AFC Title Game Discussion: Colts/Pats (1 Viewer)

[Kool-Aid Larry]

well, if we're throwing out small sample sizes then I guess you won't be using that playoff game against balt

 

[pizzatyme]

well, if we're throwing out small sample sizes then I guess you won't be using that playoff game against balt

How about the total points scored for the year?

2014 Colts 458 Ravens 409

2013 Colts 391 Ravens 320

Do either of those 2 work for you?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

well, if we're throwing out small sample sizes then I guess you won't be using that playoff game against balt

How about the total points scored for the year?

2014 Colts 458 Ravens 409

2013 Colts 391 Ravens 320

Do either of those 2 work for you?

think I'll go with these, if that's ok:

total points scored for the year

2014 pats 468 Colts 458 Ravens 409

total points allowed

2014 ravens 302 pats 313 .................colts 369

hope your team doesn't do any better than you're doing right now

 

[pizzatyme]

well, if we're throwing out small sample sizes then I guess you won't be using that playoff game against balt

How about the total points scored for the year?

2014 Colts 458 Ravens 409

2013 Colts 391 Ravens 320

Do either of those 2 work for you?

think I'll go with these, if that's ok:

total points scored for the year

2014 pats 468 Colts 458 Ravens 409

total points allowed

2014 ravens 302 pats 313 .................colts 369

hope your team doesn't do any better than you're doing right now

Fair enough. That's why they play the games.

 

[Jrodicus]

Both teams have had some blowout wins, and both have had some blowout losses (more of them by the Colts, including at NE).

IMO, the key for Indy to win is controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.

Thanks to some injuries on the O-line and getting some fresh blood in there, they've looked pretty good in pass protection the past couple weeks. Luck had the two picks last week which were basically punts, but he did a much better job of checking down to the open receiver since he actually had time to go through his progressions.

The defense has also done a pretty good job against the run and at pressuring the QB. Yes, Peyton was horribly inaccurate on the deep ball last week, but not on the short passes. I thought the DBs made some great plays on the ball and what would've been sure completions.

I don't think Indy can win a shootout. Luck tends to make too many mistakes in those situations to beat a well-coached team like NE. IMO, they need Luck to have no more than 2 turnovers and the defense needs to hold NE to somewhere around 4.5 YPC or less.

My head says NE wins something like 31-21, but my heart is hoping the Colts can pull one out, 24-20.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I'll agree with you on that point --- colts have looked much better since they stopped playing the pats

 

[Jrodicus]

I'll agree with you on that point --- colts have looked much better since they stopped playing the pats

Anything that you give requires a shot of penicillin. No thanks.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Have the Colts played any cold weather games this year?

 

[ShamrockPride]

Have the Colts played any cold weather games this year?

When is this extreme generalization going to die..."Cold" is also subjective.

 

[Bossman]

a "well rested" Patriots defense looked like swiss cheese against the less than elite offense of the Baltimore Ravens last week.

Did Baltimore even have to convert a 3rd down on either of those first two drives?

I can only remember the Ravens tearing off 6, 9, and 12 yard plays ... one after the other.

And then that last minute drive to end the first half ... very little resistance.

Pats were fortunate to come out with a victory and were one Edleman "self" fumble recovery away from losing. (No idea how he was able to get the ball back under that pile of Ravens)

Colts were a Flacco "hail mary" completion away from having a home game this week.

 

[bostonfred]

I'll agree with you on that point --- colts have looked much better since they stopped playing the pats

Lol

 

[msudaisy26]

There are a couple things people are over looking.

Baltimore has one of the best lines in the game. Indy doesn't.

Last game has nothing to do with this game, the Colts are a different team than Baltimore. Just because the Patriots gave up 31 to the Ravens doesn't mean they will again, it doesn't mean they won't.

 

[devouredbychaos]

a "well rested" Patriots defense looked like swiss cheese against the less than elite offense of the Baltimore Ravens last week.

Did Baltimore even have to convert a 3rd down on either of those first two drives?

