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Any update on Reggie Bush's status for MNF? (1 Viewer)

mijatra said:
Is he practicing? If so, how does he look? What is the chance he plays on Monday?
I'd like an update as well. Anybody have news from today's afternoon practice or comments from the HC?
 
mijatra said:
Is he practicing? If so, how does he look? What is the chance he plays on Monday?
Published Thu Nov 20 2:21:56 p.m. CT 2008 (FFChamps) New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton told the media today he is more optimistic about running back Reggie Bush playing this week than he was last week.Analysis: Bush made it through practice today, albeit on a limited basis. We should know a lot more Friday.
 
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Per CBSSportsline:

New Orleans RB Reggie Bush (knee) was able to practice in a limited capacity on Thursday, reports the Monroe News-Star. Bush has missed the last three games but has finally been able to practice again and coach Sean Payton says he’s further along in his progress than he was at this point last week. Payton said Bush looked "pretty good" in practice.

(Updated 11/20/2008).

 
fast foward to Monday night, you have Thomas in the lineup, but Bush is reported to be starting. Do you make a last minute change or go with Thomas?

 
Posted this morning-

http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/...&thispage=1

Reggie Bush returned to the practice field on a limited basis Thursday, and the Saints are hoping he'll be back in action Monday night against Green Bay after missing the past month with a knee injury.

Bush, who had surgery Oct. 20 to repair a torn meniscus in his left knee, looked faster and more fluid Thursday during the portion of individual drills that were open to the media than he did during his lone practice last Wednesday.

He was wearing a protective sleeve over the knee instead of the heavier brace he wore last week.

"It felt pretty good," said Bush, who said he felt some expected soreness and stiffness last week but thinks he'll be further along this week. "I'm just kind of getting back into the motions, the swing of things, and it felt good to finish a full practice. Definitely, I feel pretty confident, and we still have until Monday. I feel that's enough time to do all the little things I need to do to help me be 100 percent for Monday.

"I've just got to really work on just stretching it out as much as possible. Massages, little stuff like that is going to help me keep the flexibility and not allow it to get stiff."

 
Posted this morning-

http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/...&thispage=1

Reggie Bush returned to the practice field on a limited basis Thursday, and the Saints are hoping he'll be back in action Monday night against Green Bay after missing the past month with a knee injury.

Bush, who had surgery Oct. 20 to repair a torn meniscus in his left knee, looked faster and more fluid Thursday during the portion of individual drills that were open to the media than he did during his lone practice last Wednesday.

He was wearing a protective sleeve over the knee instead of the heavier brace he wore last week.

"It felt pretty good," said Bush, who said he felt some expected soreness and stiffness last week but thinks he'll be further along this week. "I'm just kind of getting back into the motions, the swing of things, and it felt good to finish a full practice. Definitely, I feel pretty confident, and we still have until Monday. I feel that's enough time to do all the little things I need to do to help me be 100 percent for Monday.

"I've just got to really work on just stretching it out as much as possible. Massages, little stuff like that is going to help me keep the flexibility and not allow it to get stiff."
You know why it gets stiff? Because it's swelling Mr. Dumass. You're not ready and both you and your coach know it.
 
Posted this morning-

http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/...&thispage=1

Reggie Bush returned to the practice field on a limited basis Thursday, and the Saints are hoping he'll be back in action Monday night against Green Bay after missing the past month with a knee injury.

Bush, who had surgery Oct. 20 to repair a torn meniscus in his left knee, looked faster and more fluid Thursday during the portion of individual drills that were open to the media than he did during his lone practice last Wednesday.

He was wearing a protective sleeve over the knee instead of the heavier brace he wore last week.

"It felt pretty good," said Bush, who said he felt some expected soreness and stiffness last week but thinks he'll be further along this week. "I'm just kind of getting back into the motions, the swing of things, and it felt good to finish a full practice. Definitely, I feel pretty confident, and we still have until Monday. I feel that's enough time to do all the little things I need to do to help me be 100 percent for Monday.

"I've just got to really work on just stretching it out as much as possible. Massages, little stuff like that is going to help me keep the flexibility and not allow it to get stiff."
You know why it gets stiff?
Kim K.?
 
