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It could happen but the problem for the Browns is that it's still quite costly to move to 4. If they take less than "value" it could happen.
The class rates well and there's just that much demand at the position.
I do think it is hard to pin any of Cleveland problems on the backfield. Crowell and Duke Johnson still look like a potent combo if they have solid QB play. Defense could use more talent here though.
Hard to even label Duke as a back. And Crowell is JAG IMO.
Duke still runs well, but he does have more targets than carries on the year. He could do with higher usage as a RB now that Gordon/Coleman are back.
I dont dislike the move, but I feel like the return is unrealistic considering how much its cost in the last few drafts where it occured for a team to move up to the top 2 picks and get their franchise guy
i think this is a fair point. it's hard to judge the relative quality and effectiveness of the Cleveland offense given the atrocious play at the QB position. you just don't know what you have there. honestly, i think they'd be making a mistake drafting yet another QB to learn the pro position, build the offense around and lead the team. they probably would be better served finding a transitional QB that can develop those weapons while a QB is behind him.
What did SF get in the fake trade down to the Bills? Both the Bills original 1st rounder and the first rounder from the Chiefs?
My opinion separates from you here:
i don't disagree this approach to their rebuilding. i haven't seen anything from Kizer that makes me confident that there is a legit starting pro QB buried under all that. they should strongly consider taking a QB in early R1 but certainly they need a stopgap QB to develop the other weapons. they just can't keep the entire offense on a subsistence diet while they roll the dice at QB. they need to know what they have.
I'm really on the fence about Barkley here. He's a talent for sure and I don't think he falls out of the top 5 (Indy or Tampa) but I think Cleveland goes DB at 4. possibly Minkah Fitzpatrick.
That's the strategy that has yielded Brady Quinn, Brandon weeden and Johnny football in the first round.
Agreed. No chance this is enough to move up from 6 to 1. Especially if they're taking a RB at 6. Instead you could probably get 3 first for a team around #10 to move up to 1. Then move up from 10 to 6 if you want Barkley and the cost wouldn't be much.
Sure..they'd love to have Barkley. Castonzo played okay in spots but that o-line has to get better. How about Roquan Smith to shore up the non existent middle of their defense?
The QB merry-go-round will shake it up a lot. Which Vikings QBs will hit the market? Of course Cousins. Do the Jags really move on from Bortles? Does someone feel they can use Tyrod Taylor? Interesting stuff.
better example, thats the same strategy that allows for trading out of the picks for wentz and watson
He's got all of the physical tools and might be the next guy who, once away from South Bend he puts it all together, but he's nowhere near as polished as Nelson and yet routinely gets lumped in with him.
