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I hope this whole thing just keeps getting bigger and bigger until it explodes and takes Goodell with him.

His entire personal behavior policy backfired on him. Truth is most people don't really care a lot about players personal conduct. Never did. You all see the massive uproar going on in the NBA over Dwight Howard continuing to play?

Goodell has successfully made the NFL's reaction to player conduct a bigger story than the actual negative conduct in the first place. Great job, well done. As an added bonus his policy will be removing some of the marquee stars from the game. Controversy sales for awhile but at some point in time people start to tire of the BS.

 
For those questioning if the Vikings would want him back or not:

It’s becoming more and more clear that, whatever the NFL does and whenever the NFL does it, the Vikings are ready to welcome him home.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, there’s indeed no rift, internal battle, or schism regarding Peterson’s status with the team.
It’s now becoming more clear that the Vikings are indeed in agreement that Peterson, perhaps the greatest player in team history and one of the best running backs to ever play the game, will be embraced, once he’s eligible to play.
:shrug:

 
Lol at the people shaming Peterson, defending McDonald. The court of public opinion is good for one but not the other. Give me a break.
Do you want every single player accused of a crime to be suspended/shelved immediately?
That's what happened to Peterson. Mcdonalds case was resolved the same week as APs. McDonald played all year and has been able to work towards contract incentives.
Did they have proof of what McDonald did? Pictures or anything similar to Petersons case?McDonald and Petersons cases don't seem similar at all to me.
Both were charged. Both cases were resolved this past week. One played since then and one didn't. This is what got them in trouble before. Do they really need pictures before they take action? If pictures came out while he was still playing, how does that look?
The pictures matter. A LOT. If they had pics of McDonalds wife/Gf of her all bruised with hand marks around her neck he'd be right with Ray Rice. There's not a doubt in my mind.
Sure before Ray Rice, that would be true. After that happened, is it smart to play Russian roulette with the media hunting for those pics while you await his trial result?
They just may not exist. That's how it reads to me. There's a lot of proof against one guy and speculation with the other.
 
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I hope this whole thing just keeps getting bigger and bigger until it explodes and takes Goodell with him.

His entire personal behavior policy backfired on him. Truth is most people don't really care a lot about players personal conduct. Never did. You all see the massive uproar going on in the NBA over Dwight Howard continuing to play?

Goodell has successfully made the NFL's reaction to player conduct a bigger story than the actual negative conduct in the first place. Great job, well done. As an added bonus his policy will be removing some of the marquee stars from the game. Controversy sales for awhile but at some point in time people start to tire of the BS.
There is nothing wrong with the NFL decision. Again, the only problem anyone should have had was their period of indecision.

AP made himself, his team and the league look bad. That does not come without a price. But the only thing he "deserved" a right to was a speedy process. The NFL looked bad in not granting that process until the Union pressed the issue, but AP playing again this year was a long shot.

 
At this moment my belief is the league did this because they know they were screwed in the grievance hearing and know he was about to play, the league knew he was going to play and that if they suspended AP he would appeal and play anyways so the league is using this as a way to make it look like they are trying everything, and they are.
the climate has changed on the NFL, their the bad guys now. I would be shocked if this holds up.
How on earth is the nfl the bad guys now?? Sheesh
Have they ever been the good guys though?

 
For those questioning if the Vikings would want him back or not:

It’s becoming more and more clear that, whatever the NFL does and whenever the NFL does it, the Vikings are ready to welcome him home.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, there’s indeed no rift, internal battle, or schism regarding Peterson’s status with the team.
It’s now becoming more clear that the Vikings are indeed in agreement that Peterson, perhaps the greatest player in team history and one of the best running backs to ever play the game, will be embraced, once he’s eligible to play.
:shrug:
Maybe but funny to me how these story's are leaking today showing the Vikings strong show of support. Pretty easy to provide a unified front when they know he's not coming back.

 
The first time I heard that Goodell wanted to bring in subject matter experts to help determine Peterson's punishment I knew it was over for Peterson this year.