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You know why it gets stiff?
Kim K.?
:thumbup: That would definitely do it for me. Back that thang up...
More hard hitting analysis in the shark pool. :thumbup: But seriously, if Bush is shelved and Duece is out. How high is PT's ceiling? Hoping they don't rush Reggie back. And I really hope i'm in line to have him rolling week 16 against the Lions!
The Packers run defense is their hole. Their secondary is very very good so teams would be wise to throw underneath or just run the ball. The loss of Cullen Jenkins has softened their defense up the middle and teams are running almost at will against them.I really don't understand why Forte didn't kill them last week - oh yeah, the Bears were WAY behind.

 
You know why it gets stiff?
Kim K.?
:scared: That would definitely do it for me. Back that thang up...
More hard hitting analysis in the shark pool. :P But seriously, if Bush is shelved and Duece is out. How high is PT's ceiling? Hoping they don't rush Reggie back. And I really hope i'm in line to have him rolling week 16 against the Lions!
The Packers run defense is their hole. Their secondary is very very good so teams would be wise to throw underneath or just run the ball. The loss of Cullen Jenkins has softened their defense up the middle and teams are running almost at will against them.I really don't understand why Forte didn't kill them last week - oh yeah, the Bears were WAY behind.
That is helpful info. If the Saints backfield issue clears up a bit before Sunday I am seriuosly considering starting the Saints back over Chris Johnson this week. :lmao:
 
Bush doesn't practice today (Friday). :excited:

Saints | Bush questionable for Week 12

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:58:23 -0800

Larry Holder, of the Biloxi Sun-Herald, reports New Orleans Saints RB Reggie Bush (knee) did not participate in practice Friday, Nov. 21. He is listed as questionable for the team's Week 12 game.

 
Bush doesn't practice today (Friday). :loco: Saints | Bush questionable for Week 12Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:58:23 -0800Larry Holder, of the Biloxi Sun-Herald, reports New Orleans Saints RB Reggie Bush (knee) did not participate in practice Friday, Nov. 21. He is listed as questionable for the team's Week 12 game.
Saints Update: RB Bush Questionable For Week 12Mike Triplett, New Orleans Times-Picayune - [Full Article]New Orleans Saints RB Reggie Bush is listed as questionable on for Week 12 against Green Bay. HC Sean Payton said he is still hopeful that Bush will be able to play in Week 12 and that he hopes Bush will return to practice on Saturday. He said Friday was a planned day of rest since the Saints have extra time to prepare in Week 12. He said Bush did not suffer a setback after he practiced on Thursday. "We're just hopeful that tomorrow is better news than a week ago," Payton said. "We'll see where it's at." RB Deuce McAllister was limited on Friday and is listed as probable with his knee injury. WR Marques Colston (knee), C Jonathan Goodwin (knee) and OT Jon Stinchcomb (calf) are also listed as probable
this sounds more promising, he wasnt scheduled to practice today, they practice tomorrow cause the game is on monday, have to wait and see what happens tomorrow
 
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Got this at draftsharks, they always pluck good info out of N.O. and several other teams, hope this helps.

Saints RB Reggie Bush (knee) shed his knee brace Wednesday and practiced all week in non-contact drills. He missed Friday but Sean Payton said it was just rest, although he listed him as questionable. “He [Payton] said Friday was a planned day of rest since the Saints have extra time to prepare for this week's game,” reports the Times Picayune. “He said Bush did not suffer a setback after he practiced on Thursday.” We have a source who says Bush was “running around fine” on Thursday. Look for Bush to start on Monday night because if the 5-5 Saints lose to Green Bay their season is over.

http://www.draftsharks.com/

 
Of course Bush could be very useful in the passing game against GB. However, when it comes to rushing the ball, I think that NO would be better served pounding Pierre Thomas and Deuce.

 
My very worst fear is that they activate him for the game, run him out there a few times and don't really get him involved. Or even worse, he has a setback and they shut him down early in the game.

I'm lucky enough to have Lance Moore as an option if he's out, but if I didn't, I wouldn't be taking the risk (as long as there was a somewhat decent option available on Sunday).

 
Got this at draftsharks, they always pluck good info out of N.O. and several other teams, hope this helps.

