Adrian Peterson Status Updates (1 Viewer)

[I Am the Stig]

Do you believe AP will play again this year?

I think there's a very low probability Peterson plays again this year.

When the story broke in September my initial gut reaction was that he was done for the year, and honestly, nothing's happened since then that would really make me change that opinion.

I generally agree, but clearly you still held on to him. Why? You didn't state if you held in a Dynasty or re-draft.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Do you believe AP will play again this year?

I think there's a very low probability Peterson plays again this year.

When the story broke in September my initial gut reaction was that he was done for the year, and honestly, nothing's happened since then that would really make me change that opinion.

I generally agree, but clearly you still held on to him. Why? You didn't state if you held in a Dynasty or re-draft.

The league I'm holding him in is redraft, and I'm doing so because he's one of the greatest running backs to ever play the game, and my gut instinct about the league's disciplinary action could easily be wrong. Is there some point you're trying to make, because the answers to your questions could easily be inferred from what I've already posted.

 

[I Am the Stig]

Do you believe AP will play again this year?

I think there's a very low probability Peterson plays again this year.

When the story broke in September my initial gut reaction was that he was done for the year, and honestly, nothing's happened since then that would really make me change that opinion.

I generally agree, but clearly you still held on to him. Why? You didn't state if you held in a Dynasty or re-draft.

The league I'm holding him in is redraft, and I'm doing so because he's one of the greatest running backs to ever play the game, and my gut instinct about the league's disciplinary action could easily be wrong. Is there some point you're trying to make, because the answers to your questions could easily be inferred from what I've already posted.

See there you go. You could have just said: "The league I'm holding him in is redraft, and I'm doing so because he's one of the greatest running backs to ever play the game, and my gut instinct about the league's disciplinary action could easily be wrong."

I was just interested in why you held since you seem to feel pretty strongly that he won't play this year is all. Some folks would have let logic over-ride their gut. And some folks just didn't like the story and didn't want to be associated with him regardless of their roster space.

I think Vick went through similar stigma when he came back until he proved it on the field then people started to forget.

 

[dickey moe]

Not really interested in reading this thread, but I'll just add, if the judicial system has determined that a person isn't going to jail for a particular charge, then that person should NOT lose their job over it.

Plenty of reasons to lose a job despite not being convicted of a felony. Optics/politics matter.

 

[Insein]

Not really interested in reading this thread, but I'll just add, if the judicial system has determined that a person isn't going to jail for a particular charge, then that person should NOT lose their job over it.

Plenty of reasons to lose a job despite not being convicted of a felony. Optics/politics matter.

Pretty sure he can see fine. I don't think his optics will come into play.

 

[mbuehner]

Not really interested in reading this thread, but I'll just add, if the judicial system has determined that a person isn't going to jail for a particular charge, then that person should NOT lose their job over it.

Short of a government job, i've never heard of anything like this. You could punch your boss in the mouth and not get jail time.

 

[Gvindy]

Not really interested in reading this thread, but I'll just add, if the judicial system has determined that a person isn't going to jail for a particular charge, then that person should NOT lose their job over it.

Short of a government job, i've never heard of anything like this. You could punch your boss in the mouth and not get jail time.

I think this happens in the corporate world a lot. If the situation brings controversy, or bad publicity, they will find a loophole to send you packing before all the facts are sorted out.

 

[ryno1980]

And sometimes, if you're a hall of fame linebacker or running back, they hand out some punishment and get you back to work.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The woman in charge of the NFL's domestic violence policy:

... It's early October, only a few weeks from the Ray Rice fiasco, and tensions at the league's Park Avenue headquarters are high. In the next hour, Anna Isaacson will gather input from a cast of experts and finalize the domestic violence and sexual assault seminars the league will soon roll out to all 32 teams.

