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Any banking guys that can offer solutions to a vexing issue? (2 Viewers)

scorchy

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Greetings. It's been a while, but the FFA is still the first place I turn when I literally have no clue how to solve something.

Last night, a close friend from growing up who has lived in Taiwan for years asked if she could call me to brainstorm a problem. A couple years back, her father died and left her about $200K. It's been sitting in her U.S. M&T bank savings account (and yes, she's been paying taxes) since the estate was settled. She wants to buy an apartment in Taiwan and needs the money from M&T, preferably sooner rather than later because she found a place she really likes that's being sold by a coworker.

When she contacted M&T, they told her the only way they could send the money to her Taiwanese account is for her to fly to the US and fill out the paperwork in person - wiring the money isn't possible. M&T's website indicates this is standard policy. No one at M&T will budge on this and they don't seem willing to offer any other options. So, after I spoke with the old friend, Mrs. Scorchy and I started brainstorming and I decided to play the "ask the FFA" card:

1) Could she open another US bank account from abroad (at a bank that allows foreign wire transfers (without being in-person) and hope that M&T would allow a domestic wire transfer?
2) Could she somehow give me power of attorney without leaving Taiwan, thus allowing me to go to M&T on her behalf?
3) Is there anything else we're not considering?

I'm thinking the only realistic solution is that she's gonna have to fly here over during her school's break this winter, but then she'll miss out on this particular apartment. Appreciate any insight and yes, I'm 100 percent sure this isn't some sort of scam. :-)
 
Transfer to a Schwab type brokerage? Or literally any other bank?

I pay my rent via international wire transfer every month. TD bank, and Citibank before that.
 
And first off, how are you?


(Good to see you scorch...hope you and the fam are well)
Thanks, flop. The grapevine told me about floppinho/Yale - that's amazing. Meant to log in and pm a congrats, but you know what they say about good intentions. Things all good here - just did the conscious uncoupling thing with the FFA but that's another/uninteresting story.

The Schwab thing was our first thought but friend has had trouble getting any answers from M&T. They say wire transfers are only for business customers and non-wire transfers are limited to like $10k/month or something.

Unfortunately between the 12-hour time difference and my friend being a bit of a nutter, I'm not sure she's getting the best customer service from M&T. I could see a rep being like "f### this person." Still, I'll reiterate that she should at least ask about schwab.
 
i’ve been out the game a bit but man, shame on her. not what you want to hear, but m&t is hideous. especially for wires, since they really only support commercial customers. i don’t see a reasonable work around from where i sit to access the funds. m&t is an in person bank that would require physically taking out the funds via bank check and putting them into a more liberal account, i.e. BoA, which allows online wires up to 250k i believe.
 
i’ve been out the game a bit but man, shame on her. not what you want to hear, but m&t is hideous. especially for wires, since they really only support commercial customers. i don’t see a reasonable work around from where i sit to access the funds. m&t is an in person bank that would require physically taking out the funds via bank check and putting them into a more liberal account, i.e. BoA, which allows online wires up to 250k i believe.
Won’t it be challenging for her to open a new U.S. account without a verifiable U.S. address (among other challenges)?
 
i’ve been out the game a bit but man, shame on her. not what you want to hear, but m&t is hideous. especially for wires, since they really only support commercial customers. i don’t see a reasonable work around from where i sit to access the funds. m&t is an in person bank that would require physically taking out the funds via bank check and putting them into a more liberal account, i.e. BoA, which allows online wires up to 250k i believe.
Won’t it be challenging for her to open a new U.S. account without a verifiable U.S. address (among other challenges)?
then there’s that. so many issues i couldn’t cover them all. i mean, i know i what i had to do to keep a normal footprint. no idea what her plan is/was. does she have a US id? in some cases you can use a family member’s address as a work around. that part was not my forte however. i suppose there’s always chime, no idea how they operate. many issues here and none are quick, especially if you are not in the states physically.
 
Thanks, Chem. Mrs. Scorchy said the same thing about M&T, but hindsight is 20/20. In my friend's defense, she left the US in maybe 2002 and probably opened that account in her early 20s. Obviously, she should have dealt with this when her dad's estate was settled, but she never came back stateside and the estate just deposited the money in her holdover US account that she pays taxes from.

