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AirAsia flight missing--Found (1 Viewer)

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http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0K601C20141228?irpc=932

JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia's air force was searching for an AirAsia plane carrying 162 people that went missing on Sunday after the pilots asked to change course to avoid bad weather during a flight from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore.

Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ8501, an Airbus 320-200, lost contact with Jakarta air traffic control at 6:17 a.m. (6.17 p.m. EST/2317 GMT), officials said.

"The aircraft was on the submitted flight plan route and was requesting deviation due to en route weather before communication with the aircraft was lost," the airline said in a statement.

No distress signal had been sent, said Joko Muryo Atmodjo, air transportation director at Indonesia's transport ministry.

Indonesia AirAsia said there were 155 passengers and seven crew on board. It said 156 were Indonesian, with three from South Korea and one each from Singapore, Malaysia and France.

Singapore, Malaysia and Australia had offered to help in the search. Malaysia said it was sending vessels and a C130 aircraft while Singapore had also sent a C130, officials said.

Indonesia AirAsia is 49 percent owned by Malaysia-based budget carrier AirAsia (AIRA.KL), with local investors holding the rest. The AirAsia group, including affiliates in Thailand, the Philippines and India, has not had a crash since its Malaysian budget operations began in 2002.

Flight QZ8501 was between the Indonesian port of Tanjung Pandan and the town of Pontianak, in West Kalimantan province on Borneo island, when it went missing, Atmodjo told a news conference in Jakarta.

The aircraft had been flying at 32,000 feet and had asked to fly at 38,000 feet to avoid clouds, he added.

Tanjung Pandan is the main town on Belitung island, roughly half way between Surabaya and Singapore. There was bad weather over the island at the time.

The flying time from Surabaya to Singapore is usually just over two hours. The plane had been due in Singapore at 8:30 a.m. Singapore time (0030 GMT).

In both Surabaya and Singapore, anxious relatives of people on the plane awaited news.

"I should have been on the flight together with my friends," a man named Purnomo told TVOne in Surabaya.

"We, seven people, had planned to go to Singapore for vacation but this morning I had an emergency. I had my passport in hand but had to cancel the trip."

An Indonesian woman at Singapore's Changi Airport said her sister and other family members, including two children, were on board.

"No one has told us anything. We heard the news and came to the airport," the woman said before entering a cordoned-off area.

The airline said the captain and first officer were both experienced.

Tony Fernandes, chief of Malaysia's AirAsia, said he was heading to Surabaya with his Indonesian management team.

"My only thought are with the passengers and my crew. We put our hope in the SAR (search and rescue) operation and thank the Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysian governments," he said on Twitter.

The incident comes at the end of a disastrous year for the region's airlines.

Malaysia's national flag carrier, Malaysia Airlines, lost two aircraft this year.

Flight MH370 went missing on March 8 on a trip from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew on board and has still not been found.

On July 17, Flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board.

Indonesia AirAsia has a fleet of 30 Airbus A320s. The missing plane has been in service for just over six years, according to airfleets.net.

All AirAsia-branded airlines operate aircraft made by Airbus, which has orders for several hundred planes from the group. AirAsia is considered one of the European planemaker's most important customers.

 
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Who was it that was frequenting the flight nerds message boards. FC42?

I visited the Airbus factory in Hamburg earlier this year. Impressive place

 
Mods: Please merge this thread with MH370 so we can have all the Don Lemon-inspired crazy talk in one thread.

TIA

 
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This is like Honda all over again. For some reason the show Lost comes to my mind.

 
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I think a new missing plane warrants it's own missing plane thread.
Agreed. I don't think Tom meant that this didn't deserve it's own thread. His comment was just made...well...It was the heat of the moment.
Anyways, now that Tim is stuck to one thread, the need to consolidate has been greatly reduced.
Sorry you didn't like my comment. I never meant to be so bad to you. It's one thing I said I'd never do.

 
I think a new missing plane warrants it's own missing plane thread.
Agreed. I don't think Tom meant that this didn't deserve it's own thread. His comment was just made...well...It was the heat of the moment.
Anyways, now that Tim is stuck to one thread, the need to consolidate has been greatly reduced.
Sorry you didn't like my comment. I never meant to be so bad to you. It's one thing I said I'd never do.
I only got 10 likes per day. :confused:

 
Mods: Please merge this thread with MH370 so we can have all the Don Lemon-inspired crazy talk in one thread.

TIA
Sorry. During my bout with insomnia last night I searched to see if a thread was started and didn't think to look in the other missing jet thread.
Doesn't make sense to merge this into the other one. Yes it's Malaysia related a/l but it's not that aircraft and so I for one would never look in there to find this...

