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Adrian Peterson's turn to get the boot from the NFL (1 Viewer)

It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.
I think he's saying there's no outrage about them being allowed to play after serving their time.
Alright, I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison. The people that always love to come in and try to mock people for being self righteous are ridiculous. Sorry, but I'm perfectly comfortable criticizing those that punch their girlfriends/fiances/wives in the face or beat their 4 year old so badly that the bruises and cuts covering the kid's body are stark a week later. Acting like I can't say that punching your wife in the face or beating your kid black in blue is a terrible thing to do is pretty outrageous.

If you take a job as an entertainer or politician or as some sort of moralizer, then don't be surprised when I am no longer entertained/have trust/follow your teachings when you do something despicable.

 
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It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.
There was also substantial outrage upon his return. In time that died down some

 
It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.
I think he's saying there's no outrage about them being allowed to play after serving their time.
Alright, I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.The people that always love to come in and try to mock people for being self righteous are ridiculous. Sorry, but I'm perfectly comfortable criticizing those that punch their girlfriends/fiances/wives in the face or beat their 4 year old so badly that the bruises and cuts covering the kid's body are stark a week later. Acting like I can't say that punching your wife in the face or beating your kid black in blue is a terrible thing to do is pretty outrageous.

If you take a job as an entertainer or politician or as some sort of moralizer, then don't be surprised when I am no longer entertained/have trust/follow your teachings when you do something despicable.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?

 
It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.
I think he's saying there's no outrage about them being allowed to play after serving their time.
Alright, I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.The people that always love to come in and try to mock people for being self righteous are ridiculous. Sorry, but I'm perfectly comfortable criticizing those that punch their girlfriends/fiances/wives in the face or beat their 4 year old so badly that the bruises and cuts covering the kid's body are stark a week later. Acting like I can't say that punching your wife in the face or beating your kid black in blue is a terrible thing to do is pretty outrageous.

If you take a job as an entertainer or politician or as some sort of moralizer, then don't be surprised when I am no longer entertained/have trust/follow your teachings when you do something despicable.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
Then we're not talking an apples to apples comparison, are we?

 
Should he have spanked a child with a switch? I was spanked with a belt by my father who was a policeman. Sometimes if I moved during the spanking there would be marks on my hands where I tried to protect my butt. Right? Wrong? I dunno, but I have "whipped" my children with my hand, and for the most part they are not the a hole kid I was. Culturally the more education a person has the less spanking there will be in that house. Right or wrong it is not against the law to spank a child in the state of Texas. AD crossed the line and he has apologized for it. What would be a just punishment for AD? Prison time? A fine? Never get to see his kid again? Today on a local sports radio show a black man was talking about how spanking is a cultural thing in the black community. This black radio announcer went on to say that he has never spanked his 5 year old daughter, but had "thumped" her in the head many times to get her attention. :lol: So to each their own I guess.
I love the new he has apologized lets move on thing. Really apologies are now the legal currency of the day?" I beat my kid bloody and bruised is that frowned on here? Well if I would have known that would be a problem I certainly wouldn't have hit him with a stick 15-16 times including across his scrotum apparently. I just didn't know, my bad. Time to get on to the game." Yeah that seems like enough punishment let's move on.
I am not sure anyone is saying that a simple apology and moving on is enough. I do have some discomfort with the prospect that NFL football players are now held to some moral standard we do not require of people in even more important societal positions. I have some significant concerns with players being punished due to media/public opinion lynchings before they have even had due process in a court of law. That is effing scary to me.Should the guy who delivers the mail lose his job if he is indicted by a grand jury for child abuse? What about the guy ringing you up at the grocery store? Doesn't anyone find it a little scary that whenever someone does something or is alleged to have done something that crosses the line of the Twitter conscious-phere that they somehow become the most evil person in the world and that they should lose their job?

As alluded to in many other comments in many other forums, you have guys who were involved in the death of another human being still playing, still making a living working for television networks, etc. I don't want to get political by any stretch of the imagination, but we have politicians trying to take the political high ground and tell the NFL what to do. We have the National Organization for Women, which was absolutely silent when Bill Clinton was being accused of sexual harassment and rape (never mind banging interns and cheating on his wife) calling for the commissioner (basically the president) of the NFL to step down.

