Adrian Peterson Status Updates (1 Viewer)

[Bigboy10182000]

He beat the hell out of a child - who gives a rip about the commissioner's consistency here? I don't. The message is clear, in my mind: If you and an adult have a dispute - even one that involves grotesque, unnecessary and vile actions such as the Rice incident - you are still dealing with two adults. If you harm a child there will be severe consequences. Simple as that.

The only think inconsistent would he people's feelings of the Commish. He'll hammer you and everything is handled on a case by case basis. You do that to a kid and I'm glad he found a way to F him off for the year.

 

[Bojang0301]

Lol at the people shaming Peterson, defending McDonald. The court of public opinion is good for one but not the other. Give me a break.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

All of you need to wake up - Goodell has every right to assess the punishments on personal conduct violations off the field.

The NFLPA gave that authority to Goodell so they could get more $$ and less practices, hitting in practices, etc. This is an issue that was brought up several times when the CBA was being negotiated. I think the only reason the NFLPA /M Smith are making a "stand" is due to M Smith being challenged for his leadership - mostly over this issue.

They gave it up because they're weren't willing to lose a game check or two for a strike.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

so how many millions did ADP still make this year???

he was treated SOOOO unfairly, gimme a break

 

[Dondante]

He beat the hell out of a child - who gives a rip about the commissioner's consistency here? I don't. The message is clear, in my mind: If you and an adult have a dispute - even one that involves grotesque, unnecessary and vile actions such as the Rice incident - you are still dealing with two adults. If you harm a child there will be severe consequences. Simple as that.

The only think inconsistent would he people's feelings of the Commish. He'll hammer you and everything is handled on a case by case basis. You do that to a kid and I'm glad he found a way to F him off for the year.

Given the nature of the conversation(s) I don't have even the slightest problem with this. The NFL is not a democracy.

 

[Bojang0301]

All of you need to wake up - Goodell has every right to assess the punishments on personal conduct violations off the field.

The NFLPA gave that authority to Goodell so they could get more $$ and less practices, hitting in practices, etc. This is an issue that was brought up several times when the CBA was being negotiated. I think the only reason the NFLPA /M Smith are making a "stand" is due to M Smith being challenged for his leadership - mostly over this issue.

Someone already said it but they really are the worst union. I'm trying to find baseball retirement terms out of curiosity and know they start getting a pension at 43 days on the active roster. They knew this was an issue going back to Pac Man Jones days and ignored it at the last agreement. They pissed away the players real opportunity to make money (rookie contracts) in an attempt to get vets paid. What has happened in turn is that teams rely on rookie contracts unless you happen to be a QB. They have given owners everything they have always wanted. I suppose it could be having the highest amount of turnover of any professional league but they are weak sauce. How does a sport this violent, where the careers are this short not have gaurenteed contracts? It will lead to a strike at some point in my life but the owners locked them into another bad deal for this decade and will continue to ride that horse.

 

[snogger]

so how many millions did ADP still make this year???

he was treated SOOOO unfairly, gimme a break

The point being, with or without pay, he was effectively suspended for a year without the Commish having to actually come out and say that..

Again, because of this I really can not see any reason another player will EVER allow himself to be put on the "commissioners Exempt List" again.. he just lost a bargaining chip IMO.. from here on out they are going to have to step up and make a decision right away and can't fall back on this "Out"

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

so how many millions did ADP still make this year???

he was treated SOOOO unfairly, gimme a break

The point being, with or without pay, he was effectively suspended for a year without the Commish having to actually come out and say that..

Again, because of this I really can not see any reason another player will EVER allow himself to be put on the "commissioners Exempt List" again.. he just lost a bargaining chip IMO.. from here on out they are going to have to step up and make a decision right away and can't fall back on this "Out"

you want to go on this list with pay? Or you want us to suspend you without pay?

What do you do?

 

[cstu]

so how many millions did ADP still make this year???

he was treated SOOOO unfairly, gimme a break

The point being, with or without pay, he was effectively suspended for a year without the Commish having to actually come out and say that..

Again, because of this I really can not see any reason another player will EVER allow himself to be put on the "commissioners Exempt List" again.. he just lost a bargaining chip IMO.. from here on out they are going to have to step up and make a decision right away and can't fall back on this "Out"

you want to go on this list with pay? Or you want us to suspend you without pay?

What do you do?

Without pay so I can play after 6 games.

