Adrian Peterson, retired (4 Viewers)

[RUSF18]

As with many things in life, it's a risk/reward scenario. You're risking "X" jail time for "Y" money. "X" could be anywhere from 0 days (probation) to 2 years. "Y" could be anywhere from $0 to $4.4 million (or higher if Goodell wanted to add games).

Based on Peterson's status as: A) a first-time offender; B) a football player from Texas; and C) living in a discipline-friendly state, I'd be pretty confident that he was more likely to get probation than 2 years, and whatever jail time he did get would probably short enough to be served in the offseason.

Can someone find similar cases in Texas where a first-time offender was sentenced to 2 years in jail?

So start with $4.4MM and knock off 35% for taxes. Another 10% for agents/business managers. Lawyer fees for a quick plea deal are one thing...the trial and subsequent appeal won't be as cheap.

Now are you willing to risk spending the spring in jail when you have tens of millions in the bank already? How about once you put all those pictures of what you did to your kid and witness testimony in the public record? What about the chance of getting a judge who is tired of rich athletes getting away with everything and wants to make an example out of them?

 

[Joe Summer]

As with many things in life, it's a risk/reward scenario. You're risking "X" jail time for "Y" money. "X" could be anywhere from 0 days (probation) to 2 years. "Y" could be anywhere from $0 to $4.4 million (or higher if Goodell wanted to add games).

Based on Peterson's status as: A) a first-time offender; B) a football player from Texas; and C) living in a discipline-friendly state, I'd be pretty confident that he was more likely to get probation than 2 years, and whatever jail time he did get would probably short enough to be served in the offseason.

Can someone find similar cases in Texas where a first-time offender was sentenced to 2 years in jail?

So start with $4.4MM and knock off 35% for taxes. Another 10% for agents/business managers. Lawyer fees for a quick plea deal are one thing...the trial and subsequent appeal won't be as cheap.Now are you willing to risk spending the spring in jail when you have tens of millions in the bank already? How about once you put all those pictures of what you did to your kid and witness testimony in the public record? What about the chance of getting a judge who is tired of rich athletes getting away with everything and wants to make an example out of them?

You could also get a judge (or jury) who is tired of "the government" telling people how to raise their children, and wants to make an example of the grandstanding prosecutor. For $4.4 million dollars, it's a risk worth taking a serious look at.

I bet that if Peterson had to do it all over again -- knowing that he'd get suspended for 6+ games -- he'd take his chances in court.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Holding until end of this week at least, and probably until a decision is made on the appeal (assuming he's removed from the CEL tomorrow).

My same thought.

 

[RUSF18]

As with many things in life, it's a risk/reward scenario. You're risking "X" jail time for "Y" money. "X" could be anywhere from 0 days (probation) to 2 years. "Y" could be anywhere from $0 to $4.4 million (or higher if Goodell wanted to add games).

Based on Peterson's status as: A) a first-time offender; B) a football player from Texas; and C) living in a discipline-friendly state, I'd be pretty confident that he was more likely to get probation than 2 years, and whatever jail time he did get would probably short enough to be served in the offseason.

Can someone find similar cases in Texas where a first-time offender was sentenced to 2 years in jail?

So start with $4.4MM and knock off 35% for taxes. Another 10% for agents/business managers. Lawyer fees for a quick plea deal are one thing...the trial and subsequent appeal won't be as cheap.Now are you willing to risk spending the spring in jail when you have tens of millions in the bank already? How about once you put all those pictures of what you did to your kid and witness testimony in the public record? What about the chance of getting a judge who is tired of rich athletes getting away with everything and wants to make an example out of them?

You could also get a judge (or jury) who is tired of "the government" telling people how to raise their children, and wants to make an example of the grandstanding prosecutor.For $4.4 million dollars, it's a risk worth taking a serious look at.

I bet that if Peterson had to do it all over again -- knowing that he'd get suspended for 6+ games -- he'd take his chances in court.

