groin pains
Footballguy
I did read ealry this week that Hightower was also practicing witht he first team offense...is this the week he starts.
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Any word if Hightower will start over Edge today... (1 Viewer)
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Mybe a role reversal?? Hightower getting the carries and Edge doing the short yardage and goal line work. Edge runs through people now in stead of around them and could thrive in this role. hightower has the younger legs for more carries.
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AgentMulder
Footballguy
FoxSports.com's John Czarnecki reports that Tim Hightower is expected to start against the Rams Sunday.
We already ranked him as a low level RB2, and this only helps his case. Even if Hightower doesn't start, expect him to get more touches than Edgerrin James against the Rams.
Source: FoxSports.com
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8746720...tack-vs.-Titans
We already ranked him as a low level RB2, and this only helps his case. Even if Hightower doesn't start, expect him to get more touches than Edgerrin James against the Rams.
Source: FoxSports.com
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8746720...tack-vs.-Titans
Yeah!!!I doubt Edge will get the short-yardage carries...I think Hightower has converted somehwhere around 80-90% of all his short-yardage (1 yrd) carries. I think this is just the next sign of Edge's aging process.
Phurfur
Footballguy
From RotoWorld:
Timmy Hightower to start against Rams?
FoxSports.com's John Czarnecki reports that Tim Hightower is expected to start against the Rams Sunday.
We already ranked him as a low level RB2, and this only helps his case. Even if Hightower doesn't start, expect him to get more touches than Edgerrin James against the Rams. Nov. 2 - 8:25 am et
Source: FoxSports.com
Timmy Hightower to start against Rams?
FoxSports.com's John Czarnecki reports that Tim Hightower is expected to start against the Rams Sunday.
We already ranked him as a low level RB2, and this only helps his case. Even if Hightower doesn't start, expect him to get more touches than Edgerrin James against the Rams. Nov. 2 - 8:25 am et
Source: FoxSports.com
Otis
Footballguy
Wow. Didn't realize this was really happening this week. 
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
Of course. This is because I had him all year long, and then just traded him for Deuce when he jumped back into the offense. Now, Deuce is set to be suspended and Hightower is doing what I told everyone he would do all year long.
taz
Footballguy
I've held onto him as well, hoping he could emerge as a RB3 ahead of Perry (then Benson) and Morris. I also almost traded him this week.
Otis
Footballguy
Hard NOT to get excited when a rookie back takes over the starting gig on a high powered offense and running behind that passing attack.
Time will tell. Nobody has seen enough of him to make that call. During camp and preseason the organization constantly raved about him. they still do. Presumably they know more than you and me.
Absurd and unsupported by any facts.
Edge owner huh?
T Bell
Footballguy
I picked Hightower up off of waivers this week in a 12-team redraft league. I couldn't believe he was available.
If Hightower starts, the consensus here seems to be that he'd obviously get the majority of carries and most if not all of the short-yardage work too, correct? What's the range of carries he'll end up with? 15-20? More?
Also, does Warner throw to the RB's a lot in that offense?
If Hightower starts, the consensus here seems to be that he'd obviously get the majority of carries and most if not all of the short-yardage work too, correct? What's the range of carries he'll end up with? 15-20? More?
Also, does Warner throw to the RB's a lot in that offense?
Otis
Footballguy
This is the big problem -- they haven't been running the ball much at all. Even as a starter I don't think we'll ever see a 20 carry game from Hightower unless that offense changes dramatically. That's the problem, and I think it's the one thing that prevents him from becoming a stud in that situation. Then again, one could argue that Edge has been ineffective and that's why they've resorted to passing even with a nice lead -- maybe Hightower ends up being much more effective and therefore utilized more. We don't know.Edge only has 10 catches and Hightower 16, so they obviously aren't throwing to the backs a lot. That said, they threw to Hightower more, so maybe if he's in for more snaps he'll see more catches.You can probably expect 10-15 carries today.
treat88
Footballguy
Sorry to cut against the grain in my opinion on Hightower.
I've watched him play some and I just didn't see anything special. I don't have a strong opinion or a stake in his future one way or another.
How exactly, Otis does one support with facts, the belief that running style will lend itself to injury? Actually, kind of an absurd request.
