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Wow 1.12, talk about a tough pick. I hope I dont get that position in any leagues. The worst part about it was Moss was gone and I think right after Taylor, the ??'s start arising. RRBC in Buf, Car, Cin, as well as Faulk injuries.I dont like the Davis pick that much. I considered Harrison, but I really need to get 2 solid RBs considering we can run 3RBs with FLEX.I think this year has a lot of depth for RB2, so with 3RB leagues it makes it very interesting.I said at the beginning of the offseason that I think the best pick this year would be 1.1 because of all the talent coming back at 2.12/3.1. This should be a good draft. I would like to do another after the NFL draft.

 
So what happens if JAA's clock runs out while it's in "sleep" mode?
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This can't happen. When a draft gets suspended, then the clock for the person who's turn it is does not advance until the draft un-suspends. That person can make their selection if they choose, and it then becomes the next person's turn (but their "clock" doesn't start until the draft unsuspends).So, if I have an hour left on my clock when the draft suspends, I have to make my pick within the first hour after the draft restarts. If that doesn't happen the computer will auto-pick for me (except in the first round of the draft).At least that's how things worked last year on xpertleagues. It makes a lot of sense and seems to be a very reasonable system.
 
This can't happen. When a draft gets suspended, then the clock for the person who's turn it is does not advance until the draft un-suspends. That person can make their selection if they choose, and it then becomes the next person's turn (but their "clock" doesn't start until the draft unsuspends).So, if I have an hour left on my clock when the draft suspends, I have to make my pick within the first hour after the draft restarts. If that doesn't happen the computer will auto-pick for me (except in the first round of the draft).At least that's how things worked last year on xpertleagues. It makes a lot of sense and seems to be a very reasonable system.
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:thumbup: saved me by 24 minutes. Good thing I get into work 7amEST
 
Oh, and for you guys questioning my Edge pick, he will be in the top 3 this year. You guys were fools for taking McAllister, Green, Portis, Alexander and Lewis before him.
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lol ... fools? Do you have a crystal ball? How do you know? Actually, you are the fool for reaching. I am not saying Edge will not finish top 3, I am saying his value is not top 3. If you drafted to value you could have traded for Edge and gotten more in return. Instead you reached for somenoe you think will do well.glll peas!!
 
1.12 S Davis1.13 M Faulk1.14 Barlow2.1 D DavisAlright, I know im gonna catch flack for these 2 picks in some quarters. So here's my rational. I left Harrison on the board and went with two young featured backs. Harrison loses value in a 2 WR league, and in a 14 man league moreso because quality backs are in ever higher demand. Tough as it is to let pass a top notch impact player, I demured. The only other real choice left to me was Travis Henry. His fumbling issues and the McGahee situation made me cautious. Henry is basically a known factor, I chose to go with two guys I have a high hopes for. Barlow is loved or hated, so he will be viewed as a coup or a disaster. DD is similar, but Hollings doesnt scare me at all. As far as draft jockeying goes, I think this puts me in a strong position. Im not stuck behind the 8-ball of scrambling for a #2 back, and with 2 young, reasonably healthy guys handcuffing isnt a priority. So my upcoming picks are wide open.

 
Went Fred Taylor as the last of the proven solid options (IMO)Goat Herder shocks me with Moss at 1.11
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Moss was a no brainer there. I predrafted with 2 picks left before me and had it: Ricky, Freddy T, Moss. In most scoring systems, Moss outscored the next closest WR (Holt) by about the same margain that Holmes outscored Ahman. (At least that wa the case in my league). Randy Moss......is the best WR in the league and virtually uncoverable...is on a team that lost its QB for a stretch last year and he still performed well....is on a team that just (slightly) upgraded its WR2, which should help.I DON'T think Moss's numbers will be as good as last year. I DO think he'll be good enough to rank in the top 10 of overall scorers and he'll be significantly better then the WR baseline, which makes the pick all about value.I'm more then satisfied.HERD
 
