Another school shooting (1 Viewer)

[sporthenry]

I'm not surprised by this incident. Our society allows cigarettes. Guns just makes the process faster. Think of it that way.We, as a society, are allowing these companies to make violent shooting games. I'm looking at you Activision and EA. It started with the game Doom in 1993 and school shootings are just common occurrence now.http://www.freeonlinegames.com/game/school-invaders :|If I was video game designer and I released a school shooting game as freeware, what are these software game companies doing any different?Sometimes these people want the real-life experience. Does anyone think porn is somewhat similar?

You will get blasted for this, but I'm convinced that video games play a role in some of these shootings.A mentally stable person isn't going to go shooting up a school after playing GRand Theft Auto.But a messed up person....just might lose their grip on reality and perform acts that they've done thousands of times before, only this time they do it for real. If your kid has any strange behaviors than as a parent you should definitely minimize te violence they are exposed to. Who knows if that had even a small part in this story or not. But if it came out that he played violent video games all the time, then it might have to be considered.

Well he gets blasted b/c of his first statement. After I read the whole, guns do the same thing as cigarettes, just faster, I sort of knew what we were getting into. Certainly, video games might have some effect, but what should we do? Ban video games? So you are going to restrict the freedoms of normal American citizens protected by the first amendment by banning video games, at least the violent ones, but we aren't going to talk about the guns? http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/exclusive/why-supreme-court-says-first-amendment-protects-violent-171155072.html

Sexual and violent content are viewed differently: America has a long tradition of limiting depictions of sexual acts, the Court notes, but has never been as restrictive about violence. "Certainly the books we give children to read — or read to them when they are younger — contain no shortage of gore," Scalia wrote. "Grimm's Fairy Tales, for example, are grim indeed."The science doesn't support censorship: The Supreme Court dismisses research that violence poses a threat to children, saying that it doesn't prove that violent video games cause children to act aggressively.

I have no problem putting restriction on violence and perhaps it is time to change our restrictions on violence but then we should also look into the intent of the 2nd amendment. And at the very least, we should have to provide studies linking the video games to violence, which in the view of the court, wasn't shown.

 

[jomar]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but how did the older brother go 2 years without seeing his younger brother?

 

[fruity pebbles]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but how did the older brother go 2 years without seeing his younger brother?

Lived in diff States and maybe they weren't close? Dunno.

 

[sporthenry]

Listen, I agree with you. I'm just sharing news. I never said that all weird, nerdy, distant, loner high school kids grow up to be mass murders. Obviously, 99.9999999% don't. I'm just saying that (playing Monday Morning QB as you suggest) Lanza does look a bit more nerdy, loner, distant, weird than the other guys in the photo; that matches the decriptions that we're hearing in the media from former classmates and family friends; and he was so odd that former acquaintances aren't stunned to find out that he was the culprit.

Yeah, I'm not trying to butt heads, I just think this becomes a narrative the media runs with and the population eats up b/c it makes it easier to think this was an odd occurrence and wouldn't happen in their area. That this kid was unique in his behavior and that nobody around here would do this b/c we are vigilant. It almost becomes a coping mechanism which is fine and all, but it does a little disservice to people who don't remain vigilant about the threat.

 

[jomar]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but how did the older brother go 2 years without seeing his younger brother?

Lived in diff States and maybe they weren't close? Dunno.

He lived close enough, I believe. It seems kind of strange to live (presumably) within an hour of your mom and brother and not see him in 2 years. Almost like he didn't want to see him...

 

[urbanhack]

speechless

 

[mr roboto]

speechless

I wouldn't want to go in there.

 

[xulf]

Apparently the Westboro Baptist Church is planning to picket the funerals of all the children. These ####ers need to be taught a lesson.

I thought that was a satire site -- why do they protest at all these funerals?

Publicity.

what are they protesting -- death?there's a pic in a thread I saw earlier where some college students formed a human wall to keep them out of some vet's funeral.

If a fund exists to stop these a-holes from protesting im in for $1,000.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Something that should come as a surprise to no one, the reports that Lanza had a previous altercation at the school were investigated and have proven to be false, per CNN.

Remember when reporters actually used to check to see if things were true before reporting them, rather than regurgitating whatever rumors the heard on Facebook or Twitter without regard to their accuracy?

 

[jamny]

was anyone injured or did all the victims die?

