Adrian Peterson, retired (1 Viewer)

[Shutout]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

1) He's not going to retire.

2) Probably. 6 Pro Bowls, 3 All-Pros, #3 in career rushing yards per game (behind Jim Brown and Barry Sanders). Rate stats above Terrell Davis, career totals well above TD.

Probably?

No way. He has won 6 popularity contests. Big deal. No Super Bowls, no history of playoff achievement, ranks behind guys like Otis Anderson, warric Dunn, and tho as jones in career yards.

There's not enough to put him in the hall anytime soon.

That being said, he's not retiring (although, the pros always say that by the time you start talking about it out loud, you are already checked out mentally and should)

 

[General Tso]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

1) He's not going to retire.

2) Probably. 6 Pro Bowls, 3 All-Pros, #3 in career rushing yards per game (behind Jim Brown and Barry Sanders). Rate stats above Terrell Davis, career totals well above TD.

Probably?

No way. He has won 6 popularity contests. Big deal. No Super Bowls, no history of playoff achievement, ranks behind guys like Otis Anderson, warric Dunn, and tho as jones in career yards. There's not enough to put him in the hall anytime soon.

That being said, he's not retiring (although, the pros always say that by the time you start talking about it out loud, you are already checked out mentally and should)

LOL. If Adrian Peterson isn't a Hall of Famer I don't know who is.

 

[Dizzy]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

Not the 1st ballot. Still have to get VOTED in... and if the last chapter ends with shunned from the league for being a child abuser, good luck getting those votes.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Automatic, instant HOFer.

 

[cstu]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

1) He's not going to retire.

2) Probably. 6 Pro Bowls, 3 All-Pros, #3 in career rushing yards per game (behind Jim Brown and Barry Sanders). Rate stats above Terrell Davis, career totals well above TD.

Probably?

No way. He has won 6 popularity contests. Big deal. No Super Bowls, no history of playoff achievement, ranks behind guys like Otis Anderson, warric Dunn, and tho as jones in career yards.

There's not enough to put him in the hall anytime soon.

That being said, he's not retiring (although, the pros always say that by the time you start talking about it out loud, you are already checked out mentally and should)

2nd highest YPC of an RB with over 10,000 yards and the highest TD/game:

NAME POS YRs G RSH RSHYD YD/RSH RSHTD REC RECYD YD/REC RECTD FANT PT1 Barry Sanders rb 1989--1998 153 3062 15269 4.99 99 352 2921 8.30 10 2473.02 Adrian Peterson rb 2007--2014 104 2056 10199 4.96 86 208 1715 8.25 5 1737.43 Tiki Barber rb 1997--2006 154 2216 10448 4.71 55 586 5183 8.84 12 1965.14 O.J. Simpson rb 1969--1979 135 2404 11236 4.67 61 203 2142 10.55 14 1787.85 Fred Taylor rb 1998--2010 153 2534 11695 4.62 66 290 2384 8.22 8 1851.96 Frank Gore rb 2005--2014 145 2381 10737 4.51 62 340 2878 8.46 11 1799.57 Eric Dickerson rb 1983--1993 146 2996 13259 4.43 90 281 2137 7.60 6 2119.48 Walter Payton rb 1975--1987 190 3838 16726 4.36 110 492 4538 9.22 15 2876.49 Tony Dorsett rb 1977--1988 173 2936 12739 4.34 77 398 3554 8.93 13 2169.310 Marshall Faulk rb 1994--2005 176 2836 12279 4.33 100 767 6875 8.96 36 2731.411 L.Tomlinson rb 2001--2011 170 3174 13684 4.31 145 624 4772 7.65 17 2852.8Or maybe he just won some popularity contests...

 

[Buffaloes]

of course Peterson is a HOF. TD should be too. let's use some common sense here. he's one of the best to ever play his position.

 

[msommer]

If only people would somehow forget why he sat out most of 2014

 

[menobrown]

If only people would somehow forget why he sat out most of 2014

Most people won't care next season, they sure won't care in 5+ years.

