Adrian Peterson Status Updates (3 Viewers)

[cstu]

One other thought here - the NFL wants to distinguish what happened to Rice. The NFL story was that he was dishonest and the NFL did not know the whole story and that was why they lowered the boom the second time. The straight up penalty was 2 games, then expanded to 6 based on policy (which would apply to AP), but then made indefinite on the basis that Rice had deceived. No such issue exists here. The NFL will maintain its line here, which Rog just got through personally testifying to a judge about.

The difficulty here is the time already sat out (8 games already) vs some monetary penalty (none so far). A settlement will have to be reached, that's where Hardin an A-Plus national attorney comes in, that's his (and any attorney's) bread and butter.

Hardin is already making the case that this plea shouldn't fall under the NFL's domestic abuse policy. He pleaded to no contest to misdemeanor reckless assault while trying to discipline his son as he believed a good father should.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Not sure if this SI article has been mentioned, but it gets into whether the domestic violence policy actually applies and I think it's pretty well stated. Also the conclusion that it is yet another factor pushing Rog towards settlement via "time served" makes sense:

Peterson pleading no contest in a case involving discipline of his son would at first glance raise the possibility that Goodell could punish Peterson under the NFL’s new domestic violence policy. The policy, which Goodell announced in a memo to NFL owners back in August, calls for a six-game suspension for a first-time offense.

In law, the phrase “domestic violence” is sometimes defined broadly to include physical or emotional abuse committed by a family member against any family member, including a child. This expansive definition of “domestic violence” would include Peterson disciplining his son. Other legal characterizations of domestic violence are more narrowly limited to acts of violence against an intimate partner, but not against children.

Goodell is unlikely to impose the domestic violence policy to Peterson’s situation. The policy, as worded by Goodell, does not appear inclusive of violent acts against children and instead seems limited to acts against intimate partners. In his memo, Goodell detailed the circumstances of applying the policy to “a prior incident before joining the NFL, or violence involving a weapon, choking, repeated striking, or when the act is committed against a pregnant woman or in the presence of a child.” Goodell’s only reference to a “child” is a child being near a violent act by an NFL player, presumably against a spouse or partner.

If Goodell nonetheless cites the domestic violence policy to punish Peterson, Peterson and the NFLPA might seek a grievance proceeding against the league and Goodell. They would argue that Goodell has misinterpreted his own policy. Then again, if Goodell adopts the “time served” approach to a suspension as discussed above, it is possible there would be no such fight.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/11/04/adrian-peterson-plea-nfl-roger-goodell-suspension-domestic-violence-policy

 

[chinawildman]

Also, it's highly unlikely that Peterson would have made the plea deal if he didn't already have some kind of agreement in place with Goodell. (Otherwise, he would have just waited until the offseason.)

This. The league, the Vikings, Peterson, Hardin, and the NFLPA all coordinated on the decision to place him on the exemption list. Foolish to think that all these parties were not involved in Hardin's decision to go for the plea, especially given his chances for an outright acquittal considering the trial judge and DA aren't exactly on the best of terms.

People like to have faces to attribute blame/responsibility to... Roger Goddell this... Adrian Peterson that.... this is our celebrity culture. Rest assured, their hands are forced by the legal mumbo jumbo attached to the CBA, things most of us do not know or understand. Sure we can keep making predictions about what's going to happen, but none of us will actually know why.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Minnesota Vikings RB Adrian Peterson still has many steps ahead of him before NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates him after he reached a plea deal in his child abuse case, according to a league source.

First, the NFL will examine the court documents and police reports of the case.

The NFL will convene experts on domestic violence and domestic abuse.

Next, the NFL will hold a hearing with Peterson and the NFLPA.

It is possible there will be a direct meeting with Goodell and Peterson, unless Goodell appoints another hearing officer

. Next, the NFL will consult with the Vikings and the union.

Finally, the NFL will apply the personal conduct policy.

There is no hurry, but there is also no delay in starting this process, according to a league source.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Minnesota Vikings RB Adrian Peterson still has many steps ahead of him before NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates him after he reached a plea deal in his child abuse case, according to a league source.

First, the NFL will examine the court documents and police reports of the case.

The NFL will convene experts on domestic violence and domestic abuse.

