Adrian Peterson (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

Prior to his injury, Peterson was a strong RB1 even while in a timeshare with Chester Taylor. But after returning from his injury, he had a great first game back but then stunk up the joint rather badly in his final month. He did score twice in Week 15 but in Weeks 14, 16 and 17 he was nothing short of putrid. The fact Taylor managed to look much better in that same time frame didn't help him any.

So what do people think about Peterson at this very early juncture in terms of projecting for 2008? Obviously, if Taylor is gone Peterson will be a Top 10 pick without question. But if Taylor remains does his extremely poor finish to his rookie season damper any of the enthusiasm people had for him previously? Prior to the injury, he was easily a first-round pick but after watching him the last month and seeing how much time he spends watching Taylor (and even Mewelde Moore today), I'm wondering if he isn't someone who may be over-valued going into next year.

A lot can change between now and next season but for the sake of discussion let's assume Taylor returns and Peterson remains in a timeshare. Where do you think he should be drafted based on what he did as a rookie and given what we saw in the closing month of the season?

 

[Phurfur]

No, I never drank the kool-aid. I never crown someone on potential. I do think he will improve and become a good RB.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

2 huge games where the o-line was opening HUGE holes was not enough for me to drink the koolaid, especially when you look at what Chester did with AP out. I'm really hoping that people overspend for him next year.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Prior to his injury, Peterson was a strong RB1 even while in a timeshare with Chester Taylor. But after returning from his injury, he had a great first game back but then stunk up the joint rather badly in his final month. He did score twice in Week 15 but in Weeks 14, 16 and 17 he was nothing short of putrid. The fact Taylor managed to look much better in that same time frame didn't help him any.

So what do people think about Peterson at this very early juncture in terms of projecting for 2008? Obviously, if Taylor is gone Peterson will be a Top 10 pick without question. But if Taylor remains does his extremely poor finish to his rookie season damper any of the enthusiasm people had for him previously? Prior to the injury, he was easily a first-round pick but after watching him the last month and seeing how much time he spends watching Taylor (and even Mewelde Moore today), I'm wondering if he isn't someone who may be over-valued going into next year.

A lot can change between now and next season but for the sake of discussion let's assume Taylor returns and Peterson remains in a timeshare. Where do you think he should be drafted based on what he did as a rookie and given what we saw in the closing month of the season?

There you go.He got hurt. He didn't forget how to run the ball. I certainly didn't forget that he didn't forget how to run the ball.If anything watch him get undervalued. All it takes is some people to talk up LT, Westbrook, Steven Jackson and Addai as the top 4 backs. Now if some clowns actually think that Tom Brady and Randy Moss are going to repeat their 2007 seasons AD could end up getting drafted in the mid 1st round of drafts and that my friend would be a steal.

 

[teamroc]

I'm so confused.

So is he, or isn't he the best RB in the history of the NFL?

I can't keep up.

 

[packersfan]

Prior to his injury, Peterson was a strong RB1 even while in a timeshare with Chester Taylor. But after returning from his injury, he had a great first game back but then stunk up the joint rather badly in his final month. He did score twice in Week 15 but in Weeks 14, 16 and 17 he was nothing short of putrid. The fact Taylor managed to look much better in that same time frame didn't help him any.

So what do people think about Peterson at this very early juncture in terms of projecting for 2008? Obviously, if Taylor is gone Peterson will be a Top 10 pick without question. But if Taylor remains does his extremely poor finish to his rookie season damper any of the enthusiasm people had for him previously? Prior to the injury, he was easily a first-round pick but after watching him the last month and seeing how much time he spends watching Taylor (and even Mewelde Moore today), I'm wondering if he isn't someone who may be over-valued going into next year.

A lot can change between now and next season but for the sake of discussion let's assume Taylor returns and Peterson remains in a timeshare. Where do you think he should be drafted based on what he did as a rookie and given what we saw in the closing month of the season?

There you go.He got hurt. He didn't forget how to run the ball. I certainly didn't forget that he didn't forget how to run the ball.If anything watch him get undervalued. All it takes is some people to talk up LT, Westbrook, Steven Jackson and Addai as the top 4 backs. Now if some clowns actually think that Tom Brady and Randy Moss are going to repeat their 2007 seasons AD could end up getting drafted in the mid 1st round of drafts and that my friend would be a steal.

