Any news on Vincent Jackson trade rumors? (1 Viewer)

[Thumper]

I had heard some buzz about Jackson being dealt to several teams last night. The most likely of those teams being Seattle. I had also heard that the Vikings were interested.

Jackson must be dealt by the end of the day or face a six game suspension if he is traded to another team.

I took a late round flyer on Jackson and would love to see him back in action on week four.

 

[DropKick]

I had heard some buzz about Jackson being dealt to several teams last night. The most likely of those teams being Seattle. I had also heard that the Vikings were interested.Jackson must be dealt by the end of the day or face a six game suspension if he is traded to another team. I took a late round flyer on Jackson and would love to see him back in action on week four.

If not signed, doesn't that mean he would miss at least 9 games (six... then the 3 game league suspension)? Can't imagine they would run concurrently.

 

[Louisville Slugger]

I had heard some buzz about Jackson being dealt to several teams last night. The most likely of those teams being Seattle. I had also heard that the Vikings were interested.Jackson must be dealt by the end of the day or face a six game suspension if he is traded to another team. I took a late round flyer on Jackson and would love to see him back in action on week four.

I have heard the same rumors as everyone else. As of last night it looked like Seattle was the most likely landing spot. According to a couple of reports the Chargers are allowing Jackson to talk with other teams (rumors included the Redskins, Vikings and Cardinals) today in hopes of making a deal.If he landed with the Vikings or Cardinals he could post some pretty solid numbers. As a Jackson owner I kind of wish he'd go back to the Chargers and be ready for week 4.

 

[Louisville Slugger]

I had heard some buzz about Jackson being dealt to several teams last night. The most likely of those teams being Seattle. I had also heard that the Vikings were interested.Jackson must be dealt by the end of the day or face a six game suspension if he is traded to another team. I took a late round flyer on Jackson and would love to see him back in action on week four.

If not signed, doesn't that mean he would miss at least 9 games (six... then the 3 game league suspension)? Can't imagine they would run concurrently.

I believe that couldn't come back until after week six.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

He'll miss the first three games for sure, due to his suspension.

If he stays with the Chargers, he will miss the first three games after he reports, and he cannot report during his suspension (which starts today). So if he does not sign and report by today, he'd miss the first six games — three due to suspension and three due to a roster-exemption. (Actually, if he stays with the Chargers, he is likely to miss all 16 games — but only six would be due to the suspension and roster-exemption.)

If he is traded, it is not certain whether the roster-exemption would apply.

If he is not traded today, he cannot be traded until after the third game. But if he is traded immediately after the third game, there is a chance that he could play in week four.

(The league interprets the roster-exemption such that it would apply to the new team as well; the players' union interprets it such that it would apply only to the Chargers. The players' union has the better argument, IMO.)

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

To answer the question in the thread title, it does not appear likely that V.Jax will be traded today, although anything can happen.

The teams that showed some initial interest (the Seahawks, Vikings, Rams, Redskins) all appear to have been turned off by Jackson's contract demands. (You can never tell, though, whether people are telling the truth about matters involving contract negotiations.)

 

[Louisville Slugger]

To answer the question in the thread title, it does not appear likely that V.Jax will be traded today, although anything can happen.

The teams that showed some initial interest (the Seahawks, Vikings, Rams, Redskins) all appear to have been turned off by Jackson's contract demands. (You can never tell, though, whether people are telling the truth about matters involving contract negotiations.)

What a waste for the Chargers and Jackson if he doesn't play somewhere.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

St. Louis Post-Dispatch is reporting from two sources that the Rams are still in the mix.

 

[Couch Potato]

St. Louis Post-Dispatch is reporting from two sources that the Rams are still in the mix.

Bradford's accuracy and Jackson's ball skills would be a nice dynasty fit. As a VJ owner I'd like that over Seattle every day of the week. Maybe not so much for this year, but definitely going forward.

 

[Louisville Slugger]

St. Louis Post-Dispatch is reporting from two sources that the Rams are still in the mix.

ESPN said that the Rams are in the mix as of this afternoon.

 

[Multiple Scores]

What is the deadline? Midnight?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

What is the deadline? Midnight?

6pm Eastern removes all questions about whether he can play starting in Week 4 or not.After 6pm opens up some sort of conflict resolution on the differing interpretations about whether "roster exempt" follows you from team to team. And would also make him ineligible until Week 5 even if he won that argument. (I believe that's it anyhow.)

