What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

AFC Title Game Discussion: Colts/Pats (1 Viewer)

Talk about possibly passing the torch. If Luck can beat both of the QBs that ruled the past 15 years...welcome to the new era.

 
As a Pats fan, I like the matchup. Luck is excellent but makes a lot of mistakes. The TEs scare me but Revis on Hilton should work in NEs favor. On the other side, who knows about the Colts D against a greatly diminished Manning.

Pats have got to be a 10+ point favorite.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Workhorse said:
As a Pats fan, I like the matchup. Luck is excellent but makes a lot of mistakes. The TEs scare me but Revis on Hilton should work in NEs favor. On the other side, who knows about the Colts D against a greatly diminished Manning.

Pats have got to be a 10+ point favorite.
Click to expand...
Aren't the Pats putting Revis on the #2 receiver and doubling the #1 guy?
 
I'm not usually confident as a Pats fan but we have owned Luck, Pagano and the Colts D so far in their early run. I don't see that changing on Sunday. The only way the Colts win is to win a shootout, 38-35 ish. I don't see the Colts keeping up. The Pats will carve up Darius Butler and their leaky secondary and we have been able to pound the ball vs them in the past as well.

If we can get the defense back on track I think it's going to be a long day for Indy. This is not a good matchup for them.

 
Hopefully the Pats don't take this game for granted. I don't think it'll be as easy as it looks, considering Indy is coming off a huge win. Luck still makes mistakes and the Colts don't really have an answer for Gronk, so they should be able to pull out the win.

 
Didn't see anyway the Colts were beating Denver and don't see them going into Foxboro and winning.

Going Pats 34 - Colts 24

Pat's D looked pretty bad throughout the Ravens game though, Luck is big time, Herron looks good, and Colts have a great Special Teams. Will be an entertaining game.

 
Indy matches up better than they are getting credit for. Their CBs can take away Pats WR. The issue will be finding an answer for Gronk because Landry is a real liability in coverage. I'd isolate Davis and double Gronk, personally.

Luck is good enough to move the ball vs. NE but turnovers have hurt him this year. Really, it's the Indy oline that scares me most though. They will need to play much better than they did the first meeting. They were decent today vs. Den so maybe they are better.

 
jurb26 said:
Indy matches up better than they are getting credit for. Their CBs can take away Pats WR. The issue will be finding an answer for Gronk because Landry is a real liability in coverage. I'd isolate Davis and double Gronk, personally.

Luck is good enough to move the ball vs. NE but turnovers have hurt him this year. Really, it's the Indy oline that scares me most though. They will need to play much better than they did the first meeting. They were decent today vs. Den so maybe they are better.
Click to expand...
Aside from Davis the Indy secondary is horrible. Peyton missed a ton of throws tonight and Denver also dropped a few balls. I'm not impressed with Indy's defense after seeing them shredded by the Pats earlier this year and by the Cowboys less than a month ago. They are not good. The Pats will score, if their defense doesn't implode they will win by double digits going away.

 
I'm hoping for Indy, but I'll take NE -7 all day.

Edit: Actually, I take that back. NE has had lots of close games and I can see Indy keeping it tight. This spread seems about right.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I don't like this matchup for the Colts at all. I think the Pats had their scare against the Ravens but they'll beat the Colts by at least 10.

 
I think Pats would have to do a lot wrong to lose this game. The Pagano/Luck Colts have played NE three times in three years:

59-24

43-22

42-20

Not sure what has changed that we should expect much different. Obviously anything can happen, but if Pats can execute their game plan and not have a bunch of turnovers, they can win by 10 bringing their B-game vs Colts. I think they just matchup well against them.

 
teams that allow 30 in a playoff win

2014 Patriots -
2013 Colts - 0-1 lost to Patriots
2012 Ravens - 2-0 beat Patriots and 49ers
2012 49ers - 1-1 beat Falcons, lost to Ravens
2011 49ers - 0-1 lost to Giants
2010 Seahawks - 0-1 lost to Bears
2009 Cardinals - 0-1 lost to Saints
2006 Colts - 1-0 beat Bears
2003 Colts - 0-1 lost to Patriots
2002 49ers - 0-1 lost to Buccaneers
2002 Steelers - 0-1 lost to Titans
2002 Titans - 0-1 lost to Raiders
1999 Rams - 2-0 beat Buccaneers and Titans
1995 Eagles - 0-1 lost to Cowboys
1992 Bills - 2-1 beat Steelers and Dolphins, lost to Cowboys
1990 Bills - 1-1 beat Raiders, lost to Giants
1989 Browns - 0-1 lost to Broncos
1987 Broncos - 0-1 lost to Redskins
1981 Chargers - 0-1 lost to Bengals
1977 Raiders - 0-1 lost to Broncos

record: 9-16, 3 super bowl wins
 
A closer look at the 3 teams to allow 30 and still win the Super Bowl shows that the Colts and Rams allowed 30 under a dome (no weather, fast track). The Ravens allowed 30 on grass.

