Ahmad Bradshaw Out Indefinitely (1 Viewer)

[FootballGuy22]

Jacobs value definitely is on the rise but the schedule looks pretty tough. I bump Eli and the WR's up a little too as I think they will now throw more.

9 Nov 06 NYG @ NE

10 Nov 13 NYG @ SF

11 Nov 20 PHI @ NYG

12 Nov 28 NYG @ NO

13 Dec 04 GB @ NYG

14 Dec 11 NYG @ DAL

15 Dec 18 WAS @ NYG

16 Dec 24 NYG @ NYJ

17 Jan 01 DAL @ NYG

 

[nkowal]

Just added Ware (Jacobs already rostered). I lke Scott's potential, but see Ware getting more carries than him.

I think Jacobs' role gets increased, but not as big as everyone thinks - as others have said he doesn't fit in that well with the offense and isn't a great runner.

 

[jdubs952]

How long do most players with a cracked bone in their foot sit out?Bradshaw worth dumping?

Bradshaw ran last year w/ a similar injury the last few games of the season last year. He had rods & screws put in his feet in the offseason. I'm not sure if the rods & screws complicate things, but I believe he is considering another surgery now.

 

[GDogg]

New York Daily News weighs in:

D.J. Ware - RB - GiantsD.J. Ware is expected to see increased touches with Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) sidelined indefinitely.Source: New York Daily NewsNov 3 - 12:53 PM

They also noted that Scott's role is unclear:

The Giants also have rookie running back Da’Rel Scott, though it’s not clear if he’ll finally see some action in the offense, too.

 

[the spanker]

Is Helu worth dropping for any of these guys (Jacobs is not available)?

Helu is worthless right now.

Somebody's gotta carry the ball in Washington and Torain and Choice suck.

So does the QB, the WR's and the goose egg they just laid. Fred Davis is the only one on that team with high upside.

 

[sspunisher]

Obviously Ware is more valuable than Scott at the moment, but if he doesn't impress right away, don't be surprised if we're talking about Scott a couple of weeks from now. I'm stashing them both in leagues where I have the bench space.

Jacobs is a gamble IMO. He's obviously going to be the starter by default, but I've always gotten the vibe that he's one fumble away from losing his job. I could have sworn he fumbled last week, but I don't see it in the stats. What do Giants homers think about Jacobs?

 

[groin pains]

Ware has been talked about for some time here but he hasn't exactly flourished. The Giants do know how to scout RBs though, they cut/traded Ryan Grant a few years ago, unearthed Braddy, saw Derrick Ward have a career year. Danny Ware was supposed to continue that lineage but hasn't exactly lit the world on fire in his limited reps. The Giants line isn't what it was but it is gelling.Full caveats.Really tough schedule upcoming, so there's that to think about. 4 of the next five @ New England@ SFvs. Green Bay@ NOLANot that anyone but SF has a great defense, my fear is that with the offense they'll be trailing and thus chucking. You're looking for a checkdown guy here and if Ware can help out of blitz protect and slip out and be that guy, I like him.I don't know much about Scott as a fan, and to me, reading into THIS preseason is trickier than ever given its short nature. Burst is burst and speed is speed though. I'm going to guess its Ware's job to lose. Put it this way, I just added Ware in 3 leagues and Scott in none. Doesn't make me smart or a super home, just where I would see the tea leaves going. If Scott came out of nowhere this weekend, as Braddy did once upon a time, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. I expect SOMEONE to pound the ball and try to control clock against New England. This weekend, if they can, they'll try to run the ball 35 times I'm sure. My guess.18 carries for Jacobs12 carries for Ware5 carries for Scott

I do not see Jacobs getting 18 carries. I do think he will start and split carries with Ware and a little bit of Scott sprinkled in. I would assume the game plan for this Sunday would be to run the ball and keep the NE offense off the field. So, 35 running plays is not out of the question in a close game. If NE goes up big early, I see Ware being the better play only because of his pass catching abilities. Bottom line, it's a crap shoot!

 

[SleeperPix]

Who is FBG promoting?

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

For those keeping track of my first 5 picks this year in my redraft league...Round 1 - Darren McFaddenRound 2 - Andre JohnsonRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny BrittIt's been one of those years.