Are you ####### kidding me? We have politicians getting on their high horse and acting as if they have the moral authority and right to tell a private organization how they should handle their business when they collectively turn a blind eye, rationalize and explain away the corrupt and illegal behavior of their colleagues? Something like 15% of the Democratic senators in the state of California are facing criminal charges and the Dem leadership will not even expel them. The world is off its rocker right now and I have no idea how we find some semblance of common sense, proportion and moral consistency and fairness.
:goodposting: It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
ADP will be back this season and I suspect Rice will be back as well (although not likely this season).
I would take that bet.

 
It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.
I think he's saying there's no outrage about them being allowed to play after serving their time.
Alright, I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.The people that always love to come in and try to mock people for being self righteous are ridiculous. Sorry, but I'm perfectly comfortable criticizing those that punch their girlfriends/fiances/wives in the face or beat their 4 year old so badly that the bruises and cuts covering the kid's body are stark a week later. Acting like I can't say that punching your wife in the face or beating your kid black in blue is a terrible thing to do is pretty outrageous.

If you take a job as an entertainer or politician or as some sort of moralizer, then don't be surprised when I am no longer entertained/have trust/follow your teachings when you do something despicable.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
Then we're not talking an apples to apples comparison, are we?
That wasn't the point of my question.

 
It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.
I think he's saying there's no outrage about them being allowed to play after serving their time.
Alright, I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.The people that always love to come in and try to mock people for being self righteous are ridiculous. Sorry, but I'm perfectly comfortable criticizing those that punch their girlfriends/fiances/wives in the face or beat their 4 year old so badly that the bruises and cuts covering the kid's body are stark a week later. Acting like I can't say that punching your wife in the face or beating your kid black in blue is a terrible thing to do is pretty outrageous.

If you take a job as an entertainer or politician or as some sort of moralizer, then don't be surprised when I am no longer entertained/have trust/follow your teachings when you do something despicable.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
Then we're not talking an apples to apples comparison, are we?
That wasn't the point of my question.
And your question wasn't the point of my statement.
 
It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.
I think he's saying there's no outrage about them being allowed to play after serving their time.
Alright, I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.The people that always love to come in and try to mock people for being self righteous are ridiculous. Sorry, but I'm perfectly comfortable criticizing those that punch their girlfriends/fiances/wives in the face or beat their 4 year old so badly that the bruises and cuts covering the kid's body are stark a week later. Acting like I can't say that punching your wife in the face or beating your kid black in blue is a terrible thing to do is pretty outrageous.

If you take a job as an entertainer or politician or as some sort of moralizer, then don't be surprised when I am no longer entertained/have trust/follow your teachings when you do something despicable.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
Then we're not talking an apples to apples comparison, are we?
That wasn't the point of my question.
And your question wasn't the point of my statement.


I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.
 
It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.
I think he's saying there's no outrage about them being allowed to play after serving their time.
Alright, I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.The people that always love to come in and try to mock people for being self righteous are ridiculous. Sorry, but I'm perfectly comfortable criticizing those that punch their girlfriends/fiances/wives in the face or beat their 4 year old so badly that the bruises and cuts covering the kid's body are stark a week later. Acting like I can't say that punching your wife in the face or beating your kid black in blue is a terrible thing to do is pretty outrageous.

If you take a job as an entertainer or politician or as some sort of moralizer, then don't be surprised when I am no longer entertained/have trust/follow your teachings when you do something despicable.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
Then we're not talking an apples to apples comparison, are we?
That wasn't the point of my question.
And your question wasn't the point of my statement.
I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.
Exactly.

 
Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.
I think he's saying there's no outrage about them being allowed to play after serving their time.
Alright, I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.The people that always love to come in and try to mock people for being self righteous are ridiculous. Sorry, but I'm perfectly comfortable criticizing those that punch their girlfriends/fiances/wives in the face or beat their 4 year old so badly that the bruises and cuts covering the kid's body are stark a week later. Acting like I can't say that punching your wife in the face or beating your kid black in blue is a terrible thing to do is pretty outrageous.

If you take a job as an entertainer or politician or as some sort of moralizer, then don't be surprised when I am no longer entertained/have trust/follow your teachings when you do something despicable.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
Then we're not talking an apples to apples comparison, are we?
That wasn't the point of my question.
And your question wasn't the point of my statement.