 
Colts O-line improved because Cherilus is out.

It appears only Luck makes mistakes and Brady never.

If the Colts O and D Lines play like they did yesterday, they have a punchers chance.

 
pizzatyme said:
Colts O-line improved because Cherilus is out.

It appears only Luck makes mistakes and Brady never.

If the Colts O and D Lines play like they did yesterday, they have a punchers chance.
Click to expand...
both of Luck's INTs yesterday seemed like calculated risks on 3rd down, essentially each worked out like a punt. The Pats are pretty good at shutting down a team's top option or two so I think the game comes down to how well Luck can thrive by constantly going to his 3rd, 4th and 5th options.

 
jurb26 said:
Indy matches up better than they are getting credit for. Their CBs can take away Pats WR. The issue will be finding an answer for Gronk because Landry is a real liability in coverage. I'd isolate Davis and double Gronk, personally.

Luck is good enough to move the ball vs. NE but turnovers have hurt him this year. Really, it's the Indy oline that scares me most though. They will need to play much better than they did the first meeting. They were decent today vs. Den so maybe they are better.
Click to expand...
Agreed. This game is looking like it will be a barn burner. It could be one of the great AFC title games in a long time. Indy's defense is really on a roll IMO. And that offense is humming. Luck needs to take his game to a new level though. He must cut down on his mistakes to take the torch from Brady.

Should be a great game. I am taking the points.

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
pizzatyme said:
Colts O-line improved because Cherilus is out.

It appears only Luck makes mistakes and Brady never.

If the Colts O and D Lines play like they did yesterday, they have a punchers chance.
Click to expand...
both of Luck's INTs yesterday seemed like calculated risks on 3rd down, essentially each worked out like a punt. The Pats are pretty good at shutting down a team's top option or two so I think the game comes down to how well Luck can thrive by constantly going to his 3rd, 4th and 5th options.
Click to expand...
Yes but he had a few misses on wide open WR's ( just a couple) and there was some confusion on a few WR screen plays.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
msudaisy26 said:
Is it weird that I would have rather seen the Broncos?
Click to expand...
I dont think either team would of had a chance in NE, but peyton v brady one last time would of been good.
Click to expand...
I phrased that badly. I actually think they had a better chance against the Broncos. I like their chances against either, but if a quarterback from the AFC is going into to New England and win it would be Luck not Manning in my opinion.

 
SurferP said:
Certainly didn’t expect this match-up in the AFC. A compilation of experts (Yahoo, USA Today, Bleacher Report) have the Patriots favored at -7 but I’m inclined to agree with @workhorse that the Pats should be double-digit favorites. No way the Colts squeeze out another one (all expert picks sourced here: http://topbet.eu/news/2014-15-nfl-experts-conference-finals-picks-and-predictions-packers-vs-seahawks-colts-vs-patriots.html)

But who wins between the assumed Seahawks vs Patriots SB?
Click to expand...
That's for another thread, but I'm seeing NFC champion favored by 3 points on one betting site.

 
I actually had this match-up. I don't see the Colts stopping the Patriots run game. Hasn't it been twice in the span of sixteen or so games that they got absolutely torched on the ground? I guess they'll make adjustments, but I can't see it being that different. I think the Colts give this a better go than Denver, but still lose by thirteen points. It's a rout. I hope not, but that's how it looks. A NE/SEA Super Bowl.

I wonder how cold Foxboro will be at 7:00 or so Eastern. That's going to be a scene.

 
rockaction said:
I actually had this match-up. I don't see the Colts stopping the Patriots run game. Hasn't it been twice in the span of sixteen or so games that they got absolutely torched on the ground? I guess they'll make adjustments, but I can't see it being that different. I think the Colts give this a better go than Denver, but still lose by thirteen points. It's a rout. I hope not, but that's how it looks. A NE/SEA Super Bowl.

I wonder how cold Foxboro will be at 7:00 or so Eastern. That's going to be a scene.
Click to expand...
looks like it'll be fairly warm

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Ministry of Pain
**Colts at Texans**(-5, 45.5) 1:00
2 3 4
Replies
162
Views
2K
WaltonGoggins
W
Yogibear
Yogi's Projected 2024 NFL Playoff Picture
Replies
2
Views
603
BobbyLayne
BobbyLayne
Ministry of Pain
**Colts at Giants**(+7.5, 40.5) 1:00
Replies
45
Views
750
FairWarning
FairWarning

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Back
Top