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Andre Ellington - RB - Clemson. (5 Viewers)
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SameSongNDance
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Definitely but it all just seems like a losing long-term proposition for ARI. I guess they don't have a real choice in the matter, but a RB running for 3 yards a clip is going to put you in a lot of ####ty positions. That and giving Ellington near 30 touches a game seems like a recipe for disaster.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Seems to be working for now at least, given that they're tied with Denver for the best record in the NFL while running their offense pretty much through Ellington.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Matchups look horrible the rest of the way, except for Atlanta.
St Louis and Seattle twice each between now and week 16.
I figure in redraft he might be a sell high.
St Louis and Seattle twice each between now and week 16.
I figure in redraft he might be a sell high.
We Tigers
Footballguy
The Rams aren't actually that threatening a run defense. I could see them improving a bit with Chris Long coming back, I guess. I'd be more concerned about Detroit and Kansas City, though in both cases I think Ellington will be pretty useful. His volume and major involvement in the passing game have kept him a safe start all year.
I benched him the past couple weeks for Bradshaw, and I now have Jeremy Hill available as well, but I decided I'm just going to keep rolling him out there alongside Murray for the rest of the season. He had a relatively slow start to the season, but he's become a very reliable RB2.
Banger
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I still don't understand why he isn't used in the passing game a lot more. Get him into space more quickly. He has the hands for it.
Card Trader
Footballguy
And when u consider Floyd has been useless all year and really no TE option of note, I would agree with this. Frankly, im stunned how they're doing enough on offense to win these games...
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Yeah, I guess he does have 32 receptions. Seems like less than that for some reason.
Card Trader
Footballguy
Floyd has 400 yds receiving, he hasn't been totally useless. They spread the ball around well and don't turn it over. That's how they win. Only 2 ints on O and 12 on D
Well, I meant specifically for my team (after Murray). But yeah, I was surprised when I realized just how consistent he'd been. I still don't know if I think of him in the same tier as a Murray, Charles or Foster, mostly because of the TDs, but maybe he gets there by the end of this year.
Fear The Turtle
Footballguy
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
One of the big question marks about Ellington seems to have been answered - will they give him enough opportunities? All of the "worried about workload/injury" coach speak seems to be a non issue now.
He's currently 2nd in the league in rushing attempts at 167 (behind DeMarco Murray's crazy pace of 244).
His YPC is pretty bad at 3.48, but for this season at least he is still putting up points and the Cards are winning. They just don't have any other viable options.
For the future though, I would think they would really like to develop another bruiser type back to share the workload.
He's currently 2nd in the league in rushing attempts at 167 (behind DeMarco Murray's crazy pace of 244).
His YPC is pretty bad at 3.48, but for this season at least he is still putting up points and the Cards are winning. They just don't have any other viable options.
For the future though, I would think they would really like to develop another bruiser type back to share the workload.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
The rotoworld blurb seems to think the Cards will lean on Ellington now that Palmer is out.
Any Cardinal homers know if this will likely be the game plan, or is this just there speculation?
I've got a trade offer on the table where I get Ellington. His playoff schedule looks a little rough with KC, STL, Seattle, but honestly he's such an upgrade over my beat up running back corps that I'm seriously considering it.
20 touches a game would be nice, but there's little coackspeak in that rotoworld blurb.
Any Cardinal homers know if this will likely be the game plan, or is this just there speculation?
I've got a trade offer on the table where I get Ellington. His playoff schedule looks a little rough with KC, STL, Seattle, but honestly he's such an upgrade over my beat up running back corps that I'm seriously considering it.
20 touches a game would be nice, but there's little coackspeak in that rotoworld blurb.
