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Addai misses practice with knee injury (1 Viewer)
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Nicolas Cocaign
Footballguy
Donald Brown looked solid last week. Even if Addai is ok and plays this week, this is probably an indication that Indy should probably limit his carries and work Brown in there a little more often. This might be the beginning of the changing of the guard, gents.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
purestrength
Footballguy
Addai looked solid too, though.
FavreAndAwayAnIdiot
Footballguy
Dude, people have been predicting (actually, hoping) for the demise of Addai for 2 years now. These are people who bought into the hype, drafted Brown entirely too early, and now are trying to justify their actions by latching on to any possible negative news they can find on Addai.
jimmyd9989
Footballguy
At what point do I start worrying for the rest of the season? I am in a 16 team league and my 3 backs are Steven Jackson, Ahmad Bradshaw, and Joseph Addai. Since the league is extremely deep there is no runningback options available
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
If there is a post on every dude who misses practice on Wednesday the board will be flooded
Nicolas Cocaign
Footballguy
No doubt, Addai looked even better than Brown. But Brown isnt the one missing practice with a banged up surgically repaired knee...
Zaphod
Two heads are better than one
If there aren't any options then I guess you need not worry, eh?The Colts are traditionally tight lipped about injury news, but I would watch Thursday and Friday practice reports for a clearer indicator of any degree of injury.
Futz
Footballguy
Especially a Wednesday practice.
The_U
Footballguy
I'd have been concerned within the first few minutes after you drafted Bradshaw, effectively locking up one of the highest risk/reward backfields ever assembled.Back on topic: Until Addai fails to play I am done underrating him.
jimmyd9989
Footballguy
Lol good point, originally I drafted Beanie Wells but I made a move for Addai after seeing his consistency in the Colts offense last year and seeing him tear up the preseason
Joe Summer
Footballguy
I can't imagine a league where Huggins is rostered but Brown isn't.
Jerry Lawler
Footballguy
This is certainly cause for concern, but it could very well be little more than a preventive measure for a guy who will take a beating for the next few months. Just for context, it's worth noting that a Colts blog reported Freeney was held out of practice today too, for what was listed as "rest." Charlie Johnson was held out for the same foot that's probably going to bother him all season but hasn't kept him from starting both games.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I don't think so. Brown is too awful in pass protection, unlike Addai. On a team that throws the ball a ton, that is not good. Brown looks like the better runner, but he's probably gonna have to improve his pass protection skills drastically before he unseats Addai (when healthy).
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Whats with the eh`s , eh ? 
jimmyd9989
Footballguy
yeah I'm hoping it was for the same reason. Addai didn't leave the game at all so I'm sure its a preventive measure
jimmyd9989
Footballguy
Football Critic
Footballguy
If your looking for advice, isnt that AC Forum?
az_prof
Footballguy
If a guy doesn't practice on Wed., that is a bad sign, but doesn't necessarily mean he won't play. If he doesn't practice on Thursday, however, that is the time to start worrying about this week. Long term, I am a Donald Brown believer, and think once he gets a chance to start he will play very well. Time will tell.
az_prof
Footballguy
THis was true last year, but prove that is true this year. I watched this past week and saw Brown block well and I saw Addai miss a block on the sack that Peyton took. The line about pass protection was something the media grabbed onto and it was true last year, but Brown is a smart player and a hard working player--he knows how to block. He isn't one of those prima donnas who won't block or one of those dunces who can't figure it out. TBH, we aren't talking about rocket science here--anyone think pass blocking is THAT difficult that any smart guy who wants to learn can't do it?
thecardiackid
Footballguy
jimmyd9989
Footballguy
Shouldn't there be room for optimism considering rotoworld or profootballtalk hasn't made a big deal of the injury yet? Also, what about the fact that he finished the game, hopefully if nothings seriously damaged he will play.
az_prof
Footballguy
No offense intended, but not sure what rotoworld or profootballtalk would know that we wouldn't. I wasn't being negative, just realistic. Usually, Wednesday is a critical day of practice. But Thursday is the really important one. Occasionally, a guy won't practice all week and then plays anyway, but it is rare. You may notice that M. Bush the past two weeks practiced partially on Wednesday, but not on Thursday, and didn't play in either one.
