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American Sniper - Clint Eastwood's latest movie (1 Viewer)

Watching this now. This whole enemy sniper storyline is ####in stupid and cheesy.
Can you unpack this? I haven't seen the movie but know the story, trying to understand what you mean.
They basically made a side story out of a rivalry/showdown with a legendary Iraqi sniper.
Hollywood does that. The insurgents had some good snipers, but nothing like Vietnam.

They were a joke in Afghanistan, couldn't hit ####. Barely a distraction. The Taliban are really bad at math (lots of calculus involved in being an effective sniper).

 
Watching this now. This whole enemy sniper storyline is ####in stupid and cheesy.
Can you unpack this? I haven't seen the movie but know the story, trying to understand what you mean.
They basically made a side story out of a rivalry/showdown with a legendary Iraqi sniper.
The ending was a worse in terms of cheese IMO. They jammed in all this cheap, contrived drama into a final climatic scene. Didn't need to do that.

 
Watching this now. This whole enemy sniper storyline is ####in stupid and cheesy.
Can you unpack this? I haven't seen the movie but know the story, trying to understand what you mean.
They basically made a side story out of a rivalry/showdown with a legendary Iraqi sniper.
The ending was a worse in terms of cheese IMO. They jammed in all this cheap, contrived drama into a final climatic scene. Didn't need to do that.
It actually happened, not contrived

 
Watching this now. This whole enemy sniper storyline is ####in stupid and cheesy.
Can you unpack this? I haven't seen the movie but know the story, trying to understand what you mean.
They basically made a side story out of a rivalry/showdown with a legendary Iraqi sniper.
The ending was a worse in terms of cheese IMO. They jammed in all this cheap, contrived drama into a final climatic scene. Didn't need to do that.
It actually happened, not contrived
I think he meant the final fight scene.

 
Watching this now. This whole enemy sniper storyline is ####in stupid and cheesy.
Can you unpack this? I haven't seen the movie but know the story, trying to understand what you mean.
They basically made a side story out of a rivalry/showdown with a legendary Iraqi sniper.
Hollywood does that. The insurgents had some good snipers, but nothing like Vietnam.They were a joke in Afghanistan, couldn't hit ####. Barely a distraction. The Taliban are really bad at math (lots of calculus involved in being an effective sniper).
yeah I dont mind Hollywood making movies more exciting than real life. It is a movie after all. But the whole sniper thing seemed so cheap and cheesy and out of place in this movie and Id have a hard time calling this a Best Picture with those scenes in the movie. think the movie Assassins only Bradley Cooper was Sly Stallone and some Iraqi guy (Mustafa) was Antonio Banderas.
 
Watching this now. This whole enemy sniper storyline is ####in stupid and cheesy.
Can you unpack this? I haven't seen the movie but know the story, trying to understand what you mean.
They basically made a side story out of a rivalry/showdown with a legendary Iraqi sniper.
The ending was a worse in terms of cheese IMO. They jammed in all this cheap, contrived drama into a final climatic scene. Didn't need to do that.
It actually happened, not contrived
I think he meant the final fight scene.
Yes the ending of the movie. Going off my memory from reading the book all those things that happened in the final scene of movie were either exaggerated or moved around the timeline to build up to a hollywood dramatic scene. The guy with the drill scene, again lazy writing used to create extra emotion and drama.

The story had plenty of that without need to embellish.

 
Just got around to reading this thread... I want to thank cstu for debunking the myth that Vietnam veterans weren't spat on. Oh and the Chris Kyle comparison to a Nazi soldier in WWII was insightful as well.

The irony of this is that Chris Kyle and Vietnam veterans fought and died for his right to spew such nonsense.

 
Just got around to reading this thread... I want to thank cstu for debunking the myth that Vietnam veterans weren't spat on. Oh and the Chris Kyle comparison to a Nazi soldier in WWII was insightful as well.

The irony of this is that Chris Kyle and Vietnam veterans fought and died for his right to spew such nonsense.
Thank God you're here.