 
Very sad. 2 teenage siblings had both parents on board that a/l. Parents were going to meet them for NY festivities in Singapore. Can't even imagine especially as a teen going through this...

 
New threads are good things. You don't have to go searching through a 500 page thread for whatever it is you want to read about and you don't have to try to guess what 3 year old thread your new topic really belongs in only because some people are new-thread-phobic.

 
Surely nothing can be said at this point except that if it is a disappearance (and one of course hopes it is not, that the plane is and will remain safe) or discoverable disaster its sinister purpose would be to brake the consistency of the most surreal coincidence that, like a vengeful ghost, points to the disparate yet coincidentally connected involvement of the U.S. in both Malaysian Airlines disasters. That is, that a potential disaster to a third commercial airline (that is pointedly not of Malaysian Airlines) in the Pacific at the close of the year distracts from the question of U.S. involvement (direct or instigatory) in the downing of the Malaysian Airlines over Ukraine and breaks the surreal, statistically unprecedented, ghostly coincidence and consistency of two Malaysian Airlines planes succumbing to unresolved disasters within the span of months and within the same year and in a manner that as a phenomenon of previously unheard of mystery betokens deception at the highest levels of political and military power.

 
Surely nothing can be said at this point except that if it is a disappearance (and one of course hopes it is not, that the plane is and will remain safe) or discoverable disaster its sinister purpose would be to brake the consistency of the most surreal coincidence that, like a vengeful ghost, points to the disparate yet coincidentally connected involvement of the U.S. in both Malaysian Airlines disasters. That is, that a potential disaster to a third commercial airline (that is pointedly not of Malaysian Airlines) in the Pacific at the close of the year distracts from the question of U.S. involvement (direct or instigatory) in the downing of the Malaysian Airlines over Ukraine and breaks the surreal, statistically unprecedented, ghostly coincidence and consistency of two Malaysian Airlines planes succumbing to unresolved disasters within the span of months and within the same year and in a manner that as a phenomenon of previously unheard of mystery betokens deception at the highest levels of political and military power.
:lmao:

 
I'm not usually a conspiracy theory guy, but this is weird. If you're going to try and steal a jumbo jet, you're not likely going to pull that off with one cruising over Boston. You're going to find one that is on the other side of the world, run by some Asian airline that isn't as sophisticated, without the FAA watching, and one without a ton of US citizens on board so you don't have the US heavy on the hunt. Starting to wonder if there's a terrorist-owned hanger somewhere in Asia with a bunch of "missing" jumbo jets parked inside. You could concoct some pretty awful scenarios if you had a bunch of jumbo jets at your disposal.

 
Surely nothing can be said at this point except that if it is a disappearance (and one of course hopes it is not, that the plane is and will remain safe) or discoverable disaster its sinister purpose would be to brake the consistency of the most surreal coincidence that, like a vengeful ghost, points to the disparate yet coincidentally connected involvement of the U.S. in both Malaysian Airlines disasters. That is, that a potential disaster to a third commercial airline (that is pointedly not of Malaysian Airlines) in the Pacific at the close of the year distracts from the question of U.S. involvement (direct or instigatory) in the downing of the Malaysian Airlines over Ukraine and breaks the surreal, statistically unprecedented, ghostly coincidence and consistency of two Malaysian Airlines planes succumbing to unresolved disasters within the span of months and within the same year and in a manner that as a phenomenon of previously unheard of mystery betokens deception at the highest levels of political and military power.
wat
 
Surely nothing can be said at this point except that if it is a disappearance (and one of course hopes it is not, that the plane is and will remain safe) or discoverable disaster its sinister purpose would be to brake the consistency of the most surreal coincidence that, like a vengeful ghost, points to the disparate yet coincidentally connected involvement of the U.S. in both Malaysian Airlines disasters. That is, that a potential disaster to a third commercial airline (that is pointedly not of Malaysian Airlines) in the Pacific at the close of the year distracts from the question of U.S. involvement (direct or instigatory) in the downing of the Malaysian Airlines over Ukraine and breaks the surreal, statistically unprecedented, ghostly coincidence and consistency of two Malaysian Airlines planes succumbing to unresolved disasters within the span of months and within the same year and in a manner that as a phenomenon of previously unheard of mystery betokens deception at the highest levels of political and military power.
wat
Translation: #### happens

