Adrian Peterson, retired (3 Viewers)

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Did Goodell ignore Peterson's press release like he ignored Rice's video tape?

http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Statement-From-Adrian-Peterson/aabb41f8-1afe-4133-8b30-71390b6a3fbf

My attorney has asked me not to discuss the facts of my pending case. I hope you can respect that request and help me honor it. I very much want the public to hear from me but I understand that it is not appropriate to talk about the facts in detail at this time. Nevertheless, I want everyone to understand how sorry I feel about the hurt I have brought to my child.

I never wanted to be a distraction to the Vikings organization, the Minnesota community or to my teammates. I never imagined being in a position where the world is judging my parenting skills or calling me a child abuser because of the discipline I administered to my son.

I voluntarily appeared before the grand jury several weeks ago to answer any and all questions they had. Before my grand jury appearance, I was interviewed by two different police agencies without an attorney. In each of these interviews I have said the same thing, and that is that I never ever intended to harm my son. I will say the same thing once I have my day in court.

I have to live with the fact that when I disciplined my son the way I was disciplined as a child, I caused an injury that I never intended or thought would happen. I know that many people disagree with the way I disciplined my child. I also understand after meeting with a psychologist that there are other alternative ways of disciplining a child that may be more appropriate.

I have learned a lot and have had to reevaluate how I discipline my son going forward. But deep in my heart I have always believed I could have been one of those kids that was lost in the streets without the discipline instilled in me by my parents and other relatives. I have always believed that the way my parents disciplined me has a great deal to do with the success I have enjoyed as a man. I love my son and I will continue to become a better parent and learn from any mistakes I ever make.

I am not a perfect son. I am not a perfect husband. I am not a perfect parent, but I am, without a doubt, not a child abuser. I am someone that disciplined his child and did not intend to cause him any injury. No one can understand the hurt that I feel for my son and for the harm I caused him. My goal is always to teach my son right from wrong and that's what I tried to do that day.

I accept the fact that people feel very strongly about this issue and what they think about my conduct. Regardless of what others think, however, I love my son very much and I will continue to try to become a better father and person.

That came from cheapremorsestatements.com.

What, you don't think he authored that intelligent, thoughtful statement all by himself???

Adrian Peterson @AdrianPeterson · 1d 1 day ago

The GRAND JURY DECIDED NOT TO INDICT ME TOO! But that changed a week LATER! MAYBE,BUT NOT LIKELY N THIS CASE #PUTyourTrustNGODnotINtheWORLD!

pretty sure he's got the lead in Twit and Twitter when they make that movie

 

[cvnpoka]

This could be what the Vikings ended up wanting.

anyone with a clue in that organization no doubt hoped for this, if only to protect it from itself. they are lucky, in a sense, that now they arent able to embarrass themselves by putting this scumbag back on the field to represent their organization.

seriously??? I'm sure the Steelers aren't upset with their Scumbag LeVonn Bell who was arrested for DUI and weed and yes they should be looked at as the same level of punishment. A drunk driver behind the wheel of a car is a danger to everyone else.

http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/

no they arent. beating your kid to the point of bruises that last for weeks is far worse than driving while high (or even drunk.)

the problem with the vikings is that its clear that many powerful ppl in that organization want peterson back on the field. i am sure there are a few others that realize how disgusting his actions were and would be ashamed to be associated with a team allowing him to represent them.

 

[Pots]

This could be what the Vikings ended up wanting.

anyone with a clue in that organization no doubt hoped for this, if only to protect it from itself. they are lucky, in a sense, that now they arent able to embarrass themselves by putting this scumbag back on the field to represent their organization.

seriously??? I'm sure the Steelers aren't upset with their Scumbag LeVonn Bell who was arrested for DUI and weed and yes they should be looked at as the same level of punishment. A drunk driver behind the wheel of a car is a danger to everyone else.

http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/

no they arent. beating your kid to the point of bruises that last for weeks is far worse than driving while high (or even drunk.)