I can only remember the Ravens tearing off 6, 9, and 12 yard plays ... one after the other.

And then that last minute drive to end the first half ... very little resistance.

Pats were fortunate to come out with a victory and were one Edleman "self" fumble recovery away from losing. (No idea how he was able to get the ball back under that pile of Ravens)

Colts were a Flacco "hail mary" completion away from having a home game this week.

Stop trying to compare apples to oranges. The Ravens are a much more physical team than the Colts, and always play the Pats tough. You can sit here and try and say the Pats were "one play away" from the Colts having a home game this week..but let's not forget that the Colts beat a floundering Broncos team who's QB was probably at 40%. If Manning was healthy, Denver rolls over them pretty easy. I'm not saying it'll be an easy game for the Pats or even that they'll win, but the Colts just got blown out by a Dallas team in Week 16 that's pretty similar to the Pats.

 

[devouredbychaos]

There are a couple things people are over looking.

Baltimore has one of the best lines in the game. Indy doesn't.

Last game has nothing to do with this game, the Colts are a different team than Baltimore. Just because the Patriots gave up 31 to the Ravens doesn't mean they will again, it doesn't mean they won't.

Exactly. The Pats defense had one of their worst games all year last week outside of the KC game, and yet they still won. I think the majority of outsiders are looking at that Baltimore game and forgetting just how great this Pats defense has been all season long.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Have the Colts played any cold weather games

this year?

When is this extreme generalization going to die..."Cold" is also subjective.

It is going to be rainy and in the 30s on Sunday night, specific enough for you?

Absent of winning the turnover battle I don't see Indy keeping the game close for more than a half. Pats 44-24

 

[Jrodicus]

I hope the Patriots are disregardng the Colts as much as their fans are.

 

[pizzatyme]

I hope the Patriots are disregardng the Colts as much as their fans are.

Nah. That's never really the case. Some of the fans are just blowhards. It does get tiring however. And I can't wait until that franchise goes back to relative obscurity.

 

[OnTheReg]

I hope the Patriots are disregardng the Colts as much as their fans are.

Nah. That's never really the case. Some of the fans are just blowhards. It does get tiring however. And I can't wait until that franchise goes back to relative obscurity.

'Relative obscurity'. Regardless of when that supposedly happens, you're not going to see a franchise have the continued success the Pats have had for a very long time. If I was a Colts fan, I'd be counting down the days until Brady and Belichick are gone. Must really suck to have that inferior complex all those years.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

a "well rested" Patriots defense looked like swiss cheese against the less than elite offense of the Baltimore Ravens last week.

Did Baltimore even have to convert a 3rd down on either of those first two drives?

I can only remember the Ravens tearing off 6, 9, and 12 yard plays ... one after the other.

And then that last minute drive to end the first half ... very little resistance.

Pats were fortunate to come out with a victory and were one Edleman "self" fumble recovery away from losing. (No idea how he was able to get the ball back under that pile of Ravens)

Colts were a Flacco "hail mary" completion away from having a home game this week.

That swiss cheese defense has giving up a total of 1 TD in the second half of their last 6 games. This great Indy team beat a QB who has never won in the postseason when he didn't have his best receiver and a QB that is the biggest playoff choker in the history of the game when he could barely throw the ball. They are a fraud team and that will be apparent to everyone Sunday night.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I just hope it's a good game.

 

[pizzatyme]

I hope the Patriots are disregardng the Colts as much as their fans are.

Nah. That's never really the case. Some of the fans are just blowhards. It does get tiring however. And I can't wait until that franchise goes back to relative obscurity.

'Relative obscurity'. Regardless of when that supposedly happens, you're not going to see a franchise have the continued success the Pats have had for a very long time. If I was a Colts fan, I'd be counting down the days until Brady and Belichick are gone. Must really suck to have that inferior complex all those years.

IIRC. the Colts have made the playoffs 17 of the last 20 years. We may know a little about success.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I hope the Patriots are disregardng the Colts as much as their fans are.