Next, the NFL will hold a hearing with Peterson and the NFLPA.

It is possible there will be a direct meeting with Goodell and Peterson, unless Goodell appoints another hearing officer

. Next, the NFL will consult with the Vikings and the union.

Finally, the NFL will apply the personal conduct policy.

There is no hurry, but there is also no delay in starting this process, according to a league source.

The Minnesota Vikings and Peterson (and his attorneys (And this fantasy owner)) would disagree.

 

[whiskey7]

73% of Minnesotans want Peterson reinstated right away - http://www.startribune.com/polls/281481771.html?mr=1&oid=1&vote=Vote&pid=281481771&vote.x=20&cid=8500397&vote.y=9

90% of Minnesotans are morons, though.

 

[cstu]

Minnesota Vikings RB Adrian Peterson still has many steps ahead of him before NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates him after he reached a plea deal in his child abuse case, according to a league source.

First, the NFL will examine the court documents and police reports of the case.

The NFL will convene experts on domestic violence and domestic abuse.

Next, the NFL will hold a hearing with Peterson and the NFLPA.

It is possible there will be a direct meeting with Goodell and Peterson, unless Goodell appoints another hearing officer

. Next, the NFL will consult with the Vikings and the union.

Finally, the NFL will apply the personal conduct policy.

There is no hurry, but there is also no delay in starting this process, according to a league source.

This could all happen by early next week.

 

[mbuehner]

Minnesota Vikings RB Adrian Peterson still has many steps ahead of him before NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates him after he reached a plea deal in his child abuse case, according to a league source.

First, the NFL will examine the court documents and police reports of the case.

The NFL will convene experts on domestic violence and domestic abuse.

Next, the NFL will hold a hearing with Peterson and the NFLPA.

It is possible there will be a direct meeting with Goodell and Peterson, unless Goodell appoints another hearing officer

. Next, the NFL will consult with the Vikings and the union.

Finally, the NFL will apply the personal conduct policy.

There is no hurry, but there is also no delay in starting this process, according to a league source.

This could all happen by early next week.

Yup. A delay presumes the process actually involves deliberation, as opposed to the NFL knowing the outcome they have decided on, and then dealing with the niceties of the rules.

 

[White Lightning]

Minnesota Vikings RB Adrian Peterson still has many steps ahead of him before NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates him after he reached a plea deal in his child abuse case, according to a league source.

First, the NFL will examine the court documents and police reports of the case.

The NFL will convene experts on domestic violence and domestic abuse.

Next, the NFL will hold a hearing with Peterson and the NFLPA.

It is possible there will be a direct meeting with Goodell and Peterson, unless Goodell appoints another hearing officer

. Next, the NFL will consult with the Vikings and the union.

Finally, the NFL will apply the personal conduct policy.

There is no hurry, but there is also no delay in starting this process, according to a league source.

This could all happen by early next week.

I agree that this process could START next week. But I would anticipate that the all the steps laid out by the NFL rep would take at least 3 weeks and probably longer.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Minnesota Vikings RB Adrian Peterson still has many steps ahead of him before NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates him after he reached a plea deal in his child abuse case, according to a league source.

First, the NFL will examine the court documents and police reports of the case.

The NFL will convene experts on domestic violence and domestic abuse.

Next, the NFL will hold a hearing with Peterson and the NFLPA.

It is possible there will be a direct meeting with Goodell and Peterson, unless Goodell appoints another hearing officer

. Next, the NFL will consult with the Vikings and the union.

Finally, the NFL will apply the personal conduct policy.

There is no hurry, but there is also no delay in starting this process, according to a league source.

This could all happen by early next week.

I agree that this process could START next week. But I would anticipate that the all the steps laid out by the NFL rep would take at least 3 weeks and probably longer.

we really dont know this is all up to Roger, who knows what that due does

 

[Young 8]

Right, parents should be incentivated on hitting their children with a stick........

Take it to the Child Rea thread, please.

I don't have to go on another thread, I can get all the answer I need right here......

Right, parents should be incentivated on hitting their children with a stick........

Take it to the Child Rea thread, please.

Yes, please share your thoughts about how outraged you are there.

The wave of responses on this guy is hilarious. If this was some 3rd string guy fresh off the practice squad, most of you would be fine with letting him sit or get kicked out of the league. But we can loosen the rules as it applies to stud RB's. Nice message to send to society.

