Adrian Peterson, retired (2 Viewers)

[BoltBacker]

... and yet on the same day

"NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Cowboys owner Jerry Jones "would pursue" Adrian Peterson if he's still available by the March 9 start of free agency.
The Vikings may end up keeping Peterson on a restructured deal, but at present he is scheduled to hit the market on March 9. Per RapSheet, Jones would like to "pair" Peterson with Ezekiel Elliott in a tandem backfield. Jones doesn't call the shots in Dallas to the extent he used to, however, and the Cowboys have much bigger needs on defense and at wide receiver. The idea of Peterson in Dallas will generate internet clicks, but we'd bet heavily it doesn't happen.

Related: Cowboys
 
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Feb 28 - 1:22 PM"

 

[Sabertooth]

Beat up, broken down fumbling child abuser.  No thanks.  

 

[Andy Dufresne]

By all means...let the door hit ya', Adrian

 

[BigJim®]

By all means...let the door hit ya', Adrian

I don't have this reaction due to performance... anyone can see that behind this OL there is no way to judge performance of anyone on the offense, from QB to RB to WR. It's been like performing without an OL at all. However, the crucial fumbles I'll be happy to leave behind. Even if Peterson reverted to a 4.6 YPC RB behind an improved line, an offense can't tolerate the sorts of fumbles we've seen at critical times.

 

[Faust]

Spielman: 'No idea' what Peterson market will look like

 

[dmac37]

KC or Oakland seems like the best fits IMO.

This makes sense for everyone.

Both Oak & KC systems seem like a good fit and they both could use AD for a couple of years. KC maybe not as much with how they throw to the RB's so much

AD would be on teams that could be in the super bowl hunt

AD stock would go way up for a year or two for us dynasty owners

 

[Faust]

Would Adrian Peterson give Patriots a discount?

 

[Faust]

Adrian Peterson visiting with Seattle Seahawks

 

[Faust]

Speaking Thursday, Vikings GM Rick Spielman confirmed the team would not be re-signing free agent Adrian Peterson.
"With us signing (Latavius) Murray, Adrian will move on elsewhere," Spielman said of one of the greatest players in franchise history. The No. 7 overall pick of the 2007 draft, Peterson averaged 4.85 yards on his 2,418 Vikings carries. He tallied seven 1,000-yard seasons, including the No. 2 rushing campaign of all time in 2012 (2,097). Five days shy of his 32nd birthday, Peterson has drawn scant interest in free agency, visiting only the Seahawks. One-dimensional for this day and age, Peterson is coming off a season lost to injury and likely seeking too much money.

Related: Vikings
 
Source: Chris Tomasson on Twitter 
Mar 16 - 4:42 PM

 

[spider321]

Would Adrian Peterson give Patriots a discount?

The real question is would any team offer him more than the veteran minimum.

 

[WheelsUp]

That is a good question Spider, but I would say the real question is any team even going to sign him before training camp?

 

[Grahamburn]

Some serious eff you motivation for this guy. I hope he signs an incentive laden contract somewhere. If anyone has a monster season in them at 32 it's Adrian Peterson. 

 

[Interseptopus]

Some serious eff you motivation for this guy. I hope he signs an incentive laden contract somewhere. If anyone has a monster season in them at 32 it's Adrian Peterson. 

Why??? What did MIN do to give him "serious eff you" motivation??? 100 million dollars? Brought him back after his PR nightmare? They cut him because he was making way too much money, money that no one else in the league will be willing to pay him either. 

The main issue here is that AP is over-valuing himself and is likely asking way too much money. He's going to have to take a deal that is probably in the 4-6 million dollar range. He likely wants a longer year deal but he's likely to get a deal with all of the guaranteed money up front year 1 (making him expendable after 1 season if he doesn't perform). 

With the depth in this draft class- where a round 5 RB could end up being a bellcow- that vastly decreases the value of aged running backs with high mileage. Why would any team pay a guy with 2400 career carries 5-6 million dollars (or more) when they can get a guy with 0 carries for 6 figures and have him be possibly just as effective? AP looks like he has lost a step, and he cannot stay healthy lately. 