Nah. That's never really the case. Some of the fans are just blowhards. It does get tiring however. And I can't wait until that franchise goes back to relative obscurity.

Loooooool Sry, i'll Let You Guys Get Back To Chirping About How Your team's Headed To New England To Blow Out The Pats

What Kind Of Chow Are They Serving In The owner's Box For Your Imaginary Superbowl?

 

[pizzatyme]

I hope the Patriots are disregardng the Colts as much as their fans are.

Nah. That's never really the case. Some of the fans are just blowhards. It does get tiring however. And I can't wait until that franchise goes back to relative obscurity.

Loooooool Sry, i'll Let You Guys Get Back To Chirping About How Your team's Headed To New England To Blow Out The Pats

What Kind Of Chow Are They Serving In The owner's Box For Your Imaginary Superbowl?

Who said anything about blowing out the Pats? Or are you just delusional?

 

[Freelove]

I hope the Patriots are disregardng the Colts as much as their fans are.

Nah. That's never really the case. Some of the fans are just blowhards. It does get tiring however. And I can't wait until that franchise goes back to relative obscurity.

Loooooool Sry, i'll Let You Guys Get Back To Chirping About How Your team's Headed To New England To Blow Out The Pats

What Kind Of Chow Are They Serving In The owner's Box For Your Imaginary Superbowl?

Who said anything about blowing out the Pats? Or are you just delusional?

Yeah that was odd.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Ok, Just Change That To Run Up Th Score If You Web Warriors Need To Nitpick The semantics

 

[rockaction]

Really good article from Danny Kelly of @FieldGulls fame about Boom Herron.

BTW, NE talk radio has been crapping on Boom all week. Big mistake. I've watched Indy all year because of fantasy, and Boom is easily their best all-around back. Just a night-and-day difference to that offense with him in the game vs. Trent or Ahmad.

One big caveat: The fumbles. Every time Justin Forsett ran the football last week, NE was coming in to punch the ball away. You could tell they'd been coached to do it. It was a remarkable performance by Forsett not to give the ball up. Let's see if Herron can hold up and keep his positive yards a net positive for the team.

eta* http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/16/7554485/colts-patriots-dan-boom-herron-afc-championship-game

 

[pizzatyme]

Really good article from Danny Kelly of @FieldGulls fame about Boom Herron.

BTW, NE talk radio has been crapping on Boom all week. Big mistake. I've watched Indy all year because of fantasy, and Boom is easily their best all-around back. Just a night-and-day difference to that offense with him in the game vs. Trent or Ahmad.

One big caveat: The fumbles. Every time Justin Forsett ran the football last week, NE was coming in to punch the ball away. You could tell they'd been coached to do it. It was a remarkable performance by Forsett not to give the ball up. Let's see if Herron can hold up and keep his positive yards a net positive for the team.

Agreed. I've said it all year, Boom is the best on the roster and just needed the opportunity. And you're right, the Pats identify the weakness and attack it better than any coach/team I can recall.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

a "well rested" Patriots defense looked like swiss cheese against the less than elite offense of the Baltimore Ravens last week.

Did Baltimore even have to convert a 3rd down on either of those first two drives?

I can only remember the Ravens tearing off 6, 9, and 12 yard plays ... one after the other.

And then that last minute drive to end the first half ... very little resistance.

Pats were fortunate to come out with a victory and were one Edleman "self" fumble recovery away from losing. (No idea how he was able to get the ball back under that pile of Ravens)

Colts were a Flacco "hail mary" completion away from having a home game this week.

That swiss cheese defense has giving up a total of 1 TD in the second half of their last 6 games. This great Indy team beat a QB who has never won in the postseason when he didn't have his best receiver and a QB that is the biggest playoff choker in the history of the game when he could barely throw the ball. They are a fraud team and that will be apparent to everyone Sunday night.

sheesh

 

[Jrodicus]

Really good article from Danny Kelly of @FieldGulls fame about Boom Herron.

