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After 9 seasons, is Ray Lewis... (1 Viewer)

Is Ray Ray the best MLB ever?

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results of the poll are pretty clear that Ray is not the best MLB ever

I am a little surprised at how many people voted yes
this couldn't be farther from the truth. 1/3 of all people who voted think that Ray is the best ever. And 2/3 of the people think that it is someone else. And those 2/3 votes are divided among 3 or 4 other candidate...not to mention the people who read the question wrong and voted for LT! I very much doubt that any of the other 3 or 4 candidate would get 33% of the votes.In fact, I would think that getting 33% of all votes is pretty much the most you'll get for any player at any position except for Rice at WR. Take QB for example: Yes, Montana is the concensus #1 ever, but I bet he'd only get right around 33% yes votes since so many other people would be divided among Elway, Unitas, etc.

 
results of the poll are pretty clear that Ray is not the best MLB ever

I am a little surprised at how many people voted yes
this couldn't be farther from the truth. 1/3 of all people who voted think that Ray is the best ever. And 2/3 of the people think that it is someone else. And those 2/3 votes are divided among 3 or 4 other candidate...not to mention the people who read the question wrong and voted for LT! I very much doubt that any of the other 3 or 4 candidate would get 33% of the votes.In fact, I would think that getting 33% of all votes is pretty much the most you'll get for any player at any position except for Rice at WR. Take QB for example: Yes, Montana is the concensus #1 ever, but I bet he'd only get right around 33% yes votes since so many other people would be divided among Elway, Unitas, etc.
You can also subtract from the yes votes where the poster never saw Butkus, Nitschke, and Singletary play, and can only relate to the Ray Lewis era.
 
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I agree that pro bowls can become popularity votes (certainly Junior's 12th in his first season in Miami was) but All Pro teams are not and Junior was on 7 of those. Ten LBs make the Pro Bowl every year but only four are All Pro.

And I lived in San Diego for all but the last two years of Junior's career there and I find it amazing that two people can watch exactly the same thing and draw entirely different conclusions.
I'll admit your opinion is in the majority while mine is in the minority it seems.I'm curious, since you got to see him play so often didn't you ever think early in his career when he was essentially a heat sinking missile that often times he would actually hurt the defense by being out of position? Seems to me he was an amazing combination of size/speed at the time and obviously was on monster in persuit but he never had the "football IQ" of a Singletary or Lewis early in his career.

Late in his career you could tell all the tackling had taken it's toll on him. His last two or three seasons in SD it seemed to me that he was almost always a step..... sometimes two, from making the big plays he was able to early in his career when he had his legs.

I give him credit for adapting his game from one of purely physical talent when he first entered the league to one of savvy and experience his last few years but having watched him play often I really came away thinking the only time he really had the two at the same time and lived up to the hype was the middle few years of his career. Maybe the SuperBowl season and the two or three seasons preceeding it.

Don't get the wrong impression. I loved having him on the team and appreciated his leadership efforts on and off the field. I just think when you are comparing him to "ALL-TIME GREATEST" his play isn't quite up to par save for just a few seasons in the middle of his career. Even then he wasn't nearly as well rounded as Lewis between 1999-2003(before injury).

 
results of the poll are pretty clear that Ray is not the best MLB ever

I am a little surprised at how many people voted yes
this couldn't be farther from the truth. 1/3 of all people who voted think that Ray is the best ever. And 2/3 of the people think that it is someone else. And those 2/3 votes are divided among 3 or 4 other candidate...not to mention the people who read the question wrong and voted for LT! I very much doubt that any of the other 3 or 4 candidate would get 33% of the votes.In fact, I would think that getting 33% of all votes is pretty much the most you'll get for any player at any position except for Rice at WR. Take QB for example: Yes, Montana is the concensus #1 ever, but I bet he'd only get right around 33% yes votes since so many other people would be divided among Elway, Unitas, etc.
I agree with almost everything you said but Lott would get 50% of votes at safety. Reggie White would most likely get 33%+ at DL. Anthony Munos SHOULD get 50% of votes at OT, but I'm not entirely sure he would.
 
