Aaron Rodgers...first class guy (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

To be honest, you look like the abuse victim...

From your previous posts, I had believed you were above personal attacks. Didn't figure this to be a topic that would upset you that much. It's pretty ridiculous to turn this around and make it about anything other that Rodgers.

Way to read one sentence. If you had kept going you would see that everything I wrote was based on your post, not who you are. I don't know who you are. I can only go by your words. And you seem to have it in for Rodgers, who looks like another successful Packer QB who will offer a decade of sadness for division rivals. But I can't remove that chip from your shoulder, so I don't think I can change your mind.

Everything you wrote was based upon your knowledge of me as a Viking fan and was an ad hominem attack, it's pretty clear that's all you're interested in because you're sticking to that point by again referencing information that simply isn't relevant. Again, I'm not involved in this situation so lashing out at me because of who I selected as "Follows Closely" is pretty silly. If you want to be a one trick pony and try to force the conversation in that direction I am sorry, I won't follow you.The topic is Rodgers' ignoring a woman he was familiar with enough to know she was a cancer patient. It's easy to give out money, especially when you have it in near unlimited amounts, but when it comes down to a few precious seconds that make all the difference for someone who is running out of them, and you choose to say, "Sorry babe, can't stop-I've got a Championship wrestling match to pretend I won," your real personality shines through.If "you can judge a society by how it treats it's weakest members" is true, then you can decide for yourself what type of a man would do what Rodgers did. Most of you are o.k. with it. Many people were aghast that the NFL would give Vick a second chance, but when you're confronted with visual evidence of the absence of human decency you shrug. Maddening.

Drop it. TIA.J

 

[nlgb1]

To be honest, you look like the abuse victim...

From your previous posts, I had believed you were above personal attacks. Didn't figure this to be a topic that would upset you that much. It's pretty ridiculous to turn this around and make it about anything other that Rodgers.

Way to read one sentence. If you had kept going you would see that everything I wrote was based on your post, not who you are. I don't know who you are. I can only go by your words. And you seem to have it in for Rodgers, who looks like another successful Packer QB who will offer a decade of sadness for division rivals. But I can't remove that chip from your shoulder, so I don't think I can change your mind.

Everything you wrote was based upon your knowledge of me as a Viking fan and was an ad hominem attack, it's pretty clear that's all you're interested in because you're sticking to that point by again referencing information that simply isn't relevant. Again, I'm not involved in this situation so lashing out at me because of who I selected as "Follows Closely" is pretty silly. If you want to be a one trick pony and try to force the conversation in that direction I am sorry, I won't follow you.The topic is Rodgers' ignoring a woman he was familiar with enough to know she was a cancer patient. It's easy to give out money, especially when you have it in near unlimited amounts, but when it comes down to a few precious seconds that make all the difference for someone who is running out of them, and you choose to say, "Sorry babe, can't stop-I've got a Championship wrestling match to pretend I won," your real personality shines through.If "you can judge a society by how it treats it's weakest members" is true, then you can decide for yourself what type of a man would do what Rodgers did. Most of you are o.k. with it. Many people were aghast that the NFL would give Vick a second chance, but when you're confronted with visual evidence of the absence of human decency you shrug. Maddening.

Drop it. TIA.J

 

[Sabertooth]

Florio doing some backpedaling today on PFT.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Florio doing some backpedaling today on PFT.

Does Florio have any credibility anymore? All he ever does is backpedal these days.

 

[Sabertooth]

Florio doing some backpedaling today on PFT.

Does Florio have any credibility anymore? All he ever does is backpedal these days.

I don't read him. Doesn't sound like a lot.

 

[massraider]

Fantastically embarrassing stuff in here.



You know, a 'first class guy' would come in here and man up.

 

[tdmills]

Fantastically embarrassing stuff in here. You know, a 'first class guy' would come in here and man up.

You mean like one of the best QB's in the league "didn't see" a women 1 foot away from him. That sounds like a man up move from Rodgers

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Fantastically embarrassing stuff in here. You know, a 'first class guy' would come in here and man up.