 

[I Am the Stig]

so how many millions did ADP still make this year???

he was treated SOOOO unfairly, gimme a break

Give it a rest. Nobody claimed otherwise. As fantasy owners, all anyone wanted was a quick decision one way or the other.

 

[RUSF18]

Lol at the people shaming Peterson, defending McDonald. The court of public opinion is good for one but not the other. Give me a break.

Do you want every single player accused of a crime to be suspended/shelved immediately?

 

[TheFanatic]

Try to remember the reason behind this thread and why it was started when there was another thread out there. This is not to discuss Adrian's views on child rearing and any of that. This is about fantasy football. Yes a child was hurt, but we come here to talk football and how it relates to our teams. It's crass, but that's why we're here. If you want to debate parenting and what is appropriate to discipline a child, then go to the FFA. I'm sure there is a MUCH longer thread in there full of people screaming at each other.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

so how many millions did ADP still make this year???

he was treated SOOOO unfairly, gimme a break

Give it a rest. Nobody claimed otherwise. As fantasy owners, all anyone wanted was a quick decision one way or the other.

sounds like its over besides the appeal? His court case was was Nov 4th, and now its the 18th? seems reasonable to me

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

It really feels like Goodell deliberately kept Peterson on the Exempt List so that he could suspend Peterson for exactly 6 games and not have Peterson come back this season.

That's exactly what happened. The NFL penalty for Adrian Peterson is 16 weeks, 15 games out, part paid, part unpaid, with no assurance of reinstatement. There is also a mandatory course of therapy and counseling according to the NFL's statement.

That's the penalty.

There will be an appeal, a demand for an independent arbitrator, and a lawsuit with a request for an injunction and Goodell will be asked to testify. The next round of negotiations with the union will be poisoned as well as the NFL has directly broken faith with Smith and the PA.

AP may never play again (seriously what if he doesn't meet any of the NFL demands for their version of treatment?) but this storm is just starting to rage.

 

[FBG Moderator]

This thread is for football related discussion around the Adrian Peterson situation, including updates about his on field status and impact on NFL-NFLPA relations without it devolving into arguments about child rearing, discipline or using a switch.

If someone personally condemns or supports Peterson's actions, those with opposing views are going to be baited to respond and that is going to derail the football discussion. If you want to share your personal condemnation or support of Peterson's original actions, do it in a different thread.

While were so concerned with protecting the image of the sheild, when do we concern ourselves with protecting defenseless 4 year old toddlers? Fantasy points be damned!

I remember when Donte Stallworth killed a guy in the offseason and was signed as a free agent and on the field the very next season.

Ahhh, the good ole days...

Now you spank your kid in a way that was acceptable when you were a kid you get season long suspension. Paddles, belts, wooden spoons and switches... I got spanked by them all and will never consider my mother an abuser. You use any of that now, well, you see what the law and society thinks of you.

The above are some examples of what not to do. Expect time off from the board to result if they continue.

 

[snogger]

so how many millions did ADP still make this year???

he was treated SOOOO unfairly, gimme a break

The point being, with or without pay, he was effectively suspended for a year without the Commish having to actually come out and say that..

Again, because of this I really can not see any reason another player will EVER allow himself to be put on the "commissioners Exempt List" again.. he just lost a bargaining chip IMO.. from here on out they are going to have to step up and make a decision right away and can't fall back on this "Out"

you want to go on this list with pay? Or you want us to suspend you without pay?

What do you do?

Problem is..

Do you suspend him while his case is waiting to be held in court.?? And if you suspend him right away, what happens if he is found not guilty or the charges are dropped??

The player just lost a lot of money that the team/league will have to pay back since he was not found guilty or the charges ended up being false.

What happens if you suspend him for 6 weeks, and after that 6 week period he hasn't had his court date, or he is found guilty.. do they suspend him for another 6 games??

And if they wait to suspend him and allow him to play, the Media Uproar will happen again as it did with this case and McDonald's..

Just seems they put themselves between a rock and hard place now after this f'up..

IMO, for PR and player future actions.. it would have been in their best interest to have ADP take the Salary he earned since he was placed on the exempt list and donate all of it to a Domestic Abuse program .

Just seems the NFL missed an opportunity for a PR move as well as save the "Exempt" list for future use..

 

[Cjw_55106]

for the record i assume the vikings are actually happy here...there's no way they are looking forward to peterson playing

There were some "rumblings" that some on executives didn't want him back.. But those were anonymous sources so could have been a Secretary of an executive for all we know.