And I bet that as soon as he heard that this #### was hitting the fan (once it clicked that what he considered to be "normal" wasn't normal to the rest of the world), he became worried that he'd never see another dollar from the NFL again and could end up out on his ### like Ray Rice. I'd also bet that privately, guys like Peterson and Greg Hardy think it's completely amazing that they ended up getting paid while their legal situations were being handled. And that even their lawyers, as they are explaining to their clients why they need to fight this and they craft these statements of outrage to be released publicly, say to them "you're lucky as all hell that you have millions coming in right now".

But that's just my opinion.

 

[Joe Summer]

And I bet that as soon as he heard that this #### was hitting the fan (once it clicked that what he considered to be "normal" wasn't normal to the rest of the world), he became worried that he'd never see another dollar from the NFL again and could end up out on his ### like Ray Rice.

Maybe. But what Peterson considers to be "normal" is also what a significant number of Texans consider to be normal. And all he needs is one member of the jury to agree with Peterson's idea of normal. (I believe Texas requires a unanimous jury for a felony conviction regarding child abuse, but correct me if I'm wrong.)

 

[cstu]

And I bet that as soon as he heard that this #### was hitting the fan (once it clicked that what he considered to be "normal" wasn't normal to the rest of the world), he became worried that he'd never see another dollar from the NFL again and could end up out on his ### like Ray Rice.

Maybe. But what Peterson considers to be "normal" is also what a significant number of Texans consider to be normal. And all he needs is one member of the jury to agree with Peterson's idea of normal. (I believe Texas requires a unanimous jury for a felony conviction regarding child abuse, but correct me if I'm wrong.)

I didn't think he would get convicted, hence the quick plea offer from the prosecutor. It didn't do him any good (except money) to go to court since he'd miss the entire season anyway.

 

[cstu]

And I bet that as soon as he heard that this #### was hitting the fan (once it clicked that what he considered to be "normal" wasn't normal to the rest of the world), he became worried that he'd never see another dollar from the NFL again and could end up out on his ### like Ray Rice. I'd also bet that privately, guys like Peterson and Greg Hardy think it's completely amazing that they ended up getting paid while their legal situations were being handled. And that even their lawyers, as they are explaining to their clients why they need to fight this and they craft these statements of outrage to be released publicly, say to them "you're lucky as all hell that you have millions coming in right now".

But that's just my opinion.

Most players would but Peterson had his sights on breaking Emmitt's record. That's pretty much out the window now, although he has a shot at possibly passing Payton.

 

[cstu]

If they tried to suspend him for a year, they would have lost.

Why? Goodell's policy specifically says that he can extend the suspension if circumstances warrant it. (And "circumstances" in this case is defined as "whatever Roger Goodell wants it to mean").

Or the lack of remorse (which Goodell pointed out in the letter) Peterson showed after he was caught. Ultimately that's what did him in.

You're not going to get charged with child abuse and turn around and say you're going to keep doing it.

I don't want to get into child rea, but it's what he believes and is legal in Texas.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

If they tried to suspend him for a year, they would have lost.

Why? Goodell's policy specifically says that he can extend the suspension if circumstances warrant it. (And "circumstances" in this case is defined as "whatever Roger Goodell wants it to mean").

Or the lack of remorse (which Goodell pointed out in the letter) Peterson showed after he was caught. Ultimately that's what did him in.

You're not going to get charged with child abuse and turn around and say you're going to keep doing it.

I don't want to get into child rea, but it's what he believes and is legal in Texas.

I don't disagree. I believe his lack of compassion is what ultimately made Goodell do what he did. It may be legal there and he may not believe what he did was wrong but Goodell specifically mentioning it in his letter is why I believe he went after him like he did. Had AP had a presser, jerked up some tears, admitted he was wrong and vowed to change I think he'd be playing

 

[JimmyJabroni]

If he is cleared from the Commish Exempt list, and the Vikings welcome him back to play while he goes through the Appeals process...does anyone have any idea of that time frame? How long does the typical appeal process take? Does it buy him a week, 2 weeks, a month?

