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North TEAM W L T PCT PF PA HOME ROAD AFC NFC DIV Pittsburgh 8 3 0 .727 236 160 4-2-0 4-1-0 7-1 1-2 4-0 Baltimore 7 4 0 .636 258 187 4-1-0 3-3-0 6-3 1-1 3-1 East TEAM W L T PCT PF PA HOME ROAD AFC NFC DIV N.Y. Jets 8 3 0 .727 323 234 4-1-0 4-2-0 6-3 2-0 3-1 New England 7 4 0 .636 267 222 4-2-0 3-2-0 5-4 2-0 3-2 Buffalo 6 5 0 .545 273 249 3-2-0 3-3-0 4-4 2-1 0-3 Miami 6 5 0 .545 237 245 4-3-0 2-2-0 5-4 1-1 2-2 South TEAM W L T PCT PF PA HOME ROAD AFC NFC DIV Tennessee 10 1 0 .909 257 165 5-1-0 5-0-0 7-1 3-0 4-0 Indianapolis 7 4 0 .636 247 244 3-2-0 4-2-0 6-2 1-2 2-2 West TEAM W L T PCT PF PA HOME ROAD AFC NFC DIV Denver 6 5 0 .545 258 302 3-3-0 3-2-0 3-5 3-0 2-2 San Diego 4 7 0 .364 274 252 3-2-0 1-5-0 4-5 0-2 2-1 Oakland 3 8 0 .273 159 245 1-4-0 2-4-0 3-5 0-3 2-2
Except for AFC West I deleted 4-7 or worse from the standings. Short of Denver or SD scoring a ton on someone, AFC West seems pretty weak heading into the playoffs at this point. They're both good enough to go on a run and change that thinking. Anyhow, records aside, I think this is the best AFC group in quite some time. Indy and NE as a wildcard? GeeshWho do you guys think makes it? Any thoughts on the "lesser" wildcard teams vs the division winners?
 
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.

 
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With the Colts and Pats playing so well, and with decent schedules remaining, the AFC North will be hard pressed to send two teams to the playoffs. Pittsburgh and Baltimore have some big games left, not the least of which is their meeting in Baltimore in Week 15. In addition to that game, the Stillers also have to travel to New England (this week, a yoooge game) and Tennessee (although the Titans may be resting guys for the playoffs by then). Ten wins, which I think the Ravens can get to (away games at Cincy and Dallas, home vs Washington, Pittsburgh and Jacksonville), may simply not be enough as a wild card.

 
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
 
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
Pats play home to PIT and ARI and @OAK, @SEA, and @BUF. I don't see NE worse than 4-1 in those game = 11-5.
 
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
I think Balt loses to Wash, Pitt and Dallas. The Pats will take a WC easy as will the Colts.
 
The AFC North is very much up for grabs. The Steelers have some brutal games coming up and Baltimore is playing well. If the Steelers come away with 3 wins in the next 5 they're in.

It is funny how before the season started I was thinking 9-7 could be enough to win the division. Now it is looking like 10-6 might not be enough.

 
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
Pats play home to PIT and ARI and @OAK, @SEA, and @BUF. I don't see NE worse than 4-1 in those game = 11-5.
DY, can you create a Week 13 NERB thread? Why haven't they IR'd Lamont Jordan? Will he be a contributor this year?tx
 
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
Pats play home to PIT and ARI and @OAK, @SEA, and @BUF. I don't see NE worse than 4-1 in those game = 11-5.
I think Pittsburgh and Arizona can beat the Patriots, and possibly Buffalo if their D can get healthy and Edwards stops the turnovers.
 
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
Pats play home to PIT and ARI and @OAK, @SEA, and @BUF. I don't see NE worse than 4-1 in those game = 11-5.
I think Pittsburgh and Arizona can beat the Patriots, and possibly Buffalo if their D can get healthy and Edwards stops the turnovers.
I think PIT will be a challenge, especially if Matt LIght gets suspended as expected. But the game is in NE and in recent years the Pats seem to have the Steelers number. As for Arizona, that also is in New England, and the West Coast teams playing on the East Coast this year are literally 0 for whatever. None of them have won an East Coast game. The Cardinals for some reason do not fare as well outside of Arizona. Certainly they could beat the Pats, but I would expect New England to win. Buffalo could also beat the Pats, but I think the Pats would be expected to win.
 
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
Pats play home to PIT and ARI and @OAK, @SEA, and @BUF. I don't see NE worse than 4-1 in those game = 11-5.
DY, can you create a Week 13 NERB thread? Why haven't they IR'd Lamont Jordan? Will he be a contributor this year?tx
I think the way you see the Pats now is what to expect heading forward. Morris will get the most (but not a ton) of carries, Faulk will get some rushing yards and some receiving yards, and BJGE will get the garbage time carries. IR or no IR I don't see Jordan doing much of anything. He had one decent half of football (against the Jets in Week 2) and has done zip chewy any other week. Given that the Pats have reverted to 2007 form, as long as the weather holds they appear to be a pass first, run to keep them honest team.
 
