Adam Carriker traded to Washington (1 Viewer)

[bulger2holt]

What would the Skins offer ?

 

[Harjiran]

What would the Skins offer ?

Maybe Andre Carter? Just a guess.

 

[ichris]

Wouldn't this move give the Rams more reasons to pick Suh?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Wouldn't this move give the Rams more reasons to pick Suh?

well yeah, but I dont think they will just give carriker away.

 

[bulger2holt]

Carriker can be a force if he stays healthy, which he has yet to do. He's a large man. 6'6 310

 

[Blackjacks]

I'd take a third or Andre Carter but preferabbly a pick

 

[Blackjacks]

Wouldn't this move give the Rams more reasons to pick Suh?

Technically we have our starting DT's on the roster right now in Robbins and Clifton Ryan. Cutting Carriker or trading him doesn't at all open up a starting spot for Suh. I am a Rams fan who is convinced the #1 overall pick will be Bradford by us or someone trading up to it.

 

[pablito]

The talk in DC is that Andre Carter could indeed factor into this. He has a no-trade contract, but is unhappy about the move to a 3-4 and has expressed a desire to move for the "right" situation.

 

[Peggy Starfish]

What would the Skins offer ?

Maybe Andre Carter? Just a guess.

I'd take a third or Andre Carter but preferabbly a pick

This would make sense for both teams. Carter is a good 4-3 RDE (who's a machine, and who rarely misses plays, much less games) who can generate pass rush pressure, while Carriker is if anything best suited to play a 3-4 DE role. Carter is also known as a locker room leader. Spags is very familiar with Carter, and Haslett of course coached Carriker.

 

[mcintyre1]

What would the Skins offer ?

Maybe Andre Carter? Just a guess.

I'd take a third or Andre Carter but preferabbly a pick

This would make sense for both teams. Carter is a good 4-3 RDE (who's a machine, and who rarely misses plays, much less games) who can generate pass rush pressure, while Carriker is if anything best suited to play a 3-4 DE role. Carter is also known as a locker room leader. Spags is very familiar with Carter, and Haslett of course coached Carriker.

Carriker is absolutely a 3-4 DE. The Rams made a huge mistake in trying to convert him to DT. I really don't know what they were thinking. I hadn't heart a word about moving him to DT until the Rams surprised everyone and snagged him before SF could pick.

 

[Peggy Starfish]

What would the Skins offer ?

Maybe Andre Carter? Just a guess.

I'd take a third or Andre Carter but preferabbly a pick

This would make sense for both teams. Carter is a good 4-3 RDE (who's a machine, and who rarely misses plays, much less games) who can generate pass rush pressure, while Carriker is if anything best suited to play a 3-4 DE role. Carter is also known as a locker room leader. Spags is very familiar with Carter, and Haslett of course coached Carriker.

Carriker is absolutely a 3-4 DE. The Rams made a huge mistake in trying to convert him to DT. I really don't know what they were thinking. I hadn't heart a word about moving him to DT until the Rams surprised everyone and snagged him before SF could pick.

IMHO he's too tall to be a DT and can't get enough leverage against the more compact interior linemen unless he had absolutely perfect technique, which of course he didn't given the position change. Maybe he could shift inside to a DT in a 4-3 scheme on passing downs, but that's about it. He should have been a LDE in a 4-3, which is more of a combination of run-stopping and pass-rush than the RDE. I never understood why the Rams did that.

 

[thecatch]

What would the Skins offer ?

Maybe Andre Carter? Just a guess.

I'd take a third or Andre Carter but preferabbly a pick

This would make sense for both teams. Carter is a good 4-3 RDE (who's a machine, and who rarely misses plays, much less games) who can generate pass rush pressure, while Carriker is if anything best suited to play a 3-4 DE role. Carter is also known as a locker room leader. Spags is very familiar with Carter, and Haslett of course coached Carriker.

Carriker is absolutely a 3-4 DE. The Rams made a huge mistake in trying to convert him to DT. I really don't know what they were thinking. I hadn't heart a word about moving him to DT until the Rams surprised everyone and snagged him before SF could pick.

He was drafted after SF picked in 2007.

 

[HULLOBUDMAN]

Not to get off subject but I wonder if a KC/STL trade of Carriker for Dorsey would make sense. Rams get a DT while the Chiefs get someone more suited for their D. Dorsey showed improvement last year but I still don't think he has the quickness to play the 3-4 DE

 

[bulger2holt]

Not to get off subject but I wonder if a KC/STL trade of Carriker for Dorsey would make sense. Rams get a DT while the Chiefs get someone more suited for their D. Dorsey showed improvement last year but I still don't think he has the quickness to play the 3-4 DE

I would rather have Dorsey than old man Carter if I were the Rams. Carriker for Dorsey makes more sense, especially if the Rams want Bradford.