BTW, NE talk radio has been crapping on Boom all week. Big mistake. I've watched Indy all year because of fantasy, and Boom is easily their best all-around back. Just a night-and-day difference to that offense with him in the game vs. Trent or Ahmad.

One big caveat: The fumbles. Every time Justin Forsett ran the football last week, NE was coming in to punch the ball away. You could tell they'd been coached to do it. It was a remarkable performance by Forsett not to give the ball up. Let's see if Herron can hold up and keep his positive yards a net positive for the team.

eta* http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/16/7554485/colts-patriots-dan-boom-herron-afc-championship-game

I'd have to disagree with the bolded. He's their best runner. He's okay as a receiver. He's been the worst at protecting the football. He's horrible in pass protection.

 

[Jrodicus]

a "well rested" Patriots defense looked like swiss cheese against the less than elite offense of the Baltimore Ravens last week.

Did Baltimore even have to convert a 3rd down on either of those first two drives?

I can only remember the Ravens tearing off 6, 9, and 12 yard plays ... one after the other.

And then that last minute drive to end the first half ... very little resistance.

Pats were fortunate to come out with a victory and were one Edleman "self" fumble recovery away from losing. (No idea how he was able to get the ball back under that pile of Ravens)

Colts were a Flacco "hail mary" completion away from having a home game this week.

That swiss cheese defense has giving up a total of 1 TD in the second half of their last 6 games. This great Indy team beat a QB who has never won in the postseason when he didn't have his best receiver and a QB that is the biggest playoff choker in the history of the game when he could barely throw the ball. They are a fraud team and that will be apparent to everyone Sunday night.

So you're saying the Pats' D gives up a lot of points in the first half? Good to hear. I hope the Colts can get off to a fast start then.

 

[Morton Muffley]

I've watched Indy all year because of fantasy, and Boom is easily their best all-around back. Just a night-and-day difference to that offense with him in the game vs. Trent or Ahmad.

Well, you may have watched all year, but I think you've forgotten how good Ahmad Bradshaw was because his stats compare very favorably to Herron's (higher average and more TDs...and he was splitting with Richardson at the time!).

Bradshaw: 90 carries for 4.7 ypc and 2 TDs rushing; 38 receptions with a 7.9 ypr and 6 TDS

Herron: 113 carries for 4.2 ypc and 3 TDs rushing; 39 receptions with a 7.4 ypr and 0 TDs

Really, I think what you've forgotten is that it's not how great Herron has been (though he has been good), it's really about how dreadful Richardson was. What should worry every Indy fan over the long-term is why it took the Indy org so long to realize what the rest of the world already knew (Trent blows)!

Richardson: 163 carries for a 3.2 ypc and 3 TDs rushing; 27 receptions for 8.5 ypc and 0 TDs

As always, just my 2 cents.

*Full disclosure, I'm a Pats fan who is a) excited for this week's game even while b) recognizing that Andrew Luck is capable of putting this team on his back and c)remembers the Pats losing in the playoffs a few years ago to the Jets after crushing the 45-3 in the previous meeting. In other words, I am fully aware that one game does NOT carry over to the next. Should be a fun one!

 

[Bossman]

All this talk, not giving Indy a chance, reminds me of the Pats playoff game vs. the Jets in 2009/10.

Week 11 the Pats pummeled the Jets 31-14.

No one gave the Jets a chance.

Jets smothered the Pats and easily won the game 28-21 (late TD by Pats made it look closer than it was)

 

[rockaction]

I've watched Indy all year because of fantasy, and Boom is easily their best all-around back. Just a night-and-day difference to that offense with him in the game vs. Trent or Ahmad.

Well, you may have watched all year, but I think you've forgotten how good Ahmad Bradshaw was because his stats compare very favorably to Herron's (higher average and more TDs...and he was splitting with Richardson at the time!).