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
Pats play home to PIT and ARI and @OAK, @SEA, and @BUF. I don't see NE worse than 4-1 in those game = 11-5.
I think Pittsburgh and Arizona can beat the Patriots, and possibly Buffalo if their D can get healthy and Edwards stops the turnovers.
I think PIT will be a challenge, especially if Matt LIght gets suspended as expected. But the game is in NE and in recent years the Pats seem to have the Steelers number. As for Arizona, that also is in New England, and the West Coast teams playing on the East Coast this year are literally 0 for whatever. None of them have won an East Coast game. The Cardinals for some reason do not fare as well outside of Arizona. Certainly they could beat the Pats, but I would expect New England to win. Buffalo could also beat the Pats, but I think the Pats would be expected to win.
Arizona played well against Carolina on the East Coast. They lost the game, but they were right there in the game until the end. New England isn't that good against the pass, and I think Warner can have a great game against them.
 
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
Pats play home to PIT and ARI and @OAK, @SEA, and @BUF. I don't see NE worse than 4-1 in those game = 11-5.
I think Pittsburgh and Arizona can beat the Patriots, and possibly Buffalo if their D can get healthy and Edwards stops the turnovers.
I think PIT will be a challenge, especially if Matt LIght gets suspended as expected. But the game is in NE and in recent years the Pats seem to have the Steelers number. As for Arizona, that also is in New England, and the West Coast teams playing on the East Coast this year are literally 0 for whatever. None of them have won an East Coast game. The Cardinals for some reason do not fare as well outside of Arizona. Certainly they could beat the Pats, but I would expect New England to win. Buffalo could also beat the Pats, but I think the Pats would be expected to win.
Arizona played well against Carolina on the East Coast. They lost the game, but they were right there in the game until the end. New England isn't that good against the pass, and I think Warner can have a great game against them.
That's why they play the games.ETA: Pats just gave up almost 350 yards passing to the Dolphins and still won by 3 touchdowns, so they could give up a lot of yards and still win.
 
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meanjoegreen said:
David Yudkin said:
meanjoegreen said:
David Yudkin said:
Bri said:
Dragon1952 said:
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
Pats play home to PIT and ARI and @OAK, @SEA, and @BUF. I don't see NE worse than 4-1 in those game = 11-5.
I think Pittsburgh and Arizona can beat the Patriots, and possibly Buffalo if their D can get healthy and Edwards stops the turnovers.
I think PIT will be a challenge, especially if Matt LIght gets suspended as expected. But the game is in NE and in recent years the Pats seem to have the Steelers number. As for Arizona, that also is in New England, and the West Coast teams playing on the East Coast this year are literally 0 for whatever. None of them have won an East Coast game. The Cardinals for some reason do not fare as well outside of Arizona. Certainly they could beat the Pats, but I would expect New England to win. Buffalo could also beat the Pats, but I think the Pats would be expected to win.
Arizona played well against Carolina on the East Coast. They lost the game, but they were right there in the game until the end. New England isn't that good against the pass, and I think Warner can have a great game against them.
The x-factor in this game is the weather. If it's a nice day than Arizona'a passing game will give the Pats fits. If it's a bad day the Cards could be in for a long one.
 
meanjoegreen said:
David Yudkin said:
meanjoegreen said:
David Yudkin said:
Bri said:
Dragon1952 said:
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
Pats play home to PIT and ARI and @OAK, @SEA, and @BUF. I don't see NE worse than 4-1 in those game = 11-5.
I think Pittsburgh and Arizona can beat the Patriots, and possibly Buffalo if their D can get healthy and Edwards stops the turnovers.
I think PIT will be a challenge, especially if Matt LIght gets suspended as expected. But the game is in NE and in recent years the Pats seem to have the Steelers number. As for Arizona, that also is in New England, and the West Coast teams playing on the East Coast this year are literally 0 for whatever. None of them have won an East Coast game. The Cardinals for some reason do not fare as well outside of Arizona. Certainly they could beat the Pats, but I would expect New England to win. Buffalo could also beat the Pats, but I think the Pats would be expected to win.
Arizona played well against Carolina on the East Coast. They lost the game, but they were right there in the game until the end. New England isn't that good against the pass, and I think Warner can have a great game against them.
The x-factor in this game is the weather. If it's a nice day than Arizona'a passing game will give the Pats fits. If it's a bad day the Cards could be in for a long one.
Career Numbers: Warner in outdoor games: 262 yards, 1.2 TD, 1.2 INT per gameWarner in indoor games: 262 yards, 2.1 TD, 0.9 INT per gameIn games under 40 degrees: 248 yards, 1 TD, 3.7 INT per game (42.5 QB rating)Granted, he has only played in 3 cold games, but he has not fared very well in those games.
 
David Yudkin said:
meanjoegreen said:
David Yudkin said:
Bri said:
Dragon1952 said:
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
Pats play home to PIT and ARI and @OAK, @SEA, and @BUF. I don't see NE worse than 4-1 in those game = 11-5.
I think Pittsburgh and Arizona can beat the Patriots, and possibly Buffalo if their D can get healthy and Edwards stops the turnovers.
I think PIT will be a challenge, especially if Matt LIght gets suspended as expected. But the game is in NE and in recent years the Pats seem to have the Steelers number. As for Arizona, that also is in New England, and the West Coast teams playing on the East Coast this year are literally 0 for whatever. None of them have won an East Coast game. The Cardinals for some reason do not fare as well outside of Arizona. Certainly they could beat the Pats, but I would expect New England to win. Buffalo could also beat the Pats, but I think the Pats would be expected to win.
I think the 6 seed will come down to the Pats and Ravens (not sure who would win that tiebreaker). Although the Steelers are 8-3 and look to be in good shape right now, they're really not considering their schedule. They'll come out with desperation this week and look to make a statement. The Pats have been playing well lately and they do own the Steelers but I think the Steelers are more talented this year. I think the Steeler Defense will make the Pats one dimensional (as they do all other teams) and force Cassel to throw it 50 times. He's been successful lately but he hasn't faced a defense this strong. As for the rest of the Pats schedule, I don't see them losing a game. The Cardinals are ok but they're not a good road team. They're the type of team that Belichick would eat alive.
 