I doubt he retires but I love his comments. He went to far disciplining his child and did something which last season would have gotten anywhere from a zero to 4 game suspension, probably closer to zero. Instead he got used as the NFL's pawn for what they would terms as "wanting to do the right thing and send a clear message" but anyone with a brain knows he was a victim of the leagues incompetent handling of the Ray Rice situation. He got tricked into going on the exempt list by both the NFL and Vikings who have been working hand in hand to keep him off the field this season. He got suspended the final 6 games, will lose over $4 million in pay, lost endorsement money, got his reinstatement date set way after FA starts so that most teams will have plowed through their money and addressed RB, got publicly lectured by Roger G and then had to go through a sham of an appeal process that finally resulted in an NFL crony issuing almost the same exact public statement(s) that Roger G said when he publicly admonished him. And if all that was not enough they want him to beg his way back into the NFL and jump through their hoops so he can come back where he would face dried up market due to age, timing and teams using his PR issue against them to leverage him into a below market deal.

Not sure how after all of that he could not consider walking away if he's got enough money. Hopefully he wins his federal lawsuit so at least he does not have to beg his way in the league and can hit FA earlier than April 15th.

Times like these make me miss Al Davis. He would not have have been afraid to be that one owner to speak up about this, he would not have been afraid to sign a guy like Ray Rice or Adrian Peterson if he though they would help his team win. If he was alive the Raiders would have been that one team that would have provided hope to those players crushed by the social media lynch mob and deemed toxic. That's good for the game no matter how you slice it to have that option, but now the NFL is just made up of a bunch of owners more concerned with keeping the cash flowing.

The popular retort to what I just wrote is well he should not have beaten his kid. Good for all your moral high grounders who feel that way and may I say I hope you enjoy your new NFL with your stars not playing, with policies and over the top punishments that are starting to mirror the the same overcriminalization seen in everyday American life, the everyday life most of use used to like to watch football to help forget about.

 

[seahawk 17]

If only people would somehow forget why he sat out most of 2014

He has shown zero actual remorse. I hope he's done.

 

[fatness]

He's retiring, huh? Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure he is.

He just wants to go to Dallas.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Audio just came out from ABC/GMA on Mike and Mike.

Not good for the league. Goodell has got to go, he can not control his house. D Smith was on MnM and they are filing suit in Federal Court today.

D Smith said the league should be embarrassed and cant say I disagree.

 

[Jerry Curl]

If only people would somehow forget why he sat out most of 2014

He has shown zero actual remorse. I hope he's done.

Who are you to say he has or hasnt shown remorse? Didnt know Peterson had to show remorse to you.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Audio just came out from ABC/GMA on Mike and Mike.

Not good for the league. Goodell has got to go, he can not control his house. D Smith was on MnM and they are filing suit in Federal Court today.

D Smith said the league should be embarrassed and cant say I disagree.

If they sue I'm thinking AP wins. The threat or actual appearance of Goodell on the stand before a truly independent judge has resulted in withdrawal of suspensions (bountygate) and outright reversal of suspension (Rice). Goodell is 0-2, he is about to go 0-3.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

ABC News has obtained audio of a call between Peterson and NFL executive vice-president of operations Troy Vincent, recorded Nov. 12, in which Vincent seemed to promise a two-game suspension. Instead, Peterson was suspended indefinitely.

"Two additional games, not time served?" Peterson asks on the recording.

"No, no, no," Vincent replies. "It's just the one this weekend. So really, it's just next week and you ... you're rolling. You're back."

"So, two games?" Peterson asks at another point.

"Yeah," Vincent replies, "but you cannot ... you've got to go through the process."

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report--nfl-initially-promised-adrian-peterson-a-two-game-suspension-142635852.html

 

[Jerry Curl]

I have been firm saying this case is the end of Goodell. Goodell is not bigger then the shield either, he can not be trusted by the union. If the union had balls they would strike. Cant wait for the people to say "They aint striking because of Peterson." Those people clearly do not realize as D Smith has said this is bigger then Peterson. No player is safe even if they have indisputable proof of things that would be in their favor. Removal of Goodell is the main objective of the Union at this point.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

“So remember this, A.P., you’re not, today, you are not subject to the, to the new Personal Conduct Policy,” Vincent told Peterson during a telephone conversation, according to the transcript of the hearing.