Saints RB Reggie Bush (knee) shed his knee brace Wednesday and practiced all week in non-contact drills. He missed Friday but Sean Payton said it was just rest, although he listed him as questionable. “He [Payton] said Friday was a planned day of rest since the Saints have extra time to prepare for this week's game,” reports the Times Picayune. “He said Bush did not suffer a setback after he practiced on Thursday.” We have a source who says Bush was “running around fine” on Thursday. Look for Bush to start on Monday night because if the 5-5 Saints lose to Green Bay their season is over.

http://www.draftsharks.com/
John Clayton also wrote in his injury updates today that he expects Bush to play.
 
My very worst fear is that they activate him for the game, run him out there a few times and don't really get him involved. Or even worse, he has a setback and they shut him down early in the game.

I'm lucky enough to have Lance Moore as an option if he's out, but if I didn't, I wouldn't be taking the risk (as long as there was a somewhat decent option available on Sunday).
That's my concern as well. I have to win out in my league to get in the playoffs and I have a good matchup with Jamal. I can just see it now, I sit Jamal for Bush and he comes out and gets about 5 touches and hits the bench for the game. I just don't know if I can take that risk.

 
Nice, if Reggie plays, and the team owner leaves him on IR for the game, he goes back into the blind bid pool for tuesday! (A little rule to prevent IR abuse)

Play through it Reggie :)

 
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Nice, if Reggie plays, and the team owner leaves him on IR for the game, he goes back into the blind bid pool for tuesday! (A little rule to prevent IR abuse) Play through it Reggie :thumbup:
But he was never on IR? Interesting rules, anyone who misses a few weeks counts as IR? I could see someone getting burned pretty bad, like losing Reggie.
 
Nice, if Reggie plays, and the team owner leaves him on IR for the game, he goes back into the blind bid pool for tuesday! (A little rule to prevent IR abuse) Play through it Reggie :thumbup:
But he was never on IR? Interesting rules, anyone who misses a few weeks counts as IR? I could see someone getting burned pretty bad, like losing Reggie.
Well not to get off topic but, in my league if a player is declared OUT that week or longer they can be placed on our IR while OUT or INACTIVE, unless it's disciplinary. If they play even 1 snap while they are taking an IR roster spot, they are dropped from your team and back in the free agent pool.
 
My very worst fear is that they activate him for the game, run him out there a few times and don't really get him involved. Or even worse, he has a setback and they shut him down early in the game.

I'm lucky enough to have Lance Moore as an option if he's out, but if I didn't, I wouldn't be taking the risk (as long as there was a somewhat decent option available on Sunday).
That's my concern as well. I have to win out in my league to get in the playoffs and I have a good matchup with Jamal. I can just see it now, I sit Jamal for Bush and he comes out and gets about 5 touches and hits the bench for the game. I just don't know if I can take that risk.
I have the same situation. I thought I was pretty stocked at running back down the stretch with Larry, Sjax, Bush, Jamal, and Carnell, but I am just hoping I can field a playoff team at this point. Jamal, for how many times I have tried to move him, has been the only constant in my running back corps. Sure, he's constantly mediocre, but he hasn't killed me either. He's only been under 18 carries twice this season, which is nice and with the team trying to somewhat protect Brady Quinn, that won't change. I am rolling with Jamal over Bush at this point. Granted I am a Packer fan too.

 
Reggie Bush (knee) returned to a "limited" practice on Saturday, but is still listed as questionable for Monday night's game against Green Bay.

Bush wouldn't commit to playing, which isn't encouraging. "It's been tough, just being out in general," he said. "I wish the progress was a little faster, but you can't rush Mother Nature." Coach Sean Payton expects Pierre Thomas and newly signed Mike Bell to "get a lot of touches, along with Deuce (McAllister)." It sounds like Bush will be limited if he plays. Thomas is a fair bet to lead New Orleans' backfield for the second straight week. Nov. 22 - 3:11 pm et
RotoworldThomas may be worth a flex start now.

 
NOLA

Reggie Bush back on the field, but still limited at practice and questionable for Monday's game

Posted by Teddy Kider, The Times-Picayune November 22, 2008 1:34PM

Categories: Saints

Saints running back Reggie Bush returned to the practice field Saturday but was still limited two days before his team plays the Green Bay Packers, a sign that he could be in danger of missing his fourth straight game.