 

[Peggy Starfish]

Not to get off subject but I wonder if a KC/STL trade of Carriker for Dorsey would make sense. Rams get a DT while the Chiefs get someone more suited for their D. Dorsey showed improvement last year but I still don't think he has the quickness to play the 3-4 DE

I would rather have Dorsey than old man Carter if I were the Rams. Carriker for Dorsey makes more sense, especially if the Rams want Bradford.

"Old man Carter"? I don't think so. The guy's in phenomenal shape, played more snaps than any other defensive player (with the possible exception of London Fletcher), and is a good rush end. He also plays at a position at which guys are effective well into their 30's. Carter's a valuable player.

 

[bulger2holt]

Not to get off subject but I wonder if a KC/STL trade of Carriker for Dorsey would make sense. Rams get a DT while the Chiefs get someone more suited for their D. Dorsey showed improvement last year but I still don't think he has the quickness to play the 3-4 DE

I would rather have Dorsey than old man Carter if I were the Rams. Carriker for Dorsey makes more sense, especially if the Rams want Bradford.

"Old man Carter"? I don't think so. The guy's in phenomenal shape, played more snaps than any other defensive player (with the possible exception of London Fletcher), and is a good rush end. He also plays at a position at which guys are effective well into their 30's. Carter's a valuable player.

The Rams are trying to get younger ( with the exception of Robbins who is only a stop-gap player ), so I don't think Carter fits into that plan. I would rather have your #2 next year since you don't have one this year.

 

[thayman]

Not to get off subject but I wonder if a KC/STL trade of Carriker for Dorsey would make sense. Rams get a DT while the Chiefs get someone more suited for their D. Dorsey showed improvement last year but I still don't think he has the quickness to play the 3-4 DE

I would rather have Dorsey than old man Carter if I were the Rams. Carriker for Dorsey makes more sense, especially if the Rams want Bradford.

"Old man Carter"? I don't think so. The guy's in phenomenal shape, played more snaps than any other defensive player (with the possible exception of London Fletcher), and is a good rush end. He also plays at a position at which guys are effective well into their 30's. Carter's a valuable player.

The Rams are trying to get younger ( with the exception of Robbins who is only a stop-gap player ), so I don't think Carter fits into that plan. I would rather have your #2 next year since you don't have one this year.

The Redskins have a 2nd this year, they don't have a 3rd due to selecting Jarmon in the suplemental draft.

 

[southeastjerome]

Not to get off subject but I wonder if a KC/STL trade of Carriker for Dorsey would make sense. Rams get a DT while the Chiefs get someone more suited for their D. Dorsey showed improvement last year but I still don't think he has the quickness to play the 3-4 DE

I would rather have Dorsey than old man Carter if I were the Rams. Carriker for Dorsey makes more sense, especially if the Rams want Bradford.

"Old man Carter"? I don't think so. The guy's in phenomenal shape, played more snaps than any other defensive player (with the possible exception of London Fletcher), and is a good rush end. He also plays at a position at which guys are effective well into their 30's. Carter's a valuable player.

The Rams are trying to get younger ( with the exception of Robbins who is only a stop-gap player ), so I don't think Carter fits into that plan. I would rather have your #2 next year since you don't have one this year.

If Cerrato was still on board maybe he would do such a terrible deal like Carriker for a 2nd rounder.

 

[Marvelous]

Not to get off subject but I wonder if a KC/STL trade of Carriker for Dorsey would make sense. Rams get a DT while the Chiefs get someone more suited for their D. Dorsey showed improvement last year but I still don't think he has the quickness to play the 3-4 DE

I would rather have Dorsey than old man Carter if I were the Rams. Carriker for Dorsey makes more sense, especially if the Rams want Bradford.

"Old man Carter"? I don't think so. The guy's in phenomenal shape, played more snaps than any other defensive player (with the possible exception of London Fletcher), and is a good rush end. He also plays at a position at which guys are effective well into their 30's. Carter's a valuable player.

The Rams are trying to get younger ( with the exception of Robbins who is only a stop-gap player ), so I don't think Carter fits into that plan. I would rather have your #2 next year since you don't have one this year.

If Cerrato was still on board maybe he would do such a terrible deal like Carriker for a 2nd rounder.

It seemed like Cerrato regularly traded two picks for a player. He could not get rid of those draft picks fast enough.

 

[Sammy Traveller]

Not to get off subject but I wonder if a KC/STL trade of Carriker for Dorsey would make sense. Rams get a DT while the Chiefs get someone more suited for their D. Dorsey showed improvement last year but I still don't think he has the quickness to play the 3-4 DE

I would rather have Dorsey than old man Carter if I were the Rams. Carriker for Dorsey makes more sense, especially if the Rams want Bradford.

"Old man Carter"? I don't think so. The guy's in phenomenal shape, played more snaps than any other defensive player (with the possible exception of London Fletcher), and is a good rush end. He also plays at a position at which guys are effective well into their 30's. Carter's a valuable player.

The Rams are trying to get younger ( with the exception of Robbins who is only a stop-gap player ), so I don't think Carter fits into that plan. I would rather have your #2 next year since you don't have one this year.

If Cerrato was still on board maybe he would do such a terrible deal like Carriker for a 2nd rounder.