I'm going against the grain and say that Pittsburgh is the team that misses the playoffs.

Jets, Tenn, Balt and SD are division winners.

Indy & NE are wild cards.

Indy has a pretty easy schedule and I wouldn't be shocked to see them run the table. NE at worst I see them going 3-2 but think 4-1 is more likely with the way they've been playing.

Pittsburgh got to go on the road to play NE, Balt and Ten, and then have Home games against Dallas and Cleveland. They could easily go 1-4 over the next five. And I believe if they lose to NE it's really desperation time for them.

 
sdsjr3 said:
Dragon1952 said:
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
I think Balt loses to Wash, Pitt and Dallas. The Pats will take a WC easy as will the Colts.
Baltimore continues to get no respect. They beat Miami head-to-head. They're 4-1 at home, with the only loss coming on a last-second TD by the Titans. I don't think Washington comes in and beats them. And the Ravens always play Pittsburgh very tough -- they lost in OT at Pittsburgh in Flacco's third game. The rematch in Baltimore is a toss-up.If the Ravens beat Cincy and Jacksonville, that's 9 wins with an 8-3 conference record. Even if they only go 1-2 in their other 3 (Wash, Pitt, @ Dal), they're at 10 wins, with -- at most -- 4 AFC losses. The Pats already have 4 AFC losses - if they lose to Pittsburgh, that will be 5, and so they'll probably have to go 11-5 to make the playoffs because they would likely lose the tie-breaker with Baltimore at 10-6.This week should be a good one for the Ravens. They beat Cincy and go to 8-4. If the Pats beat the Steelers, then the Ravens move into a first-place tie and the Steelers go to 7-2 in the AFC. If the Steelers beat the Pats, then Baltimore takes sole possession of the last Wild Card spot, and also get a 2-game advantage over New England for better AFC record.
 
I think this seems about right

Titans 13-3

Jets 12-4

Steelers or Ravens 10-6 (too close to call, whoever wins the rematch)

Broncos 8-8 (I don't see the Chargers winning more than 3 games)

Colts 11-5

Pats 11-5

 
I think this seems about rightTitans 13-3Jets 12-4Steelers or Ravens 10-6 (too close to call, whoever wins the rematch)Broncos 8-8 (I don't see the Chargers winning more than 3 games)Colts 11-5Pats 11-5
:wolf: I think the Ravens/Steelers win their first round, but the Broncos lose big. Indy/Ten will be an interesting game, again. The Jets vs. Ravens/Steelers could be a lesson in defense for this generation. I still think the Titans have the best chance to make it to the SB, but really, anyone could take this conference.
 
meanjoegreen said:
David Yudkin said:
meanjoegreen said:
David Yudkin said:
Bri said:
Dragon1952 said:
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
Pats play home to PIT and ARI and @OAK, @SEA, and @BUF. I don't see NE worse than 4-1 in those game = 11-5.
I think Pittsburgh and Arizona can beat the Patriots, and possibly Buffalo if their D can get healthy and Edwards stops the turnovers.
I think PIT will be a challenge, especially if Matt LIght gets suspended as expected. But the game is in NE and in recent years the Pats seem to have the Steelers number. As for Arizona, that also is in New England, and the West Coast teams playing on the East Coast this year are literally 0 for whatever. None of them have won an East Coast game. The Cardinals for some reason do not fare as well outside of Arizona. Certainly they could beat the Pats, but I would expect New England to win. Buffalo could also beat the Pats, but I think the Pats would be expected to win.
Arizona played well against Carolina on the East Coast. They lost the game, but they were right there in the game until the end. New England isn't that good against the pass, and I think Warner can have a great game against them.
The x-factor in this game is the weather. If it's a nice day than Arizona'a passing game will give the Pats fits. If it's a bad day the Cards could be in for a long one.
Career Numbers: Warner in outdoor games: 262 yards, 1.2 TD, 1.2 INT per game

Warner in indoor games: 262 yards, 2.1 TD, 0.9 INT per game

In games under 40 degrees: 248 yards, 1 TD, 3.7 INT per game (42.5 QB rating)

Granted, he has only played in 3 cold games, but he has not fared very well in those games.
please remind us, what 3 games were those?
 