Crap...I just traded for VJax

 

[Raiderfan32904]

This thread was :crickets: for a few minutes. Now all of us are back from adding Ware in all leagues. Seriously pissed off owners who didn't hear the news are going to be venting soon.

 

[ldizzle]

New York Daily News weighs in:

D.J. Ware - RB - GiantsD.J. Ware is expected to see increased touches with Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) sidelined indefinitely.Source: New York Daily NewsNov 3 - 12:53 PM

They also noted that Scott's role is unclear:

The Giants also have rookie running back Da’Rel Scott, though it’s not clear if he’ll finally see some action in the offense, too.

Way for the NYDN to state the obvious. Do they think that Jacobs is going to get all of his and Bradshaws carries.

 

[jim k]

How long do most players with a cracked bone in their foot sit out?Bradshaw worth dumping?

This is very bad news imo.This is the same foot with screws holding the foot in place already.Bradshaw ran with a break in his foot before.But his recovery time depends on what they are going to do with the break - can it heal itself, does it need more reinforcement, can he run without causing further complications? Reports are several weeks currently.

 

[sspunisher]

How long do most players with a cracked bone in their foot sit out?Bradshaw worth dumping?

This is very bad news imo.This is the same foot with screws holding the foot in place already.Bradshaw ran with a break in his foot before.But his recovery time depends on what they are going to do with the break - can it heal itself, does it need more reinforcement, can he run without causing further complications? Reports are several weeks currently.

I agree. If this was a first time injury you'd think he'd consider pushing through it (like last time), but now that it's a recurring injury, wouldn't be surprised if the Giants shut him down for the rest of the year. It's a career concern more than a season concern. Just guessing here, I'm no doctor.

 

[hotlanta]

New York Daily News weighs in:

D.J. Ware - RB - GiantsD.J. Ware is expected to see increased touches with Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) sidelined indefinitely.Source: New York Daily NewsNov 3 - 12:53 PM

They also noted that Scott's role is unclear:

The Giants also have rookie running back Da’Rel Scott, though it’s not clear if he’ll finally see some action in the offense, too.

Way for the NYDN to state the obvious. Do they think that Jacobs is going to get all of his and Bradshaws carries.

If you listen to the Rotoexperts on XM radio every Friday morning, they love to poke fun at and pretty much roast the fantasy ineptness at the NYDN.

 

[steelwind]

How long do most players with a cracked bone in their foot sit out?Bradshaw worth dumping?

This is very bad news imo.This is the same foot with screws holding the foot in place already.Bradshaw ran with a break in his foot before.But his recovery time depends on what they are going to do with the break - can it heal itself, does it need more reinforcement, can he run without causing further complications? Reports are several weeks currently.

I agree. If this was a first time injury you'd think he'd consider pushing through it (like last time), but now that it's a recurring injury, wouldn't be surprised if the Giants shut him down for the rest of the year. It's a career concern more than a season concern. Just guessing here, I'm no doctor.

I'm no doctor either, but to simplify Bradshaw's injury to us football fans, he is a running back that has a broken foot. And that's all I need to know regarding his status for the rest of 2011.

 

[Hank Mardukas]

Is Helu worth dropping for any of these guys (Jacobs is not available)?

I just did this. I dropped him for Ware.

ditto.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

By now, some of you have Joe's email that Bradshaw will be out "several weeks". It has a lot more validity than the word "indefinitely". Ouch for Bradshaw owners. Tough break. (pardon the pun)

 

[ScottyDog]

Sigmund Bloom

@SigmundBloom Sigmund Bloom

scott>ware imo ware may have first opp after jacobs, but scott >er talent RT @LottsFinger so who is the NYG rb to pick up? Ware or Scott?

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[coachbobbyfinstock]

As a Giant fan this injury is a killer. As a Jacobs owner I'm not overly optimistic. Jacobs was a good back a few years ago when the giants had a top O-line and were opening up huge holes.

That said, FF is all about opportunities, right?

Ware imo hasn't been too impressive in his limited opportunities. I'd actually like to see Da'rell Scott get some touches and see what he can do.

I wouldn't be shocked if this ended up with all three guys getting some PT- with Ware/Scott splitting carries and Jacobs being the goal line back.

btw-due to injuries I'm going to start Jacobs this weekend.