 

[BassNBrew]

Something that should come as a surprise to no one, the reports that Lanza had a previous altercation at the school were investigated and have proven to be false, per CNN. Remember when reporters actually used to check to see if things were true before reporting them, rather than regurgitating whatever rumors the heard on Facebook or Twitter without regard to their accuracy?

We can look into the mirror and see the reason for that.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

was anyone injured or did all the victims die?

A teacher and 2 kids were taken to the hospital but only the adult survived.

 

[Parmcat]

was anyone injured or did all the victims die?

I think I heard yesterday, there was one person injured, all the rest died

 

[Parmcat]

Apparently the Westboro Baptist Church is planning to picket the funerals of all the children. These ####ers need to be taught a lesson.

I thought that was a satire site -- why do they protest at all these funerals?

Publicity.

what are they protesting -- death?there's a pic in a thread I saw earlier where some college students formed a human wall to keep them out of some vet's funeral.

If a fund exists to stop these a-holes from protesting im in for $1,000.

I saw a video the other day that had the KKK protest WBC, when they were protesting a military death.Sickos

 

[LittleLarry]

I can't shake the sadness. Gun violence like this in the US has never happened to this many young kids before.

The closest examples I could find:

1989 Cleveland - Guys fires an AK47 on kids playing outside. 5 deaths, kids age 6-9

2006 Amish school shooting. 5 girls, ages 6-13 are shot and killed.

So this is four times as bad as either of the two examples prior.

 

[biggamer3]

Since I haven't heard anything about it since, can I assume that 4chan screenshot posted yesterday was faked?

The story has hit the mainstream media, but I don't see any resolution yet.

it was clearly a fake, some website posted it and all the replies in the comment section pointed out it was a photoshop job since the postings on 4Chan all go to the second and this pic did not.

 

[dutch]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but how did the older brother go 2 years without seeing his younger brother?

Lived in diff States and maybe they weren't close? Dunno.

He lived close enough, I believe. It seems kind of strange to live (presumably) within an hour of your mom and brother and not see him in 2 years. Almost like he didn't want to see him...

Family rifts happen. Me and many in my family live less than an hour away from my sister and none of us have seen her in 2+ years and only a "privileged" couple have heard from her in any capacity in that time span.

 

[Slapdash]

I can honestly say that there is not one person that I have known or know now that wouldn't be a surprise if they murdered children. I would assume most people would say the same. Even the worst of the people we meet throughout our lives put a child's life on a different level. That's what makes this so disgusting.

On the same note, I knew a lot of so-called weird people. Heck, I was one. I used to play Magic at lunch with guys that wore capes. I used to play D and D with guys that made their own swords. Just because someone has different interests doesn't make them a risk.

Whoa.

lol

Combine that with a username of "eviloutsider" and we might have someone to put on a watch list.

Ridiculous.

 

[urbanhack]

Something that should come as a surprise to no one, the reports that Lanza had a previous altercation at the school were investigated and have proven to be false, per CNN. Remember when reporters actually used to check to see if things were true before reporting them, rather than regurgitating whatever rumors the heard on Facebook or Twitter without regard to their accuracy?

We can look into the mirror and see the reason for that.

We can?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Something that should come as a surprise to no one, the reports that Lanza had a previous altercation at the school were investigated and have proven to be false, per CNN. Remember when reporters actually used to check to see if things were true before reporting them, rather than regurgitating whatever rumors the heard on Facebook or Twitter without regard to their accuracy?

We can look into the mirror and see the reason for that.

We can?

Yeah, we're a society that wants instant gratification on everything. That includes breaking news whether it's right or wrong news. Everyone wants to be the first instead of the most correct.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I can honestly say that there is not one person that I have known or know now that wouldn't be a surprise if they murdered children. I would assume most people would say the same. Even the worst of the people we meet throughout our lives put a child's life on a different level. That's what makes this so disgusting.

On the same note, I knew a lot of so-called weird people. Heck, I was one. I used to play Magic at lunch with guys that wore capes. I used to play D and D with guys that made their own swords. Just because someone has different interests doesn't make them a risk.

Whoa.

lol

Combine that with a username of "eviloutsider" and we might have someone to put on a watch list.

Ridiculous.

