McGarnicle
Footballguy
Oh my bad, I can flex in Luck at 1:00 if he plays. So baked right now.
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Andrew Luck Not Practicing Today (1 Viewer)
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Slim mother####ing pickings - I'm between Bortles (who is my leading candidate), Fitzpatrick, and Hasselback.
Kaep is also available...
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
@wingoz: Andrew Luck not on practice field for the Colts...But Matt Hasselbeck, Alex Tanney and Josh Johnson are.
@AdamSchefter: Read into this what you want as it pertains to Andrew Luck's status, but Colts signed quarterback Josh Johnson.
@Ballou1010xl: Andrew Luck not at practice again today. I was destroyed yesterday on air for saying that there's a chance he may not play. #Jaguars
@AdamSchefter: Read into this what you want as it pertains to Andrew Luck's status, but Colts signed quarterback Josh Johnson.
@Ballou1010xl: Andrew Luck not at practice again today. I was destroyed yesterday on air for saying that there's a chance he may not play. #Jaguars
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
#Bustof2015
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
boilerdave
Footballguy
I drafted Dalton as my backup for Luck.... I think I'm better off starting him over Luck at this point even if Luck was fully healthy.
bb7278
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Pipes
Footballguy
Some of us play in dynasty leagues. Plus first round picks like Jeremy Hill, Dez and Marshawn are either injured or aren't performing well. Silly post.
bb7278
Footballguy
Yeah who would of thought [SIZE=small]Scut Farkus would make Luck look like a backup.[/SIZE]
Thanks for your commentary, I was referring to redraft chief.
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Pipes
Footballguy
My bad it was an incredibly stupid post not silly...I was trying to be nice. No reason to even make a post like that which adds absolutely nothing to this thread other than to take a shot at Luck owners.
bb7278
Footballguy
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Braktastic
Footballguy
Luck better blow some of that beard on himself.
Jimbo Slice
Footballguy
It's because I traded for him on Tuesday
Bills_Fan11
Footballguy
bb7278
Footballguy
Historically it's a bad idea to take a QB in round 1, the value usually isn't worth it compared to what you get later (Brady,Dalton,Palmer), can we start an agreement on that?
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Luck and Rodgers both fell hard to the 3rd in my redraft... If I could do it over, I'd prob grab Rodgers there instead.
I would never in rounds 1 or 2, but by the 3rd to go with what was supposed to be a sure thing and never worry about QB felt like a no brainer.
I would never in rounds 1 or 2, but by the 3rd to go with what was supposed to be a sure thing and never worry about QB felt like a no brainer.
Bills_Fan11
Footballguy
Of course. I resisted the QB craze in 2012 after the statistical anomaly the year before when the top 5 guys crushed everyone else. One sharp guy in my league who plays poker for a living took Stafford like 8th overall that year - I couldn't believe it.
Thought I would zag when everyone else wanted to zig this year so I deviated from the normal 'wait on qb'. Should've gone Gronk/WR or WR/WR I guess. But taking RB for sake of taking RB wouldn't have been any better.
mquinnjr
Footballguy
bb7278
Footballguy
I hear you there my possibly bald brother, I would have grabbed him in round 3 in a second. I think rounds 3-5 is the perfect time to get a QB, all of my previous drafts that I've revisited showed a Brady or someone else that was there and made an awesome pick.
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
And universally he went after Luck
I mean, the writing wasn't on the wall, was it? Did we all just miss the gigantic warning signs chasing those 2014 stats?
bb7278
Footballguy
Ebaker5
Footballguy
Why? I was able to grab Matt Ryan in the 5th and Tom Brady in the 8th (before his ruling). While Rodgers owners were grabbing him I was grabbing players like Gronk, Antonio Brown, Julio....
mquinnjr
Footballguy
My point is it's not a universal falsehood to take an elite rated QB in the first round. It's arguably a much safer pick than a RB. Look at the dumpster fire that is 1st round RB's not named AP, Charles or Bell. I'd still take a Top 3 rated QB I believed in at the right point of the first round. Bad break for Luck owners, meeting/exceeding expectations for Rodgers owners.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Only if you'll agree that it's a bad idea to draft a RB in round 1 because the value usually isn't worth it compared to what you get later (Dion Lewis, Karlos Williams, Carlos Hyde, Chris Johnson, etc.)