The incident, in which Peterson struck his 4-year-old with a tree branch called a switch, occurred in October of last year. The NFL’s new Domestic Violence Policy, which carries stricter punishments, was announced in August.

Jeffrey Kessler, an attorney for Peterson, asked Vincent: “My question is you were telling him he was not subject to the new Personal Conduct Policy; is that right?”

Vincent responded yes. Asked how he knew, Vincent said, “I was just taking that based off when his crime was committed.”

Said Kessler: “Your understanding as the Executive Vice President of the National Football League, in your position, was that the new Personal Conduct Policy would only apply going forward, correct, not the past behavior?”

“Correct,” Vincent testified before arbitrator Harold Henderson, who spent 16 years at the NFL overseeing player and labor relations.

“And that is what you were conveying to Adrian?” asked Kessler.

“Yes,” Vincent said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-08/nfl-s-vincent-told-peterson-old-conduct-policy-would-guide-ban.html

 

[CalBear]

I have been firm saying this case is the end of Goodell. Goodell is not bigger then the shield either, he can not be trusted by the union. If the union had balls they would strike. Cant wait for the people to say "They aint striking because of Peterson." Those people clearly do not realize as D Smith has said this is bigger then Peterson. No player is safe even if they have indisputable proof of things that would be in their favor. Removal of Goodell is the main objective of the Union at this point.

The union can't strike over this (or anything else) until the CBA runs out.

Article 3: NO STRIKE/LOCKOUT /SUIT
Section 1. No Strike/Lockout: Except as otherwise provided in Article 47 (Union
Security), Section 6, neither the NFLPA nor any of its members will engage in any strike,
work stoppage, or other concerted action interfering with the operations of the NFL or
any Club for the duration of this Agreement, and no Clubs, either individually or in
concert with other Clubs, will engage in any lockout for the duration of this Agreement.
Any claim that a party has violated this Section 1 will not be subject to the grievance
procedure or the arbitration provisions of this Agreement and the party will have the
right to submit such claim directly to the courts.

 

[mbuehner]

ABC News has obtained audio of a call between Peterson and NFL executive vice-president of operations Troy Vincent, recorded Nov. 12, in which Vincent seemed to promise a two-game suspension. Instead, Peterson was suspended indefinitely.

"Two additional games, not time served?" Peterson asks on the recording.

"No, no, no," Vincent replies. "It's just the one this weekend. So really, it's just next week and you ... you're rolling. You're back."

"So, two games?" Peterson asks at another point.

"Yeah," Vincent replies, "but you cannot ... you've got to go through the process."

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report--nfl-initially-promised-adrian-peterson-a-two-game-suspension-142635852.html

"But you've got to go through the process."

Peterson refused to meet with the NFL ('the process'). Seems to me Vincent didn't break his word, Peterson did.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I have been firm saying this case is the end of Goodell. Goodell is not bigger then the shield either, he can not be trusted by the union. If the union had balls they would strike. Cant wait for the people to say "They aint striking because of Peterson." Those people clearly do not realize as D Smith has said this is bigger then Peterson. No player is safe even if they have indisputable proof of things that would be in their favor. Removal of Goodell is the main objective of the Union at this point.

The union can't strike over this (or anything else) until the CBA runs out.

Article 3: NO STRIKE/LOCKOUT /SUIT
Section 1. No Strike/Lockout: Except as otherwise provided in Article 47 (Union
Security), Section 6, neither the NFLPA nor any of its members will engage in any strike,
work stoppage, or other concerted action interfering with the operations of the NFL or
any Club for the duration of this Agreement, and no Clubs, either individually or in
concert with other Clubs, will engage in any lockout for the duration of this Agreement.
Any claim that a party has violated this Section 1 will not be subject to the grievance
procedure or the arbitration provisions of this Agreement and the party will have the
right to submit such claim directly to the courts.

it seems the Commish and company aren't following the CBA to its T while outright lying to the players, media and fans... why should the NFLPA follow the CBA? Besides, if the all or majority of players not show up (especially the ones with star power) what is the NFL going to do? Fire them all and arrest them?