Then take that to the American Society discussion boards, this is a Peterson status update thread.

The wave of responses on this guy is hilarious. If this was some 3rd string guy fresh off the practice squad, most of you would be fine with letting him sit or get kicked out of the league. But we can loosen the rules as it applies to stud RB's. Nice message to send to society.

Please take your moral cry baby whine to the other Peterson thread.

 

[I Am the Stig]

He is not getting his season under his belt and is forcefully not allowed to play the game. You are right, that sounds nothing like a suspension, technically.

I don't think that his inactive status should be taken into account when debating if Peterson is "suspended". After all, there are hundreds of players every week who are "forcefully not allowed to play the game", yet none of them are considered to be suspended.

Really? Roster decisions are the same? Was AP allowed around the team and participate in practices?

 

[General Tso]

Minnesota Vikings RB Adrian Peterson still has many steps ahead of him before NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates him after he reached a plea deal in his child abuse case, according to a league source.

First, the NFL will examine the court documents and police reports of the case.

The NFL will convene experts on domestic violence and domestic abuse.

Next, the NFL will hold a hearing with Peterson and the NFLPA.

It is possible there will be a direct meeting with Goodell and Peterson, unless Goodell appoints another hearing officer

. Next, the NFL will consult with the Vikings and the union.

Finally, the NFL will apply the personal conduct policy.

There is no hurry, but there is also no delay in starting this process, according to a league source.

This could all happen by early next week.

I agree that this process could START next week. But I would anticipate that the all the steps laid out by the NFL rep would take at least 3 weeks and probably longer.

3 weeks? What, do you work for the government or something?

 

[Isotopes]

The Werder article also states that the panel of experts to be convened will also include substance abuse experts, as his admission to smoking marijuana could place him in stage 1 of the NFL drug program.

I also think if they are truly to put together a panel of experts to meet on this issue, it is going to take more than a week.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Minnesota Vikings RB Adrian Peterson still has many steps ahead of him before NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates him after he reached a plea deal in his child abuse case, according to a league source.

First, the NFL will examine the court documents and police reports of the case.

The NFL will convene experts on domestic violence and domestic abuse.

Next, the NFL will hold a hearing with Peterson and the NFLPA.

It is possible there will be a direct meeting with Goodell and Peterson, unless Goodell appoints another hearing officer

. Next, the NFL will consult with the Vikings and the union.

Finally, the NFL will apply the personal conduct policy.

There is no hurry, but there is also no delay in starting this process, according to a league source.

This could all happen by early next week.

I agree that this process could START next week. But I would anticipate that the all the steps laid out by the NFL rep would take at least 3 weeks and probably longer.

3 weeks? What, do you work for the government or something?

incase you havent noticed the NFL doesnt move too fast on things, Josh Gordon appeal, Ray Rice hearing, etc.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

As I pointed out when this story first broke, the public doesn't care what happened last week. Peterson went through court, paid the price of missing 8 games and it's boring to the public now.

We'll see.

Hardin is already making the case that this plea shouldn't fall under the NFL's domestic abuse policy. He pleaded to no contest to misdemeanor reckless assault while trying to discipline his son as he believed a good father should.

It seems that you continue to think that the league outcome is directly tied to the legal outcome. It doesn't especially matter whether "the plea" falls under the NFL's policy. The NFL's policy doesn't require a conviction or felony charges or anything like that. Peterson beat a little kid with a stick. The league can punish him for that, even if a jury didn't. This point has been made so many times it's weird that people keep making this mistake.

 

[LawFitz]

It seems that you continue to think that the league outcome is directly tied to the legal outcome. It doesn't especially matter whether "the plea" falls under the NFL's policy. The NFL's policy doesn't require a conviction or felony charges or anything like that. Peterson beat a little kid with a stick. The league can punish him for that, even if a jury didn't. This point has been made so many times it's weird that people keep making this mistake.

Fair commentary, except that he's already served the equivalent of an 8-game suspension (except for being paid). Does that not count for anything in your eyes?

 

[Dizzy]

The wave of responses on this guy is hilarious. If this was some 3rd string guy fresh off the practice squad, most of you would be fine with letting him sit or get kicked out of the league. But we can loosen the rules as it applies to stud RB's. Nice message to send to society.