 

[tri-man 47]

A friend recently posted these eloquently stated thoughts on her FB page, and I'd like to share them here:

"Here's what I believe. That what happened yesterday didn't happen because of the news media, or because of poor gun control, or because of a mother who owned guns, or even because of a failed mental health system. There is no "fault" to be found, only responsibility, and that responsibility lies solely with a very disturbed young man who followed one heinous action with another, resulting in a tragedy of incomprehensible consequences. I also believe that all life comes from the Creator, and that that Creator -- whether you call him Lord God, Yahweh, Allah, Buddha or something else -- has instilled in each of us a voice that inclines us to that which is Good. That voice is universal, and transcends time, culture, social status and religious persuasion. It is why we as humans recognize the sanctity of life, why we appreciate the blessings bestowed on us every day, why we instinctively extend a hand to a stranger, why ordinary people rise to t...he occasion in extraordinary circumstances, why the horror of Sandy Hook has rocked every one of us to our core. I believe that for some, the voice -- that inclination toward what is Good -- is somehow overpowered, whether by the noise of mental illness, or substance abuse, or greed, or some other frailty of the human condition. And I may be wrong in all of this, but it is the only way that I can reconcile my belief that no human life is put on this earth for the purpose of doing evil with what transpired yesterday. And so I pray for the children that were lost, for their families, for the teachers that put themselves in harm's way, for the mother who gave life to the boy who took hers from her, for the first responders, for the comforters, and for us all."

 

[mad sweeney]

Apparently the Westboro Baptist Church is planning to picket the funerals of all the children. These ####ers need to be taught a lesson.

I thought that was a satire site -- why do they protest at all these funerals?

Publicity.

what are they protesting -- death?there's a pic in a thread I saw earlier where some college students formed a human wall to keep them out of some vet's funeral.

If a fund exists to stop these a-holes from protesting im in for $1,000.

I feel like personal action would be better than a fund. I know if I ever heard of them protesting anything in the LA area I'd go be a part of a human chain.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Something that should come as a surprise to no one, the reports that Lanza had a previous altercation at the school were investigated and have proven to be false, per CNN. Remember when reporters actually used to check to see if things were true before reporting them, rather than regurgitating whatever rumors the heard on Facebook or Twitter without regard to their accuracy?

We can look into the mirror and see the reason for that.

We can?

we`re not paid to report the news

 

[BassNBrew]

Something that should come as a surprise to no one, the reports that Lanza had a previous altercation at the school were investigated and have proven to be false, per CNN. Remember when reporters actually used to check to see if things were true before reporting them, rather than regurgitating whatever rumors the heard on Facebook or Twitter without regard to their accuracy?

We can look into the mirror and see the reason for that.

We can?

What the Wreck said applies. Being the first is more important than being accurate any more. FBG catches heck for not having an update out in a timely manner and that's about pretend football.I haven't watched one bit of coverage. What I've heard about this has come from this thread. As I basically suggested yesterday, I'll wait for a day or two for the police/gov't to sort it out and then read about the details. I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, but knowing what type of gun was used, the shooter's family situation, or interview's of the victim's family is useless information to me. It doesn't bring the kids back. All it can do is make me sad which isn't productive. I watch the news to be informed about things, not speculation. Not throwing stones because I guilty as the rest (and it can be fun or an outlet), but if we put our time/energy spent on speculation into our kids, helping our neighbors or community, this nation as a whole would be better off.

 

[Mjolnirs]

Something that should come as a surprise to no one, the reports that Lanza had a previous altercation at the school were investigated and have proven to be false, per CNN. Remember when reporters actually used to check to see if things were true before reporting them, rather than regurgitating whatever rumors the heard on Facebook or Twitter without regard to their accuracy?

Accuracy? They've got to be FIRST so they can run a promo later that they were first to tell you.

 

[urbanhack]

Something that should come as a surprise to no one, the reports that Lanza had a previous altercation at the school were investigated and have proven to be false, per CNN.

Remember when reporters actually used to check to see if things were true before reporting them, rather than regurgitating whatever rumors the heard on Facebook or Twitter without regard to their accuracy?

We can look into the mirror and see the reason for that.

We can?

