Just some interesting news, I have someone on the inner circle of the Eagles (on the staff) who actually says it's looking more like KC than Arizona at this point. Andy seems to be tied to Heckert as the GM and KC may be willing to bite on that. Should have some more info today.
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Andy Reid and the Cardinals? (1 Viewer)
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JetMaxx
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Amused to Death
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Chiefs now look more likely than Cardinals to hire Andy Reid
Reid interviewed with the Chiefs on Wednesday and ended up delaying a scheduled meeting with the Cardinals in order to extend his meeting with the Chiefs. And ESPN’s Chris Mortensen said on Mike and Mike in the Morning that the events of the last 24 hours suggest that Reid is getting close to a deal in Kansas City.
“The Chiefs were trying to close a deal with Andy Reid,” Mortensen said. “At this point I’m going to be surprised if Andy Reid is not the Chiefs’ coach. Now, I’ve been surprised before, but there’s a lot of activity there. Some would say, ‘Why Kansas City over Arizona?’ One thing is, in Kansas City, Clark Hunt, the owner of the Chiefs, he’ll let Andy Reid build this thing the way he wants to build it. And if you know Andy, he wants to be able to basically pick the entire organization, set up his personnel. . . . The Chiefs are willing, and Clark Hunt is willing to do that.”
Reid interviewed with the Chiefs on Wednesday and ended up delaying a scheduled meeting with the Cardinals in order to extend his meeting with the Chiefs. And ESPN’s Chris Mortensen said on Mike and Mike in the Morning that the events of the last 24 hours suggest that Reid is getting close to a deal in Kansas City.
“The Chiefs were trying to close a deal with Andy Reid,” Mortensen said. “At this point I’m going to be surprised if Andy Reid is not the Chiefs’ coach. Now, I’ve been surprised before, but there’s a lot of activity there. Some would say, ‘Why Kansas City over Arizona?’ One thing is, in Kansas City, Clark Hunt, the owner of the Chiefs, he’ll let Andy Reid build this thing the way he wants to build it. And if you know Andy, he wants to be able to basically pick the entire organization, set up his personnel. . . . The Chiefs are willing, and Clark Hunt is willing to do that.”
Definitely - Westbrook put up HORRIBLE fantasy numbers as did a healthy Shady
donkshow
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Reid loves to pass. Hopefully he'll use Charles properly.Definitely - Westbrook put up HORRIBLE fantasy numbers as did a healthy Shady
I am aware of Reid's offense. I am also aware of Charles' skill set. What am I missing that those 2 aren't a great match and that Charles can't produce at levels that Westbrook and McCoy haven't in the past?
Then again, I see the error of my ways. If Reid ends up in KC, all Charles owners should trade him for what they can get.
Then again, I see the error of my ways. If Reid ends up in KC, all Charles owners should trade him for what they can get.
donkshow
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I'm not saying he can't still be fantastic. But having a pass-first isn't necessarily a good thing for Charles.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
so pioli out then?
JH56
Footballguy
Charles by year rsh, rec ave touch per game
2008-67, 27, 5.87
2009-190,40, 15.33
2010-230,45, 17.18
2011-inj
2012-284,36, 20.00
Shady under Reid
2009-155,40, 12.18
2010-207,78, 19
2011-273,48, 21.4
2012-200,54, 21.16
Sometimes perception does not match reality. PHI homer here. Reid got the ball to his main RB a LOT. He got too cute near the goal line for me but the notion that JC got more touches than Reid got Shady is nonsense.
2008-67, 27, 5.87
2009-190,40, 15.33
2010-230,45, 17.18
2011-inj
2012-284,36, 20.00
Shady under Reid
2009-155,40, 12.18
2010-207,78, 19
2011-273,48, 21.4
2012-200,54, 21.16
Sometimes perception does not match reality. PHI homer here. Reid got the ball to his main RB a LOT. He got too cute near the goal line for me but the notion that JC got more touches than Reid got Shady is nonsense.
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mphtrilogy
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i like the hire for kc if he goes there..
T Bell
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Does Charles love to catch and pass block?Reid loves to pass. Hopefully he'll use Charles properly.Definitely - Westbrook put up HORRIBLE fantasy numbers as did a healthy Shady
JohnnyU
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Maybe Hillis' value goes down, but Charles' value actually goes up. He will get a lot of receptions and receiving yds, to go along with his rushing totals.