Not sure we want to go into comparisons on which one is worse. Not everyone will agree, the devil's in the details, and you're getting dangerously close to the "No Debates About Child Rearing" point of this thread.

 

[DropKick]

This could be what the Vikings ended up wanting.

anyone with a clue in that organization no doubt hoped for this, if only to protect it from itself. they are lucky, in a sense, that now they arent able to embarrass themselves by putting this scumbag back on the field to represent their organization.

seriously??? I'm sure the Steelers aren't upset with their Scumbag LeVonn Bell who was arrested for DUI and weed and yes they should be looked at as the same level of punishment. A drunk driver behind the wheel of a car is a danger to everyone else.

http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/

no they arent. beating your kid to the point of bruises that last for weeks is far worse than driving while high (or even drunk.)

the problem with the vikings is that its clear that many powerful ppl in that organization want peterson back on the field. i am sure there are a few others that realize how disgusting his actions were and would be ashamed to be associated with a team allowing him to represent them.

Could you elaborate on this point? I think it was clear to the objective observer that the '14 Vikings were not play-off caliber. The bottom line is usually money and Peterson is overpaid relative to what other backs are paid these days. Don't they save $4M this year and somewhere around 15-16M next year?

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Now is the time for AP to be reinstated under the cover of Ferguson, by the time national news finds out he'll have already played 2 games.

 

[Dizzy]

This could be what the Vikings ended up wanting.

anyone with a clue in that organization no doubt hoped for this, if only to protect it from itself. they are lucky, in a sense, that now they arent able to embarrass themselves by putting this scumbag back on the field to represent their organization.

seriously??? I'm sure the Steelers aren't upset with their Scumbag LeVonn Bell who was arrested for DUI and weed and yes they should be looked at as the same level of punishment. A drunk driver behind the wheel of a car is a danger to everyone else.

http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/

no they arent. beating your kid to the point of bruises that last for weeks is far worse than driving while high (or even drunk.)

the problem with the vikings is that its clear that many powerful ppl in that organization want peterson back on the field. i am sure there are a few others that realize how disgusting his actions were and would be ashamed to be associated with a team allowing him to represent them.

Could you elaborate on this point? I think it was clear to the objective observer that the '14 Vikings were not play-off caliber. The bottom line is usually money and Peterson is overpaid relative to what other backs are paid these days. Don't they save $4M this year and somewhere around 15-16M next year?

Very good point. Adrian Peterson, the last of the "franchise runningbacks."

 

[cvnpoka]

no they arent. beating your kid to the point of bruises that last for weeks is far worse than driving while high (or even drunk.)

the problem with the vikings is that its clear that many powerful ppl in that organization want peterson back on the field. i am sure there are a few others that realize how disgusting his actions were and would be ashamed to be associated with a team allowing him to represent them.

Could you elaborate on this point? I think it was clear to the objective observer that the '14 Vikings were not play-off caliber. The bottom line is usually money and Peterson is overpaid relative to what other backs are paid these days. Don't they save $4M this year and somewhere around 15-16M next year?

well, i as just going on the public statements and actions of the higher ups on the team. the gm and president tried to bring him back but succumbed to public pressure. the coach has been steadfastly supportive.

 

[VikingFrog]

@ProFootballTalk: Potential item from Rice appeal that helps Peterson: Goodell told Rice the new domestic violence policy applies going forward, not backward.

 

[Phenomena]

@ProFootballTalk: Potential item from Rice appeal that helps Peterson: Goodell told Rice the new domestic violence policy applies going forward, not backward.

Peterson stuff happened after the new policies. I don't know how that helps AP.

 

[Joe Summer]

@ProFootballTalk: Potential item from Rice appeal that helps Peterson: Goodell told Rice the new domestic violence policy applies going forward, not backward.

Peterson stuff happened after the new policies. I don't know how that helps AP.

Peterson incident happened May 18, 2014.

New domestic violence policy enacted August 28, 2014.