 

[Horses Mouth]

Bradford's accuracy and Jackson's ball skills would be a nice dynasty fit.

 

[Multiple Scores]

What is the deadline? Midnight?

6pm Eastern removes all questions about whether he can play starting in Week 4 or not.After 6pm opens up some sort of conflict resolution on the differing interpretations about whether "roster exempt" follows you from team to team. And would also make him ineligible until Week 5 even if he won that argument. (I believe that's it anyhow.)

Thanks. So either way his name will not be spoken of so often since in reality so far nothing changes with him. It's like a drum being pounded in almost every thread.

 

[Thumper]

What is the deadline? Midnight?

6pm Eastern removes all questions about whether he can play starting in Week 4 or not.After 6pm opens up some sort of conflict resolution on the differing interpretations about whether "roster exempt" follows you from team to team. And would also make him ineligible until Week 5 even if he won that argument. (I believe that's it anyhow.)

Thanks. So either way his name will not be spoken of so often since in reality so far nothing changes with him. It's like a drum being pounded in almost every thread.

Just heard on local radio fantasy football show that the Rams, Seahawks and Vikings are all attempting to acquire Jackson today.I should note that the guy who runs this radio program is a clown and is most likely getting his info from boards like this, but I thought I would throw it out there...If he went to Minnesota you would have to bump his and Favre's value.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Unsigned Chargers receiver Vincent Jackson will miss the first three games of the 2010 season because of a league suspension.  When it was confirmed this weekend that he was officially placed on the roster exempt list, we asked the NFL to clarify how this coincided with his suspension.

Here's what NFL spokesman Dan Masonson told us:

1. Vincent Jackson's three-game Substance Abuse suspension begins once the final roster reduction takes place [6:00 PM ET on Sept. 4].

2. Jackson is ineligible to report to the club during his suspension.

3. As per the CBA's restricted free agency provisions, if Jackson reports after his suspension begins on Sept. 4, he will be ineligible to play for an additional three weeks following the date he actually reports. The CBA's restricted free agency provisions state that once a club has notified a player of its intention to place him on the roster exempt list, the player must remain on that list for three games following the date on which he actually reports to his club.

All right.  This essentially means Jackson will miss three or six games if he plays this year, but not in between.  If he reports to a team before Sept. 4, he can serve his suspension and use up his three weeks on the roster exempt list at the same time.  Otherwise, he can't start his roster exempt clock until his suspension is over.

This clarification puts even more pressure for the Chargers to trade Jackson by Sept. 4.  If he's not dealt before then, he will have to miss six games this season, lowering his trade value. 

If Jackson stays put, he'll have to report to the Chargers by the eighth week of the season or he'll lose an accrued year of NFL service. 

It's getting difficult to imagine Jackson playing for the Chargers this year, and it also doesn't make sense for a trade to happen after the season starts.

If a team like Seattle wants Jackson, they should make the move soon or move on.

 

[Britney Spears]

Jackson to the Rams makes way too much sense, so it won't happen.

 

[Abrantes]

Jackson to the Rams makes way too much sense, so it won't happen.

Still keeping my fingers crossed.

 

[Go deep]

Unsigned Chargers receiver Vincent Jackson will miss the first three games of the 2010 season because of a league suspension. When it was confirmed this weekend that he was officially placed on the roster exempt list, we asked the NFL to clarify how this coincided with his suspension.Here's what NFL spokesman Dan Masonson told us:1. Vincent Jackson's three-game Substance Abuse suspension begins once the final roster reduction takes place [6:00 PM ET on Sept. 4]. 2. Jackson is ineligible to report to the club during his suspension.3. As per the CBA's restricted free agency provisions, if Jackson reports after his suspension begins on Sept. 4, he will be ineligible to play for an additional three weeks following the date he actually reports. The CBA's restricted free agency provisions state that once a club has notified a player of its intention to place him on the roster exempt list, the player must remain on that list for three games following the date on which he actually reports to his club.All right. This essentially means Jackson will miss three or six games if he plays this year, but not in between. If he reports to a team before Sept. 4, he can serve his suspension and use up his three weeks on the roster exempt list at the same time. Otherwise, he can't start his roster exempt clock until his suspension is over.This clarification puts even more pressure for the Chargers to trade Jackson by Sept. 4. If he's not dealt before then, he will have to miss six games this season, lowering his trade value. If Jackson stays put, he'll have to report to the Chargers by the eighth week of the season or he'll lose an accrued year of NFL service. It's getting difficult to imagine Jackson playing for the Chargers this year, and it also doesn't make sense for a trade to happen after the season starts.If a team like Seattle wants Jackson, they should make the move soon or move on.

