voiceofunreason
Footballguy
I think there's almost no chance he's done. Now, will he come back and look like Dalton? That's the real question at this point to me.
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Andrew Luck..... Love fest inside.... (6 Viewers)
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This seems pretty unique in my 30 odd years of watching football. Maybe it's not that unique of an injury and the way the colts have handled it is unique.
Either way, I'm a Luck owner, and I'm not optimistic. If he isn't throwing by August I'm probably going to cut him. I just can't carry him much longer and it's not like he is 25.
Either way, I'm a Luck owner, and I'm not optimistic. If he isn't throwing by August I'm probably going to cut him. I just can't carry him much longer and it's not like he is 25.
tkrull
Footballguy
I'm an owner. I'm honestly not that worried. He plays or he doesn't, I have a backup plan (but it's not like I have a Top12 guy sitting on my bench).
If I could get a Top15ish guy in return without giving up the store, I'd consider it.
What have you been offering?
cloppbeast
Footballguy
You mean top 15 qb? This has been about my offers for him.
Definitely not not Michael Thomas top 15.
mrip541
Footballguy
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Andrew Luck - QB - Colts
Andrew Luck (shoulder) resumed throwing in Tuesday's minicamp session.
Luck, who hasn't played in a game in 527 days, had not thrown a football since last October. Observed by many members of the media, Luck did not appear to be throwing particularly difficult or high-velocity passes, but it's a crucial step in the right direction ahead of next month's start of training camp. It's important to remember that is all this is, a step. Luck still has a long ways to go before being declared ready for Week 1.
Source: Colts on Twitter
Jun 12 - 1:34 PM
https://twitter.com/Colts/status/1006589488737472512
it has begun
Andrew Luck (shoulder) resumed throwing in Tuesday's minicamp session.
Luck, who hasn't played in a game in 527 days, had not thrown a football since last October. Observed by many members of the media, Luck did not appear to be throwing particularly difficult or high-velocity passes, but it's a crucial step in the right direction ahead of next month's start of training camp. It's important to remember that is all this is, a step. Luck still has a long ways to go before being declared ready for Week 1.
Source: Colts on Twitter
Jun 12 - 1:34 PM
https://twitter.com/Colts/status/1006589488737472512
it has begun
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
He's still not throwing a regulation sized ball.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Has to be good news.
Dr. Irsay said he he would have no restrictions for training camp. Irsay needs to never speak or appear publicly again.
Dr. Irsay said he he would have no restrictions for training camp. Irsay needs to never speak or appear publicly again.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Andrew Luck (shoulder) was throwing a high school ball in Tuesday's minicamp session.
Luck also said afterward he has thrown "The Duke," which is what he calls a real NFL football. He's apparently been throwing for two weeks. The size difference between an NFL and high school ball is minimal — it's mostly about weight — but it's still not quite what we needed to hear. Even with the high school ball, Luck was not uncorking screamers. Despite all that, owner Jim Irsay pledged afterward that Luck would have no "limitations" for training camp. Right now, that sounds more like a hope than a guarantee. Luck is making progress but has a long way to go.
Luck also said afterward he has thrown "The Duke," which is what he calls a real NFL football. He's apparently been throwing for two weeks. The size difference between an NFL and high school ball is minimal — it's mostly about weight — but it's still not quite what we needed to hear. Even with the high school ball, Luck was not uncorking screamers. Despite all that, owner Jim Irsay pledged afterward that Luck would have no "limitations" for training camp. Right now, that sounds more like a hope than a guarantee. Luck is making progress but has a long way to go.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
This is baseball oriented but part of the treatment Luck went through. Cool video/story if you have 13 minutes:
https://youtu.be/fEQJAgIxX2A
https://youtu.be/fEQJAgIxX2A
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Tanner9919
Footballguy
yeah I think you're hitting on something..Brissett is the guy in Indy. It really is time to write off A. Luck as an NFL player.the signs are there.how much more do we (not) need to see? how many more times do we have to hear 'he 'should be ready' he 'will throw in the future' 'he's not throwing now' ..
put a fork in him career over..there's a reason he ran to the office to sign the contract extension so blasted quickly..he KNEW he was injured at the time he signed! he had to have known..otherwise, why not negotiate?
on another note, Brissett was one of a handful of the most accurate passers in the NFL last season,according to PFF..so that's likely the reason that they didnt get a QB in the draft.
Dismattle
Footballguy
Not so sure it's the least misleading Believe they've wanted him to play in the past What's the Doc's telling LuckI has some doubts, but now I'm convinced Luck is fine. Irsay wouldn't mislead us.
grateful zed
Footballguy
does anyone still own a nerf football.
they have a half life for sure.
they have a half life for sure.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
cloppbeast
Footballguy
read he's been throwing footballs for 2 weeks now.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
grateful zed
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
any recent trades involving him?