Alright, I know im gonna catch flack for these 2 picks in some quarters. So here's my rational. I left Harrison on the board and went with two young featured backs. Harrison loses value in a 2 WR league, and in a 14 man league moreso because quality backs are in ever higher demand. Tough as it is to let pass a top notch impact player, I demured.
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I like your two picks as at worst, these guys should be RB1.5 and RB1.5a (maybe not quite top tier, but both good enough to carry you). I do however, disagree with your evaluation of Harrison (and add in Holt to an extent), regardless of league size. In my opinion, when choosing whether to get stacked at RB or take your first WR, I think the choice relies on who will score the highest number of total points. Period. Marvin Harrison and Randy Moss can be counted on - as well as a RB outside of the top 5 can be counted on - to produce each week. As such, consideration for either or both in the top 20 picks is a given. To be honest, I'm a little suprised that Harrison is still available.HERD
 
Moss was a no brainer there. I predrafted with 2 picks left before me and had it: Ricky, Freddy T, Moss. In most scoring systems, Moss outscored the next closest WR (Holt) by about the same margain that Holmes outscored Ahman. (At least that wa the case in my league). Randy Moss......is the best WR in the league and virtually uncoverable...is on a team that lost its QB for a stretch last year and he still performed well....is on a team that just (slightly) upgraded its WR2, which should help.I DON'T think Moss's numbers will be as good as last year. I DO think he'll be good enough to rank in the top 10 of overall scorers and he'll be significantly better then the WR baseline, which makes the pick all about value.I'm more then satisfied.HERD
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I agree with your pick, however I dont think it is a cut and dry as you make it out to be.Moss will do well, that is not the issue. The issue is your RB2/3 and WR2/3. You have to draft very well in the next 4 rounds. It is posisble, just not as easy as taking RB-RB. Im sure you know this, just putting it out there.I would also have taken Moss ... probably.
 
I think the choice relies on who will score the highest number of total points. Period.
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NoIt is the their points, minus the points you gave up for them at other positions as well as what you could have gotten in their place minus what you did get at that position.
 
In the league final points I'm looking at, the baseline between Holmes (RB1) and Hambrick (RB24) was 202. Between Moss (WR1) and Kennison (WR24), it was 138. So, JAA, your point about VBDing is well taken. And as you said, I will need to draft well in the next 3 rounds to make up for taking a WR early. I happen to feel that there are A LOT of RB2s this season and I feel like I can put together a patchwork of guys that get the job done. If that means I spend 3 of my next 4 picks on RBs, as I would have done anyway, then so be it.Its not as cut and dry as I've made it, but its also not all that compicated. HERD

 
Well, here's the way I looked at it. At a bare minimum 14 more RBs are going off the board before it gets back to me. Realistically, probably closer to 20. I could easilly, perhaps probably, have been in the position of having no starting RBs at all to choose from, and even split time backs gone. Picking over backups and undrafted rookies for my #2 would plain suck. I would have been in a position of literally gambling my season on an injury or a rookie, which im not down with, particularly without a lock of a stud RB at #1. Otoh, and for the same reasons, perhaps between 5-8 additional receivers will be going, leaving me with some legitimate #1 calliber WRs to look at. If thats not the case, QBs will not have started going yet possibly giving me my choice of some of the top qbs. If QBs and WRs are somehow going fast and furious (in bizarro world) an additional quality RB could fall back to me. From my point of view, Barlow/DD/Joe Horn (to pick a name) is stronger than Barlow/Harrison/Anthony Thomas.

 
League Name: Offseason SuxNo passwordStart 1/2/2/1/1/114 teams6 hour time limit - suspended from 12 am - 8 amXpertleaguesGood practice for those who draft early.
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FYI JAA - There is NO FLEX POSITION!!!!1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 DEFAnalysis:mbuehner - 2 nice backs at the turn, based on what was available. I'd be comfy with those 2 in a 14 team league.Herd - I'm curious to see how it plays out for you.
 