You mean like one of the best QB's in the league "didn't see" a women 1 foot away from him. That sounds like a man up move from Rodgers

 

[CrossEyed]

Fantastically embarrassing stuff in here. You know, a 'first class guy' would come in here and man up.

You mean like one of the best QB's in the league "didn't see" a women 1 foot away from him. That sounds like a man up move from Rodgers

FYI, you're embarrassing yourself in here.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Fantastically embarrassing stuff in here. You know, a 'first class guy' would come in here and man up.

You mean like one of the best QB's in the league "didn't see" a women 1 foot away from him. That sounds like a man up move from Rodgers

FYI, you're embarrassing yourself in here.

 

[The_Wolfman]

If there's anything that's clear from this thread it's that Aaron Rodgers hates people with cancer. I'm sure glad he's not the QB for my team.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

If there's anything that's clear from this thread it's that Aaron Rodgers hates people with cancer. I'm sure glad he's not the QB for my team.

Why do these posts continue?

 

[tdmills]

Fantastically embarrassing stuff in here. You know, a 'first class guy' would come in here and man up.

You mean like one of the best QB's in the league "didn't see" a women 1 foot away from him. That sounds like a man up move from Rodgers

FYI, you're embarrassing yourself in here.

If only I cared what people thought of me on a message board.Nobody has yet to explain to me how he didn't see her a foot away.

 

[sho nuff]

Fantastically embarrassing stuff in here. You know, a 'first class guy' would come in here and man up.

You mean like one of the best QB's in the league "didn't see" a women 1 foot away from him. That sounds like a man up move from Rodgers

FYI, you're embarrassing yourself in here.

If only I cared what people thought of me on a message board.Nobody has yet to explain to me how he didn't see her a foot away.

You have yet to explain how he did see exactly who she was as he walked by pretty focused ahead of him and not to the fans at that point.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Fantastically embarrassing stuff in here. You know, a 'first class guy' would come in here and man up.

You mean like one of the best QB's in the league "didn't see" a women 1 foot away from him. That sounds like a man up move from Rodgers

FYI, you're embarrassing yourself in here.

New here?

 

[The Westin]

If there's anything that's clear from this thread it's that Aaron Rodgers hates people with cancer. I'm sure glad he's not the QB for my team.

Quality post

 

[Mr.Pack]

If there's anything that's clear from this thread it's that Aaron Rodgers hates people with cancer. I'm sure glad he's not the QB for my team.

Quality post

See his location?Nuff' said.

 

[The Westin]

If there's anything that's clear from this thread it's that Aaron Rodgers hates people with cancer. I'm sure glad he's not the QB for my team.

Quality post

See his location?Nuff' said.

It's all in good fun. Come on, laugh a little. I'm a Packer fan...but you have to laugh at stuff like this. If it was Jay Cutler...I'd probably post something very similar to it.

 

[flapgreen]

Rodgers snubbing a cancer patient.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Rodgers snubbing a cancer patient.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/...-jan-cavanaugh/Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers appeared today on The Dan Patrick Show. During the interview, Rodgers addressed the video that appeared over the weekend on WBAY-TV in Green Bay, with Rodgers walking past Packers fan and cancer survivor Jan Cavanaugh as she sought an autograph.

“I’ve met Jan on previous occasions,” Rodgers said. “As the video shows, I didn’t see her. I didn’t sign for her. It turned into something I didn’t really expect.”

Thee now-yanked story shows a terminal at Austin Straubel Airport containing a group of Packers fans, seeing the Packers off to Atlanta on Friday of last week. In the video, Cavanaugh explains that she has a pink hat that she hopes Rodgers will sign it. And the very next image shows Rodgers strolling by with buds in his ears and the “force field” demeanor that we often see from celebrities who are being pursued by paparazzi.

When I saw the video for the first time, I cringed. Many of you did the same. But then I did what we bloggers (or whatever we are) all too often do — I fired off a rebuke of Rodgers without considering anything else about the other things he has done, both publicly and privately, over the years.