 

[CalBear]

it seems the Commish and company aren't following the CBA to its T while outright lying to the players, media and fans... why should the NFLPA follow the CBA? Besides, if the all or majority of players not show up (especially the ones with star power) what is the NFL going to do? Fire them all and arrest them?

The union would have to get the CBA invalidated to go on strike. They don't have any leverage to do that. If they go on strike illegally, the NFL can appeal to the NLRB to fire them all (invalidate all player contracts), and get the union disbanded. A strike will not happen over player discipline issues.

 

[mbuehner]

Also- the union is going to find a better poster boy than AP or Ray Rice before they even think of such a thing. I get the principle- but the media isnt going to portray it that way and like it or not, its going to look like the NFL is striking for a child beater and a wife beater. Optics matter, and the NFLPA has lawyers and experts that know that. In a strike, public support is crucial, and they aren't going to have it without something better to rally around.

 

[Jerry Curl]

it seems the Commish and company aren't following the CBA to its T while outright lying to the players, media and fans... why should the NFLPA follow the CBA? Besides, if the all or majority of players not show up (especially the ones with star power) what is the NFL going to do? Fire them all and arrest them?

The union would have to get the CBA invalidated to go on strike. They don't have any leverage to do that. If they go on strike illegally, the NFL can appeal to the NLRB to fire them all (invalidate all player contracts), and get the union disbanded. A strike will not happen over player discipline issues.

They dont have leverage with audio proving that the NFL are liars? They can say the NFL is not living up to its end and strike. Amazing after the NFL disregards the CBA that you think the players and the union have to honor it. Naive much?

If the NFL breaches the CBA, the union has every right to to defends its standing.

 

[mbuehner]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

Of course not. At least not for a long time.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Also- the union is going to find a better poster boy than AP or Ray Rice before they even think of such a thing. I get the principle- but the media isnt going to portray it that way and like it or not, its going to look like the NFL is striking for a child beater and a wife beater. Optics matter, and the NFLPA has lawyers and experts that know that. In a strike, public support is crucial, and they aren't going to have it without something better to rally around.

It will look like that to simple minded people who do not understand what is going on, and those people dont matter.

 

[mbuehner]

Also- the union is going to find a better poster boy than AP or Ray Rice before they even think of such a thing. I get the principle- but the media isnt going to portray it that way and like it or not, its going to look like the NFL is striking for a child beater and a wife beater. Optics matter, and the NFLPA has lawyers and experts that know that. In a strike, public support is crucial, and they aren't going to have it without something better to rally around.

It will look like that to simple minded people who do not understand what is going on, and those people dont matter.

Those people are all that matter, because they are most of the country.

 

[Jerry Curl]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

Of course not. At least not for a long time.

Your hate for this dude is funny. He abused his kids according to some and now he isnt a great football player?

 

[mbuehner]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

Of course not. At least not for a long time.

Your hate for this dude is funny. He abused his kids according to some and now he isnt a great football player?

I dont hate AP at all. Im talking about realities, not man love. Look into it.

 

[Jerry Curl]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

Of course not. At least not for a long time.

Your hate for this dude is funny. He abused his kids according to some and now he isnt a great football player?

I dont hate AP at all. Im talking about realities, not man love. Look into it.

Your opinion doesnt make it a reality. Sorry.

 

[mbuehner]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

Of course not. At least not for a long time.

Your hate for this dude is funny. He abused his kids according to some and now he isnt a great football player?

I dont hate AP at all. Im talking about realities, not man love. Look into it.

Your opinion doesnt make it a reality. Sorry.

Nor does your man crush. The NFL is not going on strike for AP. Nobody but you is suggesting thats even a remote possibility.

 

[Jerry Curl]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

Of course not. At least not for a long time.

Your hate for this dude is funny. He abused his kids according to some and now he isnt a great football player?

I dont hate AP at all. Im talking about realities, not man love. Look into it.

Your opinion doesnt make it a reality. Sorry.