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
More than a bad break, I'm debating Blake ####### Bortles versus Colin Kraepernick this week
FML... At least I'm 3-0 so I've got some wiggle room, but ####!!
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
What the hell happened to him?
Makes losing on Dalton by $3 this week sting even more. At least there's 2 okay options on the WW in Tannehill vs NYJ and Stafford @ SEA but of course they have about the worst matchups possible.
Makes losing on Dalton by $3 this week sting even more. At least there's 2 okay options on the WW in Tannehill vs NYJ and Stafford @ SEA but of course they have about the worst matchups possible.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
This one is available to me too and not even a thought.
It is Bortles or Kraep well ahead of an awful looking Stafford going in to Sea.
bb7278
Footballguy
Fair point, I would take Rodgers 1st above any other QB before the draft this year or now, lots of bad starts for the top guys at all positions.
OK Ill give you Dion out of those but you still have Leveon,Charles and AP, name me 3 QB's who would go in round 1 today.
JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo
Footballguy
Does that apply to round 2?
The QB in round 1 is always a crap shoot. I've gotten lucky when I did so...Brady in 2012 and Brees in 2013. But then again as pointed out it seems that now even RBs are not panning out so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't know if there was some psychic intuition involved but I went and grabbed Derek Carr from FA last Saturday because I wasn't too happy with Luck anyway and I had too many good WR so I could drop Torrey Smith. Hopefully Luck will snap out of it after he recovers.
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Exactly. I posted the same thing in another thread or this one. There are tons of late picks and early busts at every position. I drafted Luck in one league (went QB late in my other two) in the 2nd and I looked back and yes there were a couple guys who I'd rather have but for the most part that late 1st through early 3rd was a bonanza of early busts, but like last night (Forsett) the season isn't over yet. I drafted really well for that Luck team so honestly I still like that pick. If he starts playing better, the team is loaded.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Yeah Im not doing Stafford with that matchup and how he's looked this year. Avoiding Kaep as well. I think for me itll be either Tanne or Alex Smith @ CIN
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Based on production? Rodgers, Brady and Dalton. Bottom line is it's easy for you to come in now and say "I told you so" like some kind of hero, but if Luck was at the level he was last year he'd absolutely be worth a first round pick at the point in the draft guys like CJ Anderson, DeMarco Murray or Marshawn Lynch were going.
Was Dez Bryant a bad first round pick.
I took Luck in Round 2, despite usually waiting on a QB, based on my VBD values. Obviously it hasn't worked out but to act like it was wrong is just silly. The first two rounds have been littered with "bad" picks so far - and all those RBs I listed are outperforming guys that went in Rounds 1-3, so if you want to dismiss them to make your point I don't know what to say.
The folks that deal in absolutes are the ones who continue to lose. I'm still fine with my pick of Luck. Hopefully he plays, but I think he'll be putting up plenty of points this year. I'm hoping the shoulder is fine, but I couldn't predict that any more than Dez. I'll live with it.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I am not. That offensive line is terrible, it doesn't matter who is throwing passes behind a line that bad.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Passed on Charles for Antonio Brown in a PPR. Only due to the Big Ben injury am I even the slightest bit regretful.
bb7278
Footballguy
I saw it happen, Luck before Charles in one league.Dr. Octopus said:
Bottom line is you guys can have fun and do whatever you like but I will NEVER take a QB in round 1 no matter what and I've definitely won a lot in 15 years and there's at least a few people that agree with me not that I care.
I was just trying to help because I think it's a fair strategy that's worked for me but to each their own, I think a lot of people checking this thread are Luck owners so I understand your frustration.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It doesn't take a genius to figure out you don't take QBs in the first two rounds in 12-teamers, regardless of scoring format.
bb7278
Footballguy
I sincerely promise you Doc Oc I will PM you my final 2016 cheatsheet no later than 8/26/16 for your use/amusement
Back to NOT derailing ths thread...
How does Grigson still have a job, I would put Luck getting the snot kicked out of him/his injury squarely on Grigson for not fixing the o-line that kinda sucked last year too.
https://www.facebook.com/FireRyanGrigson
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Pipes
Footballguy
Draft dominator disagrees with you in certain scoring formats. Besides like I mentioned before a lot of us affected by Luck's injuries have him in a dynasty league. I'm not sure why this turned into a discussion about not drafting a QB in the 1st round.
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