 
The irony of this is that Chris Kyle and Vietnam veterans fought and died for his right to spew such nonsense.
I'm pretty positive Vietnam vets fighting in that war didn't protect our freedom of speech in doing so.
Every single vet that fought in your lifetime did so so you wouldn't have to by being drafted/conscripted.
I'm very aware of that. That has nothing to do with either his or my statement.
 
The irony of this is that Chris Kyle and Vietnam veterans fought and died for his right to spew such nonsense.
I'm pretty positive Vietnam vets fighting in that war didn't protect our freedom of speech in doing so.
I'm pretty positive you're wrong. The primary objective was to stop the spread of Soviet style Communism which was very much anti- freedom of speech. The Domino theory proved later on to be a load of crap, but the intention of that war when it was fought was very much to protect freedom throughout the world, with the thought being that if the balance of power shifted too heavily towards the Soviets eventually it would prove to be a direct threat to our shores. It's easy to criticize that paranoid thinking in 2015, but I can assure you at the time the threat was very real. The spread of Communism into Cuba came very close to causing World War III.
 
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The irony of this is that Chris Kyle and Vietnam veterans fought and died for his right to spew such nonsense.
I'm pretty positive Vietnam vets fighting in that war didn't protect our freedom of speech in doing so.
I'm pretty positive you're wrong. The primary objective was to stop the spread of Soviet style Communism which was very much anti- freedom of speech. The Domino theory proved later on to be a load of crap, but the intention of that war when it was fought was very much to protect freedom throughout the world, with the thought being that if the balance of power shifted too heavily towards the Soviets eventually it would prove to be a direct threat to our shores. It's easy to criticize that paranoid thinking in 2015, but I can assure you at the time the threat was very real. The spread of Communism into Cuba came very close to causing World War III.
Sorry... I think you are wrong here... Kennedy sent special forces into Vietnam because he was trying to steal their oil and they had put a hit out on his dad making him angry.... :tinfoilhat:

 
The irony of this is that Chris Kyle and Vietnam veterans fought and died for his right to spew such nonsense.
I'm pretty positive Vietnam vets fighting in that war didn't protect our freedom of speech in doing so.
I'm pretty positive you're wrong. The primary objective was to stop the spread of Soviet style Communism which was very much anti- freedom of speech. The Domino theory proved later on to be a load of crap, but the intention of that war when it was fought was very much to protect freedom throughout the world, with the thought being that if the balance of power shifted too heavily towards the Soviets eventually it would prove to be a direct threat to our shores. It's easy to criticize that paranoid thinking in 2015, but I can assure you at the time the threat was very real. The spread of Communism into Cuba came very close to causing World War III.
oy vey^

 
The irony of this is that Chris Kyle and Vietnam veterans fought and died for his right to spew such nonsense.
I'm pretty positive Vietnam vets fighting in that war didn't protect our freedom of speech in doing so.
I'm pretty positive you're wrong. The primary objective was to stop the spread of Soviet style Communism which was very much anti- freedom of speech. The Domino theory proved later on to be a load of crap, but the intention of that war when it was fought was very much to protect freedom throughout the world, with the thought being that if the balance of power shifted too heavily towards the Soviets eventually it would prove to be a direct threat to our shores. It's easy to criticize that paranoid thinking in 2015, but I can assure you at the time the threat was very real. The spread of Communism into Cuba came very close to causing World War III.
oy vey^
It's true, regardless of what you think of the wars themselves our soldiers have been (among other things, like their families and their lives and survival) fighting for us, the US and our way of life, which is inherently about freedom, including the freedom of speech. They sacrifice everything.

 
The irony of this is that Chris Kyle and Vietnam veterans fought and died for his right to spew such nonsense.
I'm pretty positive Vietnam vets fighting in that war didn't protect our freedom of speech in doing so.
I'm pretty positive you're wrong. The primary objective was to stop the spread of Soviet style Communism which was very much anti- freedom of speech. The Domino theory proved later on to be a load of crap, but the intention of that war when it was fought was very much to protect freedom throughout the world, with the thought being that if the balance of power shifted too heavily towards the Soviets eventually it would prove to be a direct threat to our shores. It's easy to criticize that paranoid thinking in 2015, but I can assure you at the time the threat was very real. The spread of Communism into Cuba came very close to causing World War III.
oy vey^
It's true, regardless of what you think of the wars themselves our soldiers have been (among other things, like their families and their lives and survival) fighting for us, the US and our way of life, which is inherently about freedom, including the freedom of speech. They sacrifice everything.
You think our soldiers were fighting for our freedoms and way of life in Iraq?