...The fact that this woman is making these decisions is surprising, to say the least. At 35 years old, with limited prior experience working on domestic violence and sexual assault issues, Isaacson is the most unlikely of NFL saviors. Her athletic career consists of one Little League baseball season. She taught herself the rules of football by reading "Football for Dummies." She landed her first job at the NFL in 2006 by applying on the league's website. Yet on Sept. 15, when the league was in crisis as a result of its fumbling the Rice case and other domestic violence accusations involving NFL players, Goodell named Isaacson the league's first vice president of social responsibility. ...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread141105/new-vp-social-responsibility-anna-isaacson-tries-save-nfl

Well, it's a fair court.

 

[RealReactions]

And sometimes, if you're a hall of fame linebacker or running back, they hand out some punishment and get you back to work.

Prime example ray lewis. Shoots people and just gets a fine. I won't be shocked if Ap is back week 11 but then again I won't be shocked if they suspend him for the entire season. I kind of see it as a 50-50

 

[mbuehner]

Not really interested in reading this thread, but I'll just add, if the judicial system has determined that a person isn't going to jail for a particular charge, then that person should NOT lose their job over it.

Short of a government job, i've never heard of anything like this. You could punch your boss in the mouth and not get jail time.

I think this happens in the corporate world a lot. If the situation brings controversy, or bad publicity, they will find a loophole to send you packing before all the facts are sorted out.

In 'at will' states you can get fired for wearing a tie your boss doesn't like. Nobody is entitled to a job.

Peterson, however, is under contract. The Vikings can cut him for any reason, or no reason. But he will get paid per the contract. Now if they want to mess with his money it has to pass muster with the collective bargaining agreement.

 

[CalBear]

Not really interested in reading this thread, but I'll just add, if the judicial system has determined that a person isn't going to jail for a particular charge, then that person should NOT lose their job over it.

That makes no sense; the court case wasn't over whether he should keep the job or not. If your waiter spits in your coffee should he only be fired if you can come up with charges to imprison him on?

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I think he's already served his punishment for this. But the media will not let it die unless he gets suspended for the rest of the season just like Rice. The media wields a strong pen in slanting public opinion to serve their own purpose, especially considering most of them are not worth a grain of salt.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I think he's already served his punishment for this. But the media will not let it die unless he gets suspended for the rest of the season just like Rice. The media wields a strong pen in slanting public opinion to serve their own purpose, especially considering most of them are not worth a grain of salt.

i think the media is over this for the most part. He's been gone most of the season and the witch hunt looks to be over. The public is fickle and moves on to the next story pretty quickly.

 

[cstu]

I think he's already served his punishment for this. But the media will not let it die unless he gets suspended for the rest of the season just like Rice. The media wields a strong pen in slanting public opinion to serve their own purpose, especially considering most of them are not worth a grain of salt.

i think the media is over this for the most part. He's been gone most of the season and the witch hunt looks to be over. The public is fickle and moves on to the next story pretty quickly.

Public sentiment seems to have changed with 72% of people in Minnesota voting for him to play. In this poll and this one after he was suspended only 40-42% wanted him to play. That's a big change and roughly half the people who wanted him suspended think he's been punished enough by the league.

 

[Sabertooth]

He's going to whip this thing. You just watch.

 

[weebs]

I think he's already served his punishment for this. But the media will not let it die unless he gets suspended for the rest of the season just like Rice. The media wields a strong pen in slanting public opinion to serve their own purpose, especially considering most of them are not worth a grain of salt.

And you know this fact that how? Oh, you pulled it out of your ###.

 

[Insein]

I think he's already served his punishment for this. But the media will not let it die unless he gets suspended for the rest of the season just like Rice. The media wields a strong pen in slanting public opinion to serve their own purpose, especially considering most of them are not worth a grain of salt.

And you know this fact that how? Oh, you pulled it out of your ###.

Must you dump on every thread you're in?

 

[fatness]

8 weeks paid vacation sure sounds good to me. Where do I sign up?

No kidding. Full pay, no injury risk, likely extending his career.

Face it kiddos, the only people really wanting peterson on the field quickly are the fantasy guys.