FYI JAA - There is NO FLEX POSITION!!!!1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 DEFAnalysis:mbuehner - 2 nice backs at the turn, based on what was available. I'd be comfy with those 2 in a 14 team league.Herd - I'm curious to see how it plays out for you.
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When I read it the first time, before the draft began, it said it was a FLEX league.
Type of Mocks Norm: 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DT Flex: 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DT IDP: 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB
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When I read it the first time, before the draft began, it said it was a FLEX league.
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Now I see
League Details: Mock type, Normal: 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 TM League Commissioner: footballman_696969 Draft time limit: 6 hours Time Suspended: 12 AM - 8 AM
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Thanks for the clarification
 
I don't like the Stephen Jackson pick. If he goes to Dallas or New England or someone like that, fine... But if he goes to a team that already has a feature back which is often the case, this pick skews the mock .... I guess thats the problem with doing Mocks this time of year .... But hey; its better than Withdrawal.. lol

 
I think thats a touch early for Staley but I wouldnt argue against it. Hearst has Skelator to deal with after all. I wouldnt want anything to do with either of those two before the draft however.

 
I think thats a touch early for Staley but I wouldnt argue against it. Hearst has Skelator to deal with after all. I wouldnt want anything to do with either of those two before the draft however.
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YEAH Staley over Hearst. Hearst is 33 - way past the RB break point of 30Staley is only 29Heart was signed as vet insurance by the BroncosStaley was signed as the probable new Steeler starterNobody left at RB come without some risk. You could throw out a few other names as viable RB2 pick at 2.05, but HEARST was not even a consideration here for me.
 
Don't like the Jackson pick? Who else would I have taken? We're not sure Dillon will have a starting gig and he regularly underwelms. We're not sure that Westbrook can become a RB1. Duce Staley or Garrison Hearst as a RB1? Come on...Admittedly, Jackson is a rookie and he's not even on a team yet. But the only "wager" I've made here is that he finishes in the Top-16 of RBs. Considering the absolute "hell has frozen over" latest he'll be drafted is by the Lions at the top of the second round, its safe to say that SOMEBODY is going to be giving him first round dollars next year and he's going to be on the field. Now, add in that some of the teams pining for RBs include Detroit (passes to catch!), New England (great system needs a tough runner), Dallas (run run run) and Denver (Great RB land) and the only risk I see in this pick is if he suffers an unavoidable injury or gets selected by a team with a top-5 RB already. One last thing, and you can call it specualtion, but I'm buying it: I am certain that Corey Dillon, Brian Westbrook, Hearst, etc. are good players and can offer good numbers, but they aren't going to be Top-5 runners this year. Can you be certain that Stephen Jackson WON'T produce like LT2 or A-Train did as rookies when they were given a load to carry?HERD

 
Goat, if Jackson goes to a team we as FF players want him to, the pick is great. But lets just use last year as an example... Would you have taken Willis Mcgahee or Larry Johnson so early? Mcgahee is a bad example with the injury, but you get my point ... Anyways, you took him at his upside draft position.. If New England or Dallas draft him, this is where he's gonna go in a lot of drafts - at the highest. But if he gets drafted by a team that already has a good back, he is gonna go a lot lower...

 
Update:2.6 Westbrook2.7 Holt2.8 Henry2.9 DillonSome strong RB pairings coming out.Henry-Lewis and Westbrook-Williams could be monsters.

 
Goat, if Jackson goes to a team we as FF players want him to, the pick is great. But lets just use last year as an example... Would you have taken Willis Mcgahee or Larry Johnson so early? Mcgahee is a bad example with the injury, but you get my point ...
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You're absolutely, right. But by missing out on the top-5 or 6 RBs makes me feel like I need a "swing for the fences" player. I'm not going to win a FF league with any of the guys that were selected right after me as my RB1. Jackson could very easily be a viable RB1, especially since his predraft rankings slot him behind a guy like LT2, but ahead of guys like William Green and TJ Duckett.I am absolutely drafting him hoping he goes to a team that will utilize his talents right away. Of the teams that may be leaning RB in the first round, I think Dallas, is a great situation, Detroit is pretty good, and New England could be nice. So, thats what its come down to...HERD
 
Some strong RB pairings coming out.Henry-Lewis and Westbrook-Williams could be monsters.
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Henry might share carries, Lewis might go to jail, Westbrook might share carries too, Ricky's solid but he might be slowing down with all the carries. The RBs this year all have some question marks after 8 picks or so.
 