meanjoegreen said:
David Yudkin said:
meanjoegreen said:
David Yudkin said:
Bri said:
Dragon1952 said:
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
No Pats? interesting
Pats play home to PIT and ARI and @OAK, @SEA, and @BUF. I don't see NE worse than 4-1 in those game = 11-5.
I think Pittsburgh and Arizona can beat the Patriots, and possibly Buffalo if their D can get healthy and Edwards stops the turnovers.
I think PIT will be a challenge, especially if Matt LIght gets suspended as expected. But the game is in NE and in recent years the Pats seem to have the Steelers number. As for Arizona, that also is in New England, and the West Coast teams playing on the East Coast this year are literally 0 for whatever. None of them have won an East Coast game. The Cardinals for some reason do not fare as well outside of Arizona. Certainly they could beat the Pats, but I would expect New England to win. Buffalo could also beat the Pats, but I think the Pats would be expected to win.
Arizona played well against Carolina on the East Coast. They lost the game, but they were right there in the game until the end. New England isn't that good against the pass, and I think Warner can have a great game against them.
The x-factor in this game is the weather. If it's a nice day than Arizona'a passing game will give the Pats fits. If it's a bad day the Cards could be in for a long one.
Career Numbers: Warner in outdoor games: 262 yards, 1.2 TD, 1.2 INT per game

Warner in indoor games: 262 yards, 2.1 TD, 0.9 INT per game

In games under 40 degrees: 248 yards, 1 TD, 3.7 INT per game (42.5 QB rating)

Granted, he has only played in 3 cold games, but he has not fared very well in those games.
please remind us, what 3 games were those?
Not sure, as I don't have individual game stats with weather records. I posted what Yahoo had listed for his cold weather numbers.
 
It's not likely, but there's a chance the AFC could see a 7-9 playoff team. Sad.
Say the Jets, Steelers, Titans win their divisions and 7-9 wins the West.Pats win 4 of 5 = 11-5Ravens win 4 of 5 = 11-5Colts win 4 of 5 = 11-5An 11-5 team would have to miss the playoffs.It is not possible for there to be 3 non-division winners in the AFC tied for the wildcard at 12-4, so no 12-4 team could not be denied the playoffs in the AFC this year.Jets or Pats would win the East (and the runner up a WC)Browns or Ravens would win the North (but both could not have 12 wins)Titans or Colts would win the South (and the runner up a WC)So there would be 3 division winners and 2 teams tied at 12-4 as wildcards (and either the Steelers or Ravens at 11-5).
 
Here is how I think the seeding will look in the AFC:

1. Tennessee

2. NY Jets

3. Pittsburgh

4. San Diego

5. Indianapolis

6. New England

Baltimore will just miss out, after losing the home game to the Steelers.

 
It is not possible for there to be 3 non-division winners in the AFC tied for the wildcard at 12-4, so no 12-4 team could not be denied the playoffs in the AFC this year.
Atlanta goes 5-0 (beating Tampa) = 12-4Tampa goes 4-1 (beats Carolina, loses to Atlanta) = 12-4Carolina goes 4-1 (loses to Tampa) = 12-4Dallas goes 5-0 = 12-4Washington goes 5-0 = 12-4NY Giants go 2-3 (losing to Dallas and Washington) = 12-4Arizona goes 5-0 = 12-42 of those teams don't go to the playoffs. Meanwhile, a 7-9 team could win the NFC North.
 
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Dragon1952 said:
I think San Diego will catch Denver and get the AFC West crown. Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Jets get the divisions. I think Indianapolis gets a wild card (@Cle, vs Cin, vs Det, @ Jax and then a home game vs a Ten team that has probably already clinched) and Baltimore is playing awfully well with 5 wins in their last 6 games. I think they can finish 3-2 in their last 5 games to finish at 10-6 and get a wild card. Whoever wins the AFC West is toast in the playoffs in the first round. I think the Colts are a team to look out for as they seem to be peaking with 4 wins in a row now and 6 of last 8, plus they are 6-2 in the AFC....the best record vs the AFC next to Tennessee and Pittsburgh.
I think Balt loses to Wash, Pitt and Dallas. The Pats will take a WC easy as will the Colts.
Baltimore continues to get no respect. They beat Miami head-to-head. They're 4-1 at home, with the only loss coming on a last-second TD by the Titans. I don't think Washington comes in and beats them. And the Ravens always play Pittsburgh very tough -- they lost in OT at Pittsburgh in Flacco's third game. The rematch in Baltimore is a toss-up.If the Ravens beat Cincy and Jacksonville, that's 9 wins with an 8-3 conference record. Even if they only go 1-2 in their other 3 (Wash, Pitt, @ Dal), they're at 10 wins, with -- at most -- 4 AFC losses. The Pats already have 4 AFC losses - if they lose to Pittsburgh, that will be 5, and so they'll probably have to go 11-5 to make the playoffs because they would likely lose the tie-breaker with Baltimore at 10-6.

This week should be a good one for the Ravens. They beat Cincy and go to 8-4. If the Pats beat the Steelers, then the Ravens move into a first-place tie and the Steelers go to 7-2 in the AFC. If the Steelers beat the Pats, then Baltimore takes sole possession of the last Wild Card spot, and also get a 2-game advantage over New England for better AFC record.
As usual, :lmao: . I'm assuming a loss for the Ratbirds in Dallas (that's not a good matchup for them in a lot of ways) but they can absolutely beat the Skins and Stillers at M&T. Because of the conference record to which you've alluded, beating Pittsburgh is a massive positive for them, even if they lose to Washington (more so than the other way around).

So the path is clear. But they cannot afford a single stumble along the way. Things are too tight and they're simply not good enough to make up the ground should they lose in Cincy this week or to the Jags in the finale.