Saints Coach Sean Payton said after Saturday's practice that he was optimistic about Bush's possible return, but Bush's practice time this week might have indicated otherwise, with Bush missing Friday's session and participating on a limited basis Thursday and Saturday.

Bush has not played since tearing the meniscus in his left knee against the Carolina Panthers on Oct. 19 and having surgery. He was listed Friday as questionable for Monday's game against the Packers at the Superdome, and the Saints were not required by the league to update their players' injury statuses after Saturday's practice.



Bush said Saturday that he has been doing the "same limited stuff" all week, and he said he was optimistic about playing Monday but added: "We'll see what happens. Day by day."

Bush also expressed a little frustration with the time it has taken him to recover from the knee injury.

"It's been tough, just being out in general," Bush said. "Obviously I wish the progress was a little faster, but you can't rush Mother Nature."

If Bush does not play Monday, it could mean significant playing time for running backs Pierre Thomas and Mike Bell, who was added to the Saints' roster this week. Running back Deuce McAllister (knee) is listed as probable for Monday's game.

"I think those guys will get a lot of touches, along with Deuce," Payton said Saturday about Thomas, Bell and McAllister.
 
Bell seems to think Bush is going to play - which is a bit different than the NOLA blog I posted above.

Bush and Portis are game-time decisions

Saturday, November 22, 2008 | Print Entry

Posted by Stephania Bell, ESPN.com

Reggie Bush, RB, Saints: Bush is listed as questionable for the Saints' Monday night game and we likely won't have confirmation of his status until just before kickoff. That being said, it seems as if the plan is for Bush to play on Monday, which would mark a five week return after surgery to address a torn meniscus.

Bush tore the meniscus in his left knee in Week 7 and did not make the trip to London with his teammates so that he could stay behind for surgery. This knee is the same knee in which he suffered a partial tear of his posterior cruciate ligament last year, an injury that forced an early end to his 2007 season. Given his injury history, the initial projected timetable for Bush of two-to-four weeks seemed a bit ambitious. Most meniscal procedures require closer to four weeks of recovery, and there is the issue of Bush already having had some trauma to that knee. Even a small amount of instability in his knee requires that Bush compensate for that deficit with improved quad and hamstring strength as well as excellent directional control, especially given his style of frequent lateral running and cutting. Therefore it came as no surprise last week that the Saints opted to hold Bush out a little longer to have him continue to focus on the high level skills that would ready him to return to play.

Bush himself said this week that with the extra day going into this game, he feels confident that he has enough time to do "all the things necessary" to help him be 100 percent for Monday. According to Mike Triplett of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, Bush even looked better this week, running more fluid routes in practice. Bush did not practice Friday but this was a planned rest day since the Saints had an extra day before their Monday game.

Despite the questionable tag, I expect that Bush will play, barring some episode of swelling or other such last minute setback. I do think the Saints will control his playing time to some degree, perhaps choosing not to have him return kicks straight out of the gate, until they see that he can perform at his usual level without any regression.
 
Sucks that this a Monday night game. I have Pierre and want to start him, but there is too much uncertainty. Will plug in Sammy Morris probably unless I heard something different before today's games.

 
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NFL.com

News: Saints RB Deuce McAllister (knee) is listed as probable for Week 12 vs. Green Bay. McAllister returned to limited practice reps Friday after sitting out Thursday. He will likely start Monday in the event Reggie Bush can't return from his own knee injury.

Wait a minute, I thought Pierre would start if Bush is out. Good luck with this situation guys. It will probably end up an air show anyway and whatever back you do start will just end up pass protecting. So unless your in a league that awards points for blocks I would look elsewhere.

 
I dont see how anyone can wait for him considering it's a Mon game. Even if he plays, he'll be extremely limited.

 
Only the Saints can make an easy matchup like Green Bay a horrible play for your running back. I have Deuce and Thomas, and I have decided to bench them both. I will start Hightower over them in my 3rd position.