 

[skol asylum]

Eric Dickerson, via Vikings newsreporter in Twitter:

@christomasson: Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson calls NFL "liars'' on Adrian Peterson discipline, doesn't expect he'll return to Vikings

http://blogs.twincities.com/vikings/2014/11/18/hall-famer-dickerson-calls-nfl-liars-regarding-peterson-discipline-doesnt-expect-hell-return-vikings/

@christomasson: Eric Dickerson on Adrian Peterson deal: I know how the NFL is, theyre a bunch of liars... The NFL says one thing and does something else

@christomasson: Eric Dickerson on Peterson returning: Ive heard some things they dont want him back. I dont think hell play again in Minnesota.

@christomasson: Dickerson Way black people discipline their kids is different from the way white people discipline their kids.Demand respect differently.

@christomasson: Eric Dickerson: "Most black kids arent going to (do bad things). We know were going to get knocked out.''

@christomasson: Dickerson: Its like an animal and Im not saying an animal is a child. When you train a dog to sit and stay you do what you have to do."

 

[skol asylum]

Wow

 

[GregR]

These so-called Insiders have no clue. From six days ago:

Rapoport said on Sunday's NFL GameDay Morning that while Peterson is facing a six-game suspension under the league's personal-conduct policy, his punishment would likely be shorter than that with a compromise based on time served and loss of pay. Rapoport noted that Peterson might return in December.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000427324/article/adrian-petersons-appeals-hearing-set-for-monday

They are just talking heads man.

I find Andrew Brandt to be very worth listening to. He is a professor of law so can parse the legal side of things. He was a player agent (for Ricky Williams, Hasselbeck and Vinatieri amongst others), so understands the player side of things. He was one of the head guys in the Packers front office, handling player contracts and managing the salary cap, so understands the team side of things.

He is about as complete a package as you can find for deciphering the realities of these kind of situations in the NFL, and he seems to look at things reasonably and not try to take sides. Doesn't mean he can predict what any given individual will do including Goodell, but when it comes to explaining the rule framework of these situations and the options available to the people in them, I find he's often worth listening to.

Edit to add: No clue what Rapoport's credentials are, beyond having a job at NFLN and that NFL people will answer his call.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

genius that guy

 

[JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo]

Eric Dickerson, via Vikings newsreporter in Twitter:

@christomasson: Dickerson: Its like an animal and Im not saying an animal is a child. When you train a dog to sit and stay you do what you have to do."

I hope he doesn't have kids OR dogs.

 

[Bacon]

Eric Dickerson, via Vikings newsreporter in Twitter:

@christomasson: Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson calls NFL "liars'' on Adrian Peterson discipline, doesn't expect he'll return to Vikings

http://blogs.twincities.com/vikings/2014/11/18/hall-famer-dickerson-calls-nfl-liars-regarding-peterson-discipline-doesnt-expect-hell-return-vikings/

@christomasson: Eric Dickerson on Adrian Peterson deal: I know how the NFL is, theyre a bunch of liars... The NFL says one thing and does something else

@christomasson: Eric Dickerson on Peterson returning: Ive heard some things they dont want him back. I dont think hell play again in Minnesota.

@christomasson: Dickerson Way black people discipline their kids is different from the way white people discipline their kids.Demand respect differently.

@christomasson: Eric Dickerson: "Most black kids arent going to (do bad things). We know were going to get knocked out.''

@christomasson: Dickerson: Its like an animal and Im not saying an animal is a child. When you train a dog to sit and stay you do what you have to do."

To get my dog to sit and stay we gave her a cookie.

Back on topic, I'm really not surprised at this move by the league. They're facing a PR nightmare and they need a few examples to show that they take this seriously. Hopefully we'll see some real action to change the culture of violence, too, with a battered family support fund, mandatory counseling for all players and their families, and some proper promotion of all the good things that the NFL's players do. I wish the charity work and outreach of the good players got as much press as the negative actions of the bad ones.

 

[GregR]

So as expected, PR is their motivation. They want to keep Peterson off the field until next year when things have blown over more.