switz
Footballguy
Wed practices are pretty meaningless, unless the team has an early week game (thurs night). The Colts are resting Addai so they don't overwork him. As far as Brown goes, his blocking has improved, but he's still nowhere as good as Addai. Additionally, in case you missed it, Addai had more carries and a higher YPC - he is simply the better back. A lot of ppl drafted Brown hoping he'd replace Addai but that didn't happen, and barring season ending injury, it's not going to.There may be a few games where Brown makes a big play, he is more explosive and has a better top and speed. But Addai will continue to see the larger share of the workload. Addai = most underappreciated RB in FF.
belljr
Footballguy
I disagree Wednesday being critical. As the season goes on many vets that are banged up don't practice Wednesday, they end up practicing Thursday and Friday and play.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
There is no way to prove something like that, but I know what I see. In week 1, Brown comes in and completely goes to block the wrong guy (someone who was already being blocked by an OL), leaving the outside pass rusher with a free run at Manning, who got drilled. Manning got up and yelled at Brown, who then was on the bench for the rest of the game. That said it all. I am not saying Addai is the best RB in the league as pass protection, but he is much better than Brown. As explosive as Brown is, trust me, if he were as good as Addai at it, he would be the starter, or at least getting more playing time every week.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Any updates here? Dodds has Addai ranked #111 and Brown ranked #50, does that mean he's not playing?
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jimmyd9989
Footballguy
In last nights projects, Dodds/Norton/Trembley have Addai with 9 carries and 1 reception. They probably assume he will play in a limited role this week to save him for the rest of the season.
az_prof
Footballguy
Obviously we disagree. You can't just compare ypc especially when one guy has very few career carries. But that's fine. I do agree that Addai is running well and he isn't just going to be stripped of his starting position. But if he does suffer a serious injury, look out. I think Brown will take hold of the job and won't let go. That may not happen this year, however, and Addai continues to be very effective when he is healthy.switz said:
az_prof
Footballguy
Then you must have missed the play in week 2 where Addai missed the block and Manning was sacked. Not saying Addai isn't a good blocker, but to say that Brown is worse based on what we have so far isn't really supported. If you are going to use one anecdotal play by Brown then you have to account for the anedotal play where Addai gave up the sack.Ghost Rider said:
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I never said Addai was infallible in pass protection or that he never misses blocks. But he is much better than Brown, and the Colts know it, which is why Addai plays a lot more than Brown. Look at week 1. The Colts were behind pretty much the whole game and threw a ton while only running the ball 10 times IIRC, and Brown barely played. Why? Because he stinks in pass protection. Throwing the whole game, Addai is better to have out there because, while he might not be great at it, he isn't as awful as Brown is. The fact that you don't see Brown out there that much in obvious passing situations vs. a healthy Addai says it all.
FallenHero32
Footballguy
Or it could be that Addai also knows the offense like the back of his hand and Donald Brown is still learning it, so the quick changes made by Peyton when they are down and need to move the ball quickly make Addai stay out there because he knows it all. Brown is still learning it all. I'm not saying that my point is correct, but don't discount experience either in these situations.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
RedskinsFan
Footballguy
Brown is a player to watch this year.
Did you hear the stadium pop when Brown got his first carry? The fans want to see Brown and less of Addai which I don't really get since Addai seems like the better player imo. It's impossible to ignore that with Addai in the fold the organization still went out and spent a first round pick on Brown. I doubt they agree with me that Addai is the better player. They obviously think highly of Brown. I believe that eventually sometime this year the torch will be passed from Addai to Brown. Most likely sooner then later Brown will get his shot. And unless he really screws up or gets injured once he gets that shot this year the Colts may never look back to Addai. Don't forget that Addai is a free agent in 2011.
I believe that the the torch is going to get passed sometime this year its just a matter of when and when that happens Brown becomes the feature back and Addai starts looking for a new home
Did you hear the stadium pop when Brown got his first carry? The fans want to see Brown and less of Addai which I don't really get since Addai seems like the better player imo. It's impossible to ignore that with Addai in the fold the organization still went out and spent a first round pick on Brown. I doubt they agree with me that Addai is the better player. They obviously think highly of Brown. I believe that eventually sometime this year the torch will be passed from Addai to Brown. Most likely sooner then later Brown will get his shot. And unless he really screws up or gets injured once he gets that shot this year the Colts may never look back to Addai. Don't forget that Addai is a free agent in 2011.