He didn't look hurt to me in the last four weeks. I like Peterson a lot. I'm a huge fan but the bottom line is he looked downright awful for most of the final month. Taylor ran behind the same line against the same defenses and looked A LOT better much of the time. Personally, I think the Vikings should trade Taylor for a draft pick and try to address some of their other needs but if they decide to keep him, I'm not sure Peterson should be regarded as a RB1 next season. He wasn't even a RB3 in the last month of the season. He looked pretty sad today against a horrible Denver run defense that Taylor (and even Moore in his two carries) had no trouble picking up big yardage against.Taylor's presence, combined with how Childress is using both (Peterson a complete non-factor in the passing game, for example) should keep AD outside the Top 15 picks next season if we were drafting today. But I'm guessing he'll go Top 10 even if Taylor returns. I'm not sure that's the wise move to make.

 

[Phurfur]

Prior to his injury, Peterson was a strong RB1 even while in a timeshare with Chester Taylor. But after returning from his injury, he had a great first game back but then stunk up the joint rather badly in his final month. He did score twice in Week 15 but in Weeks 14, 16 and 17 he was nothing short of putrid. The fact Taylor managed to look much better in that same time frame didn't help him any.

So what do people think about Peterson at this very early juncture in terms of projecting for 2008? Obviously, if Taylor is gone Peterson will be a Top 10 pick without question. But if Taylor remains does his extremely poor finish to his rookie season damper any of the enthusiasm people had for him previously? Prior to the injury, he was easily a first-round pick but after watching him the last month and seeing how much time he spends watching Taylor (and even Mewelde Moore today), I'm wondering if he isn't someone who may be over-valued going into next year.

A lot can change between now and next season but for the sake of discussion let's assume Taylor returns and Peterson remains in a timeshare. Where do you think he should be drafted based on what he did as a rookie and given what we saw in the closing month of the season?

There you go.He got hurt. He didn't forget how to run the ball. I certainly didn't forget that he didn't forget how to run the ball.If anything watch him get undervalued. All it takes is some people to talk up LT, Westbrook, Steven Jackson and Addai as the top 4 backs. Now if some clowns actually think that Tom Brady and Randy Moss are going to repeat their 2007 seasons AD could end up getting drafted in the mid 1st round of drafts and that my friend would be a steal.

I think he will go mid 1st. It is hard to put a guy in the top 5 with a season like this. Right now he is suicide in H2H leagues, his value in total points leagues is much greater.

 

[snogger]

Vikings get a a legit QB who can keep teams from putting 8 or 9 in the box each play than he rises.

They go into next season with the same ole at QB and no change at Offensive Coordinator than he drops.

 

[packersfan]

Prior to his injury, Peterson was a strong RB1 even while in a timeshare with Chester Taylor. But after returning from his injury, he had a great first game back but then stunk up the joint rather badly in his final month. He did score twice in Week 15 but in Weeks 14, 16 and 17 he was nothing short of putrid. The fact Taylor managed to look much better in that same time frame didn't help him any.

So what do people think about Peterson at this very early juncture in terms of projecting for 2008? Obviously, if Taylor is gone Peterson will be a Top 10 pick without question. But if Taylor remains does his extremely poor finish to his rookie season damper any of the enthusiasm people had for him previously? Prior to the injury, he was easily a first-round pick but after watching him the last month and seeing how much time he spends watching Taylor (and even Mewelde Moore today), I'm wondering if he isn't someone who may be over-valued going into next year.

A lot can change between now and next season but for the sake of discussion let's assume Taylor returns and Peterson remains in a timeshare. Where do you think he should be drafted based on what he did as a rookie and given what we saw in the closing month of the season?

There you go.He got hurt. He didn't forget how to run the ball. I certainly didn't forget that he didn't forget how to run the ball.If anything watch him get undervalued. All it takes is some people to talk up LT, Westbrook, Steven Jackson and Addai as the top 4 backs. Now if some clowns actually think that Tom Brady and Randy Moss are going to repeat their 2007 seasons AD could end up getting drafted in the mid 1st round of drafts and that my friend would be a steal.

I think he will go mid 1st. It is hard to put a guy in the top 5 with a season like this. Right now he is suicide in H2H leagues, his value in total points leagues is much greater.