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
Hillis signed a 1 year deal last season, so whatever value that Hillis has will probably be with another team in 2013.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Absolutely horrible posting.Say what you will about his game management, personnel decisions, the Castillo fiasco, etc, but Andy Reid is unquestionably a strong offensive coach -- MUCH better in that aspect than anyone the Chiefs have had in recent years. His primary RBs have pretty much ALWAYS been fantasy stud RB1s. Healthier offense + much more involvement in the passing game + less of a committee approach certainly isn't going to make Charles LESS valuable. Charles, having proven that he's back 100% and now in a VERY RB-friendly system, is likely headed for top-5 overall pick territory.
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
my question also.. I was a bit surprised he wasnt canned along with Romeo the other dayas for Charles value.. all depends on who's behind center and what wideouts KC can acquire/grow within the system. Was disappointed with Baldwin this year but wasnt sure if it was because of below avg. QB play or that he hasnt progressed.
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Bigboy10182000
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Cheifs fans...which QB do you like better out of Barkley or Smith?
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Fiddles
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saw sig on twitter talking about this also
I agree Reid is a major boon for Charles value. Put another way I'm big time bummed for Ryan Williams value he did not land in Arizona.I do think Reid is a much better offensive coach for fantasy purposes than anyone the Chiefs have had recently but taking fantasy out of the equation I'm not sure he's a better NFL OC than Haley. I thought Haley was solid. The talent was poor so the numbers were never going to be great but I thought he managed the talent very well. Part of that management involved keeping Charles touches in check which rubbed a lot of people wrong in fantasy football but in terms of the real NFL I thought he handled his touches close to perfect. A Haley offense may not produce the points of a Reid offense but it also won't usually get your QB hit so often or produce the turnovers.
Deranged Hermit
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If Reid goes to KC, I think it's a slam dunk he takes a QB. Probably will try to catch lightning in a bottle for a second time after his success with McNabb.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
As a Steelers' homer, IMO Haley really wasn't super impressive this year. Certainly not saying he's awful, but seems more like your run-of-the-mill solid NFL OC. I see Reid as an exceptional offensive mind -- if he were willing to settle for that role I think he'd be among the very best offensive coordinators in the NFL.
As a Charles owner and fan, I agree that his carries probably shouldn't be among the league leaders in the interest of keeping him healthy longer. I definitely think getting him more involved making plays in space in the passing game will really add to KC's offense (and Charles' overall stat-line).
As a Charles owner and fan, I agree that his carries probably shouldn't be among the league leaders in the interest of keeping him healthy longer. I definitely think getting him more involved making plays in space in the passing game will really add to KC's offense (and Charles' overall stat-line).
babydemon90
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Andy Reid's offenses prior to Vick were very low on turnovers....
Bigboy10182000
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Local radio saying **** Jauron will be the DC in KC if Andy goes.
joey
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Any chance they make a run at Flynn since he's a product of the West Coast/Green Bay/Philly system?'Deranged Hermit said:'Bigboy10182000 said:
CalBear
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Are Flynn or Alex Smith really different guys than Cassell? Cassell's 2010 is better than any season Smith has had, and Flynn couldn't beat out a late-round rookie despite getting a big contract. If you put Smith out there on a crappy KC team he's going to get eaten alive just like he did on a crappy Niner team for five years.
Bigboy10182000
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He'll bring in McNabb as his Doug Peterson and they'll draft Geno #1 overall. Reid won't let Albert leave either IMO'Deranged Hermit said:'Bigboy10182000 said:
Lordcoca
Footballguy
That late round rookie who beat out Flynn has been pretty spectacular this season, and he also got his chance to shine thanks to a preseason injury Flynn suffered. Also I was thinking the price might be right for Flynn, because I can't imagine Seattle wanting to keep him around as a backup. Like you said, he's got a big contract.Alex Smith, yeah, I'd be less excited about him. But he has proven himself to be the anti-Cassel as far as turnovers are concerned. Still, I see your point here. Smith has proven that he isn't significantly better than Cassel, and we haven't seen enough of Flynn to really draw a conclusion. The same, however, could be said of Smith and Barkley. My point was basically that I don't think either of those guys are worth that #1 pick. Personally, I'd like to see us trade away that #1 pick to the highest buyer.Even though we have a need for a QB, If we do keep that #1 pick, I would want to use it on the best overall prospect. My understanding is there are some great defensive prospects out there. That might be the way to go.
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Problem is the draft class doesnt have that #1 player teams would deal up for or at least give up a lot to make it worth while. Guess its debatable but I wouldnt take Geno or Barkley in the top 10.
BeaverCleaver
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ok LHUCKS
