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Andrew Luck..... Love fest inside.... (1 Viewer)

As we get closer to fantasy draft season, will really be interesting where Luck's ADP generally shakes out. So much risk, but potentially a goldmine for those willing to take the risk.

I will not be one of those people.

 
Stompin' Tom Connors said:
As we get closer to fantasy draft season, will really be interesting where Luck's ADP generally shakes out. So much risk, but potentially a goldmine for those willing to take the risk.

I will not be one of those people.
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Whether he can throw or not, I think he’ll end up on the ground in his backfield. It’s a shame they have a talent like that and have done next to nothing to address the line. Maybe they can shore it up in the draft, and maybe at 6 Nelson is the guy to do that. But I have a feeling if Saquon is there irsay will be banging the table for a ticket seller Big name guy. The sexy pick vs the build the trenches pick. 

 
This stage of “rehab” feels like a last ditch effort to see if he can ever compete again. I have my doubts that we see him play. I feel like at this point if he were confident he would be saying “I will be on the field this season” or “I am excited to get back onto the football field and compete again”....or something other than “we are following the program and I am improving....etc.” Sad way to end a promising career if that is the case. Indy wasted a gift they received when transitioning from Manning.

 
(Rotoworld) Colts GM Chris Ballard confirmed Andrew Luck (shoulder) is still not throwing a football. Analysis: However, Ballard said a lot of the exercises Luck has been doing are "conducive to the same thing." Ballard added that Indy's decision to trade down from the No. 3 pick shows the team is confident in Luck's long-term health. The former No. 1 pick missed all of last year while recovering from shoulder surgery.

 
grateful zed said:
(Rotoworld) Colts GM Chris Ballard confirmed Andrew Luck (shoulder) is still not throwing a football. Analysis: However, Ballard said a lot of the exercises Luck has been doing are "conducive to the same thing." Ballard added that Indy's decision to trade down from the No. 3 pick shows the team is confident in Luck's long-term health. The former No. 1 pick missed all of last year while recovering from shoulder surgery.
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So he can wax the dolphin without pain. That’s good to know.

 
:coffee:

(Rotoworld) Colts have turned down multiple trade offers for QB Jacoby Brissett. Analysis: Colts GM Chris Ballard spoke highly of Brissett, mentioning "hes committed, hes a great teammate, hes got juice" and "he holds people accountable". "I love Jacoby," Ballard said. Brissett has two years left on his contract for a total of $1.6 million, which makes it easy for the Colts to leave him supplanted as Andrew Luck's backup. Ballard additionally mentioned he would have to be "bowled over" with an offer before parting ways with Brissett.

 
Jeez just go to Dr. James Andrews and re-do the surgery already.  The more they double down on this broken screwed up surgery that didn't work the closer they get to ending his career entirely.

 
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Anyone feel at least a little better Colts haven’t selected a QB yet and seem to be shoring up the “trenches”.

On the flip side, the new Coach just won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles, so maybe they don’t have much concern there.

 
I wish they had drafted Guice to run next to Luck but I can definitely live with them focusing on protection. It’s a pleasant change from their normal draft strategy

they do need to address RB though, either in the 4th or sign Anderson. I think Luck has still never had a rusher with 100 yard game in his career

 
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Colts HC Frank Reich said Andrew Luck still isn't throwing the football.

Reich said everything is going to plan and Luck is doing "exceptionally well." It's not a surprise he's coming along slowly — GM Chris Ballard said Luck wouldn't throw until training camp — but it remains startling that Luck hasn't thrown a live pass since Jan. 1, 2017, which was 496 days ago. He turns 29 in September.

Related: Colts

Source: Zak Keefer on Twitter 

May 12 - 11:29 AM
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Colts coach Frank Reich insists the team is "not worried at all" that Andrew Luck (shoulder) has yet to resume throwing.

It has been 507 days since Luck threw a football. "Right now we’re just continuing to stay in the same mode," Reich said of his quarterback's never-ending rehab. "Can’t cut things short. There’s no reason to cut things short. It’s a day-by-day process and evaluation and just staying trusting in that." Luck believes his last rehab failed because he "skipped steps." Luck hopes to be throwing "without restrictions" by the start of training camp. That would require picking up a football in the very near future.

Source: FOX Indianapolis 

May 23 - 10:40 PM
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How in the world can a coach say he's not at all worried about his starting QB still not throwing a football?  Why bother commenting at all.  I'm pulling for Luck and hope is fine for the start of the season.  But the fact that it's nearly June and he still isn't throwing is certainly cause for concern.  How much concern is debatable.  But it's not fine. 

 
At this point when anyone in the organization is asked if Luck is throwing a real NFL football there should just be a standing order to tell the press, "These aren't the droids you're looking for." 

bombjack said:
Anyone feel at least a little better Colts haven’t selected a QB yet and seem to be shoring up the “trenches”.
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With most organizations I'd say yes, but I get the feeling in INDY you just nose dive the franchise straight into the ground and expect the next #1 pick to save your franchise. It's pretty much been their go-to model for success.

 
Kidding aside, is this guy going to play football again?  It's to the point where news that Luck is playing football would be a bigger surprise than the fact that he isn't.