I'm in a total points league and depending on what my guys do tonight, Peterson could end up costing me a lot of dough. So yea, I'm a little bitter about how pathetic he's been. And I know.

 

[Loopdog]

im so tired of the whole 8 man in the box thing.

What defense DOESN'T put 8 in the box on pretty much every play? Please.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Vikings get a a legit QB who can keep teams from putting 8 or 9 in the box each play than he rises. They go into next season with the same ole at QB and no change at Offensive Coordinator than he drops.

Bingo.That will be a deal breaker or deal sealer for me. Jackson is an absolute abortion at the QB position and they might as well let the opposing defenses in the huddle with them the last few games. I don't think I have ever seen defenses sell out against the run like they did when AP was in the game. I think he has all of the abilty in the world, but until those two things change he will be very inconsistent.

 

[packersfan]

im so tired of the whole 8 man in the box thing. What defense DOESN'T put 8 in the box on pretty much every play? Please.

Agreed. And that's especially true against the Vikings - who haven't had a decent passing game for most of the season. Peterson saw 8 men in the box in the first half of the season and tore them up. Taylor saw eight men in the box and tore them up. That excuse doesn't fly with me. The bottom line is he stunk to close out the season. The question is does that fact alter where he should be ranked in 2008 assuming Taylor is still a Viking?

 

[Banger]

Vikings get a a legit QB who can keep teams from putting 8 or 9 in the box each play than he rises. They go into next season with the same ole at QB and no change at Offensive Coordinator than he drops.

That's it in a nutshell.

 

[AB in DC]

He's got to go top 3 in most redrafts next year. Who would you take above him? LT, sure, maybe Westbrook, but who else?

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

im so tired of the whole 8 man in the box thing.

What defense DOESN'T put 8 in the box on pretty much every play? Please.

Agreed. And that's especially true against the Vikings - who haven't had a decent passing game for most of the season. Peterson saw 8 men in the box in the first half of the season and tore them up. Taylor saw eight men in the box and tore them up. That excuse doesn't fly with me. The bottom line is he stunk to close out the season. The question is does that fact alter where he should be ranked in 2008 assuming Taylor is still a Viking?

Do you REALLY believe that Taylor sees as many 8-man fronts as AP? I'd love to see some actual analysis of this - since basically, your view is purely speculation. Logically, most sensible people would expect to see the defense stack the box with higher frequency against the more talented RB - in this case, AP. I appreciate the debate that you're trying to have, but anyone who has watched MN play this entire season has watched a special player - AP - and a solid RB - Taylor - running behind a really good O-line.

But it gets annoying to see you continually assert that AP has played poorly. It's just ridiculous.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

He's got to go top 3 in most redrafts next year. Who would you take above him? LT, sure, maybe Westbrook, but who else?

LTSjacksonAddaiWestyADP

 

[BobbyLayne]

He's got to go top 3 in most redrafts next year. Who would you take above him? LT, sure, maybe Westbrook, but who else?

LTSjacksonAddaiWestyADP

On my targeted list, I will have him below those 4 plus MBIII and Lynch.Has nothing to do with talent; it's the situation.

 

[packersfan]

But it gets annoying to see you continually assert that AP has played poorly. It's just ridiculous.

Here is what Peterson did in the last four games of the season:14-3-020-78-29-27-011-36-0That's 54 carries for 144 yards, an average of 2.7 yards per carry.Feel free to use another adjective but I can't see how anyone could look at that production and consider it something other than poor.

 

[packersfan]

He's got to go top 3 in most redrafts next year. Who would you take above him? LT, sure, maybe Westbrook, but who else?

LTSjacksonAddaiWestyADP

Not to be a homer but if Ryan Grant remains the Green Bay starter I'd consider him ahead of Peterson. If Barber is the starter in Dallas, I'd consider him ahead of Peterson as well. Gore, McGahee, Portis and possibly Parker, Lynch and Graham also deserve consideration as well in my opinion.

 

[Gopher State]

Here's my take being a MN homer I admit to being somewhat Pro-Vikings:

A.P. was not the same after the knee injury, he didn't have the same burst, he be fine after resting in the off-season.

Jackson, were stuck with him, he did improve at times during the season, it usually takes 3 to 4 years for a QB to figure out the NFL game, I will reserve judgement about Jackson until next year.