I don't see how this is an eff you to AP that would give him motivation. It's just the facts. There's no loyalty in the NFL. It's a business. Would AP have given the Vikings a discount? Probably not. So why should MIN show loyalty back? And why would AP take offense to that? 

 

[Grahamburn]

I just meant in general.  An eff you to the NFL for thinking he's done.  Not just the Vikings.

With the depth in this draft class- where a round 5 RB could end up being a bellcow- that vastly decreases the value of aged running backs with high mileage. Why would any team pay a guy with 2400 career carries 5-6 million dollars (or more) when they can get a guy with 0 carries for 6 figures and have him be possibly just as effective? AP looks like he has lost a step, and he cannot stay healthy lately.

I'm sure AP knows all of these things.  The Seahawks would rather have Lacy?  The Vikings would rather have Murray?  The rest of the NFL would rather have a rookie?  I think he'll be pretty motivated.

 

[Interseptopus]

I just meant in general.  An eff you to the NFL for thinking he's done.  Not just the Vikings.

I'm sure AP knows all of these things.  The Seahawks would rather have Lacy?  The Vikings would rather have Murray?  The rest of the NFL would rather have a rookie?  I think he'll be pretty motivated.

I see. Yes, I'd agree that the lack of interest should be

1. humbling

2. motivating 

I would imagine whatever team he latches on with that he will be motivated to succeed and do well. Not many teams run an offense that would benefit a guy like AP though. He's going to have to eat a massive slice of humble pie and take less money and less workload, or face sitting around until after the draft. 

 

[Grahamburn]

I see. Yes, I'd agree that the lack of interest should be

1. humbling

2. motivating 

I would imagine whatever team he latches on with that he will be motivated to succeed and do well. Not many teams run an offense that would benefit a guy like AP though. He's going to have to eat a massive slice of humble pie and take less money and less workload, or face sitting around until after the draft. 

I agree, which is why he should take an incentive laden contract, go nuts, and say "eff you" to all the teams that told him to pound sand.

The longer he sits out there the more I think some team is going to get the free agency steal of a lifetime even if it's only for a year.

 

[Interseptopus]

I agree, which is why he should take an incentive laden contract, go nuts, and say "eff you" to all the teams that told him to pound sand.

The longer he sits out there the more I think some team is going to get the free agency steal of a lifetime even if it's only for a year.

Ugh screams Ted Thompson. Even though GB would be the worst fit in the league for him and I'm 100% against it. Which means it'll happen. 

 

[Grahamburn]

Ugh screams Ted Thompson. Even though GB would be the worst fit in the league for him and I'm 100% against it. Which means it'll happen. 

You'd learn to love him 5 minutes into the first quarter of his first game.

$1M base salary

$1M for 10-15 TDs

$1M for 15+ TDs

$1M for 1,000+ rushing yards

$1M for 1,500+ total yards

$1M for making the Pro Bowl

$1M for a Super Bowl win

Etc. Etc. That kind of thing.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

You'd learn to love him 5 minutes into the first quarter of his first game.

$1M base salary

$1M for 10-15 TDs

$1M for 15+ TDs

$1M for 1,000+ rushing yards

$1M for 1,500+ total yards

$1M for making the Pro Bowl

$1M for a Super Bowl win

Etc. Etc. That kind of thing.

With that structure he'd make $1m.

 

[Grahamburn]

 

[hoffman0001]

Breaking news.....wait for it......this is just coming off the wire.....

Peterson is old and washed up. 

Glad I got two #1's for him in the league I drafted him in as a rookie, after his 2015 season. 

I follow the BB rules when it comes to players.....always trade them away or let them go a year early rather than a year too late and get nothing for him. My $$$ is on him leaving the game cause he can't get the deal he wants. He has all the coin he needs I'm sure. And he can work for FOX tomorrow. 