I think Henry's role will still be significant, but the Bills are most certainly going to get a look at McGahee to see if he can carry the load for them so they can decide if Henry needs to be resigned. HERD

 
I agree with Herds rational, but one thing would make me never make this move.Herd is counting on 2 major issues both breaking his way:That Jackson will get drafted by a team that will start him.That Jackson will be a good NFL back.One of the other, i might roll the dice, but both in awfully dangerous to risk your season on. We _know_ Westbrook can play in the NFL. We _know_ Henry can. We dont know that about Jackson yet. Now if Westbrook doesnt stud out, chances are he still produces about what he did last year, not too shabby. You can still grab a highrisk high reward guy in the next round, possibly Jackson anyway, or Kevin Jones or Perry, or somebody like Foster. Then at least you have some grounding and every single detail doesnt have to break perfectly. That being said, I understand your logic, just too risky for my blood personally.

 
The question is; if this were a money league drafting at this point, would heard have made that pick? After the draft, if he's on New England or Dallas; sure ... But at this point in time? Iffy.

 
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I personally think Henry is an absolute steal at this point in the draft. He has shown so much over the past 2 years, and he's still young and very productive. Willis is waiting in the wings, but he is still coming off an very major knee injury. We're not talking a sprained ankle. I really don't see Willis getting more than 5 carries and a 1 or 2 catches per game. Now, those touches are something, but at this point in the draft, all the guys are giving up something.I see Henry putting up Stephen Davis type numbers from last season. Less yardage, but more TD's for roughly the same FF points. McGahee will get a little here and there, and I think we have to expect that, but not enough to diminish his Henry's value too much.I would have taken Henry over:FaulkD. DavisRudiStaleyJust my thoughts.

 
The question is; if this were a money league drafting at this point, would heard have made that pick? I doubt it.
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I don't have any redraft rankings done at this point, but if Jackson ends up on Dallas, Detroit, or New England, I will likely have him pretty close to RB15 on my chart, if not higher depending on how his camp goes.HERD
 
I don't have any redraft rankings done at this point, but if Jackson ends up on Dallas, Detroit, or New England, I will likely have him pretty close to RB15 on my chart, if not higher depending on how his camp goes.HERD
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No argument here.... On the right team; he's a stud. But you listed 3 out of 32 teams in the NFL.... The draft never goes the way we think it will, or want it to.
 
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Lol.2.10 Manning2.11 CulpepperNot laughing at the picks, laughing at BS's dilemna.

 
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I took Michael Bennett.... I think he comes back this year at full strength, and SOD doesn't scare me at all... He had his chances last year and looked OK, but he isn't the breakaway threat that Bennett is every time he touches the ball.If SOD was so good, he would have easily supplanted Moe Williams last year.

 
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thew, sweated that one out, didn't think it was possible for me to get both Suggs and Chad Johnson with the two picks, but Im more than satisfied with what I got. William Green's a mess, and I think Suggs was productive in college, I always thought of him as a stud back when given the chance because of his nose for the endzone in college, and his big game past season proves he can do it on this level too. Chad Johnson's got a big mouth, prediciting 1800 yards, he gets anywhere close to that, this was a steal. I was also going to take Shipp if Suggs got taken. If both backs got taken, goin Chad Johnson/Terrell Owens back to back was my next option.

 
Henry is certainly a steal at this point... Taking Staley over him was madness...
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Henry was a strong consideration......Henry and Staley are both in similar situations. Both are penciled in as the starters and both have the risk of loosing play time to another (McGahee or Bettis).I like the PIT team as a whole better, plus the hommer in me tips the scales to Staley.
 
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