I also think the lack of WR's effected the QB play as much as anything, Williamson was bad again and will be gone, Bobby Wade, well was Bobby Wade, a #4WR on most teams. Rice was coming along nicely unit he got hurt, he will be better next year, Allison the other rookie WR will be a nice #3 wr. The thing the Vikings need most is a WR who can be their game breaker, I see the vikes going after B. Johnson AZ, or Berrian Bears, in the off season, this will help Jackson.

The o-line is good, the run def is the best in the NFL. The pass D will be addressed in the off season.

Getting back to A.P., if the vikes get a decent FA WR, assuming A.P's knee is fine, & Jackson improves somewhat, i.e. throw the ball away instead of forcing it, and looking at more then one WR, A.P. will be a top #3 FF RB IMO.

 

[urbanhack]

But it gets annoying to see you continually assert that AP has played poorly. It's just ridiculous.

Here is what Peterson did in the last four games of the season:14-3-020-78-29-27-011-36-0That's 54 carries for 144 yards, an average of 2.7 yards per carry.Feel free to use another adjective but I can't see how anyone could look at that production and consider it something other than poor.

That's also only 13 carries a game for a #1 running back on a team fighting for the playoffs. ADP showed me enough this season to believe that he could be the #1 fantasy RB in the league. However, Brad Childress, the MN playing callin,g and the offensive coordinator have me concerned.They've shown they don't have a clue how to effectively use this guy. What he did in his big games was on pure talent alone and good blocking by the O-line. Teams countered to stop him and the Vikings did not counter in return to figure out different ways to get him the ball. How about 4 wide spread em out and run ADP up the gut? I never saw this play once. How many passes did he catch this year?

 

[packersfan]

But it gets annoying to see you continually assert that AP has played poorly. It's just ridiculous.

Here is what Peterson did in the last four games of the season:14-3-020-78-29-27-011-36-0That's 54 carries for 144 yards, an average of 2.7 yards per carry.Feel free to use another adjective but I can't see how anyone could look at that production and consider it something other than poor.

That's also only 13 carries a game for a #1 running back on a team fighting for the playoffs. ADP showed me enough this season to believe that he could be the #1 fantasy RB in the league. However, Brad Childress, the MN playing callin,g and the offensive coordinator have me concerned.They've shown they don't have a clue how to effectively use this guy. What he did in his big games was on pure talent alone and good blocking by the O-line. Teams countered to stop him and the Vikings did not counter in return to figure out different ways to get him the ball. How about 4 wide spread em out and run ADP up the gut? I never saw this play once. How many passes did he catch this year?

This is part of what I'm talking about as well. He averaged 13 carries a game in the last month. If Taylor returns, is it not possible we see more of this timeshare again? The point is Peterson was a RB1 for much of the season but he ended it being about a RB4 or RB5. What I'm asking is how that poor finish will impact his ranking for next season. If people feel it shouldn't, I'd be interested in the reason why. I'm just not sure you can take him as a RB1 if Taylor is still around and especially since Peterson is a non-factor in the passing game.

 

[Nugget]

I like AD, but he'll never end up on a team of mine. Someone else will value him way more than I do, and I'm not going to reach for him. He has talent, but I fear his consistency. Between a percieved injury history, team, scheme, coach, I will not give him top 3 consideration for a redraft. And how much would he cost in a dynasty league? It is doubtful a straight up LT or Westbrook deal would fetch him. Best of luck to him unless he is playing the Chiefs.

 

[PennStater77]

Lets see, He will have Childress as his coach, Jackson as his QB, and Taylor breathing down his neck..

No Thank You..

 

[Judge Smails]

My eyes don't lie. This kid was a beast with moves/vision/speed seen only with the great ones. I don't care if it was 1 game, let alone 12. The goods are the goods - and ADP is the goods. Looked as dominating as LT. He was not 100% - that was obvious. The injury history is a concern though.

 

[Tanner9919]

I'm so confused.So is he, or isn't he the best RB in the history of the NFL?I can't keep up.

he's the best injury-prone RB in the history of the NFL. LOLwhen/if the Vikings sign or trade for McNabb, then you'll see AD's #'s be more consistent, defenses will have to respect the passing game more.

 

[PantherPower]

I just hope I can find some poor sucker to dump him on in the 3 dynasty leagues I own him...

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

But it gets annoying to see you continually assert that AP has played poorly. It's just ridiculous.