Gregg Doyel of CBS has provided an excellent look at Rodgers’ good deeds, including his work for Midwest Athletes Against Childhood Cancer. You should read Gregg’s article. It’s an eye opener. And I commend Rodgers for his efforts. In many respects, he has shown his appreciation of and concern for the citizens of Green Bay and Wisconsin. If Packers fans hadn’t previously embraced him like they’d embraced Brett Favre, their reaction to the criticism of Rodgers from me and others shows that they now have.

I apologize to Rodgers for painting him with an unjustifiably broad brush based on a very brief slice of his life. It was wrong to jump to conclusions about whether he treats fans properly, and whether he understands the connection between the fans who support him and the money he makes. Though some have argued that true character is revealed in those fleeting moments, the whole truth about a man falls somewhere between his best days and his worst days. For Rodgers, there’s no reason to believe that the truth isn’t a lot closer to the best than the worst.

I apologize to Packers fans for distracting you from the afterglow of a game that has ushered in a new golden age of Green Bay football. With a stirring win over the top-seeded Falcons and a historic postseason contest against the Bears on the horizon, you shouldn’t have had to worry about an opinion that I delivered too quickly, too strongly, and too stubbornly. I allowed emotions based on my own experiences to overcome reason, and I hope in the future to be able to take a step back before sharing the full thrust of my initial reaction on these pages, especially when the reaction is fueled by emotion based on my own experiences.

I also apologize to Jan Cavanaugh. As Armando Salguero explained it earlier today during my weekly visit with WFTL in South Florida, I tried to rescue a damsel in distress before determining whether she wanted to be rescued. (Actually, that’s sort of how I met my wife.) I should have realized that this would bring attention she doesn’t want or need, and I would have if I hadn’t shared the full thrust of my initial reaction without thinking it through or looking into the good things Rodgers has done.

No one with PFT or NBC has asked me to apologize, and no one has forced me to apologize. (We continue to have full editorial control over the content of the site, and NBC has honored that commitment since day one of our partnership.) I’ve had two nights to sleep on it and plenty of other time to think about it. Once my anger at being wrongfully accused of running a payola scheme subsided and my Italian nature to never give in wore off, I realized that I felt bad. And I realized that I’d only feel better if I apologized.

Hopefully, we’ve all learned something from this experience. I know I have. And rather than listing, as I ordinarily would, all the other lessons that I think everyone else involved in this situation should learn, I’ll shut up and move on and let folks come to their own conclusions about what they may do differently when confronted with similar circumstances in the future.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Fantastically embarrassing stuff in here.



You know, a 'first class guy' would come in here and man up.

You mean like one of the best QB's in the league "didn't see" a women 1 foot away from him. That sounds like a man up move from Rodgers

FYI, you're embarrassing yourself in here.

If only I cared what people thought of me on a message board.Nobody has yet to explain to me how he didn't see her a foot away.

Here's what you are really missing TDMills. Aaron Rodgers is a good person. If you haven't read all of the links and stories posted in this thread, than you should. I would bet that he has volunteered more of his TIME to charity than half the Shark Pool combined, and the guys is 27 years old.

He got caught on video doing something embarrassing. He didn't acknowledge the presence of a fan. On top of that she was a cancer patient. So does that make Rodgers a bad guy?

Every one of us could be caught doing something akin to this if we had video cameras trained on us as much as they are on Rodgers. Sometimes I donate money to charity. Sometimes I don't. Sometimes I don't even pay attention to somebody standing in the freezing cold ringing a bell for charity. I'm not proud of that, and I could certainly be made to look bad in a 2 second video clip. I think everyone else here realizes they have had moments when they could have been more generous with their time or money, or even just more courteous to another person. Getting caught in a moment like that doesn't make someone a bad person. We've all done it, and have come to grips with the idea that these isolated moments don't necessarily define us as a person, so long as the body of work that we put forth is good.

That is comparing him to us. Now compare him to his peers.

Big Ben is probably guilty of raping a girl.

Tom Brady dumped his pregnant actress girlfriend for a supermodel.

Brett Favre sexually harasses women and cheats on his wife.

Jamarcus Russell took the money and ran.

Those are just a few examples of QBs. I could go on forever, but I hope you get the idea.

 

[tdmills]

Fantastically embarrassing stuff in here.



You know, a 'first class guy' would come in here and man up.