Peterson, himself, is probably only giving this lip service to save face and go through the motions. In private, he is counting money, playing video games, and laughing.

Laughing until a kid beats him at that video game.

 

[RealReactions]

I think he's already served his punishment for this. But the media will not let it die unless he gets suspended for the rest of the season just like Rice. The media wields a strong pen in slanting public opinion to serve their own purpose, especially considering most of them are not worth a grain of salt.

And you know this fact that how? Oh, you pulled it out of your ###.

Maybe because the fact every time you turn on the TV its not negativity towards ap anymore it is about him moving on that is just one example how we can tell the media is over it.

 

[Dizzy]

And sometimes, if you're a hall of fame linebacker or running back, they hand out some punishment and get you back to work.

Prime example ray lewis. Shoots people and just gets a fine. I won't be shocked if Ap is back week 11 but then again I won't be shocked if they suspend him for the entire season. I kind of see it as a 50-50

Whoa! Ray Lewis shot somebody? When did that happen?

 

[Jack White]

And sometimes, if you're a hall of fame linebacker or running back, they hand out some punishment and get you back to work.

Prime example ray lewis. Shoots people and just gets a fine. I won't be shocked if Ap is back week 11 but then again I won't be shocked if they suspend him for the entire season. I kind of see it as a 50-50

Whoa! Ray Lewis shot somebody? When did that happen?

He didn't. He got in trouble because he refused to be a rat and do the cops' jobs for them.

 

[Dizzy]

And sometimes, if you're a hall of fame linebacker or running back, they hand out some punishment and get you back to work.

Prime example ray lewis. Shoots people and just gets a fine. I won't be shocked if Ap is back week 11 but then again I won't be shocked if they suspend him for the entire season. I kind of see it as a 50-50

Whoa! Ray Lewis shot somebody? When did that happen?

He didn't. He got in trouble because he refused to be a rat and do the cops' jobs for them.

Yup, I remember that one. Amazing how many people are convinced that Ray Lewis killed somebody. Even those that brought charges against him seem to know that he was not the person that did the stabbing. Apparently in Georgia that's not all that important though.

I figured there was a chance that maybe he shot somebody in a hunting accident or something like that.

RealReactions indeed.

 

[RealReactions]

And sometimes, if you're a hall of fame linebacker or running back, they hand out some punishment and get you back to work.

Prime example ray lewis. Shoots people and just gets a fine. I won't be shocked if Ap is back week 11 but then again I won't be shocked if they suspend him for the entire season. I kind of see it as a 50-50

Whoa! Ray Lewis shot somebody? When did that happen?

He didn't. He got in trouble because he refused to be a rat and do the cops' jobs for them.

Yup, I remember that one. Amazing how many people are convinced that Ray Lewis killed somebody. Even those that brought charges against him seem to know that he was not the person that did the stabbing. Apparently in Georgia that's not all that important though.

I figured there was a chance that maybe he shot somebody in a hunting accident or something like that.

RealReactions indeed.

Saying he didn't do it is like saying oj didn't kill his wife or Hernandez isn't a murderer either. Just because you can buy your way out and become innocent doesn't mean you are.

 

[Dizzy]

And sometimes, if you're a hall of fame linebacker or running back, they hand out some punishment and get you back to work.

Prime example ray lewis. Shoots people and just gets a fine. I won't be shocked if Ap is back week 11 but then again I won't be shocked if they suspend him for the entire season. I kind of see it as a 50-50

Whoa! Ray Lewis shot somebody? When did that happen?

He didn't. He got in trouble because he refused to be a rat and do the cops' jobs for them.

Yup, I remember that one. Amazing how many people are convinced that Ray Lewis killed somebody. Even those that brought charges against him seem to know that he was not the person that did the stabbing. Apparently in Georgia that's not all that important though.

I figured there was a chance that maybe he shot somebody in a hunting accident or something like that.

RealReactions indeed.