 

[hoffman0001]

sorry that was supposed to be a typo correction not a re-post. 

 

[Andy Dufresne]

sorry that was supposed to be a typo correction not a re-post. 

If you drop down "Options" you can delete a post.

 

[Faust]

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports free agent Adrian Peterson is looking for $8 million in the first year of his new contract.
He can keep dreaming. That would make Peterson the third highest-paid running back in the league behind Le'Veon Bell and LeSean McCoy. Previous reports have suggested teams are reluctant to even pay Peterson $5 million annually, making his $8 million asking price downright laughable. Aging, fragile and fumble-prone, Peterson's stock has never been lower.

 
 
Source: ESPN.com 
Mar 24 - 2:22 PM

 

[Dr. Octopus]

With that structure he'd make $1m.

maybe $2MM if he's fed. 1,000 yards isn't that tough - but generally I agree with your initial assessment.

 

[Faust]

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports the Packers "mulled" a visit with free agent Adrian Peterson but ultimately decided against it.
According to Fowler, Peterson's asking price is believed to be too high. One of the best running backs in the history of the league, Peterson doesn't seem to realize he's a 32-year-old running back in an NFL that is devaluing the position. He's not going to get top-end money. Peterson will likely have to settle for something around $5-6 million or he's going to be without a team.

Related: Packers
 
Source: Jeremy Fowler on Twitter 
Mar 24 - 11:48 AM

 

[Snorkelson]

With guys like Blount and deangelo Williams available, who have played reasonably well recently, who wants to give ADP 5 million, let alone 8 million? On top of that, the fact that he wants 8 mill also makes me think he won't be happy as part of a committee or as a backup. Oh and also said team needs to have a shot at a super bowl.....if I were a gm I wouldn't even inquire after hearing the 8 million number. 

 

[Interseptopus]

With guys like Blount and deangelo Williams available, who have played reasonably well recently, who wants to give ADP 5 million, let alone 8 million? On top of that, the fact that he wants 8 mill also makes me think he won't be happy as part of a committee or as a backup. Oh and also said team needs to have a shot at a super bowl.....if I were a gm I wouldn't even inquire after hearing the 8 million number. 

Kind of limits his options...

wants to be a full time guy for a contender and get paid. Honestly NE is the only team that fits that mold, and they just let 30 year old Blount walk. They consistently don't pay RBs. So that's not happening. 

Guessing he waits until Juneish, or sees if anyone gets hurt in minicamp. If he was going to lower his price he would have by now

 

[Snorkelson]

Kind of limits his options...

wants to be a full time guy for a contender and get paid. Honestly NE is the only team that fits that mold, and they just let 30 year old Blount walk. They consistently don't pay RBs. So that's not happening. 

Guessing he waits until Juneish, or sees if anyone gets hurt in minicamp. If he was going to lower his price he would have by now

NE got their guy with Burkhead, at least that's what I think. Under the radar guy who never had a role behind gio/hill because they were higher draft picks. Between Lewis, burkhead, white, and foster I think they have what they're looking for. AP doesn't exactly scream "patriot way" either. 

 

[Interseptopus]

NE got their guy with Burkhead, at least that's what I think. Under the radar guy who never had a role behind gio/hill because they were higher draft picks. Between Lewis, burkhead, white, and foster I think they have what they're looking for. AP doesn't exactly scream "patriot way" either. 

True and I agree. I'm just saying... A team with a shot at a Super Bowl, with no true bell cow, and with cap space to take on 8 mil... There's only one team that comes to mind. 

No contender has a void at RB AND the cap space to do this, so something will have to give 

 

[Interseptopus]

It's not about the money

the he longer he's a FA the more likely I think he ends up in green and gold, which is very disappointing. Just screams Ted Thompson kind of signing. Would be a waste of money IMO

 

[need2know]

It's not about the money

the he longer he's a FA the more likely I think he ends up in green and gold, which is very disappointing. Just screams Ted Thompson kind of signing. Would be a waste of money IMO

Agree.  