This is the way i see it, he should be dealt in the next 3 hours. I just took him in the 10th round, so he better!!!

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

This is the way i see it, he should be dealt in the next 3 hours. I just took him in the 10th round, so he better!!!

He has to actually sign with the Chargers before he is dealt.It's unlikely that he'd sign with the Chargers before he had a long-term deal in place with the Chargers' trade partner.Three hours isn't very much time to work out a long-term deal. Unless he's already got it basically done (which we probably would have heard about by now), I don't think it's going to happen.

 

[pennystock]

OK, stupid question probably, but if he were close to a deal with another team, could he report to the Chargers and that way the other team avoids the 3 extra weeks of him being out? If he reports and the trade doesn't get done, could he then just sit out again? In other words, is there a downside to Jackson reporting to the Chargers before 6 pm?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

OK, stupid question probably, but if he were close to a deal with another team, could he report to the Chargers and that way the other team avoids the 3 extra weeks of him being out? If he reports and the trade doesn't get done, could he then just sit out again? In other words, is there a downside to Jackson reporting to the Chargers before 6 pm?

If he reports and then sits out, he gets fined about $16,000 per day.

 

[pennystock]

OK, stupid question probably, but if he were close to a deal with another team, could he report to the Chargers and that way the other team avoids the 3 extra weeks of him being out? If he reports and the trade doesn't get done, could he then just sit out again? In other words, is there a downside to Jackson reporting to the Chargers before 6 pm?

If he reports and then sits out, he gets fined about $16,000 per day.

Thanks, and yeah, I guess that would be downside for just about anybody.

 

[JbizzleMan]

I don't understand how the Rams DON'T do a deal with Jackson. You give your franchise quarterback an experienced but not over the hill WR to grow with you and you'll be sitting pretty in a few years.

 

[Multiple Scores]

I don't understand how the Rams DON'T do a deal with Jackson. You give your franchise quarterback an experienced but not over the hill WR to grow with you and you'll be sitting pretty in a few years.

Because V. Jax asking price for $$$ is a frigging joke for one. Then you have AJ Smith who wants to "Win a trade" and wants multiple picks for him. I think the real holdup moving V. Jax is V. Jax and wanting to be paid more than Brandon Marshall who is a much better player.

 

[Babu Bhatt2]

I don't understand how the Rams DON'T do a deal with Jackson. You give your franchise quarterback an experienced but not over the hill WR to grow with you and you'll be sitting pretty in a few years.

If the Rams get Jackson, throw Laurent Robinson's fantasy value out the window. I think with Jackson, Bradford might be a decent FF backup THIS YEAR. Dynasty-wise, look out.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

I don't understand how the Rams DON'T do a deal with Jackson. You give your franchise quarterback an experienced but not over the hill WR to grow with you and you'll be sitting pretty in a few years.

Because V. Jax asking price for $$$ is a frigging joke for one. Then you have AJ Smith who wants to "Win a trade" and wants multiple picks for him. I think the real holdup moving V. Jax is V. Jax and wanting to be paid more than Brandon Marshall who is a much better player.

This is how I'm reading the situation from afar as well.VJax and his reps have to have reasonable contract demands if they want a trade to happen in the next couple of hours.

 

[nysportsfan]

Guessing he's done for 6?

 

[shnikies]

Guessing he's done for 6?

You can guess but nobody will know until somebody hears definitively that he wasn't traded which might not happen until tomorrow.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

(KFFL) San Diego Chargers unsigned restricted free-agent WR Vincent Jackson was not traded Saturday, Sept. 4, and remains the property of the Chargers, reports Kevin Acee, of The San Diego Union-Tribune.

 

[spm3485]

With Housh likely heading to Minny or somewhere not named SD, and Jackson now likely gone for at least 6 games, Malcom Floyd seems pretty safe as a WR2 or WR3 with upside.

 

[pack66]

I can't believe STL didn't trade for him, considering their issues at WR.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I can't believe STL didn't trade for him, considering their issues at WR.

They may still

 

[bulger2holt]

I can't believe STL didn't trade for him, considering their issues at WR.