Saying he didn't do it is like saying oj didn't kill his wife or Hernandez isn't a murderer either. Just because you can buy your way out and become innocent doesn't mean you are.

Just stop dude. It's pretty clear you know nothing about the Ray Lewis case. Did you really think that he shot somebody? That's funny.

 

[Henry Ford]

In the case of this particular thread I wouldn't disagree with you but it doesn't mean I haven't read the forum and been irritated by IE's arrogance and general trolling baiting and attacking forum users.

Since everyone's probably unfamiliar with your little backstory, The Stig mistakenly made a bunch of incorrect arguments about probability and statistics in a thread last year. After being shown repeatedly by many people (myself included) how wrong he was, he lost it, started deleting posts, whining in my inbox about how I "embarrassed him," etc. Apparently as a result he thinks all I do is troll and attack people. I'll let you reach your own conclusions.

Do you believe AP will play again this year?You can answer a honest thread relevant question or "attack", the choice is yours.

maybe?

Attack!

 

[Jerry Curl]

So this is what happens to a thread once it becomes popular huh? No discussion about Peterson anymore, all just arguments and jokes. Pretty typical.

 

[cjv123]

Can someone start a thread that actually is restricted to updates? I own ADP and I would like to know if anything actually happens.

 

[I Am the Stig]

In the case of this particular thread I wouldn't disagree with you but it doesn't mean I haven't read the forum and been irritated by IE's arrogance and general trolling baiting and attacking forum users.

Since everyone's probably unfamiliar with your little backstory, The Stig mistakenly made a bunch of incorrect arguments about probability and statistics in a thread last year. After being shown repeatedly by many people (myself included) how wrong he was, he lost it, started deleting posts, whining in my inbox about how I "embarrassed him," etc. Apparently as a result he thinks all I do is troll and attack people. I'll let you reach your own conclusions.

Do you believe AP will play again this year?You can answer a honest thread relevant question or "attack", the choice is yours.

maybe?

Attack!

Glass Houses Mr. Ford, glass houses:

http://fordpinto.blogspot.com/2010_03_01_archive.html

 

[I Am the Stig]

Can someone start a thread that actually is restricted to updates? I own ADP and I would like to know if anything actually happens.

There is no new news today :( hence the rampant snark and jocularity.

 

[Smack Tripper]

And sometimes, if you're a hall of fame linebacker or running back, they hand out some punishment and get you back to work.

Prime example ray lewis. Shoots people and just gets a fine. I won't be shocked if Ap is back week 11 but then again I won't be shocked if they suspend him for the entire season. I kind of see it as a 50-50

Whoa! Ray Lewis shot somebody? When did that happen?

He didn't. He got in trouble because he refused to be a rat and do the cops' jobs for them.

Yup, I remember that one. Amazing how many people are convinced that Ray Lewis killed somebody. Even those that brought charges against him seem to know that he was not the person that did the stabbing. Apparently in Georgia that's not all that important though.

I figured there was a chance that maybe he shot somebody in a hunting accident or something like that.

RealReactions indeed.

We're getting off topic here but pretty sure cops can't do their job when you obstruct justice and evidence goes missing.

 

[KellysHeroes]

And sometimes, if you're a hall of fame linebacker or running back, they hand out some punishment and get you back to work.

Prime example ray lewis. Shoots people and just gets a fine. I won't be shocked if Ap is back week 11 but then again I won't be shocked if they suspend him for the entire season. I kind of see it as a 50-50

Whoa! Ray Lewis shot somebody? When did that happen?

He didn't. He got in trouble because he refused to be a rat and do the cops' jobs for them.

Yup, I remember that one. Amazing how many people are convinced that Ray Lewis killed somebody. Even those that brought charges against him seem to know that he was not the person that did the stabbing. Apparently in Georgia that's not all that important though.

I figured there was a chance that maybe he shot somebody in a hunting accident or something like that.

RealReactions indeed.

Saying he didn't do it is like saying oj didn't kill his wife or Hernandez isn't a murderer either. Just because you can buy your way out and become innocent doesn't mean you are.