Here is what Peterson did in the last four games of the season:14-3-020-78-29-27-011-36-0That's 54 carries for 144 yards, an average of 2.7 yards per carry.Feel free to use another adjective but I can't see how anyone could look at that production and consider it something other than poor.

2 words: Rookie wall. Happens to the best of 'em. Avoid at your own peril. He did still lead the NFC in rushing by the way.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

I just hope I can find some poor sucker to dump him on in the 3 dynasty leagues I own him...

Sarcasm?

 

[RBM]

Rookie wall and not 100% from the injury.

He will be right there with LT and Sjax next year, top 3 backs in football.

 

[Utter Chaos]

I'm in a league where we keep 1 player for 2008 and lose the draft pick he was taken in 2007.

I was all set to keep Peterson as a 4th rounder but now I'm seriousily considering keeping Marion Barber as a 6th rounder.

 

[Couch Potato]

This is beautiful. Some FF players in this thread are running from him after a few down games like rats escaping a sinking ship. Unreal.

Some guys just never learn.

Write it on your foreheads with a magic marker if you have to ==> DON'T THINK SHORT TERM!

 

[EdwardCat]

Either his performance early in the season was a fluke or something drastically changed in the latter half of the season. He looked awesome when he came back against Detroit. If you recall, he did say his knee was acting up after that game. A player does not simply stop having talent. A player does not simply set the single game rushing record. So, to put it simply, the end of this season is most likely not indicative of what his long term value will be. He got injured...a serious injury. He came back after only two games. Defenses honed in on him given there are few options for the Vikings outside of Peterson. While it does make me nervous, I'm confident he will come back next year and be as dominant as his performance indicated early in the year.

 

[jonessed]

He wouldn't be the first RB that couldn't hold up under a full season carries. It's not an easy thing to do. Sometimes you have to play through aches and pains. Chester was doing great in the same games ADP couldn't get anything started. He didn't look injured, he looked tired.

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

He wouldn't be the first RB that couldn't hold up under a full season carries. It's not an easy thing to do. Sometimes you have to play through aches and pains. Chester was doing great in the same games ADP couldn't get anything started. He didn't look injured, he looked tired.

Rookie....Wall.....

 

[Burning Sensation]

He probably falls somewhere between what he did the first half, and the 2nd half. He is still top 5 dynasty back, but he is not the Superman most of us thought he was. I am glad I didnt trade SJax for him earlier in the year.

 

[Phurfur]

Vikings get a a legit QB who can keep teams from putting 8 or 9 in the box each play than he rises.

They go into next season with the same ole at QB and no change at Offensive Coordinator than he drops.

They could use a WR too!

im so tired of the whole 8 man in the box thing.

What defense DOESN'T put 8 in the box on pretty much every play? Please.

Agreed. And that's especially true against the Vikings - who haven't had a decent passing game for most of the season. Peterson saw 8 men in the box in the first half of the season and tore them up. Taylor saw eight men in the box and tore them up. That excuse doesn't fly with me. The bottom line is he stunk to close out the season. The question is does that fact alter where he should be ranked in 2008 assuming Taylor is still a Viking?

Do you REALLY believe that Taylor sees as many 8-man fronts as AP? I'd love to see some actual analysis of this - since basically, your view is purely speculation. Logically, most sensible people would expect to see the defense stack the box with higher frequency against the more talented RB - in this case, AP. I appreciate the debate that you're trying to have, but anyone who has watched MN play this entire season has watched a special player - AP - and a solid RB - Taylor - running behind a really good O-line.

But it gets annoying to see you continually assert that AP has played poorly. It's just ridiculous.

He is averaging 2.6 YPC in the last 4 games.

 

[gianmarco]

This is beautiful. Some FF players in this thread are running from him after a few down games like rats escaping a sinking ship. Unreal. Some guys just never learn. Write it on your foreheads with a magic marker if you have to ==> DON'T THINK SHORT TERM!

I am utterly amazed at the # of people here bailing on this guy. I can only pray this sentiment is the majority going into next season.3 sub-par games after an injury vs. 11 stellar games and now the guy is chopped liver.Let me say that I own ADP in 2 dynasty leagues and am worried all of 0% about him, his talent, his production, and his situation. EVERY player that has ever played has had a bad streak and bad games. You guys should really go back and watch some game film to remind yourselves this kid is something VERY special.