Bradshaw: 90 carries for 4.7 ypc and 2 TDs rushing; 38 receptions with a 7.9 ypr and 6 TDS

Herron: 113 carries for 4.2 ypc and 3 TDs rushing; 39 receptions with a 7.4 ypr and 0 TDs

Really, I think what you've forgotten is that it's not how great Herron has been (though he has been good), it's really about how dreadful Richardson was. What should worry every Indy fan over the long-term is why it took the Indy org so long to realize what the rest of the world already knew (Trent blows)!

Richardson: 163 carries for a 3.2 ypc and 3 TDs rushing; 27 receptions for 8.5 ypc and 0 TDs

As always, just my 2 cents.

*Full disclosure, I'm a Pats fan who is a) excited for this week's game even while b) recognizing that Andrew Luck is capable of putting this team on his back and c)remembers the Pats losing in the playoffs a few years ago to the Jets after crushing the 45-3 in the previous meeting. In other words, I am fully aware that one game does NOT carry over to the next. Should be a fun one!

Yeah. I watched Indy because Bradshaw was my fantasy back. I thought Richardson sucked, so I drafted Bradshaw. Even though the stats don't back it up, I still think that Boom is the better runner than either of the two aforementioned backs. Your point is taken. Thanks for the stats.

Bradshaw was also an excellent receiver, though I think the opposition keyed on him a little as a receiver because of situations. I guess at the very least, we should be thankful Trent is not stealing carries from Herron.

At the very least, this kind of leads us to consensus that Bradshaw was a very serviceable back and probably the lead one for Indy.

 

[Anarchy99]

If I were an Indy fan, I would be concerned about:

- Defense having games where they can't stop anybody. In the PIT / NE / DAL games this year, IND allowed 135 points and 1,519 yards.

- Giving up 144 points in their last 3 games against NE with 9 turnovers.

- Having 5 games this year with 3 or more turnovers and 7 games with 2 turnovers (NE had only 1 game with 3 turnovers and 3 games with 2 turnovers).

- It is supposed to rain the entire game with 10-15 mph winds and temps in the 30s (and as Brady said, he's a ******* machine in cold weather games).

- Brady has a 97 QB rating in 72 games deemed as windy, 92.1 rating in 15 games with precipitation, and 94.8 rating in 47 career games under 40 degrees.

- Luck has a lot less NFL experience dealing with the elements. 74.3 QB rating in 9 games with windy conditions, 90 QB rating in 5 games played under 40 degrees, and no games played as a pro with precipitation.

 

[devouredbychaos]

All this talk, not giving Indy a chance, reminds me of the Pats playoff game vs. the Jets in 2009/10.

Week 11 the Pats pummeled the Jets 31-14.

No one gave the Jets a chance.

Jets smothered the Pats and easily won the game 28-21 (late TD by Pats made it look closer than it was)

That was a Rex Ryan coached Jets with a defense that's 10x better than what the Colts have now. Just saying.. I'm not saying the Pats will roll or it will be an easy game for the Pats, but you can't compare that Jets team to this years Colts.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

all this talk about the colts running up the score, getting revenge on the pats, and going to the superbowl reminds me of those great superbowl chargers teams of a few years back.

fans are just about the same

 

[T with T]

a "well rested" Patriots defense looked like swiss cheese against the less than elite offense of the Baltimore Ravens last week.

Did Baltimore even have to convert a 3rd down on either of those first two drives?

I can only remember the Ravens tearing off 6, 9, and 12 yard plays ... one after the other.

And then that last minute drive to end the first half ... very little resistance.

Pats were fortunate to come out with a victory and were one Edleman "self" fumble recovery away from losing. (No idea how he was able to get the ball back under that pile of Ravens)

Colts were a Flacco "hail mary" completion away from having a home game this week.