And the fact that they sacrifice everything has no bearing on whether they are fighting for our freedoms. Those are two separate things and shouldnt be connected in a effort to blur lines.

 
Wtf is going on in here? Are we really at the point where we can't all at least agree to honor vets?

 
The irony of this is that Chris Kyle and Vietnam veterans fought and died for his right to spew such nonsense.
I'm pretty positive Vietnam vets fighting in that war didn't protect our freedom of speech in doing so.
I'm pretty positive you're wrong. The primary objective was to stop the spread of Soviet style Communism which was very much anti- freedom of speech. The Domino theory proved later on to be a load of crap, but the intention of that war when it was fought was very much to protect freedom throughout the world, with the thought being that if the balance of power shifted too heavily towards the Soviets eventually it would prove to be a direct threat to our shores. It's easy to criticize that paranoid thinking in 2015, but I can assure you at the time the threat was very real. The spread of Communism into Cuba came very close to causing World War III.
oy vey^
It's true, regardless of what you think of the wars themselves our soldiers have been (among other things, like their families and their lives and survival) fighting for us, the US and our way of life, which is inherently about freedom, including the freedom of speech. They sacrifice everything.
You think our soldiers were fighting for our freedoms and way of life in Iraq?

And the fact that they sacrifice everything has no bearing on whether they are fighting for our freedoms. Those are two separate things and shouldnt be connected in a effort to blur lines.
And I think we have to separate these guys from the policies that put them there. I don't think the guys that fought in Iraq or Vietnam or Afghanistan were any different from the guys who fought in WW2 or WW1 or the Civil War or any of the other myriad wars our guys have sadly been put into. We may change from generation to generation but basically our soldiers are good people. The whole thing's tragic, it always is.

 
Wtf is going on in here? Are we really at the point where we can't all at least agree to honor vets?
I think there are some who really view the U.S. as similar to Nazis. Kind of disturbing but very telling at the same time.
Very disturbing. It's shocking how radicalized the Left has become the last few years. 1/20/17 can't come soon enough.
 
While it's good to see the brain trust is on the case, you should know that just saying whatever you want in your comical efforts to be super deluxe troopsier than thou, doesn't make those things true. And if somebody acknowledges that, it has nothing remotely to do with that person's respect for those who serve in the military.
 
Wtf is going on in here? Are we really at the point where we can't all at least agree to honor vets?
I think there are some who really view the U.S. as similar to Nazis. Kind of disturbing but very telling at the same time.
Very disturbing. It's shocking how radicalized the Left has become the last few years. 1/20/17 can't come soon enough.
What does my sister turning 40 have to do with radicalism? :oldunsure:

 
Oh their radicalized alright. I mean, they're going so far as to not agree with people who are wrong on the internet. It's Mario at Berkeley all over again.

 
Oh their radicalized alright. I mean, they're going so far as to not agree with people who are wrong on the internet. It's Mario at Berkeley all over again.
You seem to be of the belief that American soldiers have not been equated to Nazis on this thread. Perhaps you should go back a couple of pages.

 
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While it's good to see the brain trust is on the case, you should know that just saying whatever you want in your comical efforts to be super deluxe troopsier than thou, doesn't make those things true. And if somebody acknowledges that, it has nothing remotely to do with that person's respect for those who serve in the military.
Not sure who you are talking to, but It would help if you spoke in normal language. I have no idea what you are saying.
 
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While it's good to see the brain trust is on the case, you should know that just saying whatever you want in your comical efforts to be super deluxe troopsier than thou, doesn't make those things true. And if somebody acknowledges that, it has nothing remotely to do with that person's respect for those who serve in the military.
Not sure who you are talking to, but It would help if you spoke in normal language. I have no idea what you are saying.
I know.

 

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