?

What sort of link do you want, I'll get it for you?

You tell me

ETA link provided top of page 3.

 
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Nobody has addressed the fact that to trade away a QB that cost you a lot in upfront money has huge cap implications. I would very much doubt that the Packers were trying to trade Rogers.
All teams eat a bunch of money every year and this is a somewhat commonplace grrr sorta thing team owners(payroll) have to accept. You can look at any teams cap figures and see that. Not something they want to do but yet feel it's necessary.Last article I saw was how much the Titans are/will/may "eat" if McNair doesn't start for them. Do they have to? No they could start him, but how many articles have you seen about him playing elsewhere or being cut etc.?

You post here alot Ozy, this can't be news to you

 

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