In making it 6 games after listing multiple things that their policy said were supposed to justify a longer punishment, seemed like the NFL once again showed a lack of consistency in these things.

I have mostly just skimmed the last few pages but caught the post that said time on the CEL was taken into consideration (as to why it wasn't longer), though haven't myself seen any articles yet. If so... eh, if so that should have been mentioned in the notification to Peterson, I think. If it was then mea culpa, but what I saw come through email didn't mention it.

I don't have much doubt they were aiming at 6 games for the PR reasons of pushing his return to next year... and will do whatever it takes to make it that. NFL had a chance here to begin to turn the course of relations with the players. But they just botched it further.

 

[GregR]

If he is cleared from the Commish Exempt list, and the Vikings welcome him back to play while he goes through the Appeals process...does anyone have any idea of that time frame? How long does the typical appeal process take? Does it buy him a week, 2 weeks, a month?

Not positive, but I think this section of the CBA would cover it:

If the grievance involves a suspension of a player by a Club, the player or NFLPA will have the option to appeal it immediately upon filing to the Notice Arbitrator and a hearing will be held by an arbitrator designated by the Notice Arbitrator within seven (7) days of the filing of the grievance. The NFLPA and the NFL will engage in good faith efforts to schedule grievances involving suspension of a player by a Club prior to the Club’s next scheduled game. In addition, the NFLPA and the Management Council will each have the right of immediate appeal and hearing within seven (7) days with respect to four (4) grievances of their respective choice each calendar year. The arbitrator(s) designated to hear such grievances will issue their decision(s) within five (5) days of the completion of the hearing.

So maximum of 12 days plus however long the hearing takes, if that is the right section. Though they are supposed to try to get the hearing in before the player's next game.

 

[glumpy]

And I bet that as soon as he heard that this #### was hitting the fan (once it clicked that what he considered to be "normal" wasn't normal to the rest of the world), he became worried that he'd never see another dollar from the NFL again and could end up out on his ### like Ray Rice.

Maybe. But what Peterson considers to be "normal" is also what a significant number of Texans consider to be normal. And all he needs is one member of the jury to agree with Peterson's idea of normal. (I believe Texas requires a unanimous jury for a felony conviction regarding child abuse, but correct me if I'm wrong.)

Without having followed this to the nth detail, using a switch was considered normal in my own childhood.

 

[T with T]

Eric Dickerson, via Vikings newsreporter in Twitter:

@christomasson: Dickerson: Its like an animal and Im not saying an animal is a child. When you train a dog to sit and stay you do what you have to do."

I hope he doesn't have kids OR dogs.

 

[Rooster]

Twitter reports that the arbitrator ruled that Peterson can stay on the exempt list.

source, this tweet that was retweeted by the NFL: https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/534832705662648320

 

[mnmplayer]

Man, all the wasted time of the internet lawyers arguing the semantics of the linguistical meaning of the words in the CBA. This is a PR problem, not a legal one. The lawyers can argue until they are blue in the face, and some might even have merit, but there was no way the commissioner was going to let AP play, and if somehow, someway AP does make his way onto the field it won't be by his doing. It will be the Players Association that will get the "Wraith of Khan" libs attacking them until they relent at the last second. There is too much at stake, too much NFL money to be lost, too much attention to NFL's misdeeds in the past. Only a myopic rotoworld fantasy football type would have thought AP was coming back this season.

There has been a strategy to keep AP off the field and it is no coincidence to the timing of this densely written victim piece. NYT needs to sell their rag of a newspaper too and this is the kind of froth that sells newspapers, "big ugly athlete getting all the rules bent for his sake, and the victim pays the price, over and over."

Just read this article and tell me how RG frees AP to play this year?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/sports/football/an-accusation-of-abuse-then-special-treatment-for-nfl-player.html?partner=rss&_r=0

Do you realize the kind of PR wraith that would follow if Rice or AP played again this year? RG is backed into a corner especially after the Ray Rice deal. This is PR and PR associated all these events together even if semantics says each case stands on its own. NFL is under PR damage control right now. Live with it.