I hope Hightower is the second coming of Terrell Davis and has a long lucrative career. At this point, I just don't see it.
I've watched him play some and I just didn't see anything special. I don't have a strong opinion or a stake in his future one way or another.
How exactly, Otis does one support with facts, the belief that running style will lend itself to injury? Actually, kind of an absurd request.
I hope Hightower is the second coming of Terrell Davis and has a long lucrative career. At this point, I just don't see it.
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PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
I'm starting him over J. Lewis. I'm not in love with the play but figure Hightower has the higher ceiling and about the same floor. I'll be back to sulk later.
steelerfan1
Footballguy
i am in the same boat. just put hightower in. i think packers get up early and cj3 will be used. may switch back yet.....
Otis
Footballguy
Your prediction that he will get hurt based on his running style is absurd. Sorry.
Tau837
Footballguy
fathermurphy
Footballguy
I think this turns out to be an edge heavy day ( all relative considering how often the cards run the ball). I think it turns out to be one of those fantasy driven over-thinks as opposed to a coach's motivational tool for Edge played out via the media (and exacerbated via the fantasy world). Edge needs a kick in the butt every now and again.
That said, I am wrong as often as I'm right so this is just my feeling (I own neither so no bias here).
That said, I am wrong as often as I'm right so this is just my feeling (I own neither so no bias here).
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Arnold. S
Footballguy
Arnold. S
Footballguy
Arnold. S
Footballguy
well we do have multiple news sources to back this up. Not exactly a complete guess or speculation by fantasy owners
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taz
Footballguy
If the Cards win today, although Whisenhunt obviously won't come out and say it, it's pretty safe to say the Cards should win the division.
They need to establish the run, if they're going to go anywhere in the playoffs, so why not go with the guy they think will give them the best chance of doing that? And do it now, so there's no question of when it'll come down the road.
They may bring Edge in to spell him, and it remains to be seen whether he's the short-yardage guy. But if Hightower shows anything today, he'll be the guy from here on out. His success will not only help the run game, but open things up for Warner and the pass game as well.
They need to establish the run, if they're going to go anywhere in the playoffs, so why not go with the guy they think will give them the best chance of doing that? And do it now, so there's no question of when it'll come down the road.
They may bring Edge in to spell him, and it remains to be seen whether he's the short-yardage guy. But if Hightower shows anything today, he'll be the guy from here on out. His success will not only help the run game, but open things up for Warner and the pass game as well.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Just curious - source?Radio? Who?I think they will start Hightower, but I would like to know who broke it this a.m.
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WildEyedOne
Footballguy
Does it really matter who starts? This team throws for most of their points anyway?
fathermurphy
Footballguy
I know the story came from a viable news source. What I'm saying is the FF world gave it legs. I guess time will tell...shortly.
Mort just said increased carries, but didn't mention anything about the start. The Cards RB's have been averaging about 15-20 total carries a game over the past few weeks. They are not a run first team and I really don't see a big difference in stats whether its EJ or TH running the ball.
FF wise, this is better for TH, but just by a few points. I wouldn't be surprised to see a role reversal and have James get goaline or short yardage carries.
What about this?
TH carries the rock today but fumbles twice. What happens then?
FF wise, this is better for TH, but just by a few points. I wouldn't be surprised to see a role reversal and have James get goaline or short yardage carries.
What about this?
TH carries the rock today but fumbles twice. What happens then?
I am going with Hightower over T. Jones (NYJ) PPR league
FFdork
Footballguy
To me it looks like all of the reports of Hightower starting are originating with the one report from Czarnecki. I don't follow him closely, but I know I've seen his credibility questioned before on these boards--I also know he has broken other stories. I hope this isn't just someone over-blowing the fact that Hightower will be out there for the the first play from scrimmage due to the playcall (i.e. no actual change in the distribution of carries) to make a story.I'm trying to find out more b/c this news would free me up to make a couple of trades. I know:
taz
Footballguy
PPR: May go with Hightower over Megatron at flex.
Garts
Footballguy
FinHead
Footballguy
I'm starting Hightower over Grant.
From ESPN: "The Arizona Republic reports that the Cardinