If you think I'm going to look up the numbers to see how likely it is, you're wrong.I guess T. Brady and R. Moss where watching the Dallas game. Poor TO, looks like Moss is stealing his thunder. I think Jerry Rice's single season records of TD's and yards recieving are going to fall.
I guess the question should have been will R. Moss equal Rice's Td per game percentage. I do not think he will match that , but he might end up being pretty close by the time he is done.rice had 22 tds in 1987 (in 12 games)1848 yards in 1995.randy currently has 16 tds. looks like he'll get past 22 with no problem. he also has 1036 yards thru halftime. he may get that one too. i'm still blown away by rice's 22 tds in 12 games.
Rice also had 8/51/1 rushing, so he had 23 total TDs in 12 games.rice had 22 tds in 1987 (in 12 games)1848 yards in 1995.randy currently has 16 tds. looks like he'll get past 22 with no problem. he also has 1036 yards thru halftime. he may get that one too. i'm still blown away by rice's 22 tds in 12 games.
Rice only played one game against replacement players: 6 catches for 89 yards and 1 TD.The above is erroneous. Rice did not play any games against replacements.Pretty sure Rice got three games worth of his 12 against scabs when he and Montana chose not to go out on strike with the rest of the NFL players.
IIRC Montana returned early from the strike, he didn't play in every strike game.If you're counting 12 for Rice what happenned to the other 4, injury?Pretty sure Rice got three games worth of his 12 against scabs when he and Montana chose not to go out on strike with the rest of the NFL players.
The season was shortened by 1 game, to 15 regular season games, because week 3 was canceled. Replacement players were used in weeks 4-6.I don't know where to find Rice's game log for 1987, but I had assumed that the 12 games Rice played were the 12 games not played against replacement players (i.e., not weeks 4-6).Bri said:IIRC Montana returned early from the strike, he didn't play in every strike game.If you're counting 12 for Rice what happenned to the other 4, injury?Floyd The Barber said:Pretty sure Rice got three games worth of his 12 against scabs when he and Montana chose not to go out on strike with the rest of the NFL players.
Doug, which game was this? And how do you know this? Is there a site to find player game logs earlier than those on pro-football-reference.com?Doug Drinen said:Rice only played one game against replacement players: 6 catches for 89 yards and 1 TD.Floyd The Barber said:Pretty sure Rice got three games worth of his 12 against scabs when he and Montana chose not to go out on strike with the rest of the NFL players
NFL.com is your friend.I don't know where to find Rice's game log for 1987, but I had assumed that the 12 games Rice played were the 12 games not played against replacement players (i.e., not weeks 4-6).
Thanks.I'm pretty sure that Rice did not play against any replacement players. Where I posted above that week 3 was canceled and replacement players were used in weeks 4-6, I believe in game logs the replacement player games were renumbered as 3-5 and the missing game was ignored. The game log linked above shows that Rice played in weeks 1-2 and 6-15. The 49ers played 3 games - weeks 3-5 - that Rice did not play. I assume these were the games with replacement players, and thus Rice did not play against them.NFL.com is your friend.I don't know where to find Rice's game log for 1987, but I had assumed that the 12 games Rice played were the 12 games not played against replacement players (i.e., not weeks 4-6).
I think he was referring to that week 6 game. But, I think you're right that week 4 became week 3 and the replacement games were weeks 3-5, not 4-6. Also, I looked up other 49ers from 1987 and all of them ended with week 15.Rice apparently did not play any replacement games.Thanks.I'm pretty sure that Rice did not play against any replacement players. Where I posted above that week 3 was canceled and replacement players were used in weeks 4-6, I believe in game logs the replacement player games were renumbered as 3-5 and the missing game was ignored. The game log linked above shows that Rice played in weeks 1-2 and 6-15. The 49ers played 3 games - weeks 3-5 - that Rice did not play. I assume these were the games with replacement players, and thus Rice did not play against them.NFL.com is your friend.I don't know where to find Rice's game log for 1987, but I had assumed that the 12 games Rice played were the 12 games not played against replacement players (i.e., not weeks 4-6).
Doug, can you confirm this? I'm not sure which game you are saying Rice played against replacement players.
Ooh, I think you're right. They seem to have renumbered the weeks. The 49er's last game of 1987 was indeed on 12/27, which means Rice did play in it, which means that week 6 was NOT a replacement game, which means that Rice had zero games against replacements. Thanks.dgreen said:I think he was referring to that week 6 game. But, I think you're right that week 4 became week 3 and the replacement games were weeks 3-5, not 4-6. Also, I looked up other 49ers from 1987 and all of them ended with week 15.Rice apparently did not play any replacement games.Thanks.I'm pretty sure that Rice did not play against any replacement players. Where I posted above that week 3 was canceled and replacement players were used in weeks 4-6, I believe in game logs the replacement player games were renumbered as 3-5 and the missing game was ignored. The game log linked above shows that Rice played in weeks 1-2 and 6-15. The 49ers played 3 games - weeks 3-5 - that Rice did not play. I assume these were the games with replacement players, and thus Rice did not play against them.NFL.com is your friend.I don't know where to find Rice's game log for 1987, but I had assumed that the 12 games Rice played were the 12 games not played against replacement players (i.e., not weeks 4-6).
Doug, can you confirm this? I'm not sure which game you are saying Rice played against replacement players.
Like when Rice decided he wanted to use the ONLY retired number in Seahawks history?Don't fool yourself.Rice = class
Correct. Rice (and Steve Young) honored the picket line for the length of the strike unlike Montana, Craig, Lott and Steve Largent.Rice only played one game against replacement players: 6 catches for 89 yards and 1 TD.The above is erroneous. Rice did not play any games against replacements.Pretty sure Rice got three games worth of his 12 against scabs when he and Montana chose not to go out on strike with the rest of the NFL players.
Oh darn I was all set to tryLet's hope Moss gets 6 more TDs in the next two games so that we don't have to debate the issue. Honestly, Rice and Moss are clearly the 2 best WRs of all time. They are/were different type of players - Moss with his freakish talent, Rice with his freakish work ethic and hands, and you won't convince me that anyone was better than either of these two.
I posted this in the "Brady is the greatest ever..." thread too, but Rice's 22 TD's also came on only 65 receptions which is a ridiculous 1 TD every 3 catches.rice had 22 tds in 1987 (in 12 games)1848 yards in 1995.randy currently has 16 tds. looks like he'll get past 22 with no problem. he also has 1036 yards thru halftime. he may get that one too. i'm still blown away by rice's 22 tds in 12 games.
but IMO per-game records are much more impressive.....
Thanks for mentioning that. Jerry Rice was an incredible player, but asking to un-retire Steve Largent's jersey was among the most un-classy requests I've ever seen in pro sports. Steve Largent broke all of the major NFL career receiving records, though even when he broke them, it was clear he was just going to be a guest in the record books until Jerry Rice would destroy them all. Rice did, and Senator Largent graciously bid them farewell and passed them to a superior receiver. His number was retired, the only number retired by Seattle. Then in the twilight of Rice's career the Seahawks gave him a contract. Rice's first order of business was to take that retired number from Largent as well. It was a great opportunity for him to return the respect that Largent had paid him when each of his records fell, had he chosen to wear a different jersey for that last season, but he needed that too. It was the only thing he hadn't taken from Largent, and the only unique honor that remained from Largent's legacy as the team's most hallowed alumnus. Yes, he called Largent to ask for permission, and Largent again gracefully stepped aside for Rice. But really, what's Largent supposed to do? It would have been unclassy to deny the request, but if Rice had class, he would never have thought that he would be significant enough in Seahawks lore to even ask. If he had class he would have taken whatever number the Seahawks offered out of respect for Largent and let #80 rest until his induction into the Hall of Fame where it would be immortalized. Rice in a different jersey would have been a nice tribute to a great receiver, but a washed up Rice in a Seahawks #80 was a disgraceful end to a magnificent career, and a tribute only to himself.Like when Rice decided he wanted to use the ONLY retired number in Seahawks history?Don't fool yourself.Rice = class