Stop trying to compare apples to oranges. The Ravens are a much more physical team than the Colts, and always play the Pats tough. You can sit here and try and say the Pats were "one play away" from the Colts having a home game this week..but let's not forget that the Colts beat a floundering Broncos team who's QB was probably at 40%. If Manning was healthy, Denver rolls over them pretty easy. I'm not saying it'll be an easy game for the Pats or even that they'll win, but the Colts just got blown out by a Dallas team in Week 16 that's pretty similar to the Pats.

your gonna sit here and tell this guy to stop comparing apples and oranges, but then your going to mention how Dallas Beat up on Indy with No TY hilton and nothing to play for LMAOO........ good stuff man let me get whatever your smoking. If that isn't calling the kettle black............

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

a "well rested" Patriots defense looked like swiss cheese against the less than elite offense of the Baltimore Ravens last week.

Did Baltimore even have to convert a 3rd down on either of those first two drives?

I can only remember the Ravens tearing off 6, 9, and 12 yard plays ... one after the other.

And then that last minute drive to end the first half ... very little resistance.

Pats were fortunate to come out with a victory and were one Edleman "self" fumble recovery away from losing. (No idea how he was able to get the ball back under that pile of Ravens)

Colts were a Flacco "hail mary" completion away from having a home game this week.

Stop trying to compare apples to oranges. The Ravens are a much more physical team than the Colts, and always play the Pats tough. You can sit here and try and say the Pats were "one play away" from the Colts having a home game this week..but let's not forget that the Colts beat a floundering Broncos team who's QB was probably at 40%. If Manning was healthy, Denver rolls over them pretty easy. I'm not saying it'll be an easy game for the Pats or even that they'll win, but the Colts just got blown out by a Dallas team in Week 16 that's pretty similar to the Pats.

your gonna sit here and tell this guy to stop comparing apples and oranges, but then your going to mention how Dallas Beat up on Indy with No TY hilton and nothing to play for LMAOO........ good stuff man let me get whatever your smoking. If that isn't calling the kettle black............

if I mention the pats beating up indy in indy with both teams having something to play for is that apples to apples, or is there some sour grapes in there somewhere?

 

[devouredbychaos]

If I were an Indy fan, I would be concerned about:

- Defense having games where they can't stop anybody. In the PIT / NE / DAL games this year, IND allowed 135 points and 1,519 yards.

- Giving up 144 points in their last 3 games against NE with 9 turnovers.

- Having 5 games this year with 3 or more turnovers and 7 games with 2 turnovers (NE had only 1 game with 3 turnovers and 3 games with 2 turnovers).

- It is supposed to rain the entire game with 10-15 mph winds and temps in the 30s (and as Brady said, he's a ******* machine in cold weather games).

- Brady has a 97 QB rating in 72 games deemed as windy, 92.1 rating in 15 games with precipitation, and 94.8 rating in 47 career games under 40 degrees.

- Luck has a lot less NFL experience dealing with the elements. 74.3 QB rating in 9 games with windy conditions, 90 QB rating in 5 games played under 40 degrees, and no games played as a pro with precipitation.

The Patriots are also 87-0 since 2001 when playing at home with an 8pt lead or more at any point in the game. That's pretty ####### impressive.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

If I were an Indy fan, I would be concerned about:

- Defense having games where they can't stop anybody. In the PIT / NE / DAL games this year, IND allowed 135 points and 1,519 yards.

- Giving up 144 points in their last 3 games against NE with 9 turnovers.

- Having 5 games this year with 3 or more turnovers and 7 games with 2 turnovers (NE had only 1 game with 3 turnovers and 3 games with 2 turnovers).

- It is supposed to rain the entire game with 10-15 mph winds and temps in the 30s (and as Brady said, he's a ******* machine in cold weather games).

- Brady has a 97 QB rating in 72 games deemed as windy, 92.1 rating in 15 games with precipitation, and 94.8 rating in 47 career games under 40 degrees.

- Luck has a lot less NFL experience dealing with the elements. 74.3 QB rating in 9 games with windy conditions, 90 QB rating in 5 games played under 40 degrees, and no games played as a pro with precipitation.