The team themselves wanted him back and the Public opinion in the area had switched from 75% never wanting him to play for the Vikings ever again when the story and pictures first broke.. to 75% wanting him back when he pleaded "no contest" to the charges..

i do not think they are looking forward to sinking a ton of money into a national PR nightmare on a season where they have no real hope. I may be wrong, but I do not think ownership wants him back.

I was editing my response to add this when you responded:

ETA.. Don't forget.. No matter what happened here, the Vikings were about 80% sure they'd be trading him in the off season. So, in that regard, they Definitely want him to play so as to up his trade value..

Now.. Not sure what if anything they could get for him .. especially since they said they won't consider allowing him to play until a few weeks before the NFL Draft..

This seems made up, arbitrary at best.

what is?? That they were going to trade him?? He is 30+.. and currently has a $15,400,000 Cap hit for 2015, $15,000,000 for 2016 and $17,000,000 for 2017..

There was no way he was playing for the Vikings under those numbers next year.. so either he'd renegotiate(20% chance) or be traded(80% chance) and the feeling up here was that he would more then likely be traded...

Sure the % are a guess.. But it was the basic feeling up here with those in the know..

@ "in the know". Look at your first line again and tell me why another team would trade for him?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

So it would seem like he's done in Minny after this year and his situation next year has to be better than there. Where is a likely landing place? Denver would be nice!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The Union:

The NFL's decision demonstrates that a "credibility gap ... exists between the agreements they make and the actions they take,"

The Union has called Goodell a liar.

 

[KellysHeroes]

He beat the hell out of a child - who gives a rip about the commissioner's consistency here? I don't. The message is clear, in my mind: If you and an adult have a dispute - even one that involves grotesque, unnecessary and vile actions such as the Rice incident - you are still dealing with two adults. If you harm a child there will be severe consequences. Simple as that.

That's the problem, if this was the first time then most of us wouldnt mind and let it go... but he's just so inconsistent and pig headed that enough is enough

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The Union:

The NFL's decision demonstrates that a "credibility gap ... exists between the agreements they make and the actions they take,"

The Union has called Goodell a liar.

Than they should have no problem proving this. But they won't. They have to stand tall for their man.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So it would seem like he's done in Minny after this year and his situation next year has to be better than there. Where is a likely landing place? Denver would be nice!

“In order to assess your progress going forward, I will establish periodic reviews, the first of which will be on or about April 15, 2015. At that time, I will meet with you and your representatives and the NFLPA to review the extent to which you have complied with your program of counseling and therapy and both made and lived up to an affirmative commitment to change such that this conduct will not occur again. A failure to cooperate and follow your plan will result in a lengthier suspension without pay.”

Finally, Goodell noted that any further violation by Peterson could result in "banishment from the NFL."

You think he'll get with the program?

 

[IheartGuinness]

When will the appeal be? Does it seem likely his sentence will be reduced?

Bottom line...safe to drop in redraft?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The Union:

The NFL's decision demonstrates that a "credibility gap ... exists between the agreements they make and the actions they take,"

The Union has called Goodell a liar.

Than they should have no problem proving this. But they won't. They have to stand tall for their man.

The Saints 4 backed Goodell into a corner, he dropped the suspensions. Goodell got caught saying the NFL never received the Rice video then it was shown they did. Rice got a former federal judge involved and forced Goodell to testify, that decision is coming down soon.

Goodell is very close to being 0-3, he's staring at 0-4.

ETA:

NFL doesn't contradict claim AD was told games missed would be time served; says today's suspension took that into consideration.

 

[Cjw_55106]

When does the failed drug test get brought up?

 

[nastynate]

so how many millions did ADP still make this year???

he was treated SOOOO unfairly, gimme a break

The point being, with or without pay, he was effectively suspended for a year without the Commish having to actually come out and say that..

Again, because of this I really can not see any reason another player will EVER allow himself to be put on the "commissioners Exempt List" again.. he just lost a bargaining chip IMO.. from here on out they are going to have to step up and make a decision right away and can't fall back on this "Out"

you want to go on this list with pay? Or you want us to suspend you without pay?What do you do?

Problem is..Do you suspend him while his case is waiting to be held in court.?? And if you suspend him right away, what happens if he is found not guilty or the charges are dropped??

The player just lost a lot of money that the team/league will have to pay back since he was not found guilty or the charges ended up being false.

What happens if you suspend him for 6 weeks, and after that 6 week period he hasn't had his court date, or he is found guilty.. do they suspend him for another 6 games??

And if they wait to suspend him and allow him to play, the Media Uproar will happen again as it did with this case and McDonald's..