I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.
Exactly.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
 
Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.
I think he's saying there's no outrage about them being allowed to play after serving their time.
Alright, I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.The people that always love to come in and try to mock people for being self righteous are ridiculous. Sorry, but I'm perfectly comfortable criticizing those that punch their girlfriends/fiances/wives in the face or beat their 4 year old so badly that the bruises and cuts covering the kid's body are stark a week later. Acting like I can't say that punching your wife in the face or beating your kid black in blue is a terrible thing to do is pretty outrageous.

If you take a job as an entertainer or politician or as some sort of moralizer, then don't be surprised when I am no longer entertained/have trust/follow your teachings when you do something despicable.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
Then we're not talking an apples to apples comparison, are we?
That wasn't the point of my question.
And your question wasn't the point of my statement.
I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.
Exactly.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
That's not the same scenario as Vick then.

 
Koya pretends to be Mr ####in tolerant but is so intolerant of anyone that doesn't toe his line. Just ####in annoying. Every damn thread we have to see it.
Yeah, you are going to have to well, back this up.

I work with people with whom I have significant differences (political and otherwise) everyday. Disagreeing and/or getting into a discussion and even an argument on an internet message board is hardly intolerant.

Perhaps the truth is that you have nothing more to add than this type of response (#####ing, defensive without adding to any positive dialogue), but I'll give ya the benefit of the doubt

 
Should he have spanked a child with a switch? I was spanked with a belt by my father who was a policeman. Sometimes if I moved during the spanking there would be marks on my hands where I tried to protect my butt. Right? Wrong? I dunno, but I have "whipped" my children with my hand, and for the most part they are not the a hole kid I was. Culturally the more education a person has the less spanking there will be in that house. Right or wrong it is not against the law to spank a child in the state of Texas. AD crossed the line and he has apologized for it. What would be a just punishment for AD? Prison time? A fine? Never get to see his kid again? Today on a local sports radio show a black man was talking about how spanking is a cultural thing in the black community. This black radio announcer went on to say that he has never spanked his 5 year old daughter, but had "thumped" her in the head many times to get her attention. :lol: So to each their own I guess.
I love the new he has apologized lets move on thing. Really apologies are now the legal currency of the day?" I beat my kid bloody and bruised is that frowned on here? Well if I would have known that would be a problem I certainly wouldn't have hit him with a stick 15-16 times including across his scrotum apparently. I just didn't know, my bad. Time to get on to the game." Yeah that seems like enough punishment let's move on.
I am not sure anyone is saying that a simple apology and moving on is enough. I do have some discomfort with the prospect that NFL football players are now held to some moral standard we do not require of people in even more important societal positions. I have some significant concerns with players being punished due to media/public opinion lynchings before they have even had due process in a court of law. That is effing scary to me.

Should the guy who delivers the mail lose his job if he is indicted by a grand jury for child abuse? What about the guy ringing you up at the grocery store? Doesn't anyone find it a little scary that whenever someone does something or is alleged to have done something that crosses the line of the Twitter conscious-phere that they somehow become the most evil person in the world and that they should lose their job?

As alluded to in many other comments in many other forums, you have guys who were involved in the death of another human being still playing, still making a living working for television networks, etc. I don't want to get political by any stretch of the imagination, but we have politicians trying to take the political high ground and tell the NFL what to do. We have the National Organization for Women, which was absolutely silent when Bill Clinton was being accused of sexual harassment and rape (never mind banging interns and cheating on his wife) calling for the commissioner (basically the president) of the NFL to step down.

Are you ####### kidding me? We have politicians getting on their high horse and acting as if they have the moral authority and right to tell a private organization how they should handle their business when they collectively turn a blind eye, rationalize and explain away the corrupt and illegal behavior of their colleagues? Something like 15% of the Democratic senators in the state of California are facing criminal charges and the Dem leadership will not even expel them. The world is off its rocker right now and I have no idea how we find some semblance of common sense, proportion and moral consistency and fairness.
We don't? Dude who got caught kicking a puppy in an elevator is no longer CEO of the company he founded. So he lost his job. Because it was bad business to have that kind of doosh be the face of your product. The NFL is a money making concern first and always. Those pictures make AP a less than desirable representative for your brand.

