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Adrian Peterson (1 Viewer)
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OU#1
Footballguy
LOL @ anybody who traded away the #1 RB in the NFL.
If you listend to Bloom or anybody else who said that then you deserve what you got.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
That's pretty much what I was saying. You're exactly right and now I'm going to have to hope it doesn't cost me too much.
Squintz82
Footballguy
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Mash
Footballguy
his owners are very lucky frazier had the guts to call that run, or his game is a dud and it's basically over already. the game scripts are going to be horrible for Peterson. He might overcome a few with big games, but this is what you're looking at as a Peterson owner going forward. Praying that he gets a lot of use in a hurry up drive (which has accounted for the team's only offensive TD so far)69 total yards and a beast mode TD at half. Yea, I think I'll keep him.The Vikings were in those games from beginning to end. The OL was opening holes. The team didn't look morose and uninterested in playing hard. The schedule is also not going to help here:Bloom - AP had 328 rushing yards, 7 receptions, 35 receiving yards and 3TDs in 3 games with Ponder this year. I respect your prognostications, but take a deep breath. Everything is going to be ooookkkk.If they are smart enough to take their loss of 3M and just not play Freeman again, maybe it gets slightly better. But Ponder has been so bad that they signed Freeman...I like Ponder coming back but that was terrible with Freeman under center and if that returns...@ Bloom suggesting to bail on Peterson. Seems like a significant overreaction
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Instead of having blind faith in Peterson to overcome all of these factors working against him, why not turn him into an elite RB1 with some factors actually working in their factor, in addition to outstanding talent. I'm surprised that this is being met with so much resistance.
blake
Footballguy
Nah, Bloom clearly said over and over not to trade Peterson for "whatever you can get" like the poster above is whining about, but to trade him for comparable value, i.e. elite RB value like a Lynch, Forte, Charles, Bush, Lacy, etc. I'm sure Sigmund would never advocate giving away Peterson for 25 cents on the dollar.
NREC34
Footballguy
OU#1
Footballguy
He was foolish enough to recommend trading away the #1 RB in the NFL. FF or otherwise, that is a mistake.
blake
Footballguy
We'll have to agree to disagree. And I'm doubtful anyone would consider Peterson the #1 RB in the NFL for fantasy. Jamaal Charles this year, yes...but not Peterson. That said, I couldn't agree more with Bloom before this week, and I'm sure many others did too. One great week is awful nice, but it doesn't change the overriding problem. Trading Peterson for another elite back is definitely not a mistake and certainly very far from foolish. Instead, it is very prudent. The fact is, other elite backs don't have the obstacles Peterson does, but since owners of those elite backs likely know the same thing, Peterson owners, and I'm one of them, are likely stuck with him. Today's game was a real sigh of relief though.
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scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
3 for 3 trade but Peterson was basically traded away for Forte......and I'm feeling remorse.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Peterson had a fantastic day with all those "obstacles" intact. I don't feel my decision was all that prudent at the moment. Maybe my mind will change tomorrow night after seeing Forte but right now I'm kicking myself for falling for other's opinions which right now look very foolish indeed.
gcmmidwest
Footballguy
yeah yeah call me stupid or whatever ..,but i'm another panicked owner next week sea. gb.,chi. just don't see him tearing it up.A good player on a horrid team
gonna try & trade him straight up for aj green.
kinda curious to see if he accepts.
my other rb's r.bush,ivory,ellington,a.brown
gonna try & trade him straight up for aj green.
kinda curious to see if he accepts.
my other rb's r.bush,ivory,ellington,a.brown
Squintz82
Footballguy
Stacy just tore up Seattle, and when has Chicago been a good run defense? It's not 2012.
gcmmidwest
Footballguy
JShare87
Footballguy
Pretty sure he torched all 3 of those teams last season.
JShare87
Footballguy
I just looked up the stats from those 3 teams you mentioned. In the 5 games he played those teams last year he averaged 170 yards rushing and had 7 tds. I know it's a different year but he's AP he is matchup proof. Don't trade him for AJ.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
One thing and maybe the only thing that could possibly worry me about Peterson down the stretch:
- The Vikes will likely bring Freeman back in. And that will bring everything to a complete halt, running game and all.
Nothing to do about it, because ADP is not going anywhere, but there it is.
- The Vikes will likely bring Freeman back in. And that will bring everything to a complete halt, running game and all.
Nothing to do about it, because ADP is not going anywhere, but there it is.
CariocaSean
Footballguy
I think this is highly unlikely. Not after the way he played against the Giants. He has fallen to third on the depth chart. Ponder isn't particularly good either, but he has played some of the best football of his career in recent weeks.
Warrior
Footballguy
No clue what makes you think they'll bring him in. Almost no chance that happens.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Thanks, it was the events last week. Benched vs Seattle, then Frazier had to announce a starter. And of course the money spent on Freeman.
Actually I've had the impression Ponder was playing better as well, only that the Vikes would try to "see what they have" with the QB they had spent so much to get. Ironically I guess they will just draft a QB next year anyway.
Mash
Footballguy
300+ yards in 2 games since this post. Still ranked above Forte and Lynch (and after today's games, McCoy), the primary targets you suggested acquiring for him a few weeks ago. You don't trade a machine, no matter how bad the QB situation may seem.
donkshow
Footballguy
Cannot believe he didn't get a TD. Worked so hard on so many drives.211 yards today. Not bad for a washed up old man.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
He's past his trade window in dynasty so just ride him till the wheels fall off.