WTF do you think a specialist in the child advocacy field will recommend lol

 
For those questioning if the Vikings would want him back or not:

It’s becoming more and more clear that, whatever the NFL does and whenever the NFL does it, the Vikings are ready to welcome him home.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, there’s indeed no rift, internal battle, or schism regarding Peterson’s status with the team.
It’s now becoming more clear that the Vikings are indeed in agreement that Peterson, perhaps the greatest player in team history and one of the best running backs to ever play the game, will be embraced, once he’s eligible to play.
:shrug:
Maybe but funny to me how these story's are leaking today showing the Vikings strong show of support. Pretty easy to provide a unified front when they know he's not coming back.
Support was reported back when he pleaded "No Contest".. Then there were these dubious reports that there was internal conflicts on whether the team wanted him back.. There is no internal conflict.. If he is allowed to play while he appeals his suspension then he will play.. Just wanted to put an end to the "If he can play will the Vikings let him" :hophead:

 
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For those questioning if the Vikings would want him back or not:

It’s becoming more and more clear that, whatever the NFL does and whenever the NFL does it, the Vikings are ready to welcome him home.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, there’s indeed no rift, internal battle, or schism regarding Peterson’s status with the team.
It’s now becoming more clear that the Vikings are indeed in agreement that Peterson, perhaps the greatest player in team history and one of the best running backs to ever play the game, will be embraced, once he’s eligible to play.
:shrug:
Maybe but funny to me how these story's are leaking today showing the Vikings strong show of support. Pretty easy to provide a unified front when they know he's not coming back.
Support was reported back when he pleaded "No Contest".. Then there were these dubious reports that there was internal conflicts on whether the team wanted him back.. There is no internal conflict.. If he is allowed to play while he appeals his suspension then he will play.. Just wanted to put an end to the "If he can play will the Vikings let him" :hophead:
Even if arbitrator allows Peterson to come off Commissioner Exempt list while appealing, don't see @Vikings playing him during appeal.
https://twitter.com/adbrandt/status/534742021362429952

 
For those questioning if the Vikings would want him back or not:

It’s becoming more and more clear that, whatever the NFL does and whenever the NFL does it, the Vikings are ready to welcome him home.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, there’s indeed no rift, internal battle, or schism regarding Peterson’s status with the team.
It’s now becoming more clear that the Vikings are indeed in agreement that Peterson, perhaps the greatest player in team history and one of the best running backs to ever play the game, will be embraced, once he’s eligible to play.
:shrug:
Maybe but funny to me how these story's are leaking today showing the Vikings strong show of support. Pretty easy to provide a unified front when they know he's not coming back.
Support was reported back when he pleaded "No Contest".. Then there were these dubious reports that there was internal conflicts on whether the team wanted him back.. There is no internal conflict.. If he is allowed to play while he appeals his suspension then he will play.. Just wanted to put an end to the "If he can play will the Vikings let him" :hophead:
Even if arbitrator allows Peterson to come off Commissioner Exempt list while appealing, don't see @Vikings playing him during appeal.
https://twitter.com/adbrandt/status/534742021362429952
well if Andrew Brandt( whoever the hell he is) says it then I guess that is that.. :thumbup:

 
For those questioning if the Vikings would want him back or not:

It’s becoming more and more clear that, whatever the NFL does and whenever the NFL does it, the Vikings are ready to welcome him home.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, there’s indeed no rift, internal battle, or schism regarding Peterson’s status with the team.
It’s now becoming more clear that the Vikings are indeed in agreement that Peterson, perhaps the greatest player in team history and one of the best running backs to ever play the game, will be embraced, once he’s eligible to play.
:shrug:
Maybe but funny to me how these story's are leaking today showing the Vikings strong show of support. Pretty easy to provide a unified front when they know he's not coming back.
Support was reported back when he pleaded "No Contest".. Then there were these dubious reports that there was internal conflicts on whether the team wanted him back.. There is no internal conflict.. If he is allowed to play while he appeals his suspension then he will play.. Just wanted to put an end to the "If he can play will the Vikings let him" :hophead:
Even if arbitrator allows Peterson to come off Commissioner Exempt list while appealing, don't see @Vikings playing him during appeal.
https://twitter.com/adbrandt/status/534742021362429952
well if Andrew Brandt( whoever the hell he is) says it then I guess that is that.. :thumbup:
Ian Rapport basically said the same thing on detroit sports raido ESPN affliate 105.1

Shrug, no link just him talking

 
Vikings fans: is it known what local sponsor(s) threatened to pulled out earlier in the season when it looked like Peterson was going to play until his court case? Did they actually break sponsorship ties, or just threaten to? And are any local sponsorship considerations in play should Peterson be reinstated soon?