Nor does your man crush. The NFL is not going on strike for AP. Nobody but you is suggesting thats even a remote possibility.

Remember when I posted earlier about the clueless people saying a strike would be about AP and not the bigger picture?

I have been firm saying this case is the end of Goodell. Goodell is not bigger then the shield either, he can not be trusted by the union. If the union had balls they would strike. Cant wait for the people to say "They aint striking because of Peterson." Those people clearly do not realize as D Smith has said this is bigger then Peterson. No player is safe even if they have indisputable proof of things that would be in their favor. Removal of Goodell is the main objective of the Union at this point.

Thanks for proving my point. Also making a point doesnt mean a person has a "man crush." You like to bring up man love a lot, weird.

 

[CalBear]

it seems the Commish and company aren't following the CBA to its T while outright lying to the players, media and fans... why should the NFLPA follow the CBA? Besides, if the all or majority of players not show up (especially the ones with star power) what is the NFL going to do? Fire them all and arrest them?

The union would have to get the CBA invalidated to go on strike. They don't have any leverage to do that. If they go on strike illegally, the NFL can appeal to the NLRB to fire them all (invalidate all player contracts), and get the union disbanded. A strike will not happen over player discipline issues.

They dont have leverage with audio proving that the NFL are liars? They can say the NFL is not living up to its end and strike. Amazing after the NFL disregards the CBA that you think the players and the union have to honor it. Naive much?

If the NFL breaches the CBA, the union has every right to to defends its standing.

If the union wants to assert that the NFL took an action that violates the CBA, the union has every right to arbitration, which is exactly what happened in this case. The arbitrator has ruled on the case, and the union no longer has any redress. If they could convince the NLRB that the NFL somehow paid off the (mutually-selected by CBA) arbitrator, they'd have a case. "We don't like the outcome" isn't a case.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

If the NFL breaches the CBA, the union has every right to to defends its standing.

Did the NFL breach the CBA?

 

[mbuehner]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

Of course not. At least not for a long time.

Your hate for this dude is funny. He abused his kids according to some and now he isnt a great football player?

I dont hate AP at all. Im talking about realities, not man love. Look into it.

Your opinion doesnt make it a reality. Sorry.

Nor does your man crush. The NFL is not going on strike for AP. Nobody but you is suggesting thats even a remote possibility.

Remember when I posted earlier about the clueless people saying a strike would be about AP and not the bigger picture?

I have been firm saying this case is the end of Goodell. Goodell is not bigger then the shield either, he can not be trusted by the union. If the union had balls they would strike. Cant wait for the people to say "They aint striking because of Peterson." Those people clearly do not realize as D Smith has said this is bigger then Peterson. No player is safe even if they have indisputable proof of things that would be in their favor. Removal of Goodell is the main objective of the Union at this point.

Thanks for proving my point. Also making a point doesnt mean a person has a "man crush." You like to bring up man love a lot, weird.

Let me get this straight- NFLPA saying 'this is bigger then Peterson' (which is true) means the NFL is willing to strike? Thats your evidence. Ok guy. Maybe theyre willing to burn down NFL HQ and take some hostages too. I mean, Smith said this is bigger than Peterson, so anything is on the table right?

 

[Jerry Curl]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

Of course not. At least not for a long time.

Your hate for this dude is funny. He abused his kids according to some and now he isnt a great football player?

I dont hate AP at all. Im talking about realities, not man love. Look into it.

Your opinion doesnt make it a reality. Sorry.

Nor does your man crush. The NFL is not going on strike for AP. Nobody but you is suggesting thats even a remote possibility.

Remember when I posted earlier about the clueless people saying a strike would be about AP and not the bigger picture?

I have been firm saying this case is the end of Goodell. Goodell is not bigger then the shield either, he can not be trusted by the union. If the union had balls they would strike. Cant wait for the people to say "They aint striking because of Peterson." Those people clearly do not realize as D Smith has said this is bigger then Peterson. No player is safe even if they have indisputable proof of things that would be in their favor. Removal of Goodell is the main objective of the Union at this point.

Thanks for proving my point. Also making a point doesnt mean a person has a "man crush." You like to bring up man love a lot, weird.