 

[tdhartis]

@ProFootballTalk: Potential item from Rice appeal that helps Peterson: Goodell told Rice the new domestic violence policy applies going forward, not backward.

Peterson stuff happened after the new policies. I don't know how that helps AP.

Peterson incident happened May 18, 2014.

New domestic violence policy enacted August 28, 2014.

This alone makes me want to pick him up and stash him for a week.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

@ProFootballTalk: Potential item from Rice appeal that helps Peterson: Goodell told Rice the new domestic violence policy applies going forward, not backward.

Peterson stuff happened after the new policies. I don't know how that helps AP.

Peterson incident happened May 18, 2014.

New domestic violence policy enacted August 28, 2014.

And the DV policy was entirely outside the CBA anyway. None of it matters unless Peterson gets a fair and independent hearing like Rice did.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport 8m

8 minutes ago
Union has asked league to compel VP/FB Ops Troy Vincent to testify as a “central witness” in Peterson case

 

[VikingFrog]

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport 8m

8 minutes ago

Union has asked league to compel VP/FB Ops Troy Vincent to testify as a central witness in Peterson case

Witnes to what?Sorry if that's a dumb question. Is this a witness to what was said to Peterson about his punishment before he went on exempt list?

 

[MaxThreshold]

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport 8m

8 minutes ago

Union has asked league to compel VP/FB Ops Troy Vincent to testify as a central witness in Peterson case

Witnes to what?Sorry if that's a dumb question. Is this a witness to what was said to Peterson about his punishment before he went on exempt list?

I believe Vincent, per Peterson and the Union, explicitly said Peterson would only get "time served". Whether that's valid or not to the judge/mediator I don't know.

 

[Whizzinator]

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport 8m

8 minutes ago

Union has asked league to compel VP/FB Ops Troy Vincent to testify as a central witness in Peterson case

Witnes to what?Sorry if that's a dumb question. Is this a witness to what was said to Peterson about his punishment before he went on exempt list?

I believe Vincent, per Peterson and the Union, explicitly said Peterson would only get "time served". Whether that's valid or not to the judge/mediator I don't know.

Since Goodell is the final word, it doesn't matter for now.

When AP sues the league (likely through an antitrust theory)...then it will matter

 

[snogger]

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport 8m

8 minutes ago

Union has asked league to compel VP/FB Ops Troy Vincent to testify as a central witness in Peterson case

Witnes to what?Sorry if that's a dumb question. Is this a witness to what was said to Peterson about his punishment before he went on exempt list?

I believe Vincent, per Peterson and the Union, explicitly said Peterson would only get "time served". Whether that's valid or not to the judge/mediator I don't know.

If this report is true Peterson does "Have a leg to stand on":

Peterson evidence includes transcript of taped conversation with VincentPeterson contends that NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent told Peterson that time missed on the Commissioner-Exempt list will be treated as “time served” for the purposes of his discipline under the personal conduct policy. Per multiple sources, the evidence submitted by Peterson in connection with his appeal includes a transcript of a conversation between Peterson and Vincent.

 

[rockaction]

Isn't his appeal set for today? I thought it was Dec. 2nd.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

A transcript. There's a transcript. And an audio recording. Have got laugh and cry at the same time.

But the appeal is fixed though, right? Because the hearing officer is a league man?

The Rice fallout really out to show how completely disingenuous Goodell is. That should be the outcome here too (and should have been before) but I don't get the sense there is any kind of fair hearing or due process here.

 

[VikingFrog]

Isn't his appeal set for today? I thought it was Dec. 2nd.

I think it's the 3rd. But that's just off the top of my head.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Isn't his appeal set for today? I thought it was Dec. 2nd.

I think it's the 3rd. But that's just off the top of my head.

From PFT:

Peterson’s appeal will be formally presented to former NFL employee Harold Henderson on Tuesday.

 

[VikingFrog]

Isn't his appeal set for today? I thought it was Dec. 2nd.

I think it's the 3rd. But that's just off the top of my head.