 

[Faust]

Adrian Peterson 'in no rush' to find new team

 

[KellysHeroes]

NY Jets?

 

[Tool]

NY Jets?

Maybe if he could play qb and run the option

 

[Dr. Octopus]

NY Jets?

Why would the Jets sign Peterson when they already have an old Forte and are completely rebuilding.

 

[Sabertooth]

It's not about the money

the he longer he's a FA the more likely I think he ends up in green and gold, which is very disappointing. Just screams Ted Thompson kind of signing. Would be a waste of money IMO

Please no.  

 

[spider321]

Why would the Jets sign Peterson when they already have an old Forte and are completely rebuilding.

That sounds exactly like something the Jets would do.

 

[Interseptopus]

That sounds exactly like something the Jets would do.

Funny. Although I am not really sure the Jets care about being good this year. Take your lumps and blow up the roster. Jets are targeting 2020 for a decent season IMO

 

[BoltBacker]

No contender has a void at RB AND the cap space to do this, so something will have to give 

I don't think cap space has that much to do with it. 

Even if it did there are several playoff caliber teams that have the $ IF they don't get their RB in the draft. This draft is deeper than the RB draft last year and both the Bears and Giants got their starter in the 5th round. Without the suspension BAL likely would have gotten one at the end of the 4th. Heck, there's even a chance PHI starts their 5th round RB and/or OAK starts their 7th round RB this year. 

Peterson will have to hope OAK/TB/IND/HOU/GB/WAS/PIT/CAR try to find their Jordan Howard in the 5th round but get sniped by someone and leave the draft empty handed. The only way he gets paid is if several of those teams come out empty handed but that seems extremely unlikely given the RB class this year. Still, the RB's never go where you expect them to go before the draft. 

I don't think "void at RB" means what people think it means when talking about Peterson. He's not a 300 carry guy anymore. He's a RBBC guy in some situation or purely a short yardage guy and backup in others. He would be great in that role for several teams and there are plenty of playoff caliber teams that could use him in that capacity.

 

[Interseptopus]

I don't think cap space has that much to do with it. 

Even if it did there are several playoff caliber teams that have the $ IF they don't get their RB in the draft. This draft is deeper than the RB draft last year and both the Bears and Giants got their starter in the 5th round. Without the suspension BAL likely would have gotten one at the end of the 4th. Heck, there's even a chance PHI starts their 5th round RB and/or OAK starts their 7th round RB this year. 

Peterson will have to hope OAK/TB/IND/HOU/GB/WAS/PIT/CAR try to find their Jordan Howard in the 5th round but get sniped by someone and leave the draft empty handed. The only way he gets paid is if several of those teams come out empty handed but that seems extremely unlikely given the RB class this year. Still, the RB's never go where you expect them to go before the draft. 

I don't think "void at RB" means what people think it means when talking about Peterson. He's not a 300 carry guy anymore. He's a RBBC guy in some situation or purely a short yardage guy and backup in others. He would be great in that role for several teams and there are plenty of playoff caliber teams that could use him in that capacity.

Speaking on behalf of GB because that's really the only team I follow very closely; Ty Montgomery is basically what Peterson is, all the way from the build to the style of play. I would be surprised if they went for Peterson and double-dipped on what they already have at RB. Could still see it happening but I'd prefer they grab someone like Blount. 

But you hit this exactly on the head. Most teams aren't signing these RBs because this is such a great class, so why pay for a beat up guy now when you can get a young, better, cheaper player in the draft. 

I will throw a dart at the board and say Peterson ends up in TB

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This couldn't be happening to a nicer guy.

 

[Ack88]

If he's lucky ADP will sign a one year, 4 million dollar contract with a contender who misses out on a preferred back in the draft. At this point, that's all he is going to get. Given his age, mileage, and behavioral history, it would be a big surprise if he received anything other than a one year deal. 

 

[BoltBacker]

 Ty Montgomery is basically what Peterson is, all the way from the build to the style of play. I would be surprised if they went for Peterson and double-dipped on what they already have at RB. Could still see it happening but I'd prefer they grab someone like Blount. 