Also a good call on your part, Raidernation. Brooks is one of my favorite players and obviously one of his strengths is pass coverage. I'd be tempted to take him ahead of LT.
:eek: :excited: :lmao: I love Derrick Brooks he is one of my favorite players but you can't be serious.Someone walks up to you and says "it's your turn to take an OLB, your only two choices are LT or Derrick Brooks" And you would be tempted to take Brooks? That's funny! Thanks for the laugh! :lmao:
 
Also a good call on your part, Raidernation. Brooks is one of my favorite players and obviously one of his strengths is pass coverage. I'd be tempted to take him ahead of LT.
:eek: :excited: :lmao: I love Derrick Brooks he is one of my favorite players but you can't be serious.

Someone walks up to you and says "it's your turn to take an OLB, your only two choices are LT or Derrick Brooks" And you would be tempted to take Brooks? That's funny! Thanks for the laugh! :lmao:
You're welcome.I wrote more than once that I considered LT the best OLB in history. Not sure what else you want.

 
this couldn't be farther from the truth. 1/3 of all people who voted think that Ray is the best ever. And 2/3 of the people think that it is someone else. And those 2/3 votes are divided among 3 or 4 other candidate...not to mention the people who read the question wrong and voted for LT! I very much doubt that any of the other 3 or 4 candidate would get 33% of the votes.
Absolutely correct in every detail. It probably follows that in a poll Ray Ray would receive the most votes for best MLB in the history of the NFL.By that logic I guess it also follows that McDonalds is the best food in history too.
 
this couldn't be farther from the truth. 1/3 of all people who voted think that Ray is the best ever. And 2/3 of the people think that it is someone else. And those 2/3 votes are divided among 3 or 4 other candidate...not to mention the people who read the question wrong and voted for LT! I very much doubt that any of the other 3 or 4 candidate would get 33% of the votes.
Absolutely correct in every detail. It probably follows that in a poll Ray Ray would receive the most votes for best MLB in the history of the NFL.By that logic I guess it also follows that McDonalds is the best food in history too.
:lmao: I highly doubt 1/3 of the people over 18 would vote for McDonalds as the best food ever. Best fast food, probably (I disagree, but 1/3 will probably vote for it) but only children actually consider that to be real food anyway. But that's besides the point.

The question is "Is Ray the best", not would he be voted the best. As such, a poll doesn't really mean much. I never had the chance to see Butkis or Nitschke play, I didn't really appreciate Singletary for the player he was either. So as most here it seems, I can only speak for what I have seen, and that is to say Ray is the best MLB I have ever seen and he should be discussed among the best.

 
this couldn't be farther from the truth. 1/3 of all people who voted think that Ray is the best ever. And 2/3 of the people think that it is someone else. And those 2/3 votes are divided among 3 or 4 other candidate...not to mention the people who read the question wrong and voted for LT! I very much doubt that any of the other 3 or 4 candidate would get 33% of the votes.
Absolutely correct in every detail. It probably follows that in a poll Ray Ray would receive the most votes for best MLB in the history of the NFL.By that logic I guess it also follows that McDonalds is the best food in history too.
:lmao: I highly doubt 1/3 of the people over 18 would vote for McDonalds as the best food ever. Best fast food, probably (I disagree, but 1/3 will probably vote for it) but only children actually consider that to be real food anyway.
60 billion served. Can 60 billion people be wrong? ;)
 
Much like the best players in college often don't become the best players in the NFL, I believe the best players of the 60s would not become the best players of today. The game is constantly evolving. There are many reasons to say Butkus wouldn't succeed in today's NFL - speed, schemes, rules changes - but there are few if any to say Lewis wouldn't succeed in the late 60s NFL. In fact, I'd laugh in your face if you told me he wouldn't absolutely maul Leroy Kelly or Gayle Sayers.

 

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