The Patriots are also 87-0 since 2001 when playing at home with an 8pt lead or more at any point in the game. That's pretty ####### impressive.

holy ####### ####

that's the stat of the week

 

[devouredbychaos]

If I were an Indy fan, I would be concerned about:

- Defense having games where they can't stop anybody. In the PIT / NE / DAL games this year, IND allowed 135 points and 1,519 yards.

- Giving up 144 points in their last 3 games against NE with 9 turnovers.

- Having 5 games this year with 3 or more turnovers and 7 games with 2 turnovers (NE had only 1 game with 3 turnovers and 3 games with 2 turnovers).

- It is supposed to rain the entire game with 10-15 mph winds and temps in the 30s (and as Brady said, he's a ******* machine in cold weather games).

- Brady has a 97 QB rating in 72 games deemed as windy, 92.1 rating in 15 games with precipitation, and 94.8 rating in 47 career games under 40 degrees.

- Luck has a lot less NFL experience dealing with the elements. 74.3 QB rating in 9 games with windy conditions, 90 QB rating in 5 games played under 40 degrees, and no games played as a pro with precipitation.

The Patriots are also 87-0 since 2001 when playing at home with an 8pt lead or more at any point in the game. That's pretty ####### impressive.

holy ####### ####

that's the stat of the week

Seriously. I just saw it in an article over on Football Outsiders previewing the AFC Championship.

 

[Niles Standish]

I hope the Patriots are disregardng the Colts as much as their fans are.

Nah. That's never really the case. Some of the fans are just blowhards. It does get tiring however. And I can't wait until that franchise goes back to relative obscurity.

'Relative obscurity'. Regardless of when that supposedly happens, you're not going to see a franchise have the continued success the Pats have had for a very long time. If I was a Colts fan, I'd be counting down the days until Brady and Belichick are gone. Must really suck to have that inferior complex all those years.

IIRC. the Colts have made the playoffs 17 of the last 20 years. We may know a little about success.

16 which is still very impressive. And we will probably be saying 25 of 30 in 10 years.

 

[JIslander]

If I were an Indy fan, I would be concerned about:

- Defense having games where they can't stop anybody. In the PIT / NE / DAL games this year, IND allowed 135 points and 1,519 yards.

- Giving up 144 points in their last 3 games against NE with 9 turnovers.

- Having 5 games this year with 3 or more turnovers and 7 games with 2 turnovers (NE had only 1 game with 3 turnovers and 3 games with 2 turnovers).

- It is supposed to rain the entire game with 10-15 mph winds and temps in the 30s (and as Brady said, he's a ******* machine in cold weather games).

- Brady has a 97 QB rating in 72 games deemed as windy, 92.1 rating in 15 games with precipitation, and 94.8 rating in 47 career games under 40 degrees.

- Luck has a lot less NFL experience dealing with the elements. 74.3 QB rating in 9 games with windy conditions, 90 QB rating in 5 games played under 40 degrees, and no games played as a pro with precipitation.

The Patriots are also 87-0 since 2001 when playing at home with an 8pt lead or more at any point in the game. That's pretty ####### impressive.

holy ####### ####

that's the stat of the week

Seriously. I just saw it in an article over on Football Outsiders previewing the AFC Championship.

wow --so basically,Pats fans are saying ZERO chance for Indy in this game. Go Colts. funny... even if they make it thru to SB, its like re-arranging chairs on the Titanic. Gonna love the fall out here

 

[Run It Up]

Football Outsiders article on the game:

Getting behind in Foxboro is a death sentence. Since 2001, only three teams have won in New England after trailing in the second half. Who was the last team to pull that off? It was Baltimore in the 2012 AFC Championship Game. Overall, the Patriots are 87-0 at home since 2001 when leading by at least eight points at any time in the game.

Lol, scroll up, see mentions of the article already.

 

[devouredbychaos]

If I were an Indy fan, I would be concerned about:

- Defense having games where they can't stop anybody. In the PIT / NE / DAL games this year, IND allowed 135 points and 1,519 yards.

- Giving up 144 points in their last 3 games against NE with 9 turnovers.