From PFT:

Petersons appeal will be formally presented to former NFL employee Harold Henderson on Tuesday.

I was wrong. It's actually a good thing that it's today as he's on my bench and waivers run tonight. Should give those still holding him a better opportunity to replace him with someone else if all signs point to no.

 

[VikingFrog]

Is today just the hearing, or would they make a decision today?

 

[TDorBust]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago
Harold Henderson said he wants NFL exec Troy Vincent to testify in Peterson appeal Thurs or Friday. A settlement by then is possible.

So no decision until after?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Is today just the hearing, or would they make a decision today?

Usually I think it can take a few days at least, maybe even a couple weeks?

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago
Harold Henderson said he wants NFL exec Troy Vincent to testify in Peterson appeal Thurs or Friday. A settlement by then is possible.

So no decision until after?

Wait, what?

 

[TDorBust]

Is today just the hearing, or would they make a decision today?

Usually I think it can take a few days at least, maybe even a couple weeks?

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago
Harold Henderson said he wants NFL exec Troy Vincent to testify in Peterson appeal Thurs or Friday. A settlement by then is possible.

So no decision until after?

Wait, what?

Says possible not plausible, the way things have been going I personally feel it would be after any testimony from Troy Vincent.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Is today just the hearing, or would they make a decision today?

Usually I think it can take a few days at least, maybe even a couple weeks?

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago
Harold Henderson said he wants NFL exec Troy Vincent to testify in Peterson appeal Thurs or Friday. A settlement by then is possible.

So no decision until after?

Wait, what?

Says possible not plausible, the way things have been going I personally feel it would be after any testimony from Troy Vincent. Your on the side saying the NFL and NFLPA bury the hatchet and move forward before then?

First of all I guess "Thurs or Fri" means this could take a few days. For another re: what's "possible" that's Shefter's commentary, he seems to indicate before the testimony, ie "by then". I had been under the impression the NFL wasn't settling anything. OTOH if they are concerned about the testimony then maybe yeah, they could settle I guess. I obviously don't know, pure speculation here.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Is today just the hearing, or would they make a decision today?

Usually I think it can take a few days at least, maybe even a couple weeks?

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago

Harold Henderson said he wants NFL exec Troy Vincent to testify in Peterson appeal Thurs or Friday. A settlement by then is possible.



So no decision until after?

Wait, what?

Says possible not plausible, the way things have been going I personally feel it would be after any testimony from Troy Vincent.

Except Vincent has no authority to make any decision. IMO his testimony won't amount to a hill of beans to Mr. Henderson.

 

[Joe Summer]

Is today just the hearing, or would they make a decision today?

Usually I think it can take a few days at least, maybe even a couple weeks?

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago

Harold Henderson said he wants NFL exec Troy Vincent to testify in Peterson appeal Thurs or Friday. A settlement by then is possible.



So no decision until after?

Wait, what?

Says possible not plausible, the way things have been going I personally feel it would be after any testimony from Troy Vincent.

I heard on the radio this morning that the NFL is trying to get Peterson to settle for reinstatement in February, which would allow him to be a free agent at the same time as all the other free agents.

 

[Jerry Curl]

This is so bad for the league and Goodell.

If Henderson wants him to testify it means the stuff on the tape is exactly what we all think it is, the smoking gun to the fact that you cant trust the commishes office.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Is today just the hearing, or would they make a decision today?

Usually I think it can take a few days at least, maybe even a couple weeks?

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago

Harold Henderson said he wants NFL exec Troy Vincent to testify in Peterson appeal Thurs or Friday. A settlement by then is possible.



So no decision until after?

Wait, what?

Says possible not plausible, the way things have been going I personally feel it would be after any testimony from Troy Vincent.

I heard on the radio this morning that the NFL is trying to get Peterson to settle for reinstatement in February, which would allow him to be a free agent at the same time as all the other free agents.

This is so bad for the league and Goodell.