Star treatment in professional sports? Is that what you're suggesting?

The star treatment is working against him here. No way if he was some nobody practice squad player that he would have been out this long.

Out this long? He'd probably be in JAIL if he's not ALL DAY ADRIAN PETERSON.

 

[shader]

It seems that you continue to think that the league outcome is directly tied to the legal outcome. It doesn't especially matter whether "the plea" falls under the NFL's policy. The NFL's policy doesn't require a conviction or felony charges or anything like that. Peterson beat a little kid with a stick. The league can punish him for that, even if a jury didn't. This point has been made so many times it's weird that people keep making this mistake.

Fair commentary, except that he's already served the equivalent of an 8-game suspension (except for being paid). Does that not count for anything in your eyes?

I think the "being paid" part is pretty big. So Petersons punishment for beating his kid to the point of being bloody is....he gets millions of dollars to do nothing?

 

[Sabertooth]

They could dock his pay for some or all of the 8 games and suit him up immediately, no? The NFL isn't beholden to any legal outcome. However they may feel he's already paid enough of a price.

Any outcome is possible. Handicapping it is almost impossible. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Insein]

It seems that you continue to think that the league outcome is directly tied to the legal outcome. It doesn't especially matter whether "the plea" falls under the NFL's policy. The NFL's policy doesn't require a conviction or felony charges or anything like that. Peterson beat a little kid with a stick. The league can punish him for that, even if a jury didn't. This point has been made so many times it's weird that people keep making this mistake.

Fair commentary, except that he's already served the equivalent of an 8-game suspension (except for being paid). Does that not count for anything in your eyes?

I think the "being paid" part is pretty big. So Petersons punishment for beating his kid to the point of being bloody is....he gets millions of dollars to do nothing?

Or they could take his money for 6-8 game checks as mentioned several times already.

 

[LawFitz]

It seems that you continue to think that the league outcome is directly tied to the legal outcome. It doesn't especially matter whether "the plea" falls under the NFL's policy. The NFL's policy doesn't require a conviction or felony charges or anything like that. Peterson beat a little kid with a stick. The league can punish him for that, even if a jury didn't. This point has been made so many times it's weird that people keep making this mistake.

Fair commentary, except that he's already served the equivalent of an 8-game suspension (except for being paid). Does that not count for anything in your eyes?

I think the "being paid" part is pretty big. So Petersons punishment for beating his kid to the point of being bloody is....he gets millions of dollars to do nothing?

Easy. Fine him six game checks and count the 8 games as suspension time served. BOOM

 

[mozzy84]

Minnesota Vikings RB Adrian Peterson still has many steps ahead of him before NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates him after he reached a plea deal in his child abuse case, according to a league source.

First, the NFL will examine the court documents and police reports of the case.

The NFL will convene experts on domestic violence and domestic abuse.

Next, the NFL will hold a hearing with Peterson and the NFLPA.

It is possible there will be a direct meeting with Goodell and Peterson, unless Goodell appoints another hearing officer

. Next, the NFL will consult with the Vikings and the union.

Finally, the NFL will apply the personal conduct policy.

There is no hurry, but there is also no delay in starting this process, according to a league source.

This could all happen by early next week.

I agree that this process could START next week. But I would anticipate that the all the steps laid out by the NFL rep would take at least 3 weeks and probably longer.

3 days if they even have to do all of that, the first two they have done I'm sure. The rest could be accomplished in two days depending on logistics. they are not starting from scratch here.

 

[VaTerp]

The wave of responses on this guy is hilarious. If this was some 3rd string guy fresh off the practice squad, most of you would be fine with letting him sit or get kicked out of the league. But we can loosen the rules as it applies to stud RB's. Nice message to send to society.

Star treatment in professional sports? Is that what you're suggesting?

The star treatment is working against him here. No way if he was some nobody practice squad player that he would have been out this long.

Out this long? He'd probably be in JAIL if he's not ALL DAY ADRIAN PETERSON.

Patently untrue.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

It seems that you continue to think that the league outcome is directly tied to the legal outcome. It doesn't especially matter whether "the plea" falls under the NFL's policy. The NFL's policy doesn't require a conviction or felony charges or anything like that. Peterson beat a little kid with a stick. The league can punish him for that, even if a jury didn't. This point has been made so many times it's weird that people keep making this mistake.