Shutout
Footballguy
I agree, primarily, but I bet you there are some leagues where you can still sell him for a mint.
cstu
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I thought I might just try taking a new tack on the Adrian Peterson saga.
This is an old player based thread, maybe it's time to move on and talk about where he's going now and when and how. The plea deal followed by the drama with Goodell was a thing unto itself, but it's over. There's an appeal date set for December 2nd and AP is basically suspended until further notice. He could truly never play again if he does not meet Goodell's personal prescriptions for Child Rea and his perception of Peterson's "attitude" or supposed lack of "remorse".
I won't post the whole article because it's a long one, just the pertinent part about his future next year:
This is an old player based thread, maybe it's time to move on and talk about where he's going now and when and how. The plea deal followed by the drama with Goodell was a thing unto itself, but it's over. There's an appeal date set for December 2nd and AP is basically suspended until further notice. He could truly never play again if he does not meet Goodell's personal prescriptions for Child Rea and his perception of Peterson's "attitude" or supposed lack of "remorse".
I won't post the whole article because it's a long one, just the pertinent part about his future next year:
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togo
Footballguy
Take away his 76 yard run today he had 22 yards on 18 carries. in last 3 weeks he has not gone over 100 yards. The last couple of weeks he has had quite a few negative carries. Last week he averaged a little over 2 yards per carry.
His year has been decent but recently he has struggled.
30 years old getting up there for an RB.
Has he lost a step??
O line not creating holes?
Thoughts?
His year has been decent but recently he has struggled.
30 years old getting up there for an RB.
Has he lost a step??
O line not creating holes?
Thoughts?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
It isn't his offense anymore.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
But if you add another 76 yard run, he had 20 carries for 174 yards!togo said:
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Let's be honest here. He has probably lost some speed and strength from when he was 25. Everybody does. He's not an every week stud. To be honest, he looks to me like he's always trying to break the long one. I wouldn't be surpised to see a 40 yard game or a 140 yard game. But the consistency isn't going to be what it was.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Peterson is playing well. The Vikings offensive line can't block.
Peterson had multiple negative runs in this game similar to the game in KC due to run blitzes bringing more players than the Vikings had blockers and at least one Vikings lineman missing a key block. Sometimes several of them.
Zach Line failed several blocks as well. The only decent lead block he made was on Petersons 75 yard run. Mike Wallace had a nice block on this also. The run was still all Peterson making 50 and 32 both miss the angle on him after he cut outside.
Peterson had a very good run up the middle for over 10 yards early on in the game. He also had another good run later on in the game.
He also looked better as a receiver than he has in recent games.
He still can't pass protect.
Peterson had multiple negative runs in this game similar to the game in KC due to run blitzes bringing more players than the Vikings had blockers and at least one Vikings lineman missing a key block. Sometimes several of them.
Zach Line failed several blocks as well. The only decent lead block he made was on Petersons 75 yard run. Mike Wallace had a nice block on this also. The run was still all Peterson making 50 and 32 both miss the angle on him after he cut outside.
Peterson had a very good run up the middle for over 10 yards early on in the game. He also had another good run later on in the game.
He also looked better as a receiver than he has in recent games.
He still can't pass protect.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Never used to matter what the line did. Father time is creeping up. Only a matter of time until Adrian has a mouth full of leaves.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Isnt there another thread for this conversation you started awhile back?
Time waits for no one. Eventually you will be correct but not for awhile yet.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Depends on your expectation for Adrian. He was being touted as the numero uno pick before the season. Currently tracking closer to 10-12 depending on scoring. About 10 ppg off the pace for number one. I like to kid on the board because he's such a piece of ####, but in all reality, he's 30. Just is. He's not superhuman. Father time is getting a switch ready for him.
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
Appears to be getting plenty of red zone chances. From what I have been observing - the OL cannot blow holes through the defense which is scheming for ADP carries. It is frustrating to watch. On his long run yesterday it would have been great if he scored. Instead, they bring in a heavy package and it looks like a bunch of bodies falling into one heap at the line of scrimmage. This seems to be the case every time he has a red zone carry inside the 10. Then the play action hits for a score or a failed pass and the FG.
bigbrownbag
Footballguy
I should have drafted Bell
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Vikings staying stubborn with rushing attack. More famine than feast.
Peterson after 6 games is on pace for 320 rushing attempts 1413 rushing yards 8 TD 40 targets 35 receptions 270 receiving yards 1683 total yards 8TD
Squintz82
Footballguy
Great quote. The emergence of Diggs is going to start making teams second think putting 8-9 in the box. This was clear on the 75 yard run that when teams have to account for the pass, AP takes advantage. Think we'll see more of this going forward as Diggs continues to emerge down field.Biabreakable said:
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
If Peterson were injured it would likely be a RBBC with McKinnon and Asiata.
Asiata is currently the 3rd down RB as Peterson has been phased out of being used on 3rd down because of multiple failures in pass protection. Asiata would likely be the goal line RB as well.
McKinnon is the more explosive player who will get work between the twenties. McKinnon did get a series in the game against the Lions and did pretty well with his opportunity. I could see McKinnon being the featured RB but the coaches seem to prefer Asiata in pass protection.
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