Let me get this straight- NFLPA saying 'this is bigger then Peterson' (which is true) means the NFL is willing to strike? Thats your evidence. Ok guy. Maybe theyre willing to burn down NFL HQ and take some hostages too. I mean, Smith said this is bigger than Peterson, so anything is on the table right?

I said if they had balls the would, its right there in the quotes. That did not mean they will or wont. It is an opinion of mine that angered you so much for some reason. You have this sense that your opinion should be taken as fact and everyone else cant have an opinion at all and just need to listen to you. If stuff on the internet gets you that worked up, I hope your days get better.

 

[Jerry Curl]

it seems the Commish and company aren't following the CBA to its T while outright lying to the players, media and fans... why should the NFLPA follow the CBA? Besides, if the all or majority of players not show up (especially the ones with star power) what is the NFL going to do? Fire them all and arrest them?

The union would have to get the CBA invalidated to go on strike. They don't have any leverage to do that. If they go on strike illegally, the NFL can appeal to the NLRB to fire them all (invalidate all player contracts), and get the union disbanded. A strike will not happen over player discipline issues.

They dont have leverage with audio proving that the NFL are liars? They can say the NFL is not living up to its end and strike. Amazing after the NFL disregards the CBA that you think the players and the union have to honor it. Naive much?

If the NFL breaches the CBA, the union has every right to to defends its standing.

If the union wants to assert that the NFL took an action that violates the CBA, the union has every right to arbitration, which is exactly what happened in this case. The arbitrator has ruled on the case, and the union no longer has any redress. If they could convince the NLRB that the NFL somehow paid off the (mutually-selected by CBA) arbitrator, they'd have a case. "We don't like the outcome" isn't a case.

The arbitrator works for the NFL, so yeah, they paid him off.

 

[CalBear]

it seems the Commish and company aren't following the CBA to its T while outright lying to the players, media and fans... why should the NFLPA follow the CBA? Besides, if the all or majority of players not show up (especially the ones with star power) what is the NFL going to do? Fire them all and arrest them?

The union would have to get the CBA invalidated to go on strike. They don't have any leverage to do that. If they go on strike illegally, the NFL can appeal to the NLRB to fire them all (invalidate all player contracts), and get the union disbanded. A strike will not happen over player discipline issues.

They dont have leverage with audio proving that the NFL are liars? They can say the NFL is not living up to its end and strike. Amazing after the NFL disregards the CBA that you think the players and the union have to honor it. Naive much?

If the NFL breaches the CBA, the union has every right to to defends its standing.

If the union wants to assert that the NFL took an action that violates the CBA, the union has every right to arbitration, which is exactly what happened in this case. The arbitrator has ruled on the case, and the union no longer has any redress. If they could convince the NLRB that the NFL somehow paid off the (mutually-selected by CBA) arbitrator, they'd have a case. "We don't like the outcome" isn't a case.

The arbitrator works for the NFL, so yeah, they paid him off.

The arbitrator is jointly appointed by the NFL and the union as part of the CBA. The union agrees to abide by the decisions of the arbitrator as part of the CBA. "Paid" isn't the same as "paid off"; they'd have to be able to bring a specific complaint of malfeasance by the arbitrator to get any legal traction. They've presented no evidence of any such malfeasance.

 

[cstu]

How much is Adrian loving Deflategate?

 

[cvnpoka]

@GoesslingESPN: Talked with Adrian Peterson for about an hour on the phone tonight. He said he's seriously considered retirement during his suspension.

If Peterson retired today, HOFer? Yes/no?

1) He's not going to retire.

2) Probably. 6 Pro Bowls, 3 All-Pros, #3 in career rushing yards per game (behind Jim Brown and Barry Sanders). Rate stats above Terrell Davis, career totals well above TD.

Probably?

ya, lol probably. only way theres a question is if this child abuse thing haunts him which i kinda doubt happens considering how many nfl scumbags are revered.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Tom Pelissero ✔ @TomPelissero Follow

#Vikings GM Rick Spielman more definitive than in past today: "We expect Adrian Peterson to be a part of our football team."