You mean like one of the best QB's in the league "didn't see" a women 1 foot away from him. That sounds like a man up move from Rodgers

FYI, you're embarrassing yourself in here.

If only I cared what people thought of me on a message board.Nobody has yet to explain to me how he didn't see her a foot away.

Here's what you are really missing TDMills. Aaron Rodgers is a good person. If you haven't read all of the links and stories posted in this thread, than you should. I would bet that he has volunteered more of his TIME to charity than half the Shark Pool combined, and the guys is 27 years old.

He got caught on video doing something embarrassing. He didn't acknowledge the presence of a fan. On top of that she was a cancer patient. So does that make Rodgers a bad guy?

Every one of us could be caught doing something akin to this if we had video cameras trained on us as much as they are on Rodgers. Sometimes I donate money to charity. Sometimes I don't. Sometimes I don't even pay attention to somebody standing in the freezing cold ringing a bell for charity. I'm not proud of that, and I could certainly be made to look bad in a 2 second video clip. I think everyone else here realizes they have had moments when they could have been more generous with their time or money, or even just more courteous to another person. Getting caught in a moment like that doesn't make someone a bad person. We've all done it, and have come to grips with the idea that these isolated moments don't necessarily define us as a person, so long as the body of work that we put forth is good.

That is comparing him to us. Now compare him to his peers.

Big Ben is probably guilty of raping a girl.

Tom Brady dumped his pregnant actress girlfriend for a supermodel.

Brett Favre sexually harasses women and cheats on his wife.

Jamarcus Russell took the money and ran.

Those are just a few examples of QBs. I could go on forever, but I hope you get the idea.

I give you kudos for a thorough post.Aaron Rodgers isn't a bad guy. My "first class guy" first post was just being facetious and in good fun.

Rodgers snubbed one fan, it happens often from athletes i'm sure. I found it funny and posted it. I wish he would've owned up to seeing her, but we can't have everything.

I listened to his Radio interview with Dan Patrick, he isn't a bad guy. Rodgers fans need to lighten up, the guy is playing great, I know how dare anyone say something negative about him. Haha.

 

[tdmills]

If there's anything that's clear from this thread it's that Aaron Rodgers hates people with cancer. I'm sure glad he's not the QB for my team.

Quality post

See his location?Nuff' said.

It's all in good fun. Come on, laugh a little. I'm a Packer fan...but you have to laugh at stuff like this. If it was Jay Cutler...I'd probably post something very similar to it.

This guy gets it. If it was Kobe, Lebron, Tiger, the Pope it would still be funny.

 

[Eric Stratton]

I give you kudos for a thorough post.

Aaron Rodgers isn't a bad guy. My "first class guy" first post was just being facetious and in good fun.

Rodgers snubbed one fan, it happens often from athletes i'm sure. I found it funny and posted it. I wish he would've owned up to seeing her, but we can't have everything.

I listened to his Radio interview with Dan Patrick, he isn't a bad guy. Rodgers fans need to lighten up, the guy is playing great, I know how dare anyone say something negative about him. Haha.

Because he didn't deserve to have anything negative said about him about what happened. Florio apologized because he knew he was wrong. You kept on and on in this thread trying to rip on Rodgers for something he didn't deserve. Yeah....that's good fun for a Bear fan.

 

[tdmills]

I give you kudos for a thorough post.

Aaron Rodgers isn't a bad guy. My "first class guy" first post was just being facetious and in good fun.

Rodgers snubbed one fan, it happens often from athletes i'm sure. I found it funny and posted it. I wish he would've owned up to seeing her, but we can't have everything.

I listened to his Radio interview with Dan Patrick, he isn't a bad guy. Rodgers fans need to lighten up, the guy is playing great, I know how dare anyone say something negative about him. Haha.

Because he didn't deserve to have anything negative said about him about what happened. Florio apologized because he knew he was wrong. You kept on and on in this thread trying to rip on Rodgers for something he didn't deserve. Yeah....that's good fun for a Bear fan.

1) I haven't went on and on about trying to rip Rodgers. I've never stated he is a horrible guy and a bad human being or a bad football player. The title "first class guy" is clearly a facetious statement.2) Just because I poke fun at this youtube clip doesn't mean i'm a Bears fan because i'm not.