Fair commentary, except that he's already served the equivalent of an 8-game suspension (except for being paid). Does that not count for anything in your eyes?

Sure, I could see this ending with "time served." I could also see him being suspended for the rest of the season. I don't have a strong sense of which way it will go at this point. I see a lot of internet posters opining that now that his legal case is over, he's free to get back on the field after the bye, but the little reporting I've seen that cites "league sources" gives me the impression that they're not really in any hurry to rush him back out there. This is still a PR nightmare for the league and they're probably going to err on the side of coming down hard on child abuse.

Josh Gordon still got 10 games for smoking weed - if I had to guess, I'd say the NFL doesn't want to appear to be softer on Peterson than that, given all the controversy it caused a few months ago.

 

[Shawn]

It seems that you continue to think that the league outcome is directly tied to the legal outcome. It doesn't especially matter whether "the plea" falls under the NFL's policy. The NFL's policy doesn't require a conviction or felony charges or anything like that. Peterson beat a little kid with a stick. The league can punish him for that, even if a jury didn't. This point has been made so many times it's weird that people keep making this mistake.

Fair commentary, except that he's already served the equivalent of an 8-game suspension (except for being paid). Does that not count for anything in your eyes?

Sure, I could see this ending with "time served." I could also see him being suspended for the rest of the season. I don't have a strong sense of which way it will go at this point. I see a lot of internet posters opining that now that his legal case is over, he's free to get back on the field after the bye, but the little reporting I've seen that cites "league sources" gives me the impression that they're not really in any hurry to rush him back out there. This is still a PR nightmare for the league and they're probably going to err on the side of coming down hard on child abuse.Josh Gordon still got 10 games for smoking weed - if I had to guess, I'd say the NFL doesn't want to appear to be softer on Peterson than that, given all the controversy it caused a few months ago.

so he could be back by week 11 since he will have missed 10 games?

 

[matttyl]

It seems that you continue to think that the league outcome is directly tied to the legal outcome. It doesn't especially matter whether "the plea" falls under the NFL's policy. The NFL's policy doesn't require a conviction or felony charges or anything like that. Peterson beat a little kid with a stick. The league can punish him for that, even if a jury didn't. This point has been made so many times it's weird that people keep making this mistake.

Fair commentary, except that he's already served the equivalent of an 8-game suspension (except for being paid). Does that not count for anything in your eyes?

Sure, I could see this ending with "time served." I could also see him being suspended for the rest of the season. I don't have a strong sense of which way it will go at this point. I see a lot of internet posters opining that now that his legal case is over, he's free to get back on the field after the bye, but the little reporting I've seen that cites "league sources" gives me the impression that they're not really in any hurry to rush him back out there. This is still a PR nightmare for the league and they're probably going to err on the side of coming down hard on child abuse.Josh Gordon still got 10 games for smoking weed - if I had to guess, I'd say the NFL doesn't want to appear to be softer on Peterson than that, given all the controversy it caused a few months ago.

so he could be back by week 11 since he will have missed 10 games?

He played week 1.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

"Time served" for getting paid millions and doing nothing. We should all be so lucky...

Even if the league docks his pay, it still not technically a suspension. And it would certainly set a precedent that other domestic abuse offenders to use in their favor. Rog said he made a mistake with the Rice ruling, owned up to it and said from here on out, 6 weeks suspension was the minimum, and could be longer. How people are jumping to all these conclusions that he's going to set a discriminate enforcement policy for executing his mandate is puzzling to me. He may do it, but just doesn't seem to make much sense business wise nor is there much incentive to re-instate Peterson so quickly.

 

[weebs]

I think raider is a troll

 

[Isotopes]

"Time served" for getting paid millions and doing nothing. We should all be so lucky...

Even if the league docks his pay, it still not technically a suspension. And it would certainly set a precedent that other domestic abuse offenders to use in their favor. Rog said he made a mistake with the Rice ruling, owned up to it and said from here on out, 6 weeks suspension was the minimum, and could be longer. How people are jumping to all these conclusions that he's going to set a discriminate enforcement policy for executing his mandate is puzzling to me. He may do it, but just doesn't seem to make much sense business wise nor is there much incentive to re-instate Peterson so quickly.