What the Wreck said applies. Being the first is more important than being accurate any more. FBG catches heck for not having an update out in a timely manner and that's about pretend football.I haven't watched one bit of coverage. What I've heard about this has come from this thread. As I basically suggested yesterday, I'll wait for a day or two for the police/gov't to sort it out and then read about the details. I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, but knowing what type of gun was used, the shooter's family situation, or interview's of the victim's family is useless information to me. It doesn't bring the kids back. All it can do is make me sad which isn't productive. I watch the news to be informed about things, not speculation. Not throwing stones because I guilty as the rest (and it can be fun or an outlet), but if we put our time/energy spent on speculation into our kids, helping our neighbors or community, this nation as a whole would be better off.

All good. Agree with you here.

 

[AAABatteries]

Jesus - just watching CNN going through the list of names and ages.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

What has my brain looping on the events is the motive? What did these innocent little angels do that caused them to be so repuslive that they needed to be exterminated? I don't pretend to know what's in the mind of a madman or really even want to go there. But the question of motive looms and must be reconciled in some way shape or form to pretend that we live in a safe normal world. Otherwise, we are just pretending. Just kidding ourselves.

I think this guy really really wanted to commit suicide, but didn't have the courage to face his own fears of facing death. So maybe he needed to raise the stakes and really make the world hate him so he could go thru with it. This is just a stab in the dark. Totally wrong I'm sure. But it's the type of mental gymnastics I do to try to reconcile with today's suddenly cruel world where kindergartners aren't safe anymore. Doesn't make any sense, and we live in a world that requires that everything makes sense. There's no good way to discuss this with my kids. No way to rationalize with BSing them. No way to understand why things like this happen or shield them from it, no matter what lies I tell them.

 

[flapgreen]

I can honestly say that there is not one person that I have known or know now that wouldn't be a surprise if they murdered children. I would assume most people would say the same. Even the worst of the people we meet throughout our lives put a child's life on a different level. That's what makes this so disgusting.

On the same note, I knew a lot of so-called weird people. Heck, I was one. I used to play Magic at lunch with guys that wore capes. I used to play D and D with guys that made their own swords. Just because someone has different interests doesn't make them a risk.

Whoa.

lol

Combine that with a username of "eviloutsider" and we might have someone to put on a watch list.

lol

 

[biggamer3]

What has my brain looping on the events is the motive? What did these innocent little angels do that caused them to be so repuslive that they needed to be exterminated? I don't pretend to know what's in the mind of a madman or really even want to go there. But the question of motive looms and must be reconciled in some way shape or form to pretend that we live in a safe normal world. Otherwise, we are just pretending. Just kidding ourselves. I think this guy really really wanted to commit suicide, but didn't have the courage to face his own fears of facing death. So maybe he needed to raise the stakes and really make the world hate him so he could go thru with it. This is just a stab in the dark. Totally wrong I'm sure. But it's the type of mental gymnastics I do to try to reconcile with today's suddenly cruel world where kindergartners aren't safe anymore. Doesn't make any sense, and we live in a world that requires that everything makes sense. There's no good way to discuss this with my kids. No way to rationalize with BSing them. No way to understand why things like this happen or shield them from it, no matter what lies I tell them.

I think its as simple as when madmen snap they just kill for the kills sake. What motive did the Movie theater shooter have? what motive did Gifford's shooter actually have?This stings the worst since kids were massacred but none of these murderers ever has a real motive- they just snap.

 

[bosoxs45]

Sorry but I just have a hard time believing violent video games would turn someone to shoot up an elementary school.

 

[Raider Nation]

What has my brain looping on the events is the motive? What did these innocent little angels do that caused them to be so repuslive that they needed to be exterminated? I don't pretend to know what's in the mind of a madman or really even want to go there. But the question of motive looms and must be reconciled in some way shape or form to pretend that we live in a safe normal world. Otherwise, we are just pretending. Just kidding ourselves.

The TV psychologists speculated that he was jealous the time his mother spent with the kids.So he killed her and everyone she loved.

 

[sporthenry]

Something that should come as a surprise to no one, the reports that Lanza had a previous altercation at the school were investigated and have proven to be false, per CNN.

Remember when reporters actually used to check to see if things were true before reporting them, rather than regurgitating whatever rumors the heard on Facebook or Twitter without regard to their accuracy?

We can look into the mirror and see the reason for that.

We can?