 

[Eric Stratton]

I give you kudos for a thorough post.

Aaron Rodgers isn't a bad guy. My "first class guy" first post was just being facetious and in good fun.

Rodgers snubbed one fan, it happens often from athletes i'm sure. I found it funny and posted it. I wish he would've owned up to seeing her, but we can't have everything.

I listened to his Radio interview with Dan Patrick, he isn't a bad guy. Rodgers fans need to lighten up, the guy is playing great, I know how dare anyone say something negative about him. Haha.

Because he didn't deserve to have anything negative said about him about what happened. Florio apologized because he knew he was wrong. You kept on and on in this thread trying to rip on Rodgers for something he didn't deserve. Yeah....that's good fun for a Bear fan.

1) I haven't went on and on about trying to rip Rodgers. I've never stated he is a horrible guy and a bad human being or a bad football player. The title "first class guy" is clearly a facetious statement.2) Just because I poke fun at this youtube clip doesn't mean i'm a Bears fan because i'm not.

Oh really....what is this? "You mean like one of the best QB's in the league "didn't see" a women 1 foot away from him. That sounds like a man up move from Rodgers "You may have started with your "facetious statement" but you continued on and on in this thread. Nice backpeddle though.

 

[flapgreen]

Rodgers snubbing a cancer patient.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/...-jan-cavanaugh/Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers appeared today on The Dan Patrick Show. During the interview, Rodgers addressed the video that appeared over the weekend on WBAY-TV in Green Bay, with Rodgers walking past Packers fan and cancer survivor Jan Cavanaugh as she sought an autograph.

“I’ve met Jan on previous occasions,” Rodgers said. “As the video shows, I didn’t see her. I didn’t sign for her. It turned into something I didn’t really expect.”

Thee now-yanked story shows a terminal at Austin Straubel Airport containing a group of Packers fans, seeing the Packers off to Atlanta on Friday of last week. In the video, Cavanaugh explains that she has a pink hat that she hopes Rodgers will sign it. And the very next image shows Rodgers strolling by with buds in his ears and the “force field” demeanor that we often see from celebrities who are being pursued by paparazzi.

When I saw the video for the first time, I cringed. Many of you did the same. But then I did what we bloggers (or whatever we are) all too often do — I fired off a rebuke of Rodgers without considering anything else about the other things he has done, both publicly and privately, over the years.

Gregg Doyel of CBS has provided an excellent look at Rodgers’ good deeds, including his work for Midwest Athletes Against Childhood Cancer. You should read Gregg’s article. It’s an eye opener. And I commend Rodgers for his efforts. In many respects, he has shown his appreciation of and concern for the citizens of Green Bay and Wisconsin. If Packers fans hadn’t previously embraced him like they’d embraced Brett Favre, their reaction to the criticism of Rodgers from me and others shows that they now have.

I apologize to Rodgers for painting him with an unjustifiably broad brush based on a very brief slice of his life. It was wrong to jump to conclusions about whether he treats fans properly, and whether he understands the connection between the fans who support him and the money he makes. Though some have argued that true character is revealed in those fleeting moments, the whole truth about a man falls somewhere between his best days and his worst days. For Rodgers, there’s no reason to believe that the truth isn’t a lot closer to the best than the worst.

I apologize to Packers fans for distracting you from the afterglow of a game that has ushered in a new golden age of Green Bay football. With a stirring win over the top-seeded Falcons and a historic postseason contest against the Bears on the horizon, you shouldn’t have had to worry about an opinion that I delivered too quickly, too strongly, and too stubbornly. I allowed emotions based on my own experiences to overcome reason, and I hope in the future to be able to take a step back before sharing the full thrust of my initial reaction on these pages, especially when the reaction is fueled by emotion based on my own experiences.

I also apologize to Jan Cavanaugh. As Armando Salguero explained it earlier today during my weekly visit with WFTL in South Florida, I tried to rescue a damsel in distress before determining whether she wanted to be rescued. (Actually, that’s sort of how I met my wife.) I should have realized that this would bring attention she doesn’t want or need, and I would have if I hadn’t shared the full thrust of my initial reaction without thinking it through or looking into the good things Rodgers has done.