Just seems they put themselves between a rock and hard place now after this f'up..

IMO, for PR and player future actions.. it would have been in their best interest to have ADP take the Salary he earned since he was placed on the exempt list and donate all of it to a Domestic Abuse program .

Just seems the NFL missed an opportunity for a PR move as well as save the "Exempt" list for future use..

Well said. We all seem to agree that peterson deserved more than a paid leave. Taking the $, effectively suspending him would have allowed the NFL to remain consistent with the policies they just put in place.

It just seems Goodell is burning any and all Bridges he has. That's typically not the best idea...

 

[Doug B]

Bottom line...safe to drop in redraft?

IMHO, very easily.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Bottom line...safe to drop in redraft?

IMHO, very easily.

https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/534737663170215936

Depending on Shayem Dasz ruling source says it is "very possible" Adrian Peterson returns to field this weekend while appealing suspension

 

[snogger]

Bottom line...safe to drop in redraft?

IMHO, very easily.

https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/534737663170215936

Depending on Shayem Dasz ruling source says it is "very possible" Adrian Peterson returns to field this weekend while appealing suspension

and Kim K. thought her bare backside would bring down the internet.. Imagine if this is what happens this week vs. the Packers...

 

[Dondante]

Bottom line...safe to drop in redraft?

IMHO, very easily.

https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/534737663170215936

Depending on Shayem Dasz ruling source says it is "very possible" Adrian Peterson returns to field this weekend while appealing suspension

and Kim K. thought her bare backside would bring down the internet.. Imagine if this is what happens this week vs. the Packers...

No kidding. Why on earth would Minnesota do this?

 

[IndyHavoc]

Great job by Goodell. Handled the whole thing perfectly. Peterson misses the entire season, as he should have. After missing an entire season, he will be welcomed back with open arms to the NFL in 2015, as most people will feel that an entire season is enough justice for his crimes.

I agree with the suspension, however if they were going to suspend for at least the season...why wait until the legal process plays out? Why allow him to be paid for 2/3 of the season?

This is what I'm looking forward to. IMO, Goddell didn't have to use the CES to ensure that ADP got paid...but he did. The Vikings and the NFL felt that they were a bit out of their depth and decided the safest course was to get him off the field, but keep the $$ rolling to him. Now, after the dust settles comes the actual punishment. ADP and the Player's Union pitches a fit.

IMO, what needs to happen now, is that the NFL Offices go after ALL his pay for the year. Take your GD punishment like a man, and move on. Unfortunately, ADP (and his advisors) are apparently like my 10 year old with SEVERE ADHD. Can't take any responsibility or admit to doing any wrong, whatsoever.

I truly, truly hope they counter sue him for all his 2013-2014 pay. Nice job looking the gift-horse in the mouth, ADP! Nice.

 

[Jerry Curl]

And round and round we go.

ESPN's Ed Werder reports it's "very possible" Adrian Peterson returns to field Sunday while appealing his suspension.
If Peterson is removed from the Commissioner-Exempt list, he could still be eligible to play this week as he appeals his suspension. Whether the Vikings would be willing to activate him remains to be seen. Stashers need to hold on to Peterson until there's more clarity on the situation. Peterson's Exempt-list hearing will be settled no later than Saturday.
Source: Ed Werder on Twitter
Nov 18 - 11:33 AM

 

[Dondante]

Great job by Goodell. Handled the whole thing perfectly. Peterson misses the entire season, as he should have. After missing an entire season, he will be welcomed back with open arms to the NFL in 2015, as most people will feel that an entire season is enough justice for his crimes.

I agree with the suspension, however if they were going to suspend for at least the season...why wait until the legal process plays out? Why allow him to be paid for 2/3 of the season?

This is what I'm looking forward to. IMO, Goddell didn't have to use the CES to ensure that ADP got paid...but he did. The Vikings and the NFL felt that they were a bit out of their depth and decided the safest course was to get him off the field, but keep the $$ rolling to him. Now, after the dust settles comes the actual punishment. ADP and the Player's Union pitches a fit.

IMO, what needs to happen now, is that the NFL Offices go after ALL his pay for the year. Take your GD punishment like a man, and move on. Unfortunately, ADP (and his advisors) are apparently like my 10 year old with SEVERE ADHD. Can't take any responsibility or admit to doing any wrong, whatsoever.

I truly, truly hope they counter sue him for all his 2013-2014 pay. Nice job looking the gift-horse in the mouth, ADP! Nice.