7:47 AM - 18 Feb 2015

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

They want him back ... but does he want them back?

From NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000472362/article/adrian-peterson-uneasy-about-returning-to-vikings

Peterson -- who has yet to be reinstated by the league, and is involved in a suit filed by the NFLPA on his behalf -- elaborated on the disdain felt for Minnesota at his lowest point as a professional.


"This came from the state I love so much, that I wish to bring a championship to?" Peterson said. "This is how they treat me when I'm down and out?

"You kick me? My wife (and I), we've had several conversations about me returning to Minnesota, what the best options are. If I left it up to her, I'd be somewhere else today, and that's with her weighing everything. It's a lot for me to weigh; she understands that. But there are some things that I'm still uneasy about."

Minnesota would very much rather have Peterson in its starting backfield than Matt Asiata or Jerick McKinnon. With the running back under contract for 2015 with a base salary of $12.75 million, the Vikings would have to either trade or release Peterson, if a breakup is what he desires.

The Vikings have tried to mend fences, with Spielman and Zimmer reaching out to Peterson to no avail, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday, per people who have spoken to Peterson. The back wants a fresh start and his lack of trust in the Vikings is a major issue, with a divorce increasingly a possibility, Rapoport added.

Seriously, everyone ... last, best chance to grab McKinnon at his lowest value ever.

 

[cstu]

I said last year when this was happening that there was no way he would play again for the Vikings after the way they treated him.

 

[msommer]

If he's under contract then what does he do? Sit out the first 10 weeks?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Please go to NE, please go to NE, please go to NE

 

[grateful zed]

Please go to NE, please go to NE, please go to NE

he doesnt fit their scheme, and bb wouldnt know how to utilize him properly.

 

[Hankmoody]

If he's under contract then what does he do? Sit out the first 10 weeks?

Week 10 isn't relevant for holdouts any more, and guys on 2nd contract don't really care about the accrued season anyway. He doesn't have any kind of leverage so he may as well show up, prove he's in shape and cooperative, help establish the highest trade value he can for the Vikings, and hope they go along with it.

 

[Road Warriors]

Please go to NE, please go to NE, please go to NE

he doesnt fit their scheme, and bb wouldnt know how to utilize him properly.

Yeah, if there's one thing Belichick really struggles with is figuring out how to use a player's skill set. He just can't adjust his set in stone scheme to new personnel.

 

[Heatman]

I said last year when this was happening that there was no way he would play again for the Vikings after the way they treated him.

This is a joke right? The way THEY treated HIM? They did what they had to do. They tried to stand by him but the court of public opinion led to sponsors leaving in droves so they did what they had to do or let the team be crushed financially. He is the one who made the mistake and as of yet has refused to take any responsibility for it.

 

[menobrown]

I said last year when this was happening that there was no way he would play again for the Vikings after the way they treated him.

This is a joke right? The way THEY treated HIM? They did what they had to do. They tried to stand by him but the court of public opinion led to sponsors leaving in droves so they did what they had to do or let the team be crushed financially. He is the one who made the mistake and as of yet has refused to take any responsibility for it.

They tried to stand by him? Really. For that day and a half until they realized it was not a popular side to support? That to me is a joke.

I think even Peterson realized they they needed him to go away until his court case was resolved-that his situation was to toxic at the time. I think he could have gotten over being duped into being put on the commissioners exempt list. But by the time his case was resolved the public furor had died down considerably. Still the Vikings still sat idly by, never offering him any public support on a level higher up than the coaching ranks. When he got suspended for the season and later lost his appeal they never tried to stand by him as you say, instead simply issuing statements saying they supported the NFL's decision.

I'm not even convinced the Vikings really want him back. But by publicly supporting him after the fact they get to shift the blame on Peterson when this relationship breaks up. They want their fans to think in the end the relationship ended because Peterson wanted out, not them. And oh, if it helps generate a trade market for him instead of other teams just sitting back thinking they can pluck him up in FA that's not so bad either.

 

[Pots]

I said last year when this was happening that there was no way he would play again for the Vikings after the way they treated him.