 
BoltBacker said:
At this point when anyone in the organization is asked if Luck is throwing a real NFL football there should just be a standing order to tell the press, "These aren't the droids you're looking for." 

With most organizations I'd say yes, but I get the feeling in INDY you just nose dive the franchise straight into the ground and expect the next #1 pick to save your franchise. It's pretty much been their go-to model for success.
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They had the #3 pick in this draft if they wanted a QB.

This has got to be one of the most bizarre situations I can remember a rising super star QB with so much mystery surrounding his injury status.

 
Chaka said:
Kidding aside, is this guy going to play football again?  It's to the point where news that Luck is playing football would be a bigger surprise than the fact that he isn't.
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I'm at the point of ignoring articles about Andrew Luck.  It's all BS until he's on the field throwing a real football (or, worst case, listed out for a game).  There's just too must conjecture and after last year's non-sense I'll ignore it all until he throws for the cameras or is out for a game.

 
The most poorly covered story in the NFL.

The Colts are saying the exact same thing as this time last year, he hasn't thrown a football in over a year, and the coverage has been, ''Colts are optimistic, Luck is using doubt as motivation.''

Is there any history of a QB having this long a rehab, and recovering?

 
massraider said:
The most poorly covered story in the NFL.

The Colts are saying the exact same thing as this time last year, he hasn't thrown a football in over a year, and the coverage has been, ''Colts are optimistic, Luck is using doubt as motivation.''

Is there any history of a QB having this long a rehab, and recovering?
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nope...which makes them moving out of the top3 when they could of had a franchise QB again even weirder...

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
nope...which makes them moving out of the top3 when they could of had a franchise QB again even weirder...
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Truly an underrated bizarre story. It is possible they were not enamored with any of the rookie QBs and were fine with building at other positions. Maybe the comfort level with Brissett is high enough. 

 
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Looking at a study on Elite pitchers who underwent shoulder surgery (Jul/Aug 2013 edition of Sports Health by Harris et al.):

BASIS: 287 elite male pitchers who underwent shoulder surgery with 99% on the dominant throwing shoulder.  Most pitchers (276) were professional with a mean career length of 6.58 years.  Post-operative clinical follow-up within these studies was 3.62 years)

RESULTS:
• Overall rate of return to sport (RTS = "return to sport (RTS) at the same level prior to injury") was 68% 
• 22% of MLB pitchers never pitched again in MLB
• Performance declined for the 3 seasons prior to surgery and then gradually increased for 3 seasons afterward, but generally did not reach pre-injury levels.

TLDR: Not everyone comes back to somewhat similar performance levels, very few return to true pre-injury levels, and over 1/4 never pitch again. 

I'm pretty confident Luck will play again.... but anyone assuming it's a given that Luck will pick up where he left off, let alone ever throw as well as he did before the injury, are making a bold assumption, IMO. 
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 IND - QB Andrew Luck may not throw for a while

Source: The Indianapolis Star - Stephen Holder

Indianapolis Colts QB Andrew Luck (shoulder) did not throw during organized team activities Wednesday, May 23, and head coach Frank Reich said he is not sure if Luck will throw before the end of June minicamp but is confident that Luck will ramp things up in time for training camp.

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Fantasy owners are incredibly nervous about this situation and for good reason. The nerves can be calmed down if/when Luck starts throwing and shows no setbacks. He's QB14 (10.05) at this time in 12-team PPR leagues.

:popcorn:  

 
Faust said:
Colts GM Chris Ballard insisted Andrew Luck (shoulder) will be activated from active/PUP before Week 1.

Ballard said this last week when Luck was placed on PUP as camp opened, but Colts beat writers Tuesday evening tweeted that Ballard's statement still "stands." CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora caused a stir earlier in the day by saying there are "rumblings" Luck may start the year on PUP. It's hard to see. Even if Luck were not to be ready for the season opener, the Colts would surely avoid placing him on PUP to give him every opportunity to be ready in the following weeks. The most likely scenario is Luck barely plays this preseason -- if at all -- and starts Week 1.

Source: George Bremer on Twitter
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Bumping for when Colts staff inevitably “insists” Luck will be ready for week 1...

 
I got to thinking I could get him cheap with all the doom and gloom on this thread. No bites or counter offers. Luck's still ranked 63 on fantasypros, ahead of Cam Newton.

There's probably not many owners posting on this thread right now, but hypothetically what would you take for Luck right now?

 
Rule 1 here needs to be to never believe anything the Colts say about the situation.  They have proven twice now that they will flat out lie about a QB's status (Manning in 2011 and Luck in 2017) for the entire preseason and most of the season if necessary

 
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 IND - QB Andrew Luck may not throw for a while

...head coach Frank Reich said he is not sure if Luck will throw before the end of June minicamp but is confident that Luck will ramp things up in time for training camp.

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Pretty easy to ramp up from zero.

Can't wait for the BREAKING NEWS:::Andrew Luck ramping up!  The Indianapolis QB was seen eating a taco...USING HIS THROWING SHOULDER!!!

 
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Not sure why they'd keep paying him all that money if he was done. Then again, I'm not an NFL coach.
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He has 40 million in dead cap if he's released.  

It's also likely that they are in denial about his situation, and also, it's Andrew Luck.  You don't get rid of him until you know for SURE he's done.  

 
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