 
Alright, I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.

The people that always love to come in and try to mock people for being self righteous are ridiculous. Sorry, but I'm perfectly comfortable criticizing those that punch their girlfriends/fiances/wives in the face or beat their 4 year old so badly that the bruises and cuts covering the kid's body are stark a week later. Acting like I can't say that punching your wife in the face or beating your kid black in blue is a terrible thing to do is pretty outrageous.

If you take a job as an entertainer or politician or as some sort of moralizer, then don't be surprised when I am no longer entertained/have trust/follow your teachings when you do something despicable.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
Then we're not talking an apples to apples comparison, are we?
That wasn't the point of my question.
And your question wasn't the point of my statement.

I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.
Exactly.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
That's not the same scenario as Vick then.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
 
Alright, I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.The people that always love to come in and try to mock people for being self righteous are ridiculous. Sorry, but I'm perfectly comfortable criticizing those that punch their girlfriends/fiances/wives in the face or beat their 4 year old so badly that the bruises and cuts covering the kid's body are stark a week later. Acting like I can't say that punching your wife in the face or beating your kid black in blue is a terrible thing to do is pretty outrageous.

If you take a job as an entertainer or politician or as some sort of moralizer, then don't be surprised when I am no longer entertained/have trust/follow your teachings when you do something despicable.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
Then we're not talking an apples to apples comparison, are we?
That wasn't the point of my question.
And your question wasn't the point of my statement.
I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.
Exactly.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
That's not the same scenario as Vick then.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
That's not the same scenario as Vick then.

 
Seems like fantasy people are going to be complaining about this...

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...All Day.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
I used to be in favor of corporal punishment. But after hearing this my views have...

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...switched.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Koya pretends to be Mr ####in tolerant but is so intolerant of anyone that doesn't toe his line. Just ####in annoying. Every damn thread we have to see it.
Yeah, you are going to have to well, back this up.I work with people with whom I have significant differences (political and otherwise) everyday. Disagreeing and/or getting into a discussion and even an argument on an internet message board is hardly intolerant.

Perhaps the truth is that you have nothing more to add than this type of response (#####ing, defensive without adding to any positive dialogue), but I'll give ya the benefit of the doubt
Unfortunately for everyone else, you ALWAYS have something (annoying) to add.
 
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Then we're not talking an apples to apples comparison, are we?
That wasn't the point of my question.
And your question wasn't the point of my statement.

I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.
Exactly.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
That's not the same scenario as Vick then.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
That's not the same scenario as Vick then.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
 
Put leaves in his mouth, pulled his pants down and beat him so bad he wounded the child's scrotum. The child is 4. I just....I don't understand how a father could do this to his child.

 
As a boy my father would spank us with a leather belt. If we were particularly bad he would use the buckle end of the belt on us. Welts and broken skin were not uncommon. The spankings (from his point of view), the beatings (from my point of view) did not teach me compliance or respect, they taught me defiance.
That's what I don't get about the iToughLove talk by the disciplinarian set; didn't these guys have the sack to hit back? Hell, it sounds like many of them are taking their cues from Good Will Hunting- "Because #### him, that's why." Lesson most definitely not learned.

 
Should he have spanked a child with a switch? I was spanked with a belt by my father who was a policeman. Sometimes if I moved during the spanking there would be marks on my hands where I tried to protect my butt. Right? Wrong? I dunno, but I have "whipped" my children with my hand, and for the most part they are not the a hole kid I was. Culturally the more education a person has the less spanking there will be in that house. Right or wrong it is not against the law to spank a child in the state of Texas. AD crossed the line and he has apologized for it. What would be a just punishment for AD? Prison time? A fine? Never get to see his kid again? Today on a local sports radio show a black man was talking about how spanking is a cultural thing in the black community. This black radio announcer went on to say that he has never spanked his 5 year old daughter, but had "thumped" her in the head many times to get her attention. :lol: So to each their own I guess.
I love the new he has apologized lets move on thing. Really apologies are now the legal currency of the day?" I beat my kid bloody and bruised is that frowned on here? Well if I would have known that would be a problem I certainly wouldn't have hit him with a stick 15-16 times including across his scrotum apparently. I just didn't know, my bad. Time to get on to the game." Yeah that seems like enough punishment let's move on.
I am not sure anyone is saying that a simple apology and moving on is enough. I do have some discomfort with the prospect that NFL football players are now held to some moral standard we do not require of people in even more important societal positions. I have some significant concerns with players being punished due to media/public opinion lynchings before they have even had due process in a court of law. That is effing scary to me.