You know, I think Vegas had the preseason wins over/under for the Ravens at 5.5-6 (and I still took the under in that thread) so it's pretty cool for us around here that we can even participate in this discussion.

 
The Colts are looking very locked into the #5 seed. Their schedule is very easy the rest of the way, and they hold head-to-head wins over Baltimore and New England. They just beat SD and would destroy Denver, so they're looking good for a trip to the divisional round.

The more I look at the various scenarios, the more pivotal the Steelers-Patriots game seems for the Ravens.

If the Patriots lose, they are in bad shape vs. the Ravens. They'd be a game behind in the standings, and they'd be at 5 AFC losses. Assuming the Ravens beat Cincy and Jacksonville, the Patriots would lose the tie-breaker to the Ravens (whose AFC record would be 8-4 at worst) and would have to finish ahead of them in the standings to make the playoffs (e.g., go 4-0 and hope the Ravens go 1-2 vs. Pitt, Wash, and @ Dallas).

If the Patriots win, then they're in very good shape to at least get a Wild Card. They'd hold the head-to-head tiebreaker over the Steelers, if the Steelers fell into the Wild Card mix. And if the Steelers win the North, it probably means they've beaten the Ravens -- which would put Baltimore a game behind the Pats, and also negate the Ravens' AFC record tie-breaker over the Pats (they'd both be 8-4).

In that scenario, even if the Ravens pulled back into a tie with the Pats, the Pats would hold the Common Games tiebreaker.

Miami: NE 1-1, Balt 1-0

Indy: NE 1-2, Balt 1-1

Pitt: NE 2-2, Balt 1-3

It seems very likely that a 10-6 team -- be it the Pats, Ravens, or Steelers -- will not make the playoffs from the AFC.

 
I'm going against the grain and say that Pittsburgh is the team that misses the playoffs.Jets, Tenn, Balt and SD are division winners.Indy & NE are wild cards. Indy has a pretty easy schedule and I wouldn't be shocked to see them run the table. NE at worst I see them going 3-2 but think 4-1 is more likely with the way they've been playing. Pittsburgh got to go on the road to play NE, Balt and Ten, and then have Home games against Dallas and Cleveland. They could easily go 1-4 over the next five. And I believe if they lose to NE it's really desperation time for them.
Ten could be a gimme for either Indy or Pitt depending on W-L recordIf Indy does "run the table" how many in a row would that be? 10? 9? Boy would they be a scary WC team with that full head of steamETA just looked, it'd be 9 in a row
 
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Schedules:

Pats

13 Sun November 30 Pittsburgh Steelers

14 Sun December 7 @ Seattle Seahawks

15 Sun December 14 @ Oakland Raiders

16 Sun December 21 Arizona Cardinals

17 Sun December 28 @ Buffalo Bills

Fins

13 Sun November 30 @ St. Louis Rams

14 Sun December 7 @ Buffalo Bills

15 Sun December 14 San Francisco 49ers

16 Sun December 21 @ Kansas City Chiefs

17 Sun December 28 @ New York Jets

Bills

13 Sun November 30 San Francisco 49ers

14 Sun December 7 Miami Dolphins

15 Sun December 14 @ New York Jets

16 Sun December 21 @ Denver Broncos

17 Sun December 28 New England Patriots

Ravens

13 Sun November 30 @ Cincinnati Bengals

14 Sun December 7 Washington Redskins

15 Sun December 14 Pittsburgh Steelers

16 Sat December 20 @ Dallas Cowboys

17 Sun December 28 Jacksonville Jaguars

Steelers

13 Sun November 30 @ New England Patriots

14 Sun December 7 Dallas Cowboys

15 Sun December 14 @ Baltimore Ravens

16 Sun December 21 @ Tennessee Titans

17 Sun December 28 Cleveland Browns

Colts

13 Sun November 30 @ Cleveland Browns

14 Sun December 7 Cincinnati Bengals

15 Sun December 14 Detroit Lions

16 Thu December 18 @ Jacksonville Jaguars

17 Sun December 28 Tennessee Titans

Chargers

13 Sun November 30 Atlanta Falcons

14 Thu December 4 Oakland Raiders

15 Sun December 14 @ Kansas City Chiefs

16 Sun December 21 @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers

17 Sun December 28 Denver Broncos

Broncos

13 Sun November 30 @ New York Jets

14 Sun December 7 Kansas City Chiefs

15 Sun December 14 @ Carolina Panthers

16 Sun December 21 Buffalo Bills

17 Sun December 28 @ San Diego Chargers

And "will they be resting starters" teams:

Jets

13 Sun November 30 Denver Broncos

14 Sun December 7 @ San Francisco 49ers

15 Sun December 14 Buffalo Bills

16 Sun December 21 @ Seattle Seahawks

17 Sun December 28 Miami Dolphins

Titans

13 Thu November 27 @ Detroit Lions

14 Sun December 7 Cleveland Browns

15 Sun December 14 @ Houston Texans

16 Sun December 21 Pittsburgh Steelers

17 Sun December 28 @ Indianapolis Colts

 
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Pats have some enormously long streak of Ws against the Bills

Jets and Fins have each beaten them already so I think we're pretty close to knocking them off this list. They do play all 3 again but, I think the odds are really against them

Chargers Broncos should be decided week 17

Colts "can't" win 9 in a row. That seems too many so I guess I'd say the Jags play spoiler and they get one L there.