 

[bulger2holt]

Carriker is worth your 2nd this year. He's a beast when healthy and all indications are is he's healthy.

 

[Stitch]

Carriker is worth your 2nd this year. He's a beast when healthy and all indications are is he's healthy.

There is no way on God's green earth that Carriker would net a 2nd rounder. None at all.

 

[scratcher]

Unknown compensation

 

[RBM]

Always seemed like a good fit for a 3-4

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Scheffter did say that Albert Haynesworth wasn't part of the deal.

I really can't believe the Rams unloaded Carriker.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Not a bad move depending what they gave. The Redskins need a lot of help and I think Shanahan deserves benefit of the doubt.

 

[domvin]

Scheffter did say that Albert Haynesworth wasn't part of the deal. I really can't believe the Rams unloaded Carriker.

with few draft picks, wash probably unloaded a player?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Ut oh, if Campbell is involved cannot be good for the Lions

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Ut oh, if Campbell is involved cannot be good for the Lions

We might now know why they haven't signed Bradford. Suh-eee

 

[mikel0254]

Ut oh, if Campbell is involved cannot be good for the Lions

Actually, it could be the best thing for the Lions. Even though I want Suh as bad as any player in recent memory, we'll be able to trade back to someone who wants Bradford

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Some Redskins fans on Twitter seem convinced that they got Carriker for a 5th round pick. I have trouble buying that's all it took.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Albert Haynesworth HAS to be part of this deal.

It wouldn't make sense if he weren't.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Albert Haynesworth HAS to be part of this deal.It wouldn't make sense if he weren't.

he might be part of another deal

 

[southeastjerome]

Albert Haynesworth HAS to be part of this deal.It wouldn't make sense if he weren't.

Not really, the Rams could be planning on drafting one of the DT's.

 

[Honda]

from PFT:

Schefter didn't have the terms of the trade, but he did report that the trade does not involve Albert Haynesworth.

 

[southeastjerome]

Albert Haynesworth HAS to be part of this deal.It wouldn't make sense if he weren't.

he might be part of another deal

I've been a firm believer that all the rumors flying around were just that, rumors. Now I am beginning to think AH might be the next shoe to drop.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Are the Redskins just running their team using Madden Franchise Manager at this point?

 

[Honda]

Are the Redskins just running their team using Madden Franchise Manager at this point?

What do you mean "at this point"?

 

[southeastjerome]

5th round pick. Not a bad deal imo.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Some Redskins fans on Twitter seem convinced that they got Carriker for a 5th round pick. I have trouble buying that's all it took.

If that's the case and the Steelers didn't get in on this, I'll be pissed. If they could have flipped a 4th or their two non-compensatory 5ths for Carriker, that would have been beautiful.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Albert Haynesworth HAS to be part of this deal.It wouldn't make sense if he weren't.

he might be part of another deal

This. There is still time to move Haynesworth, especially after his roster bonus was paid. If the pieces fall in place, KC at 5 will be interesting w/ Bradford possibly still on the board.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Are the Redskins just running their team using Madden Franchise Manager at this point?

What do you mean "at this point"?

Sorry, I meant to post that in 1999 but just got around to hitting 'enter'.

 

[a_rackowski]

Andre Carter will be involved I would assume.

Carter and Campbell for Carriker?

 

[Donnybrook]

Wouldn't Carriker play DE rather than NT in the 34? Correct?

 

[Max Power]

5th round pick. Not a bad deal imo.

wow, thats it? really?

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Albert Haynesworth HAS to be part of this deal.It wouldn't make sense if he weren't.

he might be part of another deal

This. There is still time to move Haynesworth, especially after his roster bonus was paid. If the pieces fall in place, KC at 5 will be interesting w/ Bradford possibly still on the board.

No way in hell Bradford will still be on the board at 5.

 

[a_rackowski]

Assuming its Carter - I dont think that much changes at #1. Washington really does lack a legitimate pass rushing DE and Carter would provide that. He sure wont fit as a LB in Washington. Carriker fits nicely as a 3-4 DE.

 

[Jene Bramel]

I've always wondered why Carriker never blossomed in St. Louis. Minor injuries probably played a role and the coaching staffs never really seemed to like him at the three-technique, always wanting to play him over center. I think he's a great fit as a penetrating 5-technique DE when Haslett uses the 3-4 and as a potential three-technique tackle next to Haynesworth (making a shaky assumption that he stays) in the 4-3.

I hope he works out.

As for the Rams, they now arguably have one reasonably legit DE (unless you think highly of James Hall), one semi-legit DT, and one legit LB in the front seven. And they've pissed off their best secondary player and have serious issues with at least one corner spot. That defense is as ugly as any in the league.

 

[Masked Vigilante]

Has Carriker been that big of a disappointment? He was drafted in the top 15 a few years ago and is only 25.

 

[southeastjerome]

It wasn't a 5th. It was a swap of 5th round picks. St. Louis moves up with the pick from Philly, Skins move down.