Interesting response from a poster with a Gordon avatar. Driving while intoxicated has more potential consequences than what Peterson did. Two athletes have died in the past few months while driving intoxicated - Bironas and Tavares. If Goodell is so concerned about having perfect PR, Gordon should not be playing this year either.

It's also important not to forget that Leonard Little only received an eight game suspension for killing someone while drunk. If that's too long ago, Cowboys welcome back Josh Brent this week after killing his friend while drunk. Brent was doing over 110 MPH in a 45 when he crashed (some reports say as much as 130 MPH) Yet, Goodell has no problem having a partnership with Anheiser Busch. He has no problem allowing these players back on the field. I don't agree with what Ray Rice or Peterson did, but because they are house hold names, Goodell wants to make examples out of them.

That is the issue I have with this process. There is no consistency with punishments.

[SIZE=medium]What the internet lawyers don’t understand is all the statistics, supporting links & logical arguments you can point to about things unrelated to this PR problem are irrelevant, including Josh Gordon as that case has been put to rest and there is no public outcry against it on the NYT or anywhere else. While you might be right that it can be used as a logical precedent for punishment and you are correct that drunk driving is egregious and should be penalized, it’s not part of *this* PR problem that the NFL, AP & Rice are facing (domestic violence). Trying to resolve a logical suspension time for AP using Gordon or Leonard Little as claim for less time is again missing the point. It means nothing PR wise compared to AP’s case. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Take immigration; you can argue the logical points against undocumented immigration and cite all the social problems, spread of disease, crime, etc. with it and even point to the existing laws that should be enforced in deporting the “illegal immigrants”, yet entire neighborhoods are known to house them, yet nothing is done by local law enforcement or the INS to raid these ‘hoods’, collect & deport them. Why? Because Obama would be there drumming up PR support from the media faster than you can say golf course. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]If the “PR guy” says to support illegal immigration (even if it’s wrong) because it will generate more votes in a Texas/Arizona/California counties where significant percentages of the population are undocumented workers, they do it, the arguments/logic/laws be damned. It doesn’t matter if you are on the right side of justice, all that matters is public perception because what really happens is irrelevant, public perception is reality. Why do you think this country is so screwed up? PR shapes everything. Ever heard of the term politically correct? It trumps everything in the media and RG knows this is where the NFL's perception get's shaped, the media. He is not going to create a #### storm for the NFL in the seeking of “justice” for AP, not in this PR environment even if it is just. The PR media will wipe their behind with the CBA clauses that the internet lawyers keep bringing up and replace logic with sound bites and sympathy stories about victims and how NFL players get away with beating their children and wives. This will be the spin 24/7. This NYT story was perfectly timed and a shot across the bow to let RG know what the NFL was in store for if he let AP back onto the field.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]RG made a smart move when he hired ‘experts’ to help him dole out the punishment. He has played this perfectly because if people complain the punishment is too harsh he can point to his expert advisors and say he followed their advice (who is politically incorrect enough to take a public stand against some domestic abuse expert in public, besides Eric Dickerson?), and if they point to the punishment being too lenient he can again point to the ‘expert’ advisors. He has insulated his career from this PR nightmare because even if AP sues to get on the field and wins, he can say he did all he could to stop that too. In contrast, if Jerry Jones was commissioner he would have gone on talk radio the morning all this broke and started spouting off stupid things like "kids need a good woopin once in a while" to talk show hosts that he would be backtracking on now and would probably get jettisoned from the NFL commissioner job before you can say “Big D”. RG isn’t going anywhere, at least not from this. He planned his whole life to be the NFL commissioner. This isn't going to be his downfall.[/SIZE]

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Twitter reports that the arbitrator ruled that Peterson can stay on the exempt list.

source, this tweet that was retweeted by the NFL: https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/534832705662648320

Well, that's a wrap, gents.