Hmmmmm, to me Peterson is much more a between the tackles grinder at this stage of his career. I think he plays more like Blount than Montgomery. Although, to be fair it's tough to know exactly what he looked like because of his OL. 

If given the choice I absolutely could see him choosing GB/DET if for no other reason because he felt "disrespected" in MIN, not saying that I agree with that btw.

 

[Anarchy99]

Peterson has lots working against him . . .

- Wrong side of 30 (just turned 32).
- Even having missed almost two seasons, still lots of carries / heavy workload over the years.
- Multiple knee injuries.
- Showed very little when he was on the field last year. Ranked dead last in ypc for RB with at least 30 carries in 2016 (88th).
- Doesn't pass block or catch particularly well.
- Prefers to operate with the QB under center in an I- formation with a fullback (not many teams these days do all three of those things).
- Potential P.R. issues stemming from the child abuse situation.
- Still thinks of himself as a bell cow RB and may not want a part time or RBBC role.
- Wants $8 million for 2017.

All but the last two aren't going to change, so until he comes to grips that it is unlikely any team is going to just hand him the keys to the backfield and pay him like he was getting paid, he is going to wait . . . and wait . . . and wait some more. My guess is he will hope a lead back on a winning team gets hurt in training camp and a desperate team will sign him (sort of like MIN last year with Bradford).

 

[TheFanatic]

Peterson has lots working against him . . .

- Wrong side of 30 (just turned 32).
- Even having missed almost two seasons, still lots of carries / heavy workload over the years.
- Multiple knee injuries.
- Showed very little when he was on the field last year. Ranked dead last in ypc for RB with at least 30 carries in 2016 (88th).
- Doesn't pass block or catch particularly well.
- Prefers to operate with the QB under center in an I- formation with a fullback (not many teams these days do all three of those things).
- Potential P.R. issues stemming from the child abuse situation.
- Still thinks of himself as a bell cow RB and may not want a part time or RBBC role.
- Wants $8 million for 2017.

All but the last two aren't going to change, so until he comes to grips that it is unlikely any team is going to just hand him the keys to the backfield and pay him like he was getting paid, he is going to wait . . . and wait . . . and wait some more. My guess is he will hope a lead back on a winning team gets hurt in training camp and a desperate team will sign him (sort of like MIN last year with Bradford).

Excellent post. We've seen this happen with RB's that hope a lead back is lost in TC or early in the season and when it happens still don't get a phone call. His salary demands are outlandish. He has too much going against him to add that to the mix. I think the guy is done for the career. 

 

[Hawkeye21]

Add AP to the long list of great RBs that just disappear once they get in their 30's.  Rarely does it seem they have a decline and continue their services at a limited role.  Usually they are just suddenly gone after maybe one bad season.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Add AP to the long list of great RBs that just disappear once they get in their 30's.  Rarely does it seem they have a decline and continue their services at a limited role.  Usually they are just suddenly gone after maybe one bad season.

For perspective 

Most rush yards after 30th birthday


PLAYER


YARDS


-- Elias Sports Bureau


Emmitt Smith


5,789


John Riggins


5,683


Walter Payton


5,101

 

[Hawkeye21]

For perspective 

Most rush yards after 30th birthday


PLAYER


YARDS


-- Elias Sports Bureau


Emmitt Smith


5,789


John Riggins


5,683


Walter Payton


5,101

Yep.  That's out of how many RBs in since they played?  The odds of doing well after the age of 30 are just terrible.  Even if a RB is still in great shape there are few teams that are willing to invest in an aging back and so most just end up retiring.

 

[TheFanatic]

The odds are against him, but he also ran for 2000 yards the year after he blew out his knee. That's either because he's super human or he had some chemical help or a bit of both (I lean towards both). I think he has another big year in him. I just don't think we'll see it because of all the negatives listed above which he compounds by wanting to be the 3rd highest paid RB in the league at 32.