What the Wreck said applies. Being the first is more important than being accurate any more. FBG catches heck for not having an update out in a timely manner and that's about pretend football.I haven't watched one bit of coverage. What I've heard about this has come from this thread. As I basically suggested yesterday, I'll wait for a day or two for the police/gov't to sort it out and then read about the details. I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, but knowing what type of gun was used, the shooter's family situation, or interview's of the victim's family is useless information to me. It doesn't bring the kids back. All it can do is make me sad which isn't productive. I watch the news to be informed about things, not speculation. Not throwing stones because I guilty as the rest (and it can be fun or an outlet), but if we put our time/energy spent on speculation into our kids, helping our neighbors or community, this nation as a whole would be better off.

All good. Agree with you here.

I think people want to know to understand why. Yes, things are sad, but I want to know everything I know to ensure this doesn't happen again. It is the same reason why many people study serial killers and the like to understand their motives/intention to prevent or quickly apprehend future serial killers.

 

[flapgreen]

Something that should come as a surprise to no one, the reports that Lanza had a previous altercation at the school were investigated and have proven to be false, per CNN.

Remember when reporters actually used to check to see if things were true before reporting them, rather than regurgitating whatever rumors the heard on Facebook or Twitter without regard to their accuracy?

We can look into the mirror and see the reason for that.

We can?

What the Wreck said applies. Being the first is more important than being accurate any more. FBG catches heck for not having an update out in a timely manner and that's about pretend football.I haven't watched one bit of coverage. What I've heard about this has come from this thread. As I basically suggested yesterday, I'll wait for a day or two for the police/gov't to sort it out and then read about the details. I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, but knowing what type of gun was used, the shooter's family situation, or interview's of the victim's family is useless information to me. It doesn't bring the kids back. All it can do is make me sad which isn't productive. I watch the news to be informed about things, not speculation. Not throwing stones because I guilty as the rest (and it can be fun or an outlet), but if we put our time/energy spent on speculation into our kids, helping our neighbors or community, this nation as a whole would be better off.

All good. Agree with you here.

I think people want to know to understand why. Yes, things are sad, but I want to know everything I know to ensure this doesn't happen again. It is the same reason why many people study serial killers and the like to understand their motives/intention to prevent or quickly apprehend future serial killers.

I'm of the same mindset on this one.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

What has my brain looping on the events is the motive? What did these innocent little angels do that caused them to be so repuslive that they needed to be exterminated? I don't pretend to know what's in the mind of a madman or really even want to go there. But the question of motive looms and must be reconciled in some way shape or form to pretend that we live in a safe normal world. Otherwise, we are just pretending. Just kidding ourselves.

The TV psychologists speculated that he was jealous the time his mother spent with the kids.So he killed her and everyone she loved.

I have no reason to doubt any of this, and I understand that thee was actually some reason going through his head, but I think the actual reason is that he was crazy -- the rest of these reasons are a bit of a red herring.I turned a buddy of mine on to these mighty mouse remakes because they were pretty funny.so, later I hear through mutual friends that he thinks mighty mouse was talking to him, and they were busting my balls about it.he was working a lot of hours, and was a bit of a drug user, so I don't know if he was having a nervous breakdown, did the wrong stuff, or what, but I doubt mm was actually talking to him.

 

[Raider Nation]

What has my brain looping on the events is the motive? What did these innocent little angels do that caused them to be so repuslive that they needed to be exterminated? I don't pretend to know what's in the mind of a madman or really even want to go there. But the question of motive looms and must be reconciled in some way shape or form to pretend that we live in a safe normal world. Otherwise, we are just pretending. Just kidding ourselves.

The TV psychologists speculated that he was jealous the time his mother spent with the kids.So he killed her and everyone she loved.

I have no reason to doubt any of this, and I understand that thee was actually some reason going through his head, but I think the actual reason is that he was crazy -- the rest of these reasons are a bit of a red herring.

Well of course. They were speculating as to the reasons in his head.Obviously there is going to be no acceptable answer.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

What has my brain looping on the events is the motive? What did these innocent little angels do that caused them to be so repuslive that they needed to be exterminated? I don't pretend to know what's in the mind of a madman or really even want to go there. But the question of motive looms and must be reconciled in some way shape or form to pretend that we live in a safe normal world. Otherwise, we are just pretending. Just kidding ourselves.

The TV psychologists speculated that he was jealous the time his mother spent with the kids.So he killed her and everyone she loved.

I have no reason to doubt any of this, and I understand that thee was actually some reason going through his head, but I think the actual reason is that he was crazy -- the rest of these reasons are a bit of a red herring.