 

[GregR]

Twitter reports that the arbitrator ruled that Peterson can stay on the exempt list.

source, this tweet that was retweeted by the NFL: https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/534832705662648320

Really hope we're going to get to see the text of his ruling.

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

So as expected, PR is their motivation. They want to keep Peterson off the field until next year when things have blown over more.

In making it 6 games after listing multiple things that their policy said were supposed to justify a longer punishment, seemed like the NFL once again showed a lack of consistency in these things.

I have mostly just skimmed the last few pages but caught the post that said time on the CEL was taken into consideration (as to why it wasn't longer), though haven't myself seen any articles yet. If so... eh, if so that should have been mentioned in the notification to Peterson, I think. If it was then mea culpa, but what I saw come through email didn't mention it.

I don't have much doubt they were aiming at 6 games for the PR reasons of pushing his return to next year... and will do whatever it takes to make it that. NFL had a chance here to begin to turn the course of relations with the players. But they just botched it further.

If it is just 6 games then why must he wait until April 15 before he can apply for reinstatement?

 

[cstu]

Roethlisberger rapes girls and gets a 6 game suspension (reduced to 4...well, because) but Peterson is reckless disciplining his son and gets a year and maybe more.

 

[cstu]

So as expected, PR is their motivation. They want to keep Peterson off the field until next year when things have blown over more.

In making it 6 games after listing multiple things that their policy said were supposed to justify a longer punishment, seemed like the NFL once again showed a lack of consistency in these things.

I have mostly just skimmed the last few pages but caught the post that said time on the CEL was taken into consideration (as to why it wasn't longer), though haven't myself seen any articles yet. If so... eh, if so that should have been mentioned in the notification to Peterson, I think. If it was then mea culpa, but what I saw come through email didn't mention it.

I don't have much doubt they were aiming at 6 games for the PR reasons of pushing his return to next year... and will do whatever it takes to make it that. NFL had a chance here to begin to turn the course of relations with the players. But they just botched it further.

If it is just 6 games then why must he wait until April 15 before he can apply for reinstatement?

He has to prove himself to God, Goodell.

 

[cstu]

Twitter reports that the arbitrator ruled that Peterson can stay on the exempt list.

source, this tweet that was retweeted by the NFL: https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/534832705662648320

How in the world?

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

Roethlisberger rapes girls and gets a 6 game suspension (reduced to 4...well, because) but Peterson is reckless disciplining his son and gets a year and maybe more.

here we go again. But you are justifying it so it's ok.

 

[Joe Summer]

If it is just 6 games then why must he wait until April 15 before he can apply for reinstatement?

Maybe because it allows the Vikings to avoid paying him a $250K workout bonus, which was due in March?

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

If it is just 6 games then why must he wait until April 15 before he can apply for reinstatement?

Maybe because it allows the Vikings to avoid paying him a $250K workout bonus, which was due in March?

They're cutting him anyway.

 

[SameSongNDance]

It's gonna be hilarious to watch all the tears shed in this thread that are anti-Peterson when he's reinstated by Wednesday morning.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Twitter reports that the arbitrator ruled that Peterson can stay on the exempt list.

source, this tweet that was retweeted by the NFL: https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/534832705662648320

How in the world?

He is safe to be cut.

 

[JimmyJabroni]

ah well it was fun holding on to that dream of having my fantasy season saved

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@MikeGarafolo: Read arbitrator's findings on Peterson. He agrees w/ NFL's assertion Goodell decides when a player comes off the commish exempt list.

 

[skol asylum]

Of course he does.

$$$$$$$

 

[MaxThreshold]

ah well it was fun holding on to that dream of having my fantasy season saved

Yeah, I need Peterson to save my 10 - 1 season so far.

 

[MaxThreshold]

@MikeGarafolo: Read arbitrator's findings on Peterson. He agrees w/ NFL's assertion Goodell decides when a player comes off the commish exempt list.

Who hires these arbitrators? It seems like they know that they have to always rule in the NFL's favor despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Just seems like there is collusion going on between the arbitrator and the NFL.