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Card Trader
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Tanner9919
Footballguy
same here, Ive been offered Sammy Watkins and Ellington for Julius Thomas...I already have Jimmy Graham..Ellington is nice but that schedule is rough..its a tough call on making the deal..
blake
Footballguy
Banger
Footballguy
Am giving serious thought to benching him this week for Crowell or (more likely) Hill. I almost started the latter last week, and it would have been the right decision. I just feel like even though both of those guys have massive question marks around their usage, I'm having a hard time trusting Ellington, especially given the matchup. Yes, Seattle at home is not what they've been the past couple years, especially against the run, but it's not like Andre's been tearing it up recently either.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Tough call with all the "motivation" talk, but I think I'm sitting Ellington for the first time this year. Going with Hill.
buymeagoat
Footballguy
I think he will bounce back next year. He had a great stretch this year but is obviously slowing down. That said, anyone starting him against Atlanta hoping that defense throws him a bone for a big day?
johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
I am hoping he will rebound with the schedule softening up a bit here.
zamboni
Footballguy
I love Ellington but 1 thing I will say from watching a lot of him this year. He goes down on contact wayyyyy to easily. You get a hand on his shoelaces, he's seeming falling down. He's not 'that' small where he should be getting manhandled so easily. In space he's probably top-5 in the league. But if this year is proving anything, he's definitely more Spiller (when healthy) then he is a Charles. Maybe needs to add some muscle to that frame of his but he just cant fight off any tacklers
He's not good enough (fantasy-wise) that I would start him against a top rated d-line. He's been held in check, and predictably so. Looking at his playoff stretch - KC, StL, Sea - there is no way I am starting him unless in an emergency.
Well PPR formats, he's still a must start. As bad as yesterday was, he put up 11.3 in PPR which is basically his floor. But yes in NON-ppr leagues, he's become a flex play and probably a sit vs a good D. Having said that, its tough sitting a guy who can rip off an 80 yd td any time he touches the ball.
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IheartGuinness
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Absolutely. Probably will continue to do so, barring injury. But then again, I only play in PPR leagues, so even a performance like yesterday still netted me double-digit points. In standard leagues I probably wouldn't be too fond of the guy.
IheartGuinness
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He's my RB2 in a 16-team standard league. Debated between him and Hill the past three weeks. Finally went to Hill this past week, which paid off. This week, I'm leaning toward going back to Ellington. Atlanta's defense is terrible, especially when they're playing outside the NFC South. I think he gets off the schneid.
But then the schedule gets tougher and I'm probably sitting him for Hill or Crowell. Scratch that. Just looked at the playoff match-ups and, assuming he holds the job, I'm definitely starting Crowell over Ellington Weeks 14-16.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
The Bush signing probably further dampens his value although it's not like he was doing much on the ground anyway. Of all RBs with relevant touches this year, only Tate (3.1YPC), A. Williams (3) and Martin (2.8) have been worse on the ground than Ellington (3.3) who is currently tied with Matt Asiata. Also, Ellington's season long of 22 yards is less than that of sloths like SJax (27) and TRich (27).
This. That's been the most surprising thing about Ellington this year. Last year he felt like Antone Smith. This year he's been more like Michael Turner, but with fewer TDs.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
I know his foot has been a problem all year, but he's not been effective at all. He derives his fantasy value off volume, especially in PPR. I agree with the above and he may lose his starter status by next year.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Non-ppr this guy is on my bench. I'm kinda surprised how high he's ranked this week. I know Atlanta stinks but this guy isn't breaking any long runs. One flukey pass play against Denver is the only big play he's had. And now they sign bush too. He's staying on my bench...
Banger
Footballguy
I don't think so at all. The foot has killed his season. He was electric last year.... He didn't lose it in one year.
zamboni
Footballguy
I agree, but whether it's his foot or just him not being capable of carrying the load, it seems like he's lost the opportunity to be the bell cow next year in Arians' eyes.
TheFootballJesus
Footballguy
No way you can rely on this guy in the fantasy playoffs, the schedule is brutal.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
This will probably be the last week I play him this season, especially with the Bush signing.
chickensoup
Footballguy
That's my thinking as well. He's been ok for me this year so far as a WR heavy drafter, but I just can't afford 12 point ceilings in his horrible schedule outside of this week. He's going to be an emergency start only I think
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Ellington has only been serviceable because he's getting a lot of touches. I don't care if Bush stinks, if he takes away touches then Ellington's value goes down.at people worried about Michael freaking Bush
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