This is a joke right? The way THEY treated HIM? They did what they had to do. They tried to stand by him but the court of public opinion led to sponsors leaving in droves so they did what they had to do or let the team be crushed financially. He is the one who made the mistake and as of yet has refused to take any responsibility for it.

They tried to stand by him? Really. For that day and a half until they realized it was not a popular side to support? That to me is a joke.

I think even Peterson realized they they needed him to go away until his court case was resolved-that his situation was to toxic at the time. I think he could have gotten over being duped into being put on the commissioners exempt list. But by the time his case was resolved the public furor had died down considerably. Still the Vikings still sat idly by, never offering him any public support on a level higher up than the coaching ranks. When he got suspended for the season and later lost his appeal they never tried to stand by him as you say, instead simply issuing statements saying they supported the NFL's decision.

I'm not even convinced the Vikings really want him back. But by publicly supporting him after the fact they get to shift the blame on Peterson when this relationship breaks up. They want their fans to think in the end the relationship ended because Peterson wanted out, not them. And oh, if it helps generate a trade market for him instead of other teams just sitting back thinking they can pluck him up in FA that's not so bad either.

 

[Heatman]

I said last year when this was happening that there was no way he would play again for the Vikings after the way they treated him.

This is a joke right? The way THEY treated HIM? They did what they had to do. They tried to stand by him but the court of public opinion led to sponsors leaving in droves so they did what they had to do or let the team be crushed financially. He is the one who made the mistake and as of yet has refused to take any responsibility for it.

They tried to stand by him? Really. For that day and a half until they realized it was not a popular side to support? That to me is a joke.

I think even Peterson realized they they needed him to go away until his court case was resolved-that his situation was to toxic at the time. I think he could have gotten over being duped into being put on the commissioners exempt list. But by the time his case was resolved the public furor had died down considerably. Still the Vikings still sat idly by, never offering him any public support on a level higher up than the coaching ranks. When he got suspended for the season and later lost his appeal they never tried to stand by him as you say, instead simply issuing statements saying they supported the NFL's decision.

I'm not even convinced the Vikings really want him back. But by publicly supporting him after the fact they get to shift the blame on Peterson when this relationship breaks up. They want their fans to think in the end the relationship ended because Peterson wanted out, not them. And oh, if it helps generate a trade market for him instead of other teams just sitting back thinking they can pluck him up in FA that's not so bad either.

Duped into the commissioners exemption list? lol You don't think he knew what it meant to be on that list? He and his agent knew what was going on at the time and they both knew it was going to happen and why.

So then tell me what would you have done if you were the owner of a billion dollar business? No if you were the owner of the Vikings. You have Peterson and everything he has done for the team. You want to support him but the court of public opinion is crushing your franchise and your sponsors are backing out on you. Also the NFL is on you not only because of this situation but because the Ray Rice and Greg Hardy situations are also going on and things are not looking good for the NFL or your team reputation wise? You stand to lose a TON by keeping him on the field not only financially but your reputation is on the line as well. The Vikings like many other teams have had a lot of bad publicity in the past and it's not easy to get that back.

If it's me I have my coaches continue to let people know we think he needs to be with the team. I keep my upper management and myself quiet other than supporting the NFLs disciplinary decisions to keep my sponsors. Why? Because if I don't do this my team gets destroyed by the media and the public and I spend the next decade or more trying to get past this instead of a year or two.

Now I have been on Petersons side this whole time. I think it was a mistake and in no way do I think he will continue to discipline his children that way. I've always wanted him back and I pretty much still do. For a while I thought he should restructure but even that is not necessary to me. What I do want to see is him take some responsibility though. From what I have seen he has not done that. He has done what is required by the NFL for reinstatement but nothing beyond that. I would love to see him come back and retire as a Viking but even Adrian Peterson needs to understand that what he did was very bad and he needs to take responsibility for that instead of trying to play the victim.

Edited to add: I don't think the NFL or the Vikings are perfect in any way and a lot of this was trying to save face for both. But I do think in this case given all the circumstances the team did what they had to do. As far as the NFL, the sooner the Goodell era ends the better.