I am starting to believe you are right here. I think Goodell gives him a 6 game suspension

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Minnesota Vikings RB Adrian Peterson still has many steps ahead of him before NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates him after he reached a plea deal in his child abuse case, according to a league source.

First, the NFL will examine the court documents and police reports of the case.

The NFL will convene experts on domestic violence and domestic abuse.

Next, the NFL will hold a hearing with Peterson and the NFLPA.

It is possible there will be a direct meeting with Goodell and Peterson, unless Goodell appoints another hearing officer

. Next, the NFL will consult with the Vikings and the union.

Finally, the NFL will apply the personal conduct policy.

There is no hurry, but there is also no delay in starting this process, according to a league source.

This could all happen by early next week.

I agree that this process could START next week. But I would anticipate that the all the steps laid out by the NFL rep would take at least 3 weeks and probably longer.

3 days if they even have to do all of that, the first two they have done I'm sure. The rest could be accomplished in two days depending on logistics. they are not starting from scratch here.

how do you know this?

court was just over yesterday, you think they got the documents already???

 

[Leroy Hoard]

"Time served" for getting paid millions and doing nothing. We should all be so lucky...

Even if the league docks his pay, it still not technically a suspension. And it would certainly set a precedent that other domestic abuse offenders to use in their favor. Rog said he made a mistake with the Rice ruling, owned up to it and said from here on out, 6 weeks suspension was the minimum, and could be longer. How people are jumping to all these conclusions that he's going to set a discriminate enforcement policy for executing his mandate is puzzling to me. He may do it, but just doesn't seem to make much sense business wise nor is there much incentive to re-instate Peterson so quickly.

I am starting to believe you are right here. I think Goodell gives him a 6 game suspension

He can't be seen as just giving him a paid or semi-paid vacation, which is where he is at right now. So maybe you 2 are right.

 

[AgentMulder]

"Time served" for getting paid millions and doing nothing. We should all be so lucky...

Even if the league docks his pay, it still not technically a suspension. And it would certainly set a precedent that other domestic abuse offenders to use in their favor. Rog said he made a mistake with the Rice ruling, owned up to it and said from here on out, 6 weeks suspension was the minimum, and could be longer. How people are jumping to all these conclusions that he's going to set a discriminate enforcement policy for executing his mandate is puzzling to me. He may do it, but just doesn't seem to make much sense business wise nor is there much incentive to re-instate Peterson so quickly.

I am starting to believe you are right here. I think Goodell gives him a 6 game suspension

He can't be seen as just giving him a paid or semi-paid vacation, which is where he is at right now. So maybe you 2 are right.

So a lot of waiver money wasted if this is the case. Not for me but others.

 

[Ladsud]

I should use this thread to boost my post count by posting the exact same thing over and over.

 

[AgentMulder]

I should use this thread to boost my post count by posting the exact same thing over and over.

This^ Lets do it!

 

[Leroy Hoard]

"Time served" for getting paid millions and doing nothing. We should all be so lucky...

Even if the league docks his pay, it still not technically a suspension. And it would certainly set a precedent that other domestic abuse offenders to use in their favor. Rog said he made a mistake with the Rice ruling, owned up to it and said from here on out, 6 weeks suspension was the minimum, and could be longer. How people are jumping to all these conclusions that he's going to set a discriminate enforcement policy for executing his mandate is puzzling to me. He may do it, but just doesn't seem to make much sense business wise nor is there much incentive to re-instate Peterson so quickly.

I am starting to believe you are right here. I think Goodell gives him a 6 game suspension

He can't be seen as just giving him a paid or semi-paid vacation, which is where he is at right now. So maybe you 2 are right.

So a lot of waiver money wasted if this is the case. Not for me but others.

I have no horse in this race either, I just think Goodall's butt still feels reamed over the Rice spousal abuse case and he does not want to hear more of the same from the child abuse people.

 

[JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo]

"Time served" for getting paid millions and doing nothing. We should all be so lucky...