Well of course. They were speculating as to the reasons in his head.Obviously there is going to be no acceptable answer.

yeah, I understand that, but that's kind of my point.maybe the reasons inside his head were mighty mouse told him to do it.

looking at this through a prism of sane rationality kind of puts us at odds with the inside of his head.

if the reason was indeed what you posted, does that even get us anywhere?

I think iyt's like trying to imagine what your dog's thinking.

 

[badmojo1006]

What has my brain looping on the events is the motive? What did these innocent little angels do that caused them to be so repuslive that they needed to be exterminated? I don't pretend to know what's in the mind of a madman or really even want to go there. But the question of motive looms and must be reconciled in some way shape or form to pretend that we live in a safe normal world. Otherwise, we are just pretending. Just kidding ourselves.

The TV psychologists speculated that he was jealous the time his mother spent with the kids.So he killed her and everyone she loved.

It has been proven that she was not a teacher at the school

 

[Raider Nation]

What has my brain looping on the events is the motive? What did these innocent little angels do that caused them to be so repuslive that they needed to be exterminated? I don't pretend to know what's in the mind of a madman or really even want to go there. But the question of motive looms and must be reconciled in some way shape or form to pretend that we live in a safe normal world. Otherwise, we are just pretending. Just kidding ourselves.

The TV psychologists speculated that he was jealous the time his mother spent with the kids.So he killed her and everyone she loved.

It has been proven that she was not a teacher at the school

On the Today Show this morning, Matt Lauer said she was a part-time teacher and volunteer at the school.Has that since been proven incorrect?

 

[sporthenry]

What has my brain looping on the events is the motive? What did these innocent little angels do that caused them to be so repuslive that they needed to be exterminated? I don't pretend to know what's in the mind of a madman or really even want to go there. But the question of motive looms and must be reconciled in some way shape or form to pretend that we live in a safe normal world. Otherwise, we are just pretending. Just kidding ourselves. I think this guy really really wanted to commit suicide, but didn't have the courage to face his own fears of facing death. So maybe he needed to raise the stakes and really make the world hate him so he could go thru with it. This is just a stab in the dark. Totally wrong I'm sure. But it's the type of mental gymnastics I do to try to reconcile with today's suddenly cruel world where kindergartners aren't safe anymore. Doesn't make any sense, and we live in a world that requires that everything makes sense. There's no good way to discuss this with my kids. No way to rationalize with BSing them. No way to understand why things like this happen or shield them from it, no matter what lies I tell them.

I think its as simple as when madmen snap they just kill for the kills sake. What motive did the Movie theater shooter have? what motive did Gifford's shooter actually have?This stings the worst since kids were massacred but none of these murderers ever has a real motive- they just snap.

But the point is, this takes a very disturbing motive (or none at all) to go after children. The Giffords shooting was a result of Loughner thinking Giffords was bad for America. So that was an actual motive and he posted online multiple times about this. The Aurora one has less of a motive but a reason for the snap being him failing out of school. Of course it is too early to tell why Lanza snapped, but we at least had a reason why Holmes snapped and the motives for his action seemed like he thought he was the Joker with the hair and doing it at batman. I will agree that going after children is perhaps the greatest crime on humanity and to not even seemingly have a logical step to get to the kids is what is scary/disturbing.

 

[badmojo1006]

What has my brain looping on the events is the motive? What did these innocent little angels do that caused them to be so repuslive that they needed to be exterminated? I don't pretend to know what's in the mind of a madman or really even want to go there. But the question of motive looms and must be reconciled in some way shape or form to pretend that we live in a safe normal world. Otherwise, we are just pretending. Just kidding ourselves.

The TV psychologists speculated that he was jealous the time his mother spent with the kids.So he killed her and everyone she loved.

It has been proven that she was not a teacher at the school

On the Today Show this morning, Matt Lauer said she was a part-time teacher and volunteer at the school.Has that since been proven incorrect?

News reports Friday suggested that Nancy Lanza had worked at the elementary school, but at a news conference on Saturday, the school superintendent said there was no evidence that she had ever worked at the school as a full-time or substitute teacher, or in any other capacity

 

[Ursa M]

Something that should come as a surprise to no one, the reports that Lanza had a previous altercation at the school were investigated and have proven to be false, per CNN. Remember when reporters actually used to check to see if things were true before reporting them, rather than regurgitating whatever rumors the heard on Facebook or Twitter without regard to their accuracy?