If Henderson wants him to testify it means the stuff on the tape is exactly what we all think it is, the smoking gun to the fact that you cant trust the commishes office.

If that's the case, why settle for February and not what was originally promised?

 

[bolzano]

Is today just the hearing, or would they make a decision today?

Usually I think it can take a few days at least, maybe even a couple weeks?

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago

Harold Henderson said he wants NFL exec Troy Vincent to testify in Peterson appeal Thurs or Friday. A settlement by then is possible.



So no decision until after?

Wait, what?

Says possible not plausible, the way things have been going I personally feel it would be after any testimony from Troy Vincent.

I heard on the radio this morning that the NFL is trying to get Peterson to settle for reinstatement in February, which would allow him to be a free agent at the same time as all the other free agents.

This is so bad for the league and Goodell.

If Henderson wants him to testify it means the stuff on the tape is exactly what we all think it is, the smoking gun to the fact that you cant trust the commishes office.

If that's the case, why settle for February and not what was originally promised?

If Werder's tweet is correct (below), AP never followed through on his part of the deal.

Adrian Peterson appeal contends #NFL VP Troy Vincent told player would get time served plus 2-game suspension if attended discipline hearing

https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/539819121605877760

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Is today just the hearing, or would they make a decision today?

Usually I think it can take a few days at least, maybe even a couple weeks?

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago

Harold Henderson said he wants NFL exec Troy Vincent to testify in Peterson appeal Thurs or Friday. A settlement by then is possible.



So no decision until after?

Wait, what?

Says possible not plausible, the way things have been going I personally feel it would be after any testimony from Troy Vincent.

I heard on the radio this morning that the NFL is trying to get Peterson to settle for reinstatement in February, which would allow him to be a free agent at the same time as all the other free agents.

This is so bad for the league and Goodell.

If Henderson wants him to testify it means the stuff on the tape is exactly what we all think it is, the smoking gun to the fact that you cant trust the commishes office.

If that's the case, why settle for February and not what was originally promised?

If Werder's tweet is correct (below), AP never followed through on his part of the deal.

Adrian Peterson appeal contends #NFL VP Troy Vincent told player would get time served plus 2-game suspension if attended discipline hearing

https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/539819121605877760

He also did not testify today at his own hearing. I'm no lawyer, but his law team has mismanaged this from the beginning.

 

[VikingFrog]

Is today just the hearing, or would they make a decision today?

Usually I think it can take a few days at least, maybe even a couple weeks?

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago

Harold Henderson said he wants NFL exec Troy Vincent to testify in Peterson appeal Thurs or Friday. A settlement by then is possible.



So no decision until after?

Wait, what?

Says possible not plausible, the way things have been going I personally feel it would be after any testimony from Troy Vincent.

I heard on the radio this morning that the NFL is trying to get Peterson to settle for reinstatement in February, which would allow him to be a free agent at the same time as all the other free agents.

This is so bad for the league and Goodell.

If Henderson wants him to testify it means the stuff on the tape is exactly what we all think it is, the smoking gun to the fact that you cant trust the commishes office.

If that's the case, why settle for February and not what was originally promised?

If Werder's tweet is correct (below), AP never followed through on his part of the deal.

Adrian Peterson appeal contends #NFL VP Troy Vincent told player would get time served plus 2-game suspension if attended discipline hearing

https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/539819121605877760

He also did not testify today at his own hearing. I'm no lawyer, but his law team has mismanaged this from the beginning.

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=11968121&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2F1S9vEceMjD%22%7D

"Peterson did not testify, but Harold Henderson, who heard the appeal, allowed the suspended Minnesota Vikings running back to make a statement, sources tell ESPN. The content of Peterson's statement is unknown."

From this article's wording, I'm not sure if he didn't testify because he didn't want to, or he didn't need to. He did make a statement, which was "allowed", which is an odd word choice for someone who refused to testify.