Ravens and Steelers have similarly difficult schedules. If the Titans game is a gimme, I'd roll with the Steelers then.

I think Miami could sneak in.

4 Ws and Jets not playing hard week 17

13 Sun November 30 @ St. Louis Rams

14 Sun December 7 @ Buffalo Bills

15 Sun December 14 San Francisco 49ers

16 Sun December 21 @ Kansas City Chiefs

17 Sun December 28 @ New York Jets

 
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Pats have some enormously long streak of Ws against the BillsJets and Fins have each beaten them already so I think we're pretty close to knocking them off this list. They do play all 3 again but, I think the odds are really against themChargers Broncos should be decided week 17Colts "can't" win 9 in a row. That seems too many so I guess I'd say the Jags play spoiler and they get one L there.Ravens and Steelers have similarly difficult schedules. If the Titans game is a gimme, I'd roll with the Steelers then.I think Miami could sneak in.4 Ws and Jets not playing hard week 1713 Sun November 30 @ St. Louis Rams 14 Sun December 7 @ Buffalo Bills 15 Sun December 14 San Francisco 49ers 16 Sun December 21 @ Kansas City Chiefs 17 Sun December 28 @ New York Jets
You really think the Jets will have locked up a bye and have no chance at the #1 seed by week 17? It seems very unlikely; basically the only way to wrap up the bye is to run the table the next four games, and that means Ten must also win each of their next four games as well.
 
Pats have some enormously long streak of Ws against the BillsJets and Fins have each beaten them already so I think we're pretty close to knocking them off this list. They do play all 3 again but, I think the odds are really against themChargers Broncos should be decided week 17Colts "can't" win 9 in a row. That seems too many so I guess I'd say the Jags play spoiler and they get one L there.Ravens and Steelers have similarly difficult schedules. If the Titans game is a gimme, I'd roll with the Steelers then.I think Miami could sneak in.4 Ws and Jets not playing hard week 1713 Sun November 30 @ St. Louis Rams 14 Sun December 7 @ Buffalo Bills 15 Sun December 14 San Francisco 49ers 16 Sun December 21 @ Kansas City Chiefs 17 Sun December 28 @ New York Jets
You really think the Jets will have locked up a bye and have no chance at the #1 seed by week 17? It seems very unlikely; basically the only way to wrap up the bye is to run the table the next four games, and that means Ten must also win each of their next four games as well.
I thought two teams get a bye.I was thinking both Jets and Titans get a bye. Like the Colts in scenario above where they win 9 in a row, Titans a week ago, I think they'll be a loss somewhere in there for the Jets. 10 wins in a row seems too much to ask. I do think the games are very "winnable" but it seems more likely that there's one loss.Playoffs and everything aside, if I were to just ask is it likely that team A wins 10 in a row don't you lean toward no? not likely? They're hot right now and enterring the playoffs being 9-1 in their last ten is awesome. I don't think I'm really slighting them here.As far as the Titans, when/if the Jets get that loss, that's 4 Ls and I figure the Colts and Steelers games are then just gimme games as the Titans rest. Lions and Browns don't look like L's for the Titans. The Texans usually play them well but at that point of the season, I think the Titans can win that pretty handily. I don't think the Titans lose 3 of the next 5 where both teams are 12-4. "just" staying ahead of the Jets seems relatively easy in all these playoff scenarios-2 game lead 5 games left.
 
Pats have some enormously long streak of Ws against the BillsJets and Fins have each beaten them already so I think we're pretty close to knocking them off this list. They do play all 3 again but, I think the odds are really against themChargers Broncos should be decided week 17Colts "can't" win 9 in a row. That seems too many so I guess I'd say the Jags play spoiler and they get one L there.Ravens and Steelers have similarly difficult schedules. If the Titans game is a gimme, I'd roll with the Steelers then.I think Miami could sneak in.4 Ws and Jets not playing hard week 1713 Sun November 30 @ St. Louis Rams 14 Sun December 7 @ Buffalo Bills 15 Sun December 14 San Francisco 49ers 16 Sun December 21 @ Kansas City Chiefs 17 Sun December 28 @ New York Jets
You really think the Jets will have locked up a bye and have no chance at the #1 seed by week 17? It seems very unlikely; basically the only way to wrap up the bye is to run the table the next four games, and that means Ten must also win each of their next four games as well.
I thought two teams get a bye.I was thinking both Jets and Titans get a bye. Like the Colts in scenario above where they win 9 in a row, Titans a week ago, I think they'll be a loss somewhere in there for the Jets. 10 wins in a row seems too much to ask. I do think the games are very "winnable" but it seems more likely that there's one loss.Playoffs and everything aside, if I were to just ask is it likely that team A wins 10 in a row don't you lean toward no? not likely? They're hot right now and enterring the playoffs being 9-1 in their last ten is awesome. I don't think I'm really slighting them here.As far as the Titans, when/if the Jets get that loss, that's 4 Ls and I figure the Colts and Steelers games are then just gimme games as the Titans rest. Lions and Browns don't look like L's for the Titans. The Texans usually play them well but at that point of the season, I think the Titans can win that pretty handily. I don't think the Titans lose 3 of the next 5 where both teams are 12-4. "just" staying ahead of the Jets seems relatively easy in all these playoff scenarios-2 game lead 5 games left.
If you're giving the Jets a loss somewhere in there, and assuming a loss to Miami in week 17 (since they are resting everyone), that gives the Jets an 11-5 record. Seeing as how New England would hold the tiebreaker over the Jets in that scenario (IIRC), do you really find it that hard to imagine that NE will be 10-5 heading into the last week of the season? If so, how could the Jets rest players?
 