 
Man, all the wasted time of the internet lawyers arguing the semantics of the linguistical meaning of the words in the CBA. This is a PR problem, not a legal one. The lawyers can argue until they are blue in the face, and some might even have merit, but there was no way the commissioner was going to let AP play, and if somehow, someway AP does make his way onto the field it won't be by his doing. It will be the Players Association that will get the "Wraith of Khan" libs attacking them until they relent at the last second. There is too much at stake, too much NFL money to be lost, too much attention to NFL's misdeeds in the past. Only a myopic rotoworld fantasy football type would have thought AP was coming back this season.

There has been a strategy to keep AP off the field and it is no coincidence to the timing of this densely written victim piece. NYT needs to sell their rag of a newspaper too and this is the kind of froth that sells newspapers, "big ugly athlete getting all the rules bent for his sake, and the victim pays the price, over and over."

Just read this article and tell me how RG frees AP to play this year?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/sports/football/an-accusation-of-abuse-then-special-treatment-for-nfl-player.html?partner=rss&_r=0

Do you realize the kind of PR wraith that would follow if Rice or AP played again this year? RG is backed into a corner especially after the Ray Rice deal. This is PR and PR associated all these events together even if semantics says each case stands on its own. NFL is under PR damage control right now. Live with it.
Interesting response from a poster with a Gordon avatar. Driving while intoxicated has more potential consequences than what Peterson did. Two athletes have died in the past few months while driving intoxicated - Bironas and Tavares. If Goodell is so concerned about having perfect PR, Gordon should not be playing this year either.

It's also important not to forget that Leonard Little only received an eight game suspension for killing someone while drunk. If that's too long ago, Cowboys welcome back Josh Brent this week after killing his friend while drunk. Brent was doing over 110 MPH in a 45 when he crashed (some reports say as much as 130 MPH) Yet, Goodell has no problem having a partnership with Anheiser Busch. He has no problem allowing these players back on the field. I don't agree with what Ray Rice or Peterson did, but because they are house hold names, Goodell wants to make examples out of them.

That is the issue I have with this process. There is no consistency with punishments.

 
Another logical response/argument regarding things unrelated to the PR problem. The PR problem isn't weed dude.

 
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So my question is why did they wait so long to issue the suspension? Seems like that exempt list fiasco was a whole lot of drama for zero purpose.
Great job by Goodell. Handled the whole thing perfectly. Peterson misses the entire season, as he should have. After missing an entire season, he will be welcomed back with open arms to the NFL in 2015, as most people will feel that an entire season is enough justice for his crimes.
I agree with the suspension, however if they were going to suspend for at least the season...why wait until the legal process plays out? Why allow him to be paid for 2/3 of the season?
:goodposting:

As mentioned above.. good luck ever getting a player to agree to go on the "Commissioner's exempt" list ever again..

Either suspend them without pay, or let them play until they have them time in court.. No more in-between status. :bye:
I am not so sure players wouldn't take the exempt list in the future. If as a player such as Peterson you are looking down the barrel of a year suspension without pay versus 10 games with pay and 6 without, maybe you take it.

The ten games with pay was clearly played a role in time served because there was little chance the league was going to hit him with a year or longer after due process played out.

 
So my question is why did they wait so long to issue the suspension? Seems like that exempt list fiasco was a whole lot of drama for zero purpose.
Great job by Goodell. Handled the whole thing perfectly. Peterson misses the entire season, as he should have. After missing an entire season, he will be welcomed back with open arms to the NFL in 2015, as most people will feel that an entire season is enough justice for his crimes.
I agree with the suspension, however if they were going to suspend for at least the season...why wait until the legal process plays out? Why allow him to be paid for 2/3 of the season?
:goodposting: As mentioned above.. good luck ever getting a player to agree to go on the "Commissioner's exempt" list ever again..

Either suspend them without pay, or let them play until they have them time in court.. No more in-between status. :bye:
I am not so sure players wouldn't take the exempt list in the future. If as a player such as Peterson you are looking down the barrel of a year suspension without pay versus 10 games with pay and 6 without, maybe you take it.

The ten games with pay was clearly played a role in time served because there was little chance the league was going to hit him with a year or longer after due process played out.
If they tried to suspend him for a year, they would have lost.
 