Just stop dude. It's pretty clear you know nothing about the Ray Lewis case. Did you really think that he shot somebody? That's funny.

No one knows anything about the Ray Lewis case, there was no TMZ back then

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Back to AP.

Florio:

A storm is coming.

This is really worth watching and I think Florio has this nailed 100%.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/07/pft-live-why-is-adrian-peterson-still-on-commissioners-exempt-list/

 

[I Am the Stig]

And there is this Vikings negativity:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/06/report-vikings-discuss-whether-peterson-should-play/

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Back to AP.

Florio:

A storm is coming.

This is really worth watching and I think Florio has this nailed 100%.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/07/pft-live-why-is-adrian-peterson-still-on-commissioners-exempt-list/

He has a good point about Goodell keeping Peterson on the Exempt List, but he's exaggerating how much Peterson "helped out" the NFL.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

And there is this Vikings negativity:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/06/report-vikings-discuss-whether-peterson-should-play/

Florio mentioned that in his video. The Vikes "don't want him on the field" and they don't want to cut him because they can trade him for a bushel of picks in the offseason as with Harvin.

It looks like the next shoe to drop is the Rice decision. He is probably going to be freed from his indefinite suspension, Goodell will officially be outed as a liar by a federal judge and then Rog will be in a very, dark, tight, uncomfortable place.

 

[cstu]

And there is this Vikings negativity:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/06/report-vikings-discuss-whether-peterson-should-play/

Florio mentioned that in his video. The Vikes "don't want him on the field" and they don't want to cut him because they can trade him for a bushel of picks in the offseason as with Harvin.

It looks like the next shoe to drop is the Rice decision. He is probably going to be freed from his indefinite suspension, Goodell will officially be outed as a liar by a federal judge and then Rog will be in a very, dark, tight, uncomfortable place.

Back of a Volkswagon?

 

[cstu]

And there is this Vikings negativity:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/06/report-vikings-discuss-whether-peterson-should-play/

79% think he should be allowed to play.

 

[LawFitz]

Should Adrian Peterson be allowed to play this season?

Yes.

78.94% (19,575 votes)
No. 21.06% (5,221 votes)
Total Votes: 24,796

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

And there is this Vikings negativity:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/06/report-vikings-discuss-whether-peterson-should-play/

Florio mentioned that in his video. The Vikes "don't want him on the field" and they don't want to cut him because they can trade him for a bushel of picks in the offseason as with Harvin.

It looks like the next shoe to drop is the Rice decision. He is probably going to be freed from his indefinite suspension, Goodell will officially be outed as a liar by a federal judge and then Rog will be in a very, dark, tight, uncomfortable place.

Back of a Volkswagon?

Yes, it will be like being in the trunk of a `72 Karmann Ghia to be exact.

 

[Donnybrook]

And there is this Vikings negativity:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/06/report-vikings-discuss-whether-peterson-should-play/

Vikings can't win with the media no matter what they do. They tried to reinstate him after the incident and there was a huge backlash. The team started to lose sponsors and the Governor goes on record against the decision. Now they don't reinstate him right away after the "no contest" verdict and now the Vikings and the NFL are "dragging their feet".

 

[CalBear]

And there is this Vikings negativity:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/06/report-vikings-discuss-whether-peterson-should-play/

Florio mentioned that in his video. The Vikes "don't want him on the field" and they don't want to cut him because they can trade him for a bushel of picks in the offseason as with Harvin.

It looks like the next shoe to drop is the Rice decision. He is probably going to be freed from his indefinite suspension, Goodell will officially be outed as a liar by a federal judge and then Rog will be in a very, dark, tight, uncomfortable place.

The Vikings will put Peterson on the field; they wouldn't be paying his salary if they didn't want to play him. His contract is massive and there's no way another team is going to give up a bunch of picks for a 30-year-old RB earning over $10 million a year. If the Vikings hold onto him the other teams will just play chicken with the roster deadline until Minnesota has to roster him or cut him; at that point they'd be lucky to get a third-rounder for him.