 

[cvnpoka]

As a Giant fan this injury is a killer. As a Jacobs owner I'm not overly optimistic. Jacobs was a good back a few years ago when the giants had a top O-line and were opening up huge holes. That said, FF is all about opportunities, right? Ware imo hasn't been too impressive in his limited opportunities. I'd actually like to see Da'rell Scott get some touches and see what he can do. I wouldn't be shocked if this ended up with all three guys getting some PT- with Ware/Scott splitting carries and Jacobs being the goal line back. btw-due to injuries I'm going to start Jacobs this weekend.

the last 6 games of just last season jacobs emerged to up 469 yards at a jamaal charlesque 6.3ypc. small sample and selective endpoints to be sure, but i think his potential is being suppressed itt.

 

[nysportsfan]

Thanks for the email FBGs Open waivers and Ware was available. So long Bernie Scott, thanks for the week!

 

[Hank Mardukas]

I picked up Ware (and Scott if I had the roster space) in every league, as much to see if he can be a viable fantasy player as to keep him away from the Bradshaw owner. I traded Thomas Jones for Aaron Hernandez right after Charles went down, so I'm thinking I might get the same kind of value out of a desperate Bradshaw owner.

 

[netnalp]

Jacobs will be the primary back, getting about 60% of the carries. Though Jacobs doesn't have the greatest hands the Giants still like having him run routes because he tends to do well when being covered by a safety or LB. Last year Jacobs had a good yards per carry.

The main problem is the Giants line hasn't had very good communication and isn't working as a cohesive unit. The Giants have only had one good running game this year. This is limiting the number of rushing attempts and the success of run attempts.

Looks like people are overestimating DJ Ware. He's more of a thumper than pass catcher. He's never been used much in games. Even with an emphasis on keeping Jacobs and Bradshaw healthy last year, Ware didn't get carries in the few games where the 4th quarter was garbage time. It's not like the Giants won't use the 3rd RB if he has something to offer, Bradshaw got more touches as the 3rd RB behind Jacobs and Ward than Ware has ever had as a 3rd RB.

Ware will see about 12-15 combined touches a game. Hynoski will see about 5 more touches a game and Da'Rell Scott will be in for about 7 plays but may only get 1-2 carries and 1-2 pass plays the rest he'll be a blocker. The line just hasn't been able to make the running game effective so far and I don't see the line "gelling" when starters keep missing practices & games due to injury.

If I were to gamble on one it would be Scott because he's the unknown and might have the most upside. He brings speed that the other two backs don't have. It's a long shot, but has the highest upside if it hits.

Andre Brown off the practice squad or signing Darius Reynaud could happen if the Giants put Bradshaw on IR.

 

[Oscar]

For those keeping track of my first 5 picks this year in my redraft league...Round 1 - Darren McFaddenRound 2 - Andre JohnsonRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny BrittIt's been one of those years.

Well let me one-up you on my first five picks:Round 1 - Jamaal Charles Round 2 - Darren McFaddenRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny Britt

 

[Canowupass]

For those keeping track of my first 5 picks this year in my redraft league...Round 1 - Darren McFaddenRound 2 - Andre JohnsonRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny BrittIt's been one of those years.

Nope sorry, wasn't keeping track of your picks.

He already made fun of your reply before you even made the predictable reply. Personally I find it interesting to hear about other people's fantasy misfortunes. Makes me feel better about my horrible luck.

 

[Deamon]

For those keeping track of my first 5 picks this year in my redraft league...Round 1 - Darren McFaddenRound 2 - Andre JohnsonRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny BrittIt's been one of those years.

Nope sorry, wasn't keeping track of your picks.

He already made fun of your reply before you even made the predictable reply. Personally I find it interesting to hear about other people's fantasy misfortunes. Makes me feel better about my horrible luck.

There's a venting thread for that.

 

[netnalp]

How long do most players with a cracked bone in their foot sit out?Bradshaw worth dumping?

This is very bad news imo.This is the same foot with screws holding the foot in place already.Bradshaw ran with a break in his foot before.But his recovery time depends on what they are going to do with the break - can it heal itself, does it need more reinforcement, can he run without causing further complications? Reports are several weeks currently.

I believe the screws are removed when the bones heal.

 

[Canowupass]

For those keeping track of my first 5 picks this year in my redraft league...Round 1 - Darren McFaddenRound 2 - Andre JohnsonRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny BrittIt's been one of those years.