 

[snogger]

@MikeGarafolo: Read arbitrator's findings on Peterson. He agrees w/ NFL's assertion Goodell decides when a player comes off the commish exempt list.

Pretty much guarantees no player will ever agree to go on the exempt list again.

 

[MaxThreshold]

@MikeGarafolo: Read arbitrator's findings on Peterson. He agrees w/ NFL's assertion Goodell decides when a player comes off the commish exempt list.

Pretty much guarantees no player will ever agree to go on the exempt list again.

I simply cannot see how the NFL survives a lawsuit on this.

 

[Rockchild]

@MikeGarafolo: Read arbitrator's findings on Peterson. He agrees w/ NFL's assertion Goodell decides when a player comes off the commish exempt list.

So if he's still on the exempt list, how can they suspend him?

 

[Joe Summer]

@MikeGarafolo: Read arbitrator's findings on Peterson. He agrees w/ NFL's assertion Goodell decides when a player comes off the commish exempt list.

Pretty much guarantees no player will ever agree to go on the exempt list again.

I simply cannot see how the NFL survives a lawsuit on this.

"The Collective Bargaining Agreement gives us the right to do whatever we want." /dropsmic

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@JoeBanner13: If the belief of AP people was that agreement said he had to come of list now, then he should be really mad at whoever approved the language

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Twitter reports that the arbitrator ruled that Peterson can stay on the exempt list.

source, this tweet that was retweeted by the NFL: https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/534832705662648320

How in the world?

Probably because the arbitrator had access to more information than the "Internet labor lawyers" did, and wasn't just eating up hype put out by the NFLPA.

 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

Twitter reports that the arbitrator ruled that Peterson can stay on the exempt list.

source, this tweet that was retweeted by the NFL: https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/534832705662648320

How in the world?

Probably because the arbitrator had access to more information than the "Internet labor lawyers" did, and wasn't just eating up hype put out by the NFLPA.

FWIW, local radio has it that the arbitrator's explanation has something to do with Peterson still having the ability to appeal the NFL decision which means that the punishment/result is not complete and therefore he may remain on the exempt list.

Just passing on what I heard on KFAN so don't expect me to defend or explain this.

 

[bigbrownbag]

I have a silly question.

What was the "Rea" of "Child Rea" going to be? I'm assuming it was a word that got cut short, but I've stared at this thread for weeks now and seriously have no idea.

 

[cstu]

Twitter reports that the arbitrator ruled that Peterson can stay on the exempt list.

source, this tweet that was retweeted by the NFL: https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/534832705662648320

How in the world?

Probably because the arbitrator had access to more information than the "Internet labor lawyers" did, and wasn't just eating up hype put out by the NFLPA.

FWIW, local radio has it that the arbitrator's explanation has something to do with Peterson still having the ability to appeal the NFL decision which means that the punishment/result is not complete and therefore he may remain on the exempt list.

Just passing on what I heard on KFAN so don't expect me to defend or explain this.

Ok, so he passed the buck now that he's suspended.

 

[cstu]

I have a silly question.

What was the "Rea" of "Child Rea" going to be? I'm assuming it was a word that got cut short, but I've stared at this thread for weeks now and seriously have no idea.

Rearing.

 

[cstu]

@MikeGarafolo: Read arbitrator's findings on Peterson. He agrees w/ NFL's assertion Goodell decides when a player comes off the commish exempt list.

Who hires these arbitrators? It seems like they know that they have to always rule in the NFL's favor despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Just seems like there is collusion going on between the arbitrator and the NFL.

Well I'm sure he likes being an arbitrator so he's not going to do anything to lose his job.

 

[snogger]

@MikeGarafolo: Read arbitrator's findings on Peterson. He agrees w/ NFL's assertion Goodell decides when a player comes off the commish exempt list.

Pretty much guarantees no player will ever agree to go on the exempt list again.

I simply cannot see how the NFL survives a lawsuit on this.

"The Collective Bargaining Agreement gives us the right to do whatever we want." /dropsmic

"Drops mic"