If you're giving the Jets a loss somewhere in there, and assuming a loss to Miami in week 17 (since they are resting everyone), that gives the Jets an 11-5 record. Seeing as how New England would hold the tiebreaker over the Jets in that scenario (IIRC), do you really find it that hard to imagine that NE will be 10-5 heading into the last week of the season? If so, how could the Jets rest players?
You're right, I forgot the Pats being 1 back. (I still can't believe they won with all the yards they gave up but....) Also you reiterating my scenario I have two Ls. They're smokin' hot right now and I was only thinking one. I goofed some here. Thanks for pointing it out.It's interesting, it's that much closer than I thought.The Pats should handle Oakland no prob. Seattle too. They've beaten the Bills the last 10 times so that seems like a lock.Arizona and Pittsburgh seem like the key games for the Pats.
 
I think the Colts can still win the AFC South. I think they'd need to win out and the Titans would have to have a couple of hiccups along the way. If the Titans were to lose to Houston in a couple of weeks I think that'd be a huge help for the Colts . I know it's asking a lot but I wouldn't rule out the Colts winning the AFC South just yet.

 
Not a lot of love here for my Steelers.
Nobody's dismissing them yet. Any reasonable Baltimore fan will tell you that they're still the better team. But with road games at NE, Baltimore and Tennessee looming and as yet unable to shake the Ravens off their tails, the Stillers are anything but a lock. And that's what makes things so interesting.
 
I think the Colts can still win the AFC South. I think they'd need to win out and the Titans would have to have a couple of hiccups along the way. If the Titans were to lose to Houston in a couple of weeks I think that'd be a huge help for the Colts . I know it's asking a lot but I wouldn't rule out the Colts winning the AFC South just yet.
Really? Wow. Like the other guy predicting the Pats missing the playoffs, this is interesting in a different, unexpected sorta way.
 
I think the Colts can still win the AFC South. I think they'd need to win out and the Titans would have to have a couple of hiccups along the way. If the Titans were to lose to Houston in a couple of weeks I think that'd be a huge help for the Colts . I know it's asking a lot but I wouldn't rule out the Colts winning the AFC South just yet.
Colts are still 3 games behind. So clealry they would have to beat the Titans in Week 17. Tennessee would still have to lose two more out of DET, CLE, PIT, amd HOU while IND would have to win out. Unless TEN lost to DET as their other loss, IND would win a tiebreak situation (in this scenario) with a better conference record. But I still wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this to play out.
 
I think the Colts can still win the AFC South. I think they'd need to win out and the Titans would have to have a couple of hiccups along the way. If the Titans were to lose to Houston in a couple of weeks I think that'd be a huge help for the Colts . I know it's asking a lot but I wouldn't rule out the Colts winning the AFC South just yet.
Colts are still 3 games behind. So clealry they would have to beat the Titans in Week 17. Tennessee would still have to lose two more out of DET, CLE, PIT, amd HOU while IND would have to win out. Unless TEN lost to DET as their other loss, IND would win a tiebreak situation (in this scenario) with a better conference record. But I still wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this to play out.
Correct. 18to88.com, a Colts blog, also did the math. The Titans will certainly win the AFC South.
 
After looking into it further it's going to be tough if not impossible for the Colts to win the AFC South through a tie breaker. Assuming both teams finish 12-4 If the Titans beat the Texans they'll clinch the divisional record tie breaker 5-1 v 4-2 so the Colts can't get the division that way.

If both teams somehow finish tied in the division at 4-2 the next tie breaker (record vs common opponents) is where the Colts are seemingly stuck. As of right now the Titans are 9-0 vs common opponents whereas the Colts are 4-4. All of the Titans and Colts remaining games are against common opponents so the best the Colts can do in this regard is 9-4. If the Titans win one more game against a common opponent they'll have 10 wins which the Colts cannot match. Even if the Titans were to somehow lose every remaining game (which is nigh-impossible but just for example's sake) and the Colts went 3-2 over their last 5 and both teams finished 10-6 the Titans would still have the better record vs common opponents 9-5 vs 7-6.

Unless I'm missing something the Colts cannot win the AFC South through a tie breaker. They have to hope that the Titans lose at least 4 out of their last 5 games. If they beat any 2 of Cleveland, Detroit, or Houston that's it.