Don’t forget DeMaurice Smith. He's leading the charge (as he should be given his position) in the name of precedent and the ouster of Goodell. He obviously also hates children and personal accountability.

 

[snogger]

jerome felton ✔ @jfelton45 Follow

To say I disagree would b the understatement of the year! And I hope this does away w going on the "commisioners exempt list"!!

 

[Insein]

He beat the hell out of a child - who gives a rip about the commissioner's consistency here? I don't. The message is clear, in my mind: If you and an adult have a dispute - even one that involves grotesque, unnecessary and vile actions such as the Rice incident - you are still dealing with two adults. If you harm a child there will be severe consequences. Simple as that.

Then suspend him for he year from the get go if they are so morally outraged. You know that's not what the argument is about here.

 

[RUSF18]

It really feels like Goodell deliberately kept Peterson on the Exempt List so that he could suspend Peterson for exactly 6 games and not have Peterson come back this season.

So you think Goodell and co had a hand in when Peterson and his lawyer's request for an expedited court case could be heard?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Bottom line...safe to drop in redraft?

IMHO, very easily.

https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/534737663170215936

Depending on Shayem Dasz ruling source says it is "very possible" Adrian Peterson returns to field this weekend while appealing suspension

and Kim K. thought her bare backside would bring down the internet.. Imagine if this is what happens this week vs. the Packers...

No kidding. Why on earth would Minnesota do this?

Because you play to win the game

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

It really feels like Goodell deliberately kept Peterson on the Exempt List so that he could suspend Peterson for exactly 6 games and not have Peterson come back this season.

So you think Goodell and co had a hand in when Peterson and his lawyer's request for an expedited court case could be heard?

No the NFL was probably expecting Dec. 1st, they got caught off-guard then extended the exempt list to get them over the 10 game point.

 

[Insein]

Lol at the people shaming Peterson, defending McDonald. The court of public opinion is good for one but not the other. Give me a break.

Do you want every single player accused of a crime to be suspended/shelved immediately?

That's what happened to Peterson. Mcdonalds case was resolved the same week as APs. McDonald played all year and has been able to work towards contract incentives.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Lol at the people shaming Peterson, defending McDonald. The court of public opinion is good for one but not the other. Give me a break.

Do you want every single player accused of a crime to be suspended/shelved immediately?

That's what happened to Peterson. Mcdonalds case was resolved the same week as APs. McDonald played all year and has been able to work towards contract incentives.

Did they have proof of what McDonald did? Pictures or anything similar to Petersons case?McDonald and Petersons cases don't seem similar at all to me.

 

[RUSF18]

Lol at the people shaming Peterson, defending McDonald. The court of public opinion is good for one but not the other. Give me a break.

Do you want every single player accused of a crime to be suspended/shelved immediately?

That's what happened to Peterson. Mcdonalds case was resolved the same week as APs. McDonald played all year and has been able to work towards contract incentives.

Did they have proof of what McDonald did? Pictures or anything similar to Petersons case?McDonald and Petersons cases don't seem similar at all to me.

There was also no public admission by McDonald.

 

[Insein]

When does the failed drug test get brought up?

According to the drug policy, if it was even considered, there are no games involved for a first time offense.

Marijuana discipline: The punishment for a positive test is also changing. As is the case now, a first-time offense lands the player in the substance abuse program without a suspension. The primary difference is the punishment for a second positive test: simply a two-game fine. Each additional violation receives the following progressive discipline: four-game fine, four-game suspension, 10-game suspension. A player can therefore test positive for marijuana three times without getting suspended.

 

[Insein]

Lol at the people shaming Peterson, defending McDonald. The court of public opinion is good for one but not the other. Give me a break.

Do you want every single player accused of a crime to be suspended/shelved immediately?

That's what happened to Peterson. Mcdonalds case was resolved the same week as APs. McDonald played all year and has been able to work towards contract incentives.

Did they have proof of what McDonald did? Pictures or anything similar to Petersons case?McDonald and Petersons cases don't seem similar at all to me.

Both were charged. Both cases were resolved this past week. One played since then and one didn't. This is what got them in trouble before. Do they really need pictures before they take action? If pictures came out while he was still playing, how does that look?

 

[CalBear]

so how many millions did ADP still make this year???

he was treated SOOOO unfairly, gimme a break

The point being, with or without pay, he was effectively suspended for a year without the Commish having to actually come out and say that..