Too much money and too high of a pick for a head case.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Chargers are reportedly holding out for two 2nds.

If this is true teams should tell AJ to pound sand. Even if a team manages to sign VJax to a long-term deal instead of making him a 12 game rental (and that hasn't sounded likely so far) the situation is completely different than Marshall's situation. Everyone knows that the Chargers will get, at best, pick 100 or so if VJax moves on.

Guess we'll find out around 4pm today whether AJ really is a vindictive #####, or if he's just using brinksmanship to squeeze extra value out of the deal.

 

[Max Power]

I had a question about the compensatory pick for Jackson. Is the pick based on salaary of the player lost or the production the year before?

Just seems like a 3rd round would be high for a guy who didn't make that much money and the team showed they could live without...

 

[trader jake]

With a new CBA in place next year (hopefully) is there even a guarantee the compensatory pick compensation will still be in there?

 

[fruity pebbles]

With a new CBA in place next year (hopefully) is there even a guarantee the compensatory pick compensation will still be in there?

nope

 

[packersfan]

Peter King said on Sirius today he doesn't think the Chargers are operating logically with their decision making with this situation and that it seems to be more about vengeance. Considering they just turned down a 2011 second and a conditional pick from the Vikings I'd have to agree with him. That's a good offer for a player you don't want to play on your team again.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Peter King said on Sirius today he doesn't think the Chargers are operating logically with their decision making with this situation and that it seems to be more about vengeance. Considering they just turned down a 2011 second and a conditional pick from the Vikings I'd have to agree with him. That's a good offer for a player you don't want to play on your team again.

Yep. If that offer is legit and he remains a Charger, they're out to screw VJ, nothing else.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Peter King said on Sirius today he doesn't think the Chargers are operating logically with their decision making with this situation and that it seems to be more about vengeance. Considering they just turned down a 2011 second and a conditional pick from the Vikings I'd have to agree with him. That's a good offer for a player you don't want to play on your team again.

That looks like a solid offer by Minnesota. Question: How long does SD put up with AJ Smith? SD fans, would you rather take a 2nd and a conditional or have V Jax just sit all year? King is right, doesn't seem logical to me either.

 

[DoubleG]

Peter King said on Sirius today he doesn't think the Chargers are operating logically with their decision making with this situation and that it seems to be more about vengeance. Considering they just turned down a 2011 second and a conditional pick from the Vikings I'd have to agree with him. That's a good offer for a player you don't want to play on your team again.

That looks like a solid offer by Minnesota. Question: How long does SD put up with AJ Smith? SD fans, would you rather take a 2nd and a conditional or have V Jax just sit all year?

King is right, doesn't seem logical to me either.

As long as they win despite the decision. Currently SD has scored more points than any other team in the AFC except for Indy and Houston (i.e. the offense seems to be doing just fine without VJax). If the offense continues to produce and the Chargers continue to win, it's much easier for Smith to stick to his guns and stick it to VJax.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Peter King said on Sirius today he doesn't think the Chargers are operating logically with their decision making with this situation and that it seems to be more about vengeance. Considering they just turned down a 2011 second and a conditional pick from the Vikings I'd have to agree with him. That's a good offer for a player you don't want to play on your team again.

That looks like a solid offer by Minnesota. Question: How long does SD put up with AJ Smith? SD fans, would you rather take a 2nd and a conditional or have V Jax just sit all year? King is right, doesn't seem logical to me either.

Personally I blame the owner. He is very cheap. AJ and the owner are sticking to their guns and AJ isnt going anywhere.

 

[Max Power]

Peter King said on Sirius today he doesn't think the Chargers are operating logically with their decision making with this situation and that it seems to be more about vengeance. Considering they just turned down a 2011 second and a conditional pick from the Vikings I'd have to agree with him. That's a good offer for a player you don't want to play on your team again.

That looks like a solid offer by Minnesota. Question: How long does SD put up with AJ Smith? SD fans, would you rather take a 2nd and a conditional or have V Jax just sit all year?

King is right, doesn't seem logical to me either.

As long as they win despite the decision. Currently SD has scored more points than any other team in the AFC except for Indy and Houston (i.e. the offense seems to be doing just fine without VJax). If the offense continues to produce and the Chargers continue to win, it's much easier for Smith to stick to his guns and stick it to VJax.