 
After looking into it further it's going to be tough if not impossible for the Colts to win the AFC South through a tie breaker. Assuming both teams finish 12-4 If the Titans beat the Texans they'll clinch the divisional record tie breaker 5-1 v 4-2 so the Colts can't get the division that way. If both teams somehow finish tied in the division at 4-2 the next tie breaker (record vs common opponents) is where the Colts are seemingly stuck. As of right now the Titans are 9-0 vs common opponents whereas the Colts are 4-4. All of the Titans and Colts remaining games are against common opponents so the best the Colts can do in this regard is 9-4. If the Titans win one more game against a common opponent they'll have 10 wins which the Colts cannot match. Even if the Titans were to somehow lose every remaining game (which is nigh-impossible but just for example's sake) and the Colts went 3-2 over their last 5 and both teams finished 10-6 the Titans would still have the better record vs common opponents 9-5 vs 7-6. Unless I'm missing something the Colts cannot win the AFC South through a tie breaker. They have to hope that the Titans lose at least 4 out of their last 5 games. If they beat any 2 of Cleveland, Detroit, or Houston that's it.
I forgot the order of the tiebreakers, forgeting that common games comes before conference record.Here are the criteria . . .1. Head-to-head (games between the clubs).Assuming both teams are 12-4, each team would have won one game against each other.2. Best won-lost percentage in games played within the division.If TEN loses to HOU, both would be 4-2 within the division.3. Best won-lost percentage in common games.Assuming TEN and IND both have 4 losses:TEN 12-4 (IND, HOU, PIT, NYJ)IND 12-4 (CHI, JAC, GB, TEN)Common opponents:IND 8-3Beat MIN, PIT, HOU, HOU, JAC, CIN, DET, CLELost to CHI, JAC, GBTitans 9-2Beat CHI, MIN, JAC, JAC, GB, CIN, BAL, DET, HOULost to PIT, HOUThat would be it right there, as IND only has common games left with the Titans so they couldn't end up in a tie in common games. (Giving the Titans another loss to a common opponent would only give them 11 wins.) So the only way IND could win the division is at 12-4 and the Titans being a game worse than the Colts.The remaining order of tiebreakers should people be interested . . .4. Best won-lost- percentage in games played within the conference. 5. Strength of victory. 6. Strength of schedule. 7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed. 8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed. 9. Best net points in common games. 10. Best net points in all games. 11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
 
Not a lot of love here for my Steelers.
I'm a Steeler fan, and I don't feel good about their chance of making it in. Their schedule is very tough, while Baltimore's is not so much. Baltimore's pass rush is the difference in their 2nd game in my opinion, and I think that is the game that decides it all. Whoever is 2nd in the AFCN will likely miss the playoffs thanks to some cake schedules for the other wild card hopefuls. 10 wins may not be enough, while we coule see a .500 team make it in. Sucks, but them's the breaks.
 
I think the Colts can still win the AFC South. I think they'd need to win out and the Titans would have to have a couple of hiccups along the way. If the Titans were to lose to Houston in a couple of weeks I think that'd be a huge help for the Colts . I know it's asking a lot but I wouldn't rule out the Colts winning the AFC South just yet.
while mathmatically possible, the "Titans are AFC-S Champs!" ship is about to set sailthe musical chairs between:

Pitts

Balt

NYJ

NE

Indy

will be interesting to watch, as only 4 of these go...

a good football team will be sitting home in January

 
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The Steelers - Patriots matchup is as critical as it can get for a regular season game. Whichever team loses this game probably isn't making the playoffs.

If Indy wins in Cleveland on Sunday I think they'll be good to go in terms of a playoff spot. I can't see them losing home games to the Bengals and Lions. Add to their playoff tiebreaker advantages over the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, and Chargers it would seem like they're a lock for a spot. As long as they don't slip up against the Browns.

 
The Steelers - Patriots matchup is as critical as it can get for a regular season game. Whichever team loses this game probably isn't making the playoffs.If Indy wins in Cleveland on Sunday I think they'll be good to go in terms of a playoff spot. I can't see them losing home games to the Bengals and Lions. Add to their playoff tiebreaker advantages over the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, and Chargers it would seem like they're a lock for a spot. As long as they don't slip up against the Browns.
There is a lot of season left for a "must win". The Steelers will beat Dallas and Clevland. Titans will be tough. I don't see the Ravens winning out. So I think it will come down to the Ravens game. Granted, if the Steelers pull it off this week, they have a firm control in the North. A lot of local reporters were predicting an 8-8 or 9-7 season before the season started. I think the Steelers are a lock for 10-6, probably 11-5 and will win the North, or possibly 12-4. Most have thought the Steelers weren't going to make the playoffs all year due to their "toughest schedule in 25 years". The Steelers haven't even got their offense going yet. Big game this week for sure, "must win"......not yet.
 
The Steelers - Patriots matchup is as critical as it can get for a regular season game. Whichever team loses this game probably isn't making the playoffs.If Indy wins in Cleveland on Sunday I think they'll be good to go in terms of a playoff spot. I can't see them losing home games to the Bengals and Lions. Add to their playoff tiebreaker advantages over the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, and Chargers it would seem like they're a lock for a spot. As long as they don't slip up against the Browns.
Even if the Pats lose against PIT, they will likely win the rest of their games (ARI, OAK, SEA, BUF) to get to 11-5. They probably won't hold a tiebreaker against the other teams, but I doubt that all the teams competing for playoff spots would be 11-5 (NYJ, PIT, BAL, IND).Don't forget about MIA. They face STL, BUF, SF, KC, and NYJ. They could be in the mix until the end, and if the Jets have nothing to gain by winning Week 17 the Phins could be another team to consider here. Buffalo also could make some noise if they get hot, but IMO I think MIA has a better chance than the Bills at this point.
 

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