 

[maf005]

Goodell is taking a lot of criticism for his handling of this, and rightly so. But I can't help but think that Hardin (and perhaps the NFLPA) has also completely botched Peterson's defense as it relates to the NFL. When one entity has close to total discretion on a ruling of your client, to me it would make sense to try to work with and be compliant with that entity's requests, even if it's not standard lawyer practice.

Or I'm completely wrong assuming this could have played out any other way? ie Peterson being more willing to meet with the NFL about the case, more remorseful and proactive about admitting guilt, etc leading to him being on the field this season

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

This is so bad for the league and Goodell.

no its not.

league is fine, goodell is fine

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Is today just the hearing, or would they make a decision today?

Usually I think it can take a few days at least, maybe even a couple weeks?

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago

Harold Henderson said he wants NFL exec Troy Vincent to testify in Peterson appeal Thurs or Friday. A settlement by then is possible.



So no decision until after?

Wait, what?

Says possible not plausible, the way things have been going I personally feel it would be after any testimony from Troy Vincent.

I heard on the radio this morning that the NFL is trying to get Peterson to settle for reinstatement in February, which would allow him to be a free agent at the same time as all the other free agents.

This is so bad for the league and Goodell.

If Henderson wants him to testify it means the stuff on the tape is exactly what we all think it is, the smoking gun to the fact that you cant trust the commishes office.

If that's the case, why settle for February and not what was originally promised?

If Werder's tweet is correct (below), AP never followed through on his part of the deal.

Adrian Peterson appeal contends #NFL VP Troy Vincent told player would get time served plus 2-game suspension if attended discipline hearing

https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/539819121605877760

He also did not testify today at his own hearing. I'm no lawyer, but his law team has mismanaged this from the beginning.

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=11968121&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2F1S9vEceMjD%22%7D

"Peterson did not testify, but Harold Henderson, who heard the appeal, allowed the suspended Minnesota Vikings running back to make a statement, sources tell ESPN. The content of Peterson's statement is unknown."

From this article's wording, I'm not sure if he didn't testify because he didn't want to, or he didn't need to. He did make a statement, which was "allowed", which is an odd word choice for someone who refused to testify.

Right. But what the league has wanted is for him to talk to them and show some remorse. He's missed a meeting and (according to the league's opinion) not shown enough remorse. This was yet another opportunity to come forward, answer their questions, and show remorse. What did his team do? Literally mailed it in with a statement. Wrong move (again) IMO.

 

[Loan Sharks]

This is so bad for the league and Goodell.

no its not.

league is fine, goodell is fine

I agree in the end no one cares what a guy who Ko'd his fiancé and a kid beater say. I certainly don't. And people who are wound up at Goodell for not being ready to handle a situation like this like the guy was supposed to have a 50 page policy written in stone for this are fools.

Every one has a plan until they are punched in the face, or in this case fiancee is punched in the face on camera.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Further up I posted an interview with Hardin from the Dan Patrick Show, maybe a couple weeks ago.

Basically Dan asked Hardin why AP had been so silent and Hardin more or less (over the phone) shrugged and he wasn't really sure. They may have been talking press, and a few days later the USA Today interview with AP came out. But then again maybe the context was his failure to respond to the league.

A lot of discussion about AP's team but it's possible that 1. because of the union he doesn't think the punishment is fairly within the CBA, and thus neither was the hearing nor the appeal; and 2. because of himself he doesn't feel like he has to explain or get approval from the commission of/for his child rearing practices.

 

[ragnarok628]

Right. But what the league has wanted is for him to talk to them and show some remorse. He's missed a meeting and (according to the league's opinion) not shown enough remorse. This was yet another opportunity to come forward, answer their questions, and show remorse. What did his team do? Literally mailed it in with a statement. Wrong move (again) IMO.