Well let me one-up you on my first five picks:Round 1 - Jamaal Charles Round 2 - Darren McFaddenRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny Britt

Ouch. Be careful when crossing the street. Watch for buses materializing out of nowhere.

 

[qimqam]

Let's not forget Jacobs was out a couple of weeks with a sore knee

 

[Walton Goggins]

I wouldn't want any NYG RB now and all their WR should get a major bump.

 

[TJs]

Or not: "Person familar with Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw's injury texted this: "Not serious injury - should play Sunday. No surgery (needed)."@AdamSchefter

 

[netnalp]

| Ahmad Bradshaw hoping to return in a few weeks Thu Nov 3, 01:38 PM

Updating a previous report, New York Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) has been telling teammates he could miss only two weeks with his foot injury. The timetable would be longer if he needs to undergo surgery on the foot.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/news.php?team=nyg

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I wouldn't want any NYG RB now and all their WR should get a major bump.

Agreed. Glad I have both Manningham and Cruz ready to go while Nicks is licking his wounds.

 

[ldizzle]

| Ahmad Bradshaw hoping to return in a few weeks Thu Nov 3, 01:38 PMUpdating a previous report, New York Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) has been telling teammates he could miss only two weeks with his foot injury. The timetable would be longer if he needs to undergo surgery on the foot.http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/news.php?team=nyg

well this puts a damper on things, but players sometimes are generally more optimistic...

 

[NCPanthersFan]

For those keeping track of my first 5 picks this year in my redraft league...Round 1 - Darren McFaddenRound 2 - Andre JohnsonRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny BrittIt's been one of those years.

Well let me one-up you on my first five picks:Round 1 - Jamaal Charles Round 2 - Darren McFaddenRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny Britt

I know - nobody cares but I had to share in the miseryRound 1 - Jamaal CharlesRound 2 - Chris JohnsonRound 3 - Andre JohnsonRound 6 - Kenny Britt

 

[kimbosliced]

Watched some of Ware's highlights. Doesn't look bad at all. He hits the hole really hard. I think he's better than Jackie Battle fwiw.

 

[compreal]

For those keeping track of my first 5 picks this year in my redraft league...Round 1 - Darren McFaddenRound 2 - Andre JohnsonRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny BrittIt's been one of those years.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Ware has been talked about for some time here but he hasn't exactly flourished. The Giants do know how to scout RBs though, they cut/traded Ryan Grant a few years ago, unearthed Braddy, saw Derrick Ward have a career year. Danny Ware was supposed to continue that lineage but hasn't exactly lit the world on fire in his limited reps. The Giants line isn't what it was but it is gelling.Full caveats.Really tough schedule upcoming, so there's that to think about. 4 of the next five @ New England@ SFvs. Green Bay@ NOLANot that anyone but SF has a great defense, my fear is that with the offense they'll be trailing and thus chucking. You're looking for a checkdown guy here and if Ware can help out of blitz protect and slip out and be that guy, I like him.I don't know much about Scott as a fan, and to me, reading into THIS preseason is trickier than ever given its short nature. Burst is burst and speed is speed though. I'm going to guess its Ware's job to lose. Put it this way, I just added Ware in 3 leagues and Scott in none. Doesn't make me smart or a super home, just where I would see the tea leaves going. If Scott came out of nowhere this weekend, as Braddy did once upon a time, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. I expect SOMEONE to pound the ball and try to control clock against New England. This weekend, if they can, they'll try to run the ball 35 times I'm sure. My guess.18 carries for Jacobs12 carries for Ware5 carries for Scott

I do not see Jacobs getting 18 carries. I do think he will start and split carries with Ware and a little bit of Scott sprinkled in. I would assume the game plan for this Sunday would be to run the ball and keep the NE offense off the field. So, 35 running plays is not out of the question in a close game. If NE goes up big early, I see Ware being the better play only because of his pass catching abilities. Bottom line, it's a crap shoot!