Should the guy who delivers the mail lose his job if he is indicted by a grand jury for child abuse? What about the guy ringing you up at the grocery store? Doesn't anyone find it a little scary that whenever someone does something or is alleged to have done something that crosses the line of the Twitter conscious-phere that they somehow become the most evil person in the world and that they should lose their job?

As alluded to in many other comments in many other forums, you have guys who were involved in the death of another human being still playing, still making a living working for television networks, etc. I don't want to get political by any stretch of the imagination, but we have politicians trying to take the political high ground and tell the NFL what to do. We have the National Organization for Women, which was absolutely silent when Bill Clinton was being accused of sexual harassment and rape (never mind banging interns and cheating on his wife) calling for the commissioner (basically the president) of the NFL to step down.

Are you ####### kidding me? We have politicians getting on their high horse and acting as if they have the moral authority and right to tell a private organization how they should handle their business when they collectively turn a blind eye, rationalize and explain away the corrupt and illegal behavior of their colleagues? Something like 15% of the Democratic senators in the state of California are facing criminal charges and the Dem leadership will not even expel them. The world is off its rocker right now and I have no idea how we find some semblance of common sense, proportion and moral consistency and fairness.
Isn't the league to blame for this themselves by wanting to set some sort of moral standards in regards to their employees?

 
Put leaves in his mouth, pulled his pants down and beat him so bad he wounded the child's scrotum. The child is 4. I just....I don't understand how a father could do this to his child.
Sick. What's with the leaves in the mouth? So he wouldn't scream?

 
Should he have spanked a child with a switch? I was spanked with a belt by my father who was a policeman. Sometimes if I moved during the spanking there would be marks on my hands where I tried to protect my butt. Right? Wrong? I dunno, but I have "whipped" my children with my hand, and for the most part they are not the a hole kid I was. Culturally the more education a person has the less spanking there will be in that house. Right or wrong it is not against the law to spank a child in the state of Texas. AD crossed the line and he has apologized for it. What would be a just punishment for AD? Prison time? A fine? Never get to see his kid again? Today on a local sports radio show a black man was talking about how spanking is a cultural thing in the black community. This black radio announcer went on to say that he has never spanked his 5 year old daughter, but had "thumped" her in the head many times to get her attention. :lol: So to each their own I guess.
I love the new he has apologized lets move on thing. Really apologies are now the legal currency of the day?" I beat my kid bloody and bruised is that frowned on here? Well if I would have known that would be a problem I certainly wouldn't have hit him with a stick 15-16 times including across his scrotum apparently. I just didn't know, my bad. Time to get on to the game." Yeah that seems like enough punishment let's move on.
I am not sure anyone is saying that a simple apology and moving on is enough. I do have some discomfort with the prospect that NFL football players are now held to some moral standard we do not require of people in even more important societal positions. I have some significant concerns with players being punished due to media/public opinion lynchings before they have even had due process in a court of law. That is effing scary to me.

Should the guy who delivers the mail lose his job if he is indicted by a grand jury for child abuse? What about the guy ringing you up at the grocery store? Doesn't anyone find it a little scary that whenever someone does something or is alleged to have done something that crosses the line of the Twitter conscious-phere that they somehow become the most evil person in the world and that they should lose their job?

As alluded to in many other comments in many other forums, you have guys who were involved in the death of another human being still playing, still making a living working for television networks, etc. I don't want to get political by any stretch of the imagination, but we have politicians trying to take the political high ground and tell the NFL what to do. We have the National Organization for Women, which was absolutely silent when Bill Clinton was being accused of sexual harassment and rape (never mind banging interns and cheating on his wife) calling for the commissioner (basically the president) of the NFL to step down.