 
It's a tough call and it does suck for those who have to make a decision because I think the Saints will get production from their RBs this week. My guess is if Bush doesn't play, Deuce "starts" but Thomas gets most of the touches - especially in the passing game. Unless you have someone playing tomorrow night to replace for Bush, I don't think you can put him in your starting lineup today. It's just too risky.

 
It's a tough call and it does suck for those who have to make a decision because I think the Saints will get production from their RBs this week. My guess is if Bush doesn't play, Deuce "starts" but Thomas gets most of the touches - especially in the passing game. Unless you have someone playing tomorrow night to replace for Bush, I don't think you can put him in your starting lineup today. It's just too risky.
this is my feeling as well, and i'll be rolling the dice with pierre.
 
How about if you have Bush/Thomas? Might be worth a shot to see if Bush is active and if not you can plug Thomas in. What do you think?

 
How about if you have Bush/Thomas? Might be worth a shot to see if Bush is active and if not you can plug Thomas in. What do you think?
Absolutely. I'd definitely keep Bush in the starting lineup and then plug in Thomas if he can't go. I think Thomas will be huge tomorrow night if Bush doesn't play. I'd do the same with Bush/Deuce as well though I'm not as keen on Deuce because I don't think he has Thomas' upside. But if I had someone either with the Saints or Packers to put in for Bush I'd definitely wait until tomorrow and see what happens. I think if Bush does play he'll be involved in the passing game at least. This game is far too important to the Saints for him to be a decoy. There's a risk of him playing and not being 100% of course so you have to factor that into the discussion. But if I didn't have someone clearly better than Bush to start today and I had a backup who I felt good about to replace for him tomorrow, I'd wait and see what happens before the game tomorrow night.Just my 2 cents.
 
Ugh, what a nightmare rollercoaster. Considering slotting Thomas in over LJ, but given the Monday night uncertainty, I almost feel better about taking LJ's certain carries over Pierre Thomas's uncertain carries but higher upside.

How do other people feel about this general strategy -- mitigting risk by playing a sure back, even if it means a lower upside?

 
Ugh, what a nightmare rollercoaster. Considering slotting Thomas in over LJ, but given the Monday night uncertainty, I almost feel better about taking LJ's certain carries over Pierre Thomas's uncertain carries but higher upside.How do other people feel about this general strategy -- mitigting risk by playing a sure back, even if it means a lower upside?
If the RB has a decent or good matchup I'd take the points I felt certain I'd get over the points I was hoping to get at this stage of the season. If it was earlier in the year, I'd be more willing to gamble but in Week 12 I think you have to make sure you get points and not take significant risks. I'm not sure if LJ will go off because the Bills are decent against the run but are real vulnerable to the pass right now. So I think this is a game where Thigpen and the passing game does well. But he should be good for 50+ yards and 1-2 receptions at least.
 
Wait a minute, I thought Pierre would start if Bush is out. Good luck with this situation guys. It will probably end up an air show anyway and whatever back you do start will just end up pass protecting. So unless your in a league that awards points for blocks I would look elsewhere.
PPR.
 
Ugh, what a nightmare rollercoaster. Considering slotting Thomas in over LJ, but given the Monday night uncertainty, I almost feel better about taking LJ's certain carries over Pierre Thomas's uncertain carries but higher upside.How do other people feel about this general strategy -- mitigting risk by playing a sure back, even if it means a lower upside?
If the RB has a decent or good matchup I'd take the points I felt certain I'd get over the points I was hoping to get at this stage of the season. If it was earlier in the year, I'd be more willing to gamble but in Week 12 I think you have to make sure you get points and not take significant risks. I'm not sure if LJ will go off because the Bills are decent against the run but are real vulnerable to the pass right now. So I think this is a game where Thigpen and the passing game does well. But he should be good for 50+ yards and 1-2 receptions at least.
Wise as always, pf -- thanks. It was the way I was leaning, but in situations like this, you always hate to have someone go off on your bench - and PT has that upside if he gets the bulk of the carries.Philosophically, I agree with being more conservative late in the season, unless you are looking at an outside chance at getting in the playoffs, at which point I think it's valid to take a risk. If you are facing a steep uphill climb for the fantasy postseason, sometimes it's nothing ventured, nothing gained.
 

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