No one with PFT or NBC has asked me to apologize, and no one has forced me to apologize. (We continue to have full editorial control over the content of the site, and NBC has honored that commitment since day one of our partnership.) I’ve had two nights to sleep on it and plenty of other time to think about it. Once my anger at being wrongfully accused of running a payola scheme subsided and my Italian nature to never give in wore off, I realized that I felt bad. And I realized that I’d only feel better if I apologized.

Hopefully, we’ve all learned something from this experience. I know I have. And rather than listing, as I ordinarily would, all the other lessons that I think everyone else involved in this situation should learn, I’ll shut up and move on and let folks come to their own conclusions about what they may do differently when confronted with similar circumstances in the future.

I meant it sounded ridiculous. The biggest losers wouldn't do that. The woman didn't even mention it.

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

Fantastically embarrassing stuff in here. You know, a 'first class guy' would come in here and man up.

You mean like one of the best QB's in the league "didn't see" a women 1 foot away from him. That sounds like a man up move from Rodgers

You could bet your bottom that if that cancer patient were a cookie and if Rodgers had been Rosie O'Donnell, you wouldn't have seen Rosie walk by without at least stopping to chat... or maybe taking a small nibble. and I apologize in advance to all fans of cookies as clearly that was an insensitive thing to say....But seriously... I think we all just need to lighten up a bit. I think its hilarious that people are getting upset over a non-story. None of us know what its like to have our attention sought after every minute of nearly every day. Why would we have any reason to believe that Rodgers explanation on the DP show wasn't accurate? As far as I'm concerned he has always seemed like a straight shooter ever since he's been given the reigns. He's never seemed afraid to talk about the Favre situation from the start and I know that prolly wasn't easy.

 

[The_Wolfman]

If there's anything that's clear from this thread it's that Aaron Rodgers hates people with cancer. I'm sure glad he's not the QB for my team.

Quality post

See his location?Nuff' said.

It's all in good fun. Come on, laugh a little. I'm a Packer fan...but you have to laugh at stuff like this. If it was Jay Cutler...I'd probably post something very similar to it.

This guy gets it. If it was Kobe, Lebron, Tiger, the Pope it would still be funny.

Just a little friendly To me this is not a big deal but it is kind of funny how blown out of proportion things get sometimes.

 

[massraider]

The minute it became apparent that the story was a non-story, and that Rodgers not only knew the lady, and had in fact signed an autograph for her the previous week, you should have just come in here and said "my bad". Instead, we get lame arguments, claims of not caring what people say, and the ultra-lame, "i was kidding, lighten up....", when in fact the guy that started the thread (you) could have been told to lighten up. Athletes cannot sign every autograph, and sure can't diagnos every patient/fan they walk by. Was she wearing a 'Cancer Patient' ballcap or something?

 

[Ookie Pringle]

The minute it became apparent that the story was a non-story, and that Rodgers not only knew the lady, and had in fact signed an autograph for her the previous week, you should have just come in here and said "my bad". Instead, we get lame arguments, claims of not caring what people say, and the ultra-lame, "i was kidding, lighten up....", when in fact the guy that started the thread (you) could have been told to lighten up. Athletes cannot sign every autograph, and sure can't diagnos every patient/fan they walk by. Was she wearing a 'Cancer Patient' ballcap or something?

 

[Joe Bryant]

The minute it became apparent that the story was a non-story, and that Rodgers not only knew the lady, and had in fact signed an autograph for her the previous week, you should have just come in here and said "my bad". Instead, we get lame arguments, claims of not caring what people say, and the ultra-lame, "i was kidding, lighten up....", when in fact the guy that started the thread (you) could have been told to lighten up. Athletes cannot sign every autograph, and sure can't diagnos every patient/fan they walk by. Was she wearing a 'Cancer Patient' ballcap or something?

Agreed. You were wrong. The right move would have been to man up and admit and not backpedal calling it facetious. Lots of pissing in this thread. Come back later maybe and please turn it down.J