Are you ####### kidding me? We have politicians getting on their high horse and acting as if they have the moral authority and right to tell a private organization how they should handle their business when they collectively turn a blind eye, rationalize and explain away the corrupt and illegal behavior of their colleagues? Something like 15% of the Democratic senators in the state of California are facing criminal charges and the Dem leadership will not even expel them. The world is off its rocker right now and I have no idea how we find some semblance of common sense, proportion and moral consistency and fairness.
Isn't the league to blame for this themselves by wanting to set some sort of moral standards in regards to their employees?
Fair question.

 
timschochet said:
The tragic thing about this, beyond the story itself, is that Adrian Peterson is not just a star NFL running back. He may be the best running back ever. At the very least he has to be considered with the likes of Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, and Barry Sanders.

If he never plays another down of football because of this incident, he's already well worthy of the Hall of Fame, simply based on performance.
You are the worst thing that has ever happened, ever.
Actually, the hatred you (and others) show toward tim, and all these ####### pathetic posts that I have to read on the subject, are the worst thing that had ever happened (to this board).
Your scroll button broken, chach?

 
Put leaves in his mouth, pulled his pants down and beat him so bad he wounded the child's scrotum. The child is 4. I just....I don't understand how a father could do this to his child.
Those pictures are horrid. I've heard of the switch thing before, but what's the deal with leaves in the mouth?

 
Put leaves in his mouth, pulled his pants down and beat him so bad he wounded the child's scrotum. The child is 4. I just....I don't understand how a father could do this to his child.
Those pictures are horrid. I've heard of the switch thing before, but what's the deal with leaves in the mouth?
That was something the 4-year old said I believe. It's hard to know exactly what it means.

 
Then we're not talking an apples to apples comparison, are we?
That wasn't the point of my question.
And your question wasn't the point of my statement.
I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.
Exactly.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
That's not the same scenario as Vick then.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
That's not the same scenario as Vick then.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
Irrelevant

 
And your question wasn't the point of my statement.

I promise not to complain one bit more as long as Peterson and Rice go spend 2 years in prison.
Exactly.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
That's not the same scenario as Vick then.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
That's not the same scenario as Vick then.
What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?
Irrelevant
No, it's the question.What if he's found guilty but given a suspended sentence?

 
Jesus, just say you'll complain in that scenario, Christo will post a :lmao: emoticon and we can all be done with this exchange.

 
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But, I believe so folks are taught from a religious perspective that punishing with an object is preferential to punishing with your hand in the sense that the hand should be used for love/affection or something like that.

There are some folks who, when reading a post like this, say "what the #### are you talking about?"
 
I feel like I'm taking the bait here, but Grove, the point is if he takes the punishment given to him by the the legal system should be he be able to work like Vick? HFS, people.

 
Put leaves in his mouth, pulled his pants down and beat him so bad he wounded the child's scrotum. The child is 4. I just....I don't understand how a father could do this to his child.
Those pictures are horrid. I've heard of the switch thing before, but what's the deal with leaves in the mouth?
We've known each other for 10 + years....seen a lot of shhhitt....has anything we've been through been worse than this? I look at my kids and weep after seeing this story and those photos. Those of you backing Peterson are worse than he crap I scrape off my shoes.

 
Put leaves in his mouth, pulled his pants down and beat him so bad he wounded the child's scrotum. The child is 4. I just....I don't understand how a father could do this to his child.
Those pictures are horrid. I've heard of the switch thing before, but what's the deal with leaves in the mouth?
To prevent them from crying/screaming/etc. Also a put you in your place sort of thing.

 
General Malaise said:
Gambino said:
General Malaise said:
Put leaves in his mouth, pulled his pants down and beat him so bad he wounded the child's scrotum. The child is 4. I just....I don't understand how a father could do this to his child.
Those pictures are horrid. I've heard of the switch thing before, but what's the deal with leaves in the mouth?
We've known each other for 10 + years....seen a lot of shhhitt....has anything we've been through been worse than this? I look at my kids and weep after seeing this story and those photos. Those of you backing Peterson are worse than he crap I scrape off my shoes.
Sissy

 
fatness said:
But, I believe so folks are taught from a religious perspective that punishing with an object is preferential to punishing with your hand in the sense that the hand should be used for love/affection or something like that.
There are some folks who, when reading a post like this, say "what the #### are you talking about?"
Let me take another stab at articulating it.