See, to me, this is where real world meets fantasy world. I don't think jacobs is wise for 18 carries, but that said, he's been squawking and he's a vet in the locker room. This is a write off loss anyway, so Tom does well to let BJ run and if he lights it up,'motivated, great. If he fails, Tom is vindicated and he can justify working these other backs in based on BJ being over the hill. I guess where I see it, Pittsburgh laid fhe obvious blueprint to be the Pats. Keep Brady off the field. If Jacobs cant convert firsts, they'll be trailing and have to go to the air as you say. This is jacobs shot to put up or shut up( not that he'll ever shut up)You'll see plenty of him on 1st, 2nd and goaline while this game is competitive. We are all forgetting Nicks though. The Pats will really be able to key on the air game, so establishing some kind of running rhythm will b crucial to staying in the game. But it is indeed a crap shoot

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

For those keeping track of my first 5 picks this year in my redraft league...Round 1 - Darren McFaddenRound 2 - Andre JohnsonRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny BrittIt's been one of those years.

Well let me one-up you on my first five picks:Round 1 - Jamaal Charles Round 2 - Darren McFaddenRound 3 - Ahmad BradshawRound 4 - Vincent Jackson Round 5 - Kenny Britt

I know - nobody cares but I had to share in the miseryRound 1 - Jamaal CharlesRound 2 - Chris JohnsonRound 3 - Andre JohnsonRound 6 - Kenny Britt

This post is schtick, no?

 

[steelwind]

Ware just took over RB pickups of the day in Yahoo leagues at 23,000. Michael Bush at 22,000. Jacobs at 19,000. Scott is far below at 680 pickups. But Bush and Jacobs were obviously owned more than Ware.

This data is just showing what most people are thinking, is that Ware is the pickup.

 

[MarshallRob]

Adam Schefter just tweeted this:

Person familar with Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw's injury texted this: "Not serious injury - should play Sunday. No surgery (needed)."

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Is Ware or Jacobs the play here?

 

[itriple]

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter

Person familar with Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw's injury texted this: "Not serious injury - should play Sunday. No surgery (needed)."

 

[SleeperPix]

Ware just took over RB pickups of the day in Yahoo leagues at 23,000. Michael Bush at 22,000. Jacobs at 19,000. Scott is far below at 680 pickups. But Bush and Jacobs were obviously owned more than Ware.

This data is just showing what most people are thinking, is that Ware is the pickup.

Or that most people are sheep

 

[BradtheAg]

just dropped jacobs for ringer yesterday in multiple leagues. nice

 

[glong989]

AdamSchefter Adam SchefterPerson familar with Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw's injury texted this: "Not serious injury - should play Sunday. No surgery (needed)."

And Arian Foster told everyone he would be ready opening day..

 

[MarshallRob]

Source: Ahmad Bradshaw Breaks Foot

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- New York Giants running back Ahmad Bradshaw has a cracked bone in his foot, a source told ESPNNewYork.com on Thursday.

A source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that the injury is not considered serious and that Bradshaw "should play Sunday." However, Giants coach Tom Coughlin said that doctors will decide if surgery is needed at some point.

Bradshaw originally suffered the injury in the third quarter of the Giants' win over the Miami Dolphins on Sunday. He returned to the game in the fourth quarter. X-rays after the game showed no structural damage and Bradshaw believed it was nothing serious.

"I got a screw in my right fifth metatarsal two Februarys ago and I think the head of it is just aggravated right now," Bradshaw said after Sunday's game. "I think it will be fine."

In the past, Bradshaw has been able to play on Sundays despite missing practice time during the week due to foot injuries. The fifth-year running back developed a crack in the fifth metatarsal bone of each foot in 2009 but played through the pain to rush for 778 yards in 15 games. He had offseason surgery to put a screw in each foot, as well as to repair bone spurs from his right ankle.

He returned in 2010 and ran for a career-high 1,235 yards and eight touchdowns.

It is unclear if he can continue to play through this latest injury, which was first reported by the (Newark) Star-Ledger.

Tom Coughlin will address reporters on Thursday afternoon to provide more information on Bradshaw's availability.

 

[hotlanta]

Schefter is usually on top of this stuff. Folks, we just got duped by the Newark Star-Ledger.

 

[steelwind]

This is turning into a mess. Three different conflicting sources.

1. Bradshaw out indefinitely

2. Bradshaw says out only two weeks

3. Schefter reports he hears Bradshaw's injury is not serious and he should play this week

 

[hotlanta]

Damn, Damn Damn. I dropped Helu and Hunter in 2 different leagues to pick up Ward to beat out my leaguemates!