Even if the league docks his pay, it still not technically a suspension. And it would certainly set a precedent that other domestic abuse offenders to use in their favor. Rog said he made a mistake with the Rice ruling, owned up to it and said from here on out, 6 weeks suspension was the minimum, and could be longer. How people are jumping to all these conclusions that he's going to set a discriminate enforcement policy for executing his mandate is puzzling to me. He may do it, but just doesn't seem to make much sense business wise nor is there much incentive to re-instate Peterson so quickly.

Makes sense to me...it would be pretty bad PR in a year of terrible PR for the league.

 

[General Tso]

Doing "time served" and docking him for 6 weeks pay amounts to over $5 million. And yes, at that point it would defacto be the equivalent of a 6 week suspension, along with 2 weeks of paid leave.

The key issue in my opinion is the service time. If Goodell does not go "time served" and tags on a 6 week suspension from today going forward, then AP misses out on a full year of service from a pension standpoint. Given the short life span of NFL careers I would think that this amounts to many millions of dollars in lost pension money for AP. And I'd think the Players Union would fight this tooth and nail. Just think about the precedent that could set.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

It seems that you continue to think that the league outcome is directly tied to the legal outcome. It doesn't especially matter whether "the plea" falls under the NFL's policy. The NFL's policy doesn't require a conviction or felony charges or anything like that. Peterson beat a little kid with a stick. The league can punish him for that, even if a jury didn't. This point has been made so many times it's weird that people keep making this mistake.

Fair commentary, except that he's already served the equivalent of an 8-game suspension (except for being paid). Does that not count for anything in your eyes?

Sure, I could see this ending with "time served." I could also see him being suspended for the rest of the season. I don't have a strong sense of which way it will go at this point. I see a lot of internet posters opining that now that his legal case is over, he's free to get back on the field after the bye, but the little reporting I've seen that cites "league sources" gives me the impression that they're not really in any hurry to rush him back out there. This is still a PR nightmare for the league and they're probably going to err on the side of coming down hard on child abuse.Josh Gordon still got 10 games for smoking weed - if I had to guess, I'd say the NFL doesn't want to appear to be softer on Peterson than that, given all the controversy it caused a few months ago.

so he could be back by week 11 since he will have missed 10 games?

If he's back in week 11 he will have only missed 8 games.

Obviously he could be back at any time. No one here knows when he will be back.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

I should use this thread to boost my post count by posting the exact same thing over and over.

This^ Lets do it!

Do it and I'll beat you with a switch, also it doesn't change any of your join dates.

 

[bill bates hits hard]

@Rotoworld_FB: Adrian Peterson hopes to play Wk 11 vs. Bears http://t.co/wS4JbAHMnn

 

[Jerry Curl]

@Rotoworld_FB: Adrian Peterson hopes to play Wk 11 vs. Bears http://t.co/wS4JbAHMnn

Here is the text.

Adrian Peterson's attorney, Rusty Hardin, made it clear that Peterson hopes to be playing for the Vikings when they come out of their bye Week 11 against the Bears.
Peterson wants the NFL to move quickly in deciding whether Peterson will be suspended or reinstated immediately. And that's fair for Peterson to ask. "I’m hoping that can be done quickly and I’m hoping the NFL is receptive to it," Hardin said. "It’s time for him to go back and play football." The league has to this point declined to provide a timetable for Peterson. But all of his legal matters are resolved. The next step is football. Peterson needs to be owned in all formats.


Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
Nov 5 - 4:33 PM

 

[shader]

It seems that you continue to think that the league outcome is directly tied to the legal outcome. It doesn't especially matter whether "the plea" falls under the NFL's policy. The NFL's policy doesn't require a conviction or felony charges or anything like that. Peterson beat a little kid with a stick. The league can punish him for that, even if a jury didn't. This point has been made so many times it's weird that people keep making this mistake.

Fair commentary, except that he's already served the equivalent of an 8-game suspension (except for being paid). Does that not count for anything in your eyes?

I think the "being paid" part is pretty big. So Petersons punishment for beating his kid to the point of being bloody is....he gets millions of dollars to do nothing?

Easy. Fine him six game checks and count the 8 games as suspension time served. BOOM

His base salary is 11 million dollars. He's already been paid 5.5 million. You guys really think they are going to fine him 4-5 million dollars? It would be unprecedented, imo.

 

[shader]

Another thing...everyone was so sure he was done for the year. What has changed? We knew he wasn't getting jail time or getting charged with a felony.