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
He's my "swing for the fence" pick in a super flex league. Can't ever discount this guys toughness and how much he loves the game.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He's certainly become a potentially tremendous value pick since he's there pretty late in most mocks - of course if he looks good during the preseason his ADP will move up a bit.
squistion
Footballguy
Evan SilvaVerified account @evansilva 10m10 minutes ago
#Colts are "emphasizing a quicker, shorter passing game" under new HC Frank Reich. If properly executed, should lift some burden from offensive line & reduce hits on Andrew Luck.
https://amp.indystar.com/amp/842718002?__twitter_impression=true …
#Colts are "emphasizing a quicker, shorter passing game" under new HC Frank Reich. If properly executed, should lift some burden from offensive line & reduce hits on Andrew Luck.
https://amp.indystar.com/amp/842718002?__twitter_impression=true …
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Insoxicated
Proof will be in the pudding... let’s see how he looks in preseason. IMO I’ll likely still not draft him as I expect some fanboy to take him as a top 5 QB if he looks good in preseason.
While there is a slim chance he finishes there, I think it’s more likely he sees complications at some point this season or is even possibly forced to shut down at some point. He’s gone from not throwing at all for over a year, to suddenly right back into gameplay.
QB position is far too deep this year to risk your season on Luck’s shoulder. Especially considering the hot garbage that is the rest of the Colts squad.
While there is a slim chance he finishes there, I think it’s more likely he sees complications at some point this season or is even possibly forced to shut down at some point. He’s gone from not throwing at all for over a year, to suddenly right back into gameplay.
QB position is far too deep this year to risk your season on Luck’s shoulder. Especially considering the hot garbage that is the rest of the Colts squad.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
I think you will see a much improved Colts team in 2018. The OL is better and the defense is better. There are question marks at CB and WR (imo) however. "Hot garbage" isn't the term I would use to describe the 2018 Colts. As for Luck, it sounds like you've made up your mind. Perhaps you traded him recently and want to believe he will be shut down at some point this season. I wouldn't bet the house on it.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I posted this is another Colts thread, but Indy was a much much better team last year than most realize. They were winning 9 games going into the 4th quarter last season. I am way in on Luck right now. I am worried once he plays in preseason he won't be such a deal right now. Get him in best ball while you can I suppose.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Well, I mean, 2 months back nobody even knew whether he'd ever throw a football again let alone participate in camp. Now you have to see it in the pre-season to believe it.
No matter what ailment you have, any doctor will tell you to rest. Except maybe obesity. I don't understand why you're suspicious he has healed after resting his shoulder. I can't answer as to why it took so long but if he doesn't have any pain when throwing the ball, I'd say his shoulder has healed. And especially since he has maintained his level of play.
Tickle me pink that people still have these worries because I can get him pretty cheap for a little while longer, although not at the same price as May. I'll buy all my shares now before the price goes up to normal levels.
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Insoxicated
Scroll back on the thread... I’ve not owned him anytime in the last several years. I’ve been one of the voices of reason calling the Colts ownership BS about his impending return every step of the way.
Now, finally, we have reason to be optimistic. He’s throwing...a football.. in practice. That’s leaps and bounds ahead of wang we’ve seen in years.
However we still have a QB coming off a mysterious injury that lingered WAY longer than expected, to a part of the shoulder that often carries a risk of never returning to form in throwing sports... on a QB who’s hasn’t thrown a competitive pass in the NFL in a LONG time.
Does that mean he won’t return to form this year? Of course not. Does it mean that rust, lingering issues that limit throwing motion, or risk of setback aren’t VERY real concerns? Of course not.
As of now, Luck is a High risk pick... not one I’m willing to take at his likely price. That may change once we see him at game speed, but for now I’m still not on board.
You can feel free to call me crazy.. folks have been doing it for almost two years in here.... I’m used to it.
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Insoxicated
I love how every team is “projected to be much improved” going into every season.
Vegas has the Colts at 6-10. I’m not sure that’s “much improved” from 4-12, but If you believe they will win 7+ games, Vegas would love to take your action
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Insoxicated
You’re kinda proving my point. Indy had been saying he’s “about to start throwing” every month or two for the last couple years.cloppbeast said:
Now suddenly he goes from “unable to throw” to “maintaining level of play”?
Forgive me if I take practice reps in a Red Jersey at 50% game speed with a grain of salt before claiming he’s maintained his “level of play”
And to be clear, I’ve agree wholeheartedly his price will continue to rise heading into Draft season. He’s unlikely to experience setbacks in a non-game speed red-jersey environment. He will begin to face more significant tests in the next couple weeks. Then we’ll start narrowing down some of the risk factors.
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Elevencents
Footballguy
There’s zero chance I’m drafting him but I am rooting for him.
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Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
Just grabbed luck in a draftmaster league at the 11.06 spot. He is my first QB taken. Some of the better QBs still on the board:
Carr
Goff
Manning
Mariota
Keenum
Winston
Dalton
Mahomes
A. Smith
Carr
Goff
Manning
Mariota
Keenum
Winston
Dalton
Mahomes
A. Smith