I believe that the the torch is going to get passed sometime this year its just a matter of when and when that happens Brown becomes the feature back and Addai starts looking for a new home
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FallenHero32
Footballguy
Brown doesnt block whoever is coming from Manning's backside after the Defender blows by the O-Line. The Defender got by amazingly quick too...I dunno if Donald just missed his block and didnt stay there or didn't actually think the defender would get by that quickly and he went up to block where Manning was running to on the right side because it looked like that part of the O-Line was about to collapse. Manning then gets angry and yells.Maybe someone with more football knowledge can come in and clarify things a bit.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
It is funny that Freeney is listed with injury "rested". apparently he was tired from one to many free runs at manning.
az_prof
Footballguy
That link is from last year. The claims are that he still hasnt' learned how to pass block. I watched both games this season and think he is doing fine. I also saw Addai miss a block that led to a sack. So...I am questioning this claim and it seems to me it is based on last year's information, which sort of became "the thing to say." Just like people last year kept saying that Meachem couldn't catch with his hands or run good routes--in fact, he was doing it. But they were repeating 2008's scouting report on Meachem. Now people are repeating 2009's scouting report on Brown and are ignoring the progress.
switz
Footballguy
A) the crowd would have gone nuts regardless of who scored that TD
B) Brown was drafted because they had no one behind Addai, and he had just come off an injury plagued season.C) Peyton Manning thinks Addai is the better player, and that's all that really matters.
az_prof
Footballguy
At this point, the only real issue is Addai's knee and we don't know much. I don't think he hurt it badly and I expect he will practice today or tomorrow. But that is all we need to monitor at this point. If he doesn't practice today or tomorrow, start worrying. And I still maintain that if he sits out a few games, look out, because Brown can play.A) the crowd would have gone nuts regardless of who scored that TD
rizzler
Footballguy
As Switz stated... Manning trusts Addai, they've been through a lot.
Addai has also not shown any signs of slowing or rusting... The guy can still play at a high level considering he isnt a 20+carry a game kinda guy (on a frequent basis anyways)
Addai, IMO, is resting.... Vet RB's get time to off to heal... They're obviously in more pain than fresh RBs who are newer to the NFL pounding... Lets see if Addai practices or sits another day or so...
Addai has also not shown any signs of slowing or rusting... The guy can still play at a high level considering he isnt a 20+carry a game kinda guy (on a frequent basis anyways)
Addai, IMO, is resting.... Vet RB's get time to off to heal... They're obviously in more pain than fresh RBs who are newer to the NFL pounding... Lets see if Addai practices or sits another day or so...
RedskinsFan
Footballguy
A) the crowd would have gone nuts regardless of who scored that TD
A. The crowd was much more interested when Brown had the ball then Addai. I believe the average fan wants to see more of Brown because of the contractual situations and they knew pretty much what Addai brings to the game and want more then that. B. That doesn't even consider if they plan to re-sign him or not. Why would they? The Colts have a committment to Brown and none to Addai. It may not say anything to you but to find out answers you follow the money. The Colts are not invested in AddaiC. Payton is not the owner or the coach. His opinion isn't going to pick the starters is it? You've been warned, this is the year that Brown takes the torch.
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az_prof
Footballguy
Manning certainly has the authority to audible and he can use his on field decision making to get the ball to certain players, but do you really believe he is setting the depth chart? He isn't the HC and I doubt any HC gives up that much authority. As far as resting, it could be. But there are reports that he has a sore knee and he did have surgery on his knee in the recent past. One thing I noticed in week 2 that was interesting: when the team got in the red zone, they used Brown. If he is healthy, Addai isn't going to disappear and won't lose the starting gig, but he may be sharing more of the carries and he may be losing goal line touches.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
SO hijack over???
Did Addai practice on Thursday or what
Did Addai practice on Thursday or what
CrossEyed
Footballguy
You must have missed it where Addai waved himself off before that DB TD run. Addai had carried the ball the last 4 or 5 plays and needed a breather. It was not the coaches' decision for Addai to not get that TD carry.
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