The Vikings cut ways with peterson due to sponsors and public opinion. Maybe time has healed wounds. But I bet they are more concerned with sponsors than with getting AP back, especially if he's leaving after the year.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Another thing...everyone was so sure he was done for the year. What has changed? We knew he wasn't getting jail time or getting charged with a felony.

The Vikings cut ways with peterson due to sponsors and public opinion. Maybe time has healed wounds. But I bet they are more concerned with sponsors than with getting AP back, especially if he's leaving after the year.

They are 4-5 in a business thats object is to win. Peterson is a difference maker. Maybe they are concerned with that.

 

[chinawildman]

Sure the league has to do it's due diligence in investigating the legal proceedings (or at least give the appearance of doing so) but they should already know by now what legal recourse are available at their disposal.

The official line given for his placement on the exemption list is that he is to remain away from the team until his legal proceedings have been resolved. That has already happened. Whatever arrangement they made to keep him off the field have effectively expired.

Don't think for a second that the NFL can simply "stall" this situation out, for they will immediately run aground into the CBA. With the Rice lawsuit pending, they will make a decision sooner rather than later to avoid further litigation. The way I see it, if the Peterson camp proffers that he gets fined game checks for "time served", what legitimate and legal reason does the NFL have to refute the proposal?

 

[chinawildman]

Another thing...everyone was so sure he was done for the year. What has changed? We knew he wasn't getting jail time or getting charged with a felony.

The Vikings cut ways with peterson due to sponsors and public opinion. Maybe time has healed wounds. But I bet they are more concerned with sponsors than with getting AP back, especially if he's leaving after the year.

Highly doubt Hardin would have taken a plea if they were still unsure as to the Vikings' stance in this matter.

Sponsors sign agreements with teams, meaning there are likely contracts in place with certain outs built in. Likewise the team's contract attorneys will build in stipulations to make sure sponsors can't simply pull financial support at a whim. All that matters is whether Peterson is found to have been sufficiently "punished" by the league and the team in accordance with stipulations in those contracts. Hardin isn't paid just to dance in front of a judge.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Doing "time served" and docking him for 6 weeks pay amounts to over $5 million. And yes, at that point it would defacto be the equivalent of a 6 week suspension, along with 2 weeks of paid leave.

The key issue in my opinion is the service time. If Goodell does not go "time served" and tags on a 6 week suspension from today going forward, then AP misses out on a full year of service from a pension standpoint. Given the short life span of NFL careers I would think that this amounts to many millions of dollars in lost pension money for AP. And I'd think the Players Union would fight this tooth and nail. Just think about the precedent that could set.

I do believe you are right. Not only that, I'm starting to get the feeling that Peterson and Hardin are doing Rog and the NFL a favor by agreeing to any concessions at all.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Doing "time served" and docking him for 6 weeks pay amounts to over $5 million. And yes, at that point it would defacto be the equivalent of a 6 week suspension, along with 2 weeks of paid leave.

The key issue in my opinion is the service time. If Goodell does not go "time served" and tags on a 6 week suspension from today going forward, then AP misses out on a full year of service from a pension standpoint. Given the short life span of NFL careers I would think that this amounts to many millions of dollars in lost pension money for AP. And I'd think the Players Union would fight this tooth and nail. Just think about the precedent that could set.

I do believe you are right. Not only that, I'm starting to get the feeling that Peterson and Hardin are doing Rog and the NFL a favor by agreeing to any concessions at all.

Public opinion doesnt matter when contracts are involved and thats what the CBA is and the section that people are referring to is pretty damming to Roger and his decision. I have said his hands will be tied by that article of the CBA and Peterson will play once he is able to make a decision. The time it takes to make a decision is what worries me. We know the NFLPA and Hardin are pushing for swift resolutions.

 

[Joe Summer]

Another thing...everyone was so sure he was done for the year. What has changed? We knew he wasn't getting jail time or getting charged with a felony.

What changed is that Peterson agreed to a plea deal. Remember that he and his lawyer stated at his first hearing that he was planning to go to trial. Since the trial would not start until December, it meant that Peterson was very unlikely to play in 2014.

Now that he's agreed to a plea, he could play as soon as Week 11 or as late as Week 17 (if he's suspended for 6 games).