SD never had a problem beating lesser teams. Meaningful games against Indy, NE, Pitt, Bal, NYJ, and even Hou now, is probably when they are going to miss Jackson.

 

[Max Power]

Peter King said on Sirius today he doesn't think the Chargers are operating logically with their decision making with this situation and that it seems to be more about vengeance. Considering they just turned down a 2011 second and a conditional pick from the Vikings I'd have to agree with him. That's a good offer for a player you don't want to play on your team again.

That looks like a solid offer by Minnesota. Question: How long does SD put up with AJ Smith? SD fans, would you rather take a 2nd and a conditional or have V Jax just sit all year? King is right, doesn't seem logical to me either.

You've got to figure that 2nd round pick is going to be 35-40 picks higher than their best case scenario of a conditional 3rd rounder. Even more if the Vikes continue to struggle. I'd be pissed if I were a SD fan and they didn't jump on this just to prove a point. Now if they are still holding out that Jackson will report this season, thats a different story.

 

[todisco1]

Peter King said on Sirius today he doesn't think the Chargers are operating logically with their decision making with this situation and that it seems to be more about vengeance. Considering they just turned down a 2011 second and a conditional pick from the Vikings I'd have to agree with him. That's a good offer for a player you don't want to play on your team again.

That looks like a solid offer by Minnesota. Question: How long does SD put up with AJ Smith? SD fans, would you rather take a 2nd and a conditional or have V Jax just sit all year?

King is right, doesn't seem logical to me either.

As long as they win despite the decision. Currently SD has scored more points than any other team in the AFC except for Indy and Houston (i.e. the offense seems to be doing just fine without VJax). If the offense continues to produce and the Chargers continue to win, it's much easier for Smith to stick to his guns and stick it to VJax.

SD never had a problem beating lesser teams. Meaningful games against Indy, NE, Pitt, Bal, NYJ, and even Hou now, is probably when they are going to miss Jackson.

If they don't win a SB I think Smith will be open to criticism if he sits on Jackson. Doesn't mean they would have won a Super Bowl if VJax had been playing, but right now Smith is not fielding the best team possible.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Peter King said on Sirius today he doesn't think the Chargers are operating logically with their decision making with this situation and that it seems to be more about vengeance. Considering they just turned down a 2011 second and a conditional pick from the Vikings I'd have to agree with him. That's a good offer for a player you don't want to play on your team again.

That looks like a solid offer by Minnesota. Question: How long does SD put up with AJ Smith? SD fans, would you rather take a 2nd and a conditional or have V Jax just sit all year? King is right, doesn't seem logical to me either.

You've got to figure that 2nd round pick is going to be 35-40 picks higher than their best case scenario of a conditional 3rd rounder. Even more if the Vikes continue to struggle. I'd be pissed if I were a SD fan and they didn't jump on this just to prove a point. Now if they are still holding out that Jackson will report this season, thats a different story.

The conversations we're having about Jackson seem eerily similar to the Michael Turner conversations of a couple years ago. It didn't make sense to me then, it doesn't make sense to me now, but I'll admit I know very little to nothing about running a NFL franchise.

 

[Football Critic]

After watching many holdouts over years and how teams handle it...

Smith to be has declared himself to me as the worst GM in the league, and yes I do GM rankings, lol j/k

When you are obviously putting your feelings ahead of the teams, you gotta go.

 

[Native]

Sep. 22 - 9:36 am et

The Rams are no longer pursuing Vincent Jackson, sources tell the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

According to Rams beat writer Jim Thomas, "expending lots of money, plus draft picks, for a player with past DUI issues didn't make sense to the team." The Vikings and one other team, possibly the Seahawks or Redskins, are reportedly still in the mix for Jackson. Chargers GM A.J. Smith will likely have to lower his asking price to get a deal done and there have been no signs yet that he's willing to do so. Sep. 22 - 9:36 am et

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...2920&spln=1

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

After watching many holdouts over years and how teams handle it...Smith to be has declared himself to me as the worst GM in the league, and yes I do GM rankings, lol j/kWhen you are obviously putting your feelings ahead of the teams, you gotta go.

I dunno. Gotta enforce discipline; the front office runs the team, not players. Vince might have forgotten that.Plus Smith has to get value; if Jackson goes off somewhere else and the Chargers get less than fair value *Smith* starts to look bad in front of the owner and fans and it's *Smith that everyone is suddenly looking at.