 

[Phurfur]

This is beautiful. Some FF players in this thread are running from him after a few down games like rats escaping a sinking ship. Unreal. Some guys just never learn. Write it on your foreheads with a magic marker if you have to ==> DON'T THINK SHORT TERM!

I am utterly amazed at the # of people here bailing on this guy. I can only pray this sentiment is the majority going into next season.3 sub-par games after an injury vs. 11 stellar games and now the guy is chopped liver.Let me say that I own ADP in 2 dynasty leagues and am worried all of 0% about him, his talent, his production, and his situation. EVERY player that has ever played has had a bad streak and bad games. You guys should really go back and watch some game film to remind yourselves this kid is something VERY special.

People are not down on him, they just don't think he is a top 2 pick in a redraft.

 

[Couch Potato]

This is beautiful. Some FF players in this thread are running from him after a few down games like rats escaping a sinking ship. Unreal. Some guys just never learn. Write it on your foreheads with a magic marker if you have to ==> DON'T THINK SHORT TERM!

I am utterly amazed at the # of people here bailing on this guy. I can only pray this sentiment is the majority going into next season.3 sub-par games after an injury vs. 11 stellar games and now the guy is chopped liver.Let me say that I own ADP in 2 dynasty leagues and am worried all of 0% about him, his talent, his production, and his situation. EVERY player that has ever played has had a bad streak and bad games. You guys should really go back and watch some game film to remind yourselves this kid is something VERY special.

People are not down on him, they just don't think he is a top 2 pick in a redraft.

Sorry guy. Not thinking he's a top 2 pick doesn't equal what you said in post #2 above: "No, I never drank the kool-aid. I never crown someone on potential. I do think he will improve and become a good RB."At least keep your story straight within the same thread.

 

[jonessed]

This is beautiful. Some FF players in this thread are running from him after a few down games like rats escaping a sinking ship. Unreal. Some guys just never learn. Write it on your foreheads with a magic marker if you have to ==> DON'T THINK SHORT TERM!

I am utterly amazed at the # of people here bailing on this guy. I can only pray this sentiment is the majority going into next season.3 sub-par games after an injury vs. 11 stellar games and now the guy is chopped liver.Let me say that I own ADP in 2 dynasty leagues and am worried all of 0% about him, his talent, his production, and his situation. EVERY player that has ever played has had a bad streak and bad games. You guys should really go back and watch some game film to remind yourselves this kid is something VERY special.

People are not down on him, they just don't think he is a top 2 pick in a redraft.

Sorry guy. Not thinking he's a top 2 pick doesn't equal what you said in post #2 above: "No, I never drank the kool-aid. I never crown someone on potential. I do think he will improve and become a good RB."At least keep your story straight within the same thread.

He said he was a good RB, but not top 2. That's pretty consistent

 

[gregjcross]

He will repeat both elements of what he did this year in 2008 esp. if Chester Taylor is around. He will be both great and average from week to week. Of course, people are going to overrate him because he looks so good when he is on.

This is beautiful. Some FF players in this thread are running from him after a few down games like rats escaping a sinking ship. Unreal. Some guys just never learn. Write it on your foreheads with a magic marker if you have to ==> DON'T THINK SHORT TERM!

I am utterly amazed at the # of people here bailing on this guy. I can only pray this sentiment is the majority going into next season.3 sub-par games after an injury vs. 11 stellar games and now the guy is chopped liver.Let me say that I own ADP in 2 dynasty leagues and am worried all of 0% about him, his talent, his production, and his situation. EVERY player that has ever played has had a bad streak and bad games. You guys should really go back and watch some game film to remind yourselves this kid is something VERY special.

People are not down on him, they just don't think he is a top 2 pick in a redraft.

Sorry guy. Not thinking he's a top 2 pick doesn't equal what you said in post #2 above: "No, I never drank the kool-aid. I never crown someone on potential. I do think he will improve and become a good RB."At least keep your story straight within the same thread.

He said he was a good RB, but not top 2. That's pretty consistent

 

[malice]

I believe he'll be fine- for a rookie, he far surpassed expectations. Now it's up to the coaching staff to work on making him an even better all-around player. Right now, when he's in there, the defense really only has to worry about ADP to the left or ADP to the right. As long as you can afford to put two defensive guys in a spy-type role, he's contained. If they can work on his blocking, that should make defenses play up so they can pass. If they can pass to him on the run, he'll be even more dangerous. The passes he hasn't been able to catch are where he has to run out and stop.