Again, because of this I really can not see any reason another player will EVER allow himself to be put on the "commissioners Exempt List" again.. he just lost a bargaining chip IMO.. from here on out they are going to have to step up and make a decision right away and can't fall back on this "Out"

you want to go on this list with pay? Or you want us to suspend you without pay?

What do you do?

"You want to go on this list with pay for 10 weeks, and then get suspended for 6 weeks, or get suspended for 6 weeks now?"

If Peterson had refused to go on the list, the NFL would have had to make a ruling on discipline at that time, and it probably would have been 6 weeks, and he'd be back on the field by now.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Lol at the people shaming Peterson, defending McDonald. The court of public opinion is good for one but not the other. Give me a break.

Do you want every single player accused of a crime to be suspended/shelved immediately?

That's what happened to Peterson. Mcdonalds case was resolved the same week as APs. McDonald played all year and has been able to work towards contract incentives.

Did they have proof of what McDonald did? Pictures or anything similar to Petersons case?McDonald and Petersons cases don't seem similar at all to me.

Both were charged. Both cases were resolved this past week. One played since then and one didn't. This is what got them in trouble before. Do they really need pictures before they take action? If pictures came out while he was still playing, how does that look?

The pictures matter. A LOT. If they had pics of McDonalds wife/Gf of her all bruised with hand marks around her neck he'd be right with Ray Rice. There's not a doubt in my mind.

 

[Jerry Curl]

At this moment my belief is the league did this because they know they were screwed in the grievance hearing and know he was about to play, the league knew he was going to play and that if they suspended AP he would appeal and play anyways so the league is using this as a way to make it look like they are trying everything, and they are.

 

[KellysHeroes]

At this moment my belief is the league did this because they know they were screwed in the grievance hearing and know he was about to play, the league knew he was going to play and that if they suspended AP he would appeal and play anyways so the league is using this as a way to make it look like they are trying everything, and they are.

the climate has changed on the NFL, their the bad guys now. I would be shocked if this holds up.

 

[Insein]

Lol at the people shaming Peterson, defending McDonald. The court of public opinion is good for one but not the other. Give me a break.

Do you want every single player accused of a crime to be suspended/shelved immediately?

That's what happened to Peterson. Mcdonalds case was resolved the same week as APs. McDonald played all year and has been able to work towards contract incentives.

Did they have proof of what McDonald did? Pictures or anything similar to Petersons case?McDonald and Petersons cases don't seem similar at all to me.

Both were charged. Both cases were resolved this past week. One played since then and one didn't. This is what got them in trouble before. Do they really need pictures before they take action? If pictures came out while he was still playing, how does that look?

The pictures matter. A LOT. If they had pics of McDonalds wife/Gf of her all bruised with hand marks around her neck he'd be right with Ray Rice. There's not a doubt in my mind.

Sure before Ray Rice, that would be true. After that happened, is it smart to play Russian roulette with the media hunting for those pics while you await his trial result?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

At this moment my belief is the league did this because they know they were screwed in the grievance hearing and know he was about to play, the league knew he was going to play and that if they suspended AP he would appeal and play anyways so the league is using this as a way to make it look like they are trying everything, and they are.

the climate has changed on the NFL, their the bad guys now. I would be shocked if this holds up.

How on earth is the nfl the bad guys now?? Sheesh

 

[mnmplayer]

Man, all the wasted time of the internet lawyers arguing the semantics of the linguistical meaning of the words in the CBA. This is a PR problem, not a legal one. The lawyers can argue until they are blue in the face, and some might even have merit, but there was no way the commissioner was going to let AP play, and if somehow, someway AP does make his way onto the field it won't be by his doing. It will be the Players Association that will get the "Wraith of Khan" libs attacking them until they relent at the last second. There is too much at stake, too much NFL money to be lost, too much attention to NFL's misdeeds in the past. Only a myopic rotoworld fantasy football type would have thought AP was coming back this season.

There has been a strategy to keep AP off the field and it is no coincidence to the timing of this densely written victim piece. NYT needs to sell their rag of a newspaper too and this is the kind of froth that sells newspapers, "big ugly athlete getting all the rules bent for his sake, and the victim pays the price, over and over."

Just read this article and tell me how RG frees AP to play this year?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/sports/football/an-accusation-of-abuse-then-special-treatment-for-nfl-player.html?partner=rss&_r=0

Do you realize the kind of PR wraith that would follow if Rice or AP played again this year? RG is backed into a corner especially after the Ray Rice deal. This is PR and PR associated all these events together even if semantics says each case stands on its own. NFL is under PR damage control right now. Live with it.