- Having 5 games this year with 3 or more turnovers and 7 games with 2 turnovers (NE had only 1 game with 3 turnovers and 3 games with 2 turnovers).

- It is supposed to rain the entire game with 10-15 mph winds and temps in the 30s (and as Brady said, he's a ******* machine in cold weather games).

- Brady has a 97 QB rating in 72 games deemed as windy, 92.1 rating in 15 games with precipitation, and 94.8 rating in 47 career games under 40 degrees.

- Luck has a lot less NFL experience dealing with the elements. 74.3 QB rating in 9 games with windy conditions, 90 QB rating in 5 games played under 40 degrees, and no games played as a pro with precipitation.

The Patriots are also 87-0 since 2001 when playing at home with an 8pt lead or more at any point in the game. That's pretty ####### impressive.

holy ####### ####

that's the stat of the week

Seriously. I just saw it in an article over on Football Outsiders previewing the AFC Championship.

wow --so basically,Pats fans are saying ZERO chance for Indy in this game. Go Colts. funny... even if they make it thru to SB, its like re-arranging chairs on the Titanic. Gonna love the fall out here

When did I ever say Indy doesn't have a chance?? Your Pats hate is hilarious kid. Your such a salty little #####. Too bad your Ravens choked last week

 

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The weather if the forecast is correct will play a major role in the game, especially in the second half (95% chance of rain). Too bad it wasn't colder as it would be a major blizzard. The inclement weather is not what the Pats needed as I think in good conditions they would throttle Indy. They may still do it but I don't like the forecast.

 

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Maybe it's just my bad recollection, but Belickick seem to be more complimentary of Luck than any player I can remember him talking about.

 

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Indy matches up better than they are getting credit for. Their CBs can take away Pats WR. The issue will be finding an answer for Gronk because Landry is a real liability in coverage. I'd isolate Davis and double Gronk, personally.

Luck is good enough to move the ball vs. NE but turnovers have hurt him this year. Really, it's the Indy oline that scares me most though. They will need to play much better than they did the first meeting. They were decent today vs. Den so maybe they are better.

Aside from Davis the Indy secondary is horrible. Peyton missed a ton of throws tonight and Denver also dropped a few balls. I'm not impressed with Indy's defense after seeing them shredded by the Pats earlier this year and by the Cowboys less than a month ago. They are not good. The Pats will score, if their defense doesn't implode they will win by double digits going away.

I don't know what you're talking about, both of their CBs are good. Davis is the best player on the D and maybe the best cover CB in the NFL right now. He's certainly better than Revis yet Revis gets all the hype.

 

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I'm copyrighting "Vontae's Witness Protection Program" because when you're in his house, you aren't heard from again.

Davis is a beast. Go Colts!

 

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Indy matches up better than they are getting credit for. Their CBs can take away Pats WR. The issue will be finding an answer for Gronk because Landry is a real liability in coverage. I'd isolate Davis and double Gronk, personally.

Luck is good enough to move the ball vs. NE but turnovers have hurt him this year. Really, it's the Indy oline that scares me most though. They will need to play much better than they did the first meeting. They were decent today vs. Den so maybe they are better.

Aside from Davis the Indy secondary is horrible. Peyton missed a ton of throws tonight and Denver also dropped a few balls. I'm not impressed with Indy's defense after seeing them shredded by the Pats earlier this year and by the Cowboys less than a month ago. They are not good. The Pats will score, if their defense doesn't implode they will win by double digits going away.

I don't know what you're talking about, both of their CBs are good. Davis is the best player on the as and maybe the best cover CB in the NFL right now. He's certainly better than Revis yet Revis gets all the hype.

Can't wait to revisit this thread Sunday night. The last good team they played beat them 42-0 with that vaunted secondary.It was a joke. Sorry but the defense isn't good. Congrats on beating two tomato cans in Cincy and noodle armed Peyton. You better hope for lots of rain as the Indy secondary will be carved up by Brady if the conditions aren't brutal.