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For those questioning if the Vikings would want him back or not:

It’s becoming more and more clear that, whatever the NFL does and whenever the NFL does it, the Vikings are ready to welcome him home.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, there’s indeed no rift, internal battle, or schism regarding Peterson’s status with the team.
It’s now becoming more clear that the Vikings are indeed in agreement that Peterson, perhaps the greatest player in team history and one of the best running backs to ever play the game, will be embraced, once he’s eligible to play.
:shrug:
Maybe but funny to me how these story's are leaking today showing the Vikings strong show of support. Pretty easy to provide a unified front when they know he's not coming back.
Support was reported back when he pleaded "No Contest".. Then there were these dubious reports that there was internal conflicts on whether the team wanted him back.. There is no internal conflict.. If he is allowed to play while he appeals his suspension then he will play.. Just wanted to put an end to the "If he can play will the Vikings let him" :hophead:
Meh, I'm hard pressed to logically conclude that one anonymous report puts a different anonymous report to rest. My reading of the tea leaves is the Vikes are using social media to gauge the public response to the various avenues they might take.

 
Vikings fans: is it known what local sponsor(s) threatened to pulled out earlier in the season when it looked like Peterson was going to play until his court case? Did they actually break sponsorship ties, or just threaten to? And are any local sponsorship considerations in play should Peterson be reinstated soon?
Yes, I believe it was Radisson (and possibly even Pepsi). Paul Allen, the Vikings play-by-play guy, was on local sports talk radio this morning indicating that the sponsors are all back on board with no issues whether Peterson is brought back or not. He also indicated that his ties within the organization have led him to believe that Peterson will actually be back with the Vikings next year. I'm surprised by that and frankly don't buy into it, but he's far more plugged in that most people so take it for what it's worth.

 
My reading of the tea leaves is the Vikes are using social media to gauge the public response to the various avenues they might take.
If so, that's weak sauce. Why doesn't the team have a firm conviction one way or the other, and act accprdingly?

 
Yes, I believe it was Radisson (and possibly even Pepsi). Paul Allen, the Vikings play-by-play guy, was on local sports talk radio this morning indicating that the sponsors are all back on board with no issues whether Peterson is brought back or not. He also indicated that his ties within the organization have led him to believe that Peterson will actually be back with the Vikings next year. I'm surprised by that and frankly don't buy into it, but he's far more plugged in that most people so take it for what it's worth.
That's interesting. I wonder what changed for them between Spetember and now? The plea deal is but a fig leaf, so if a sponsor stands behind that ... ugh.

 
so how many millions did ADP still make this year???

he was treated SOOOO unfairly, gimme a break
The point being, with or without pay, he was effectively suspended for a year without the Commish having to actually come out and say that..

Again, because of this I really can not see any reason another player will EVER allow himself to be put on the "commissioners Exempt List" again.. he just lost a bargaining chip IMO.. from here on out they are going to have to step up and make a decision right away and can't fall back on this "Out" :bye:
you want to go on this list with pay? Or you want us to suspend you without pay?

What do you do?
"You want to go on this list with pay for 10 weeks, and then get suspended for 6 weeks, or get suspended for 6 weeks now?"

If Peterson had refused to go on the list, the NFL would have had to make a ruling on discipline at that time, and it probably would have been 6 weeks, and he'd be back on the field by now.
In fact, it appears that Peterson faced longer than a 6 game suspension.

#NFL doesn't contradict claim AD was told games missed would be time served; says today's suspension took that into consideration.
https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/534747010789044224

 
Doug B said:
BigJim® said:
My reading of the tea leaves is the Vikes are using social media to gauge the public response to the various avenues they might take.
If so, that's weak sauce. Why doesn't the team have a firm conviction one way or the other, and act accprdingly?
Public support, as far as what polls have been done, show they support him returning and, as mentioned above, the sponsor who threatened to walk earlier has returned and at this point no sponsor is claiming that they will walk if he returns.