There are some Christian authors, can't recall the names, and churches who advocate for the use of a belt or paddle or what not to dish out corporal punishment instead of using your hand. There are a couple of reasons given for this.

This includes the notion that you do not want your children to fear you or fear your hand. I know that when I would spank my older son with my hand that he would sometimes flinch afterwards if I was angry and reached out to grab him to get his attention or gesticulated in a quick motion. Thus, some advocate the use of a belt therefore allowing the child to separate/distinguish when they are getting punished. If you are angry with your child and upset, they will not be fearful that you will strike them at any moment.

As a father, I wanted my kids to have a healthy dose of fear and respect for my authority. But, it really troubled me when I would get mad and my son flinched assuming I was on the verge of spanking him when the thought hadn't even crossed my mind. For me personally, that was a turning point in my transitioning away from spanking. The older I got, the more patient I became and it was more important and in my opinion effective to articulate my disappointment in my child's behavior as a means for achieving some of the behavioral changes I sought.

 
fatness said:
But, I believe so folks are taught from a religious perspective that punishing with an object is preferential to punishing with your hand in the sense that the hand should be used for love/affection or something like that.
There are some folks who, when reading a post like this, say "what the #### are you talking about?"
Let me take another stab at articulating it.

There are some Christian authors, can't recall the names, and churches who advocate for the use of a belt or paddle or what not to dish out corporal punishment instead of using your hand. There are a couple of reasons given for this.

This includes the notion that you do not want your children to fear you or fear your hand. I know that when I would spank my older son with my hand that he would sometimes flinch afterwards if I was angry and reached out to grab him to get his attention or gesticulated in a quick motion. Thus, some advocate the use of a belt therefore allowing the child to separate/distinguish when they are getting punished. If you are angry with your child and upset, they will not be fearful that you will strike them at any moment.

As a father, I wanted my kids to have a healthy dose of fear and respect for my authority. But, it really troubled me when I would get mad and my son flinched assuming I was on the verge of spanking him when the thought hadn't even crossed my mind. For me personally, that was a turning point in my transitioning away from spanking. The older I got, the more patient I became and it was more important and in my opinion effective to articulate my disappointment in my child's behavior as a means for achieving some of the behavioral changes I sought.
What do some Christian authors say about leaves in the mouth?

 
General Malaise said:
Gambino said:
General Malaise said:
Put leaves in his mouth, pulled his pants down and beat him so bad he wounded the child's scrotum. The child is 4. I just....I don't understand how a father could do this to his child.
Those pictures are horrid. I've heard of the switch thing before, but what's the deal with leaves in the mouth?
We've known each other for 10 + years....seen a lot of shhhitt....has anything we've been through been worse than this? I look at my kids and weep after seeing this story and those photos. Those of you backing Peterson are worse than he crap I scrape off my shoes.
Sissy
I know you are fishing for outrage here, so I'm not going to give you what you want. But GM is spot on with his commentary and one of the finest people to ever be on this board and I'm proud to call him a friend. He is expressing true human emotion regarding a horrible situation with a child involved. Now please continue on with your schtick, Massengale.

 
General Malaise said:
Gambino said:
General Malaise said:
Put leaves in his mouth, pulled his pants down and beat him so bad he wounded the child's scrotum. The child is 4. I just....I don't understand how a father could do this to his child.
Those pictures are horrid. I've heard of the switch thing before, but what's the deal with leaves in the mouth?
We've known each other for 10 + years....seen a lot of shhhitt....has anything we've been through been worse than this? I look at my kids and weep after seeing this story and those photos. Those of you backing Peterson are worse than he crap I scrape off my shoes.
Sissy
I know you are fishing for outrage here, so I'm not going to give you what you want. But GM is spot on with his commentary and one of the finest people to ever be on this board and I'm proud to call him a friend. He is expressing true human emotion regarding a horrible situation with a child involved. Now please continue on with your schtick, Massengale.
His true human emotion has led to posts that describe his desire for AP to be killed in horrible ways. Apparently you guys are friends and share this view, but that's the most disgusting point of view I have yet to see in these discussions.Log in eye, glass houses, etc.

 
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