Regardless, I'll copy what you said (minus the "shame on her" part :lmao:) to let her know she's probably SOL. Guess she'll be making a trip stateside in January - no real family so looks like we might need to plan for a slightly loony houseguest.
 
Thanks, Chem. Mrs. Scorchy said the same thing about M&T, but hindsight is 20/20. In my friend's defense, she left the US in maybe 2002 and probably opened that account in her early 20s. Obviously, she should have dealt with this when her dad's estate was settled, but she never came back stateside and the estate just deposited the money in her holdover US account that she pays taxes from.

Regardless, I'll copy what you said (minus the "shame on her" part :lmao:) to let her know she's probably SOL. Guess she'll be making a trip stateside in January - no real family so looks like we might need to plan for a slightly loony houseguest.
IMO, give coworker a deposit and set a closing date of say 3 months or so. things don’t go fast overseas, maybe taiwan is different. come back stateside and deal with it. go back, profit. also, some foreign banks can accept US checks, especially i would think a bank check. maybe check with her bank in taiwan.
 
If she opens an account through their advisory services, they might have more flexible options for transferring funds. Your typical "retirement/investment account" likely requires higher transaction limits than transferring out of the average savings/checking account.

Obviously would need to understand account options, fees, potential drawbacks, etc. But they might have something that would work for what you're trying to accomplish. And you'd think the initial transfer between accounts would be easier.
 
What about this?

Get a divorce from your wife
Marry this chick, get a joint account and then transfer the money to her you
Get another divorce and then remarry your wife
Live in Belize
Might be some tax issues and stuff but seems like it could work.
Made some edits for clarity
There's a consummation/tulips joke in here somewhere, but I'm apparently now too stupid to edit posts without breaking the quote.
 
What about this?

Get a divorce from your wife
Marry this chick, get a joint account and then transfer the money to her
Get another divorce and then remarry your wife

Might be some tax issues and stuff but seems like it could work.

Or move to Utah and don't divorce anybody. Just move into one of those weird houses that connect but look like they're separate and try to grow your hair out like that strange guy from Sister Wives.

Edit: didnt like the use of the word "weird" twice in the same short post. :/Dumblabs
 
Serious answer:

Transfer the $$$ to Scorchy.
Scorchy buys 55 gold krugerands
Scorchy smuggles them into Taiwan
{INSERT SMUGGLE SUGGESTIONS HERE}
Scorchy enjoys a few days of R&R in lovely Taiwan.
Fly home
?????
Profit
 
Thanks, everybody. I've missed you guys.

I told Ms. Taiwan that I crowd-sourced her problem and she's calling me in a bit to find out what I've learned. Lots of great material here.
 
Greetings. It's been a while, but the FFA is still the first place I turn when I literally have no clue how to solve something.

Last night, a close friend from growing up who has lived in Taiwan for years asked if she could call me to brainstorm a problem. A couple years back, her father died and left her about $200K. It's been sitting in her U.S. M&T bank savings account (and yes, she's been paying taxes) since the estate was settled. She wants to buy an apartment in Taiwan and needs the money from M&T, preferably sooner rather than later because she found a place she really likes that's being sold by a coworker.

When she contacted M&T, they told her the only way they could send the money to her Taiwanese account is for her to fly to the US and fill out the paperwork in person - wiring the money isn't possible. M&T's website indicates this is standard policy. No one at M&T will budge on this and they don't seem willing to offer any other options. So, after I spoke with the old friend, Mrs. Scorchy and I started brainstorming and I decided to play the "ask the FFA" card:

1) Could she open another US bank account from abroad (at a bank that allows foreign wire transfers (without being in-person) and hope that M&T would allow a domestic wire transfer?
2) Could she somehow give me power of attorney without leaving Taiwan, thus allowing me to go to M&T on her behalf?
3) Is there anything else we're not considering?

I'm thinking the only realistic solution is that she's gonna have to fly here over during her school's break this winter, but then she'll miss out on this particular apartment. Appreciate any insight and yes, I'm 100 percent sure this isn't some sort of scam. :-)
Not sure if she would be able to open an account as a non-resident. Maybe something like the Bank of Taiwan (which has US branches) would let her do that. Maybe try Citi or HSBC, the international stuff is really their bread and butter.

 

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