Taylor probably should stay...but what they really need to do is ditch Ferguson and Williamson. Roll with Rice and Wade as #1/#2 (maybe try for Stokley in the offseason as #3/slot). Ditch Shiancoe- either get a TE that can be a solid blocker and utilize Taylor/ADP as part-time receivers, or get a TE with hands instead of bricks. That should take a good deal of the pressure off T.Jackson and as long as you have a capable backup (hell, even Todd Collins is looking decent in WAS), ADP will see his opportunities open up again. The regression of the QB play and inconsistent play by the defense leading to playing more from behind than ahead hurt ADP as much as anything else down the stretch.

 

[Jayrod]

Let's see here.....

Owns single game rushing record as a rookie.

Led the NFC in rushing despite missing time as a rookie.

Put up over 1500 yards and scored 13 touchdowns in 13 games AS A ROOKIE. (that's over 100 yds & 1 TD per game for all of you geniuses)

Was actually splitting carries while doing all of this and had a bad QB behind him and subpar WR's.

Yeah....no way this guy should be a top 3 draft pick in next year's FF drafts.

And at someone mentioning Ryan Grant and Earnest Graham as fantasy peers to ADP.

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

Let's see here.....Owns single game rushing record as a rookie.Led the NFC in rushing despite missing time as a rookie.Put up over 1500 yards and scored 13 touchdowns in 13 games AS A ROOKIE. (that's over 100 yds & 1 TD per game for all of you geniuses)Was actually splitting carries while doing all of this and had a bad QB behind him and subpar WR's.Yeah....no way this guy should be a top 3 draft pick in next year's FF drafts. And at someone mentioning Ryan Grant and Earnest Graham as fantasy peers to ADP.

If I had the #1 pick in my redraft league next year, I would take ADP without hesitation. Unfotunately, I'm picking #4 and he should be long gone by then.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Let's see here.....Owns single game rushing record as a rookie.Led the NFC in rushing despite missing time as a rookie.Put up over 1500 yards and scored 13 touchdowns in 13 games AS A ROOKIE. (that's over 100 yds & 1 TD per game for all of you geniuses)Was actually splitting carries while doing all of this and had a bad QB behind him and subpar WR's.Yeah....no way this guy should be a top 3 draft pick in next year's FF drafts. And at someone mentioning Ryan Grant and Earnest Graham as fantasy peers to ADP.

Have watched a lot of football for the past 30 years or so and have seen many of the greats. I have watched with extra interest, LT for the past four years since I have him ina a keeper and I have never, ever seen a guy play a game like ADP did against the Chargers when he set that record. The man is special. There where a lot of factors leading to a decline that have already been pointed out but to think that anyone lets this guy slip past three or four at most is crazy, We have just witnessed his floor this year. Imagine the ceiling?

 

[JayMan]

In 'normal' scoring systems... he was 3rd in point scoring (and in PPG also - with R. Brown soaring there)... You can make a case for having SJax and/or LJ in the mix (along with LT, Westy and Addai obvisouly)... but I don't think we can expect his numbers to go down much: his situation can't get any worst (coach, RBBC, no QB/WR threat), he can only get healthier, he's a young pup, he probably has learned this year about the long NFL season... I can't find any good argument right now to think his numbers would fall next year compared to this season - and he was 3rd this year!

The only downfall (compared to other RB1s) might be the 'all or nothing' weeks the situation presents... but, in FF world 'banners fly high' - I would gladly let him ride my team to a few championships... You win with Faulk, Holmes, Tomlinson...

 

[JayMan]

14 RBs had better first season FFwise than ADP...

In a nutshell, in my opinion - for their careeers:

Booms: EDickerson, EJames, CPortis, FTaylor, CMartin, BSanders, GSayers, MFaulk;

OKs: CWarner, GRogers, OAnderson, HWalker;

Busts: BSims, MAnderson.

I like his chances...

 

[pizzatyme]

Just a whatif....

McNabb and Chad Johnson found their way to the Vikes. Mr. Peterson would realize his wonderful potential.

 

[Tom Baker]

He's a Hall of Famer, the best back in the league, and quite probably the best to ever play the game. Here's the memo:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=355997