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Ahman Green in danger of being cut (1 Viewer)

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John McClain of the Houston Chronicle believes the Texans will cut Ahman Green if he doesn't play this preseason.McClain thinks the signing of Marcel Shipp is an indicator and that Chris Brown might actually be a better option. "At least Brown gained some yardage against the Saints," writes McClain. When it comes down to it, Ahman is old, too expensive, and a lingering injury waiting to happen. He just isn't very good, so this shouldn't be a huge surprise. Aug. 18 - 11:35 am etSource: Houston Chronicle
 
John McClain reports that Ahman Green is faking his injury to be reunited with Brett Favre in NY
See, I can do it too!But in seriousness, non-news. Anyone who drafted Ahman Green did so as their #4 or #5 Rb and won't mind cutting himAnd to be devil's advocate here- since when does the opinion of a guy who writes for the paper mean so much? That's like me saying "I'm a big GB fan and I follow them a lot, so I think the signing of Player X means Player Y will be cut"Not to mention they signed Shipp because Green is banged up this preseason and they need some depth. Yes, Green will eventually get cut, but that isn't why they signed Shipp. They signed Shipp because they need bodies and it's a possibility Green had already punched his own ticket- Shipp didn't punch it for him
 
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I have to say, I am shocked when people actually draft him (I don't care how late)...he really is undraftable and I don't think the main RB battle will be settled until the first few weeks of the season are through.

 
I would take anything McLain says with a huge grain of salt.

Does the signing of Shipp mean anything more than the signing (and soon after dropping) of Mike Bell did?

 
It's true that Ahman Green "just isn't very good," but he's probably the Texans' best RB.

Chris Brown is talented, but is more of an injury risk than Green is.

Steve Slaton might be good. Who knows? He seems like more of a third-down type RB anyway, though.

Mike Bell is gone.

Darius Walker? Marcel Shipp? X.

I don't know why the Texans didn't re-sign Ron Dayne.

 
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It's true that Ahman Green "just isn't very good," but he's probably the Texans' best RB.

Chris Brown is talented, but is more of an injury risk than Green is.

Steve Slaton might be good. Who knows? He seems like more of a third-down type RB anyway, though.

Mike Bell is gone.

Darius Walker? Marcel Shipp? X.

I don't know why the Texans didn't re-sign Ron Dayne.
:thumbup: because he is absolutely terrible.
 
It's true that Ahman Green "just isn't very good," but he's probably the Texans' best RB.

Chris Brown is talented, but is more of an injury risk than Green is.

Steve Slaton might be good. Who knows? He seems like more of a third-down type RB anyway, though.

Mike Bell is gone.

Darius Walker? Marcel Shipp? X.

I don't know why the Texans didn't re-sign Ron Dayne.
I think Slaton ends up being the guy. Chris Brown could be if he stayed healthy, but we all know that's not going to happen.
 
So did John McClain preface his statement with "yippie-kyyay" mother.......

Looks like Green is headed for the dynasty trash bend in most leagues. Of course there will be those few that will still have him on their roster in 2012.

 
This is a team that might, might slip into the playoffs, but I wouldn't expect it to do much else, and even that's a longshot in that division.

Why would such a team cling to Ahman Green rather than go with one of the younger, untested guys with upside to see whether or not one of them could be their version of Ryan Grant, Pierre Thomas, Ernest Graham, etc.? That to me is the best reason to suspect that Green may not be long for that roster.

 
Buckna said:
I would take anything McLain says with a huge grain of salt.

Does the signing of Shipp mean anything more than the signing (and soon after dropping) of Mike Bell did?
I always thought this guy knew his stuff. :thumbdown: Why should I take this with a grain of salt?
 
billymays said:
Maurile Tremblay said:
It's true that Ahman Green "just isn't very good," but he's probably the Texans' best RB.

Chris Brown is talented, but is more of an injury risk than Green is.

Steve Slaton might be good. Who knows? He seems like more of a third-down type RB anyway, though.

Mike Bell is gone.

Darius Walker? Marcel Shipp? X.

I don't know why the Texans didn't re-sign Ron Dayne.
:lmao: because he is absolutely terrible.
Yeah that 4.0 YPC sure sucked last year. :thumbdown: I don't get why they didn't either. Sure he isn't great and mostly earned all the jokes and bad press, but at the very least is IMO respectable backup material, despite his limitations.

 
Buckna said:
I would take anything McLain says with a huge grain of salt.

Does the signing of Shipp mean anything more than the signing (and soon after dropping) of Mike Bell did?
I always thought this guy knew his stuff. :shrug: Why should I take this with a grain of salt?
He's probably no worse than the average beat writer. This particular news item originally came from a video blog he did and seems to be outright speculation on his part though. Here is the original posting from the Chronicle:
Coach Gary Kubiak said Sunday that they knew Ahman Green would be out for three weeks when he suffered the groin injury. That means he might not play in preseason. If Green doesn't play in preseason to go with being injured for much of last season, I don't think they'll go through that with him again. I think he'll be gone.

I don't think Kubiak and Rick Smith would have signed Shipp if they thought they were going to keep Green and Chris Brown. At least Brown gained some yardage against the Saints.
What I find interesting is that he says Kubiak knew it was a three week injury and Green got the injury at the end of the 1st week. Seems it's basically a given he won't play at all in the preseason then. Strange logic to me.
 
In his prime Green was fantastic. His body has worn out though. I think he would miss more games than he plays going forward, so the Texans figure it's time to part ways.

I think a full-fledged RBBC will evolve in Houston this year. Slaton will get some work it appears, but I have a hard time seeing him being a 3 down back. Maybe Brown and Taylor on 1st and 2nd, and Slaton on 3rd downs but maybe earning some additional work.

 
Buckna said:
I would take anything McLain says with a huge grain of salt.

Does the signing of Shipp mean anything more than the signing (and soon after dropping) of Mike Bell did?
I always thought this guy knew his stuff. :) Why should I take this with a grain of salt?
He thinks that he is better than he actually is. He is an old-school, used to sit at the bar and swap stories type who has tried to become multi-media. As such, Mcclain is good at retelling those stories and parroting the opinion of others. As a beat writer, he does not ask really tough questions and is not a good "insider" who gets news before it happens. Because he does not let much out that the team does not want out, the Texans trust him and he is well connected around the league because he has been in the business forever. He is very weak when asked to any analysis.
 
John McClain reports that Ahman Green is faking his injury to be reunited with Brett Favre in NY
See, I can do it too!But in seriousness, non-news. Anyone who drafted Ahman Green did so as their #4 or #5 Rb and won't mind cutting himAnd to be devil's advocate here- since when does the opinion of a guy who writes for the paper mean so much? That's like me saying "I'm a big GB fan and I follow them a lot, so I think the signing of Player X means Player Y will be cut"Not to mention they signed Shipp because Green is banged up this preseason and they need some depth. Yes, Green will eventually get cut, but that isn't why they signed Shipp. They signed Shipp because they need bodies and it's a possibility Green had already punched his own ticket- Shipp didn't punch it for him
 
John McClain reports that Ahman Green is faking his injury to be reunited with Brett Favre in NY
See, I can do it too!But in seriousness, non-news. Anyone who drafted Ahman Green did so as their #4 or #5 Rb and won't mind cutting himAnd to be devil's advocate here- since when does the opinion of a guy who writes for the paper mean so much? That's like me saying "I'm a big GB fan and I follow them a lot, so I think the signing of Player X means Player Y will be cut"Not to mention they signed Shipp because Green is banged up this preseason and they need some depth. Yes, Green will eventually get cut, but that isn't why they signed Shipp. They signed Shipp because they need bodies and it's a possibility Green had already punched his own ticket- Shipp didn't punch it for him
I created a thread a couple/few weeks back about guys I thought were of value in drafts. A few people chimed in and thought Green presented value as he was getting drafted about in the 8th round. I then went on to say that for me, that was too expensive to take Ahman Green, and then others questioned me about how is it too expensive to get a starting RB in the 8th round.This is why and let me tell you people didn't draft Green in the 8th round as their 5th RB. If you've gone thru 8 rounds and you have 5 RB's on your squad, you don't know what you're doing.
 
John McClain reports that Ahman Green is faking his injury to be reunited with Brett Favre in NY
See, I can do it too!But in seriousness, non-news. Anyone who drafted Ahman Green did so as their #4 or #5 Rb and won't mind cutting himAnd to be devil's advocate here- since when does the opinion of a guy who writes for the paper mean so much? That's like me saying "I'm a big GB fan and I follow them a lot, so I think the signing of Player X means Player Y will be cut"Not to mention they signed Shipp because Green is banged up this preseason and they need some depth. Yes, Green will eventually get cut, but that isn't why they signed Shipp. They signed Shipp because they need bodies and it's a possibility Green had already punched his own ticket- Shipp didn't punch it for him
I created a thread a couple/few weeks back about guys I thought were of value in drafts. A few people chimed in and thought Green presented value as he was getting drafted about in the 8th round. I then went on to say that for me, that was too expensive to take Ahman Green, and then others questioned me about how is it too expensive to get a starting RB in the 8th round.This is why and let me tell you people didn't draft Green in the 8th round as their 5th RB. If you've gone thru 8 rounds and you have 5 RB's on your squad, you don't know what you're doing.
:clap:
 
It's quite possible that this is how it will turn out. But this might just be a ploy to get Green to work on trying to be ready for the final pre-season game. I "think" that the Texans are on the hook for part or all of Green's salary this year, (not exactly sure on the numbers so don't crucify me) which might give them pause on the outright cut.

But its my guess that the Texans aren't done bringing guys in. As the rosters get down to the 53, I imagine a couple more guys will work themselves into a Texan tryout.

I doubt will see SA be one of them, if the Texans are going to go with someone beaten up that was dominate at the start of the century, they've got him in camp now.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
It's true that Ahman Green "just isn't very good," but he's probably the Texans' best RB.

Chris Brown is talented, but is more of an injury risk than Green is.

Steve Slaton might be good. Who knows? He seems like more of a third-down type RB anyway, though.

Mike Bell is gone.

Darius Walker? Marcel Shipp? X.

I don't know why the Texans didn't re-sign Ron Dayne.
The voice of reason.
 
Ron Dayne was actually pretty good last season for Houston. I don't know that they have another back on their roster that can do what he did, which is run the ball 15 times for 60 yards, stay healthy and convert the short yardage plays.

Slaton looks to me like a 3rd down back, and though Chris Brown will probably have a huge week or two that will send owners scurrying to the waiver wire, in the long run he just can't stay healthy either.

 

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