Minnesota has always been of the mind of "Everyone deserves a 2nd chance" .. Does get a little scary when they hold those values towards Sexual predators, but if they think a Sexual Predator deserves a 2nd chance, can't see them thinking twice on wanting to see ADP be given a 2nd chance.. :shrug:

 
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Doug B said:
SayWhat? said:
Yes, I believe it was Radisson (and possibly even Pepsi). Paul Allen, the Vikings play-by-play guy, was on local sports talk radio this morning indicating that the sponsors are all back on board with no issues whether Peterson is brought back or not. He also indicated that his ties within the organization have led him to believe that Peterson will actually be back with the Vikings next year. I'm surprised by that and frankly don't buy into it, but he's far more plugged in that most people so take it for what it's worth.
That's interesting. I wonder what changed for them between Spetember and now? The plea deal is but a fig leaf, so if a sponsor stands behind that ... ugh.
Time is the simple answer. Has any company ever pulled out of a sponsorship with the NFL? From a business perspective, no matter what Peterson has done, doesn't make sense to back out from the NFL.

 
snogger said:
As mentioned above.. good luck ever getting a player to agree to go on the "Commissioner's exempt" list ever again..
I think a more accurate statement would be "Good luck ever getting a player to agree to a plea deal in the hopes of reducing the likelihood of a suspension again".

Peterson thought that the plea deal would reduce his suspension, but he was dead wrong. He was better off going to trial and taking his chances with a jury.

 
Doug B said:
BigJim® said:
My reading of the tea leaves is the Vikes are using social media to gauge the public response to the various avenues they might take.
If so, that's weak sauce. Why doesn't the team have a firm conviction one way or the other, and act accprdingly?
The short answer is because they don't have to, yet. The longer answer is the previous firestorm created among sponsors and fans when they activated AP too soon, then did a 180. I get it, ultimately the team is a business and businesses don't have firm convictions about anything. It's all dollars and cents, and Wilf's comfort facing a segment of the fan/sponsors who will never be happy with AP returning.

 
Insein said:
If they tried to suspend him for a year, they would have lost.
Why? Goodell's policy specifically says that he can extend the suspension if circumstances warrant it. (And "circumstances" in this case is defined as "whatever Roger Goodell wants it to mean").

 
Time is the simple answer. Has any company ever pulled out of a sponsorship with the NFL? From a business perspective, no matter what Peterson has done, doesn't make sense to back out from the NFL.
No problem with that -- so don't make a public show of "pulling out". Stand behind your sponsorship.

 
Here's the bottom line IMO. Pepsi can say what they want, trying to look good in the public eye. When the money is on the table, all bets are off. The Vikings could contract with Coke instead and not bat an eye. No way a company like Pepsi gives up on millions of dollars on priciple.

 
snogger said:
As mentioned above.. good luck ever getting a player to agree to go on the "Commissioner's exempt" list ever again..
I think a more accurate statement would be "Good luck ever getting a player to agree to a plea deal in the hopes of reducing the likelihood of a suspension again".

Peterson thought that the plea deal would reduce his suspension, but he was dead wrong. He was better off going to trial and taking his chances with a jury.
are you crazy? the jury could of found him guilty and given him jail time. Sheesh

 
tjnc09 said:
mnmplayer said:
Another logical response/argument regarding things unrelated to the PR problem. The PR problem isn't weed dude.
Maybe it's the reason for your poor reading comprehension :shrug:
Its like you don't get it. Logical arguments are not going to swing a PR decision. Let me break it down into simple terms. AP won't see the field this year under RG? Comprehend that?

 
snogger said:
As mentioned above.. good luck ever getting a player to agree to go on the "Commissioner's exempt" list ever again..
I think a more accurate statement would be "Good luck ever getting a player to agree to a plea deal in the hopes of reducing the likelihood of a suspension again".

Peterson thought that the plea deal would reduce his suspension, but he was dead wrong. He was better off going to trial and taking his chances with a jury.
are you crazy? the jury could of found him guilty and given him jail time. Sheesh
Yeah, legally was the bigger issue for him. He stays out of jail, thats why he made the deal.

 
bolzano said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
snogger said:
bolzano said:
snogger said:
menobrown said:
snogger said:
For those questioning if the Vikings would want him back or not:

It’s becoming more and more clear that, whatever the NFL does and whenever the NFL does it, the Vikings are ready to welcome him home.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, there’s indeed no rift, internal battle, or schism regarding Peterson’s status with the team.
It’s now becoming more clear that the Vikings are indeed in agreement that Peterson, perhaps the greatest player in team history and one of the best running backs to ever play the game, will be embraced, once he’s eligible to play.
:shrug:
Maybe but funny to me how these story's are leaking today showing the Vikings strong show of support. Pretty easy to provide a unified front when they know he's not coming back.
Support was reported back when he pleaded "No Contest".. Then there were these dubious reports that there was internal conflicts on whether the team wanted him back.. There is no internal conflict.. If he is allowed to play while he appeals his suspension then he will play.. Just wanted to put an end to the "If he can play will the Vikings let him" :hophead:
Even if arbitrator allows Peterson to come off Commissioner Exempt list while appealing, don't see @Vikings playing him during appeal.
https://twitter.com/adbrandt/status/534742021362429952
well if Andrew Brandt( whoever the hell he is) says it then I guess that is that.. :thumbup:
Ian Rapport basically said the same thing on detroit sports raido ESPN affliate 105.1

Shrug, no link just him talking
brandt is an nfl insider, as is rapoport. although their thoughts aren't definitive, they are in contrast with yours and should be noted.
These so-called Insiders have no clue. From six days ago:

Rapoport said on Sunday's NFL GameDay Morning that while Peterson is facing a six-game suspension under the league's personal-conduct policy, his punishment would likely be shorter than that with a compromise based on time served and loss of pay. Rapoport noted that Peterson might return in December.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000427324/article/adrian-petersons-appeals-hearing-set-for-monday

 
Bojang0301 said:
Lol at the people shaming Peterson, defending McDonald. The court of public opinion is good for one but not the other. Give me a break.
You should probably read up on McDonald's case if you think that the only difference between the two is public opinion.

 
These so-called Insiders have no clue. From six days ago:

Rapoport said on Sunday's NFL GameDay Morning that while Peterson is facing a six-game suspension under the league's personal-conduct policy, his punishment would likely be shorter than that with a compromise based on time served and loss of pay. Rapoport noted that Peterson might return in December.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000427324/article/adrian-petersons-appeals-hearing-set-for-monday
They are just talking heads man.

 
Obviously Peterson and his lawyers pissed off Goodell for not showing up on Friday. Also Goodell had to over react here to cover up for his bungling of the Ray Rice fiasco.

 
snogger said:
As mentioned above.. good luck ever getting a player to agree to go on the "Commissioner's exempt" list ever again..
I think a more accurate statement would be "Good luck ever getting a player to agree to a plea deal in the hopes of reducing the likelihood of a suspension again".Peterson thought that the plea deal would reduce his suspension, but he was dead wrong. He was better off going to trial and taking his chances with a jury.
are you crazy? the jury could of found him guilty and given him jail time. Sheesh
I'll take my chances when there's $4.4 million dollars on the line.
 
snogger said:
As mentioned above.. good luck ever getting a player to agree to go on the "Commissioner's exempt" list ever again..
I think a more accurate statement would be "Good luck ever getting a player to agree to a plea deal in the hopes of reducing the likelihood of a suspension again".

Peterson thought that the plea deal would reduce his suspension, but he was dead wrong. He was better off going to trial and taking his chances with a jury.
are you crazy? the jury could of found him guilty and given him jail time. Sheesh
:goodposting: If given a deal which includes no jail time and, in ADP's world anyways, a :2cents: fine, you'd be dumb NOT to take it when your case is a 50/50 shot.

 
CalBear said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
snogger said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
so how many millions did ADP still make this year???

he was treated SOOOO unfairly, gimme a break
The point being, with or without pay, he was effectively suspended for a year without the Commish having to actually come out and say that..

Again, because of this I really can not see any reason another player will EVER allow himself to be put on the "commissioners Exempt List" again.. he just lost a bargaining chip IMO.. from here on out they are going to have to step up and make a decision right away and can't fall back on this "Out" :bye:
you want to go on this list with pay? Or you want us to suspend you without pay?

What do you do?
"You want to go on this list with pay for 10 weeks, and then get suspended for 6 weeks, or get suspended for 6 weeks now?"