We can look into the mirror and see the reason for that.

We can?

What the Wreck said applies. Being the first is more important than being accurate any more. FBG catches heck for not having an update out in a timely manner and that's about pretend football.I haven't watched one bit of coverage. What I've heard about this has come from this thread. As I basically suggested yesterday, I'll wait for a day or two for the police/gov't to sort it out and then read about the details. I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, but knowing what type of gun was used, the shooter's family situation, or interview's of the victim's family is useless information to me. It doesn't bring the kids back. All it can do is make me sad which isn't productive. I watch the news to be informed about things, not speculation. Not throwing stones because I guilty as the rest (and it can be fun or an outlet), but if we put our time/energy spent on speculation into our kids, helping our neighbors or community, this nation as a whole would be better off.

Pretty certain we don't exactly see eye to eye politically but this is a I haven't watched a thing about the massacre because it's going to be worthless, a bunch of fact-deficient so-called reporters doing their best to get crying people on camera. I have read some of the newspaper reports, focusing on what actually happened. Apart from that, I'll wait until the facts emerge properly, thanks.

 

[Short Corner]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but how did the older brother go 2 years without seeing his younger brother?

Lived in diff States and maybe they weren't close? Dunno.

He lived close enough, I believe. It seems kind of strange to live (presumably) within an hour of your mom and brother and not see him in 2 years. Almost like he didn't want to see him...

I don't think it is strange at all given his actions. The possibility of some sort of friction between the two seems to be a likely possibility especially if he was on behavioral meds as is being reported.

 

[beavers]

Why can't we classify these incidents as terrorism so that federal funding could be applied to upgrading the safety and security of our schools?

 

[biggamer3]

As everyone likely knows the heroism of Victoria Soto has been spreading like wildfire on Facebook with just cause.

My question is, if Soto and the gunman are now dead, who heard her tell him the kids were in the gym?

I guess its the kids in the closet, if that's the case this makes the story all the more amazing in that no kid made a sound after hearing their beloved teacher gunned down a few feet away from them

 

[Short Corner]

Why can't we classify these incidents as terrorism so that federal funding could be applied to upgrading the safety and security of our schools?

You don't need a terrorism label for Fed funding. And FTR, the district lost $125K this year in security funding when BHO and congress pulled it. Can't assume that it would have made a difference either way, but can't assume that it wouldn't have either.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

What has my brain looping on the events is the motive? What did these innocent little angels do that caused them to be so repuslive that they needed to be exterminated? I don't pretend to know what's in the mind of a madman or really even want to go there. But the question of motive looms and must be reconciled in some way shape or form to pretend that we live in a safe normal world. Otherwise, we are just pretending. Just kidding ourselves.

The TV psychologists speculated that he was jealous the time his mother spent with the kids.So he killed her and everyone she loved.

It has been proven that she was not a teacher at the school

On the Today Show this morning, Matt Lauer said she was a part-time teacher and volunteer at the school.Has that since been proven incorrect?

News reports Friday suggested that Nancy Lanza had worked at the elementary school, but at a news conference on Saturday, the school superintendent said there was no evidence that she had ever worked at the school as a full-time or substitute teacher, or in any other capacity

Why can't we get a straight answer on this?

 

[beavers]

Why can't we classify these incidents as terrorism so that federal funding could be applied to upgrading the safety and security of our schools?

You don't need a terrorism label for Fed funding. And FTR, the district lost $125K this year in security funding when BHO and congress pulled it. Can't assume that it would have made a difference either way, but can't assume that it wouldn't have either.

Right, but there's a ton of $ right now being poured into the war on terror so in my opinion, this could be consistent and last for a while.

 

[Short Corner]

Why can't we classify these incidents as terrorism so that federal funding could be applied to upgrading the safety and security of our schools?

You don't need a terrorism label for Fed funding. And FTR, the district lost $125K this year in security funding when BHO and congress pulled it. Can't assume that it would have made a difference either way, but can't assume that it wouldn't have either.

Right, but there's a ton of $ right now being poured into the war on terror so in my opinion, this could be consistent and last for a while.

True, if they can get it under that umbrella it will probably have more staying power. Would like to see what hypocrites fight for it now after taking it away so recently.