I mean, that's what they say they want but I highly doubt there was a real path towards reinstatement available if only Peterson had cooperated and successfully navigated whatever hoops the NFL invented on the fly for him to jump through. That circus act would have just gone on and on until enough time had passed that Goodell felt it was safe politically to let the man play again. The reality is that they can apparently do whatever they want; going along with them won't get you playing before they're ready to let you play. Challenging their ability/authority to keep you from playing could do it if you're successful, but everything that has transpired thus far leads to the conclusion that this is probably not a battle than can/will be won. Even so, I disagree that fighting the NFL on this issue was the wrong route to take.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Right. But what the league has wanted is for him to talk to them and show some remorse. He's missed a meeting and (according to the league's opinion) not shown enough remorse. This was yet another opportunity to come forward, answer their questions, and show remorse. What did his team do? Literally mailed it in with a statement. Wrong move (again) IMO.

I mean, that's what they say they want but I highly doubt there was a real path towards reinstatement available if only Peterson had cooperated and successfully navigated whatever hoops the NFL invented on the fly for him to jump through. That circus act would have just gone on and on until enough time had passed that Goodell felt it was safe politically to let the man play again. The reality is that they can apparently do whatever they want; going along with them won't get you playing before they're ready to let you play. Challenging their ability/authority to keep you from playing could do it if you're successful, but everything that has transpired thus far leads to the conclusion that this is probably not a battle than can/will be won. Even so, I disagree that fighting the NFL on this issue was the wrong route to take.

I'm not saying don't fight. I'm saying fight harder. Lay all your cards on the table.

 

[ragnarok628]

Right. But what the league has wanted is for him to talk to them and show some remorse. He's missed a meeting and (according to the league's opinion) not shown enough remorse. This was yet another opportunity to come forward, answer their questions, and show remorse. What did his team do? Literally mailed it in with a statement. Wrong move (again) IMO.

I mean, that's what they say they want but I highly doubt there was a real path towards reinstatement available if only Peterson had cooperated and successfully navigated whatever hoops the NFL invented on the fly for him to jump through. That circus act would have just gone on and on until enough time had passed that Goodell felt it was safe politically to let the man play again. The reality is that they can apparently do whatever they want; going along with them won't get you playing before they're ready to let you play. Challenging their ability/authority to keep you from playing could do it if you're successful, but everything that has transpired thus far leads to the conclusion that this is probably not a battle than can/will be won. Even so, I disagree that fighting the NFL on this issue was the wrong route to take.

I'm not saying don't fight. I'm saying fight harder. Lay all your cards on the table.

Ok i think i get you. You're saying pursue all avenues right? Seems the strategy they went with was to take a purely adversarial position when they could have played along in addition to challenging through the system and through the courts. You're probably right.

 

[rockaction]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11972348/arbiter-encourages-nfl-adrian-peterson-minnesota-vikings-settle

 

[cstu]

My prediction - the outcome of this will be that Peterson will be reinstated after the end of the season without all the rigamarole of proving himself to Goodell.

That way Goodell gets what he wanted and Peterson gets a 'win'.

 

[rockaction]

My prediction - the outcome of this will be that Peterson will be reinstated after the end of the season without all the rigamarole of proving himself to Goodell.

That way Goodell gets what he wanted and Peterson gets a 'win'.

This sounds like what the arbiter is urging if you read between the lines. Coming to a "settlement" implies not immediate reinstatement, but not indefinite suspension, either.

Personally, I hope Vincent's testimony nukes the NFL and Peterson can play Sunday, but really, that outcome seems unlikely to produce a result anybody wants.

eta* I traded for him. This has nothing to do with child-rearing beliefs.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Peter King at SI now saying it looks like AP will win his appeal and be reinstated next week!

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Anything to see here for redraft this year?

 

[Krilons Resa]

Not sure it's even worth it at this point in redraft. Even if he is reinstated, he still may not be acyivated by the Vikings. Also, the week 15/16 games are tough matchups and he hasn't played since week 1. Meh.

 

[ldizzle]

I wouldnt mind in the flex

 

[Isotopes]

I would think if the league reinstates him the Vikings would let him play.

AP with fresh legs and a chip on his shoulder should be immune to any matchup problem.