I think you're right that Goodell is going to be in an increasingly difficult position as things work through the legal system. In the end, he doesn't have the right to serve out discipline in the way that he thinks will best fit the NFL's image; he can only do what's allowed for in the CBA, and he seems to be overstepping that pretty regularly.

 

[I Am the Stig]

And there is this Vikings negativity:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/06/report-vikings-discuss-whether-peterson-should-play/

Florio mentioned that in his video. The Vikes "don't want him on the field" and they don't want to cut him because they can trade him for a bushel of picks in the offseason as with Harvin.

It looks like the next shoe to drop is the Rice decision. He is probably going to be freed from his indefinite suspension, Goodell will officially be outed as a liar by a federal judge and then Rog will be in a very, dark, tight, uncomfortable place.

The Vikings will put Peterson on the field; they wouldn't be paying his salary if they didn't want to play him. His contract is massive and there's no way another team is going to give up a bunch of picks for a 30-year-old RB earning over $10 million a year. If the Vikings hold onto him the other teams will just play chicken with the roster deadline until Minnesota has to roster him or cut him; at that point they'd be lucky to get a third-rounder for him.

I think you're right that Goodell is going to be in an increasingly difficult position as things work through the legal system. In the end, he doesn't have the right to serve out discipline in the way that he thinks will best fit the NFL's image; he can only do what's allowed for in the CBA, and he seems to be overstepping that pretty regularly.

What else isn't being discussed is the incentives in AP's contract. Every keeps saying that "he is being paid" but if he played, he stood the opportunity to earn more.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Back to AP.

Florio:

A storm is coming.

This is really worth watching and I think Florio has this nailed 100%.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/07/pft-live-why-is-adrian-peterson-still-on-commissioners-exempt-list/

He has a good point about Goodell keeping Peterson on the Exempt List, but he's exaggerating how much Peterson "helped out" the NFL.

If they keep him on this list during next week's game then there no way any player should "agree" to go on it. ADP is at their mercy now and there's no action he can take.

 

[bigbrownbag]

Not sure if this angle has been mentioned. But if you're the Vikings wouldn't you be saying to the league. If we are paying this guy 15 million dollars (or whatever the exact number is) at least let us get some use out of him now that the legal issues are over. They are far from out of it.

 

[snellman]

Not sure if this angle has been mentioned. But if you're the Vikings wouldn't you be saying to the league. If we are paying this guy 15 million dollars (or whatever the exact number is) at least let us get some use out of him now that the legal issues are over. They are far from out of it.

That is why part of me wonders if the Vikings aren't possibly in with the commish on this (for lack of a better explanation). I wonder if they don't want him to play because of the backlash they received when they screwed up initially and were going to play him after being inactive for 1 game. They don't want any more sponsors to pull out and are afraid of that happening if AD plays. I also think he will probably be gone as soon as the new league year starts because there will be minimal cap hit. Part of me wonders if they would have released him this year as soon as he was charged, but couldn't absorb the cap hit.

Just me ranting, but it has to make you wonder.

 

[Donnybrook]

Interesting enough Nike cut ties with Peterson after plea

 

[DropKick]

Not really interested in reading this thread, but I'll just add, if the judicial system has determined that a person isn't going to jail for a particular charge, then that person should NOT lose their job over it.

Never heard sexual harassment stories I take it... FWIW, there are lots of things that the judicial system could care less about that cost people their jobs.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Can someone tell me why this would be outside of the six game mandatory domestic violence suspension window? When has a there ever been a "time served" provision of an nfl action?

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Can someone tell me why this would be outside of the six game mandatory domestic violence suspension window? When has a there ever been a "time served" provision of an nfl action?

He wasn't convicted of a domestic violence crime (the plea agreement specifically removed any reference to domestic violence or children). So Goodell isn't forced to suspend Peterson for 6 games. He can basically do whatever he wants.