If Peterson had refused to go on the list, the NFL would have had to make a ruling on discipline at that time, and it probably would have been 6 weeks, and he'd be back on the field by now.
I wonder how that could have been used by the DA in the plea arrangement. The NFL does not like to discipline before legal proceedings conclude as not to affect the outcome. I think the CEL is helping the player out legally by not giving the prosecutor any more ammunition. The offer was probably go on the CEL and face discipline when your case closes or we suspend you indefinitely and you can apply for reinstatement after your court case or six weeks.

 
snogger said:
As mentioned above.. good luck ever getting a player to agree to go on the "Commissioner's exempt" list ever again..
I think a more accurate statement would be "Good luck ever getting a player to agree to a plea deal in the hopes of reducing the likelihood of a suspension again".Peterson thought that the plea deal would reduce his suspension, but he was dead wrong. He was better off going to trial and taking his chances with a jury.
are you crazy? the jury could of found him guilty and given him jail time. Sheesh
I'll take my chances when there's $4.4 million dollars on the line.
yeah ok guy

 
snogger said:
As mentioned above.. good luck ever getting a player to agree to go on the "Commissioner's exempt" list ever again..
I think a more accurate statement would be "Good luck ever getting a player to agree to a plea deal in the hopes of reducing the likelihood of a suspension again".Peterson thought that the plea deal would reduce his suspension, but he was dead wrong. He was better off going to trial and taking his chances with a jury.
are you crazy? the jury could of found him guilty and given him jail time. Sheesh
I'll take my chances when there's $4.4 million dollars on the line.
yeah ok guy
Peterson made $40MM on his rookie deal and banked $12MM up front on his latest contract, and another $30MM+ in salaries and bonuses through last year. Not to mention whatever endorsement money he has made since coming into the league.

When you've got that in the bank, keeping your ### out of prison is always priority #1. If the prosecutors came up to him on day 1 and said his only way out of jail was to agree to never go near a football field again, he wouldn't be able to sign off on the deal fast enough.

 
snogger said:
As mentioned above.. good luck ever getting a player to agree to go on the "Commissioner's exempt" list ever again..
I think a more accurate statement would be "Good luck ever getting a player to agree to a plea deal in the hopes of reducing the likelihood of a suspension again".Peterson thought that the plea deal would reduce his suspension, but he was dead wrong. He was better off going to trial and taking his chances with a jury.
are you crazy? the jury could of found him guilty and given him jail time. Sheesh
I'll take my chances when there's $4.4 million dollars on the line.
yeah ok guy
:shrug: As with many things in life, it's a risk/reward scenario. You're risking "X" jail time for "Y" money. "X" could be anywhere from 0 days (probation) to 2 years. "Y" could be anywhere from $0 to $4.4 million (or higher if Goodell wanted to add games).Based on Peterson's status as: A) a first-time offender; B) a football player from Texas; and C) living in a discipline-friendly state, I'd be pretty confident that he was more likely to get probation than 2 years, and whatever jail time he did get would probably short enough to be served in the offseason.

Can someone find similar cases in Texas where a first-time offender was sentenced to 2 years in jail?

 
When you've got that in the bank, keeping your ### out of prison is always priority #1. If the prosecutors came up to him on day 1 and said his only way out of jail was to agree to never go near a football field again, he wouldn't be able to sign off on the deal fast enough.
I agree. I've said from the beginning when we heard that he might be coming back that a multi millionaire is much more concerned with staying out of jail than playing 6 games of football. He was even receiving game checks while preparing his defense! It was just fantasy footballer nonsense.

Peterson was facing criminal charges. Wouldn't it be a good deal for him to avoid those even if he didn't play this year? I have not been following this closely, but if I was facing criminal charges and possibly jail time I would not really be thinking about finishing out the season, I would be telling my lawyers to keep me out of jail at any cost and if that involves a plea deal so be it.

I don't buy, "The only reason he would make this deal is because he already got his ducks in a row to come back week 11, otherwise he would fight this in court."

This guy is still receiving game checks for doing nothing, right?
 
Insein said:
If they tried to suspend him for a year, they would have lost.
Why? Goodell's policy specifically says that he can extend the suspension if circumstances warrant it. (And "circumstances" in this case is defined as "whatever Roger Goodell wants it to mean").
Or the lack of remorse (which Goodell pointed out in the letter) Peterson showed after he was caught. Ultimately that's what did him in.

 
Holding until end of this week at least, and probably until a decision is made on the appeal (assuming he's removed from the CEL tomorrow).

 
Insein said:
If they tried to suspend him for a year, they would have lost.
Why? Goodell's policy specifically says that he can extend the suspension if circumstances warrant it. (And "circumstances" in this case is defined as "whatever Roger Goodell wants it to mean").
Or the lack of remorse (which Goodell pointed out in the letter) Peterson showed after he was caught. Ultimately that's what did him in.
You're not going to get charged with child abuse and turn around and say you're going to keep doing it.

 

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