 
I'm not usually a conspiracy theory guy, but this is weird. If you're going to try and steal a jumbo jet, you're not likely going to pull that off with one cruising over Boston. You're going to find one that is on the other side of the world, run by some Asian airline that isn't as sophisticated, without the FAA watching, and one without a ton of US citizens on board so you don't have the US heavy on the hunt. Starting to wonder if there's a terrorist-owned hanger somewhere in Asia with a bunch of "missing" jumbo jets parked inside. You could concoct some pretty awful scenarios if you had a bunch of jumbo jets at your disposal.
None of the missing planes are jumbo jets. HTH

 
msommer said:
Otis said:
I'm not usually a conspiracy theory guy, but this is weird. If you're going to try and steal a jumbo jet, you're not likely going to pull that off with one cruising over Boston. You're going to find one that is on the other side of the world, run by some Asian airline that isn't as sophisticated, without the FAA watching, and one without a ton of US citizens on board so you don't have the US heavy on the hunt. Starting to wonder if there's a terrorist-owned hanger somewhere in Asia with a bunch of "missing" jumbo jets parked inside. You could concoct some pretty awful scenarios if you had a bunch of jumbo jets at your disposal.
None of the missing planes are jumbo jets. HTH
It doesn't help because the Malaysian Airlines was a 777. That is a jumbo (wide body) jet

 
msommer said:
Otis said:
I'm not usually a conspiracy theory guy, but this is weird. If you're going to try and steal a jumbo jet, you're not likely going to pull that off with one cruising over Boston. You're going to find one that is on the other side of the world, run by some Asian airline that isn't as sophisticated, without the FAA watching, and one without a ton of US citizens on board so you don't have the US heavy on the hunt. Starting to wonder if there's a terrorist-owned hanger somewhere in Asia with a bunch of "missing" jumbo jets parked inside. You could concoct some pretty awful scenarios if you had a bunch of jumbo jets at your disposal.
None of the missing planes are jumbo jets. HTH
They look pretty big to me.

 
jon_mx said:
Scoresman said:
Surely nothing can be said at this point except that if it is a disappearance (and one of course hopes it is not, that the plane is and will remain safe) or discoverable disaster its sinister purpose would be to brake the consistency of the most surreal coincidence that, like a vengeful ghost, points to the disparate yet coincidentally connected involvement of the U.S. in both Malaysian Airlines disasters. That is, that a potential disaster to a third commercial airline (that is pointedly not of Malaysian Airlines) in the Pacific at the close of the year distracts from the question of U.S. involvement (direct or instigatory) in the downing of the Malaysian Airlines over Ukraine and breaks the surreal, statistically unprecedented, ghostly coincidence and consistency of two Malaysian Airlines planes succumbing to unresolved disasters within the span of months and within the same year and in a manner that as a phenomenon of previously unheard of mystery betokens deception at the highest levels of political and military power.
:lmao:
"betokens deception"

Rules.

 
msommer said:
Otis said:
I'm not usually a conspiracy theory guy, but this is weird. If you're going to try and steal a jumbo jet, you're not likely going to pull that off with one cruising over Boston. You're going to find one that is on the other side of the world, run by some Asian airline that isn't as sophisticated, without the FAA watching, and one without a ton of US citizens on board so you don't have the US heavy on the hunt. Starting to wonder if there's a terrorist-owned hanger somewhere in Asia with a bunch of "missing" jumbo jets parked inside. You could concoct some pretty awful scenarios if you had a bunch of jumbo jets at your disposal.
None of the missing planes are jumbo jets. HTH
It doesn't help because the Malaysian Airlines was a 777. That is a jumbo (wide body) jet
The only Jumbo is the 747.

Otis: The range of the A320-200 from AirAsia that just disappeared is just over 4000 miles. check google maps on from where that plane can reach the US

 
Yeah, the weather didn't have much to do with it... it was an evil plot of sorts....... :doh:

So do we really need to have live tracking capability on all aircraft because of these 2 incidents? Everyone in the field says yes, but can anyone blame the a/l's for not wanting it? It costs a ####load of money and many of these a/l's are bordering bankruptcy or losing enough dough that this would kill them.--------------- all because there are 2 a/c that are MIA? Not to mention imagine our ticket prices making up for it because you know it would..

 
msommer said:
Otis said:
I'm not usually a conspiracy theory guy, but this is weird. If you're going to try and steal a jumbo jet, you're not likely going to pull that off with one cruising over Boston. You're going to find one that is on the other side of the world, run by some Asian airline that isn't as sophisticated, without the FAA watching, and one without a ton of US citizens on board so you don't have the US heavy on the hunt. Starting to wonder if there's a terrorist-owned hanger somewhere in Asia with a bunch of "missing" jumbo jets parked inside. You could concoct some pretty awful scenarios if you had a bunch of jumbo jets at your disposal.
None of the missing planes are jumbo jets. HTH
It doesn't help because the Malaysian Airlines was a 777. That is a jumbo (wide body) jet
The only Jumbo is the 747.

Otis: The range of the A320-200 from AirAsia that just disappeared is just over 4000 miles. check google maps on from where that plane can reach the US
We've got people and facilities all over the world. :shrug:

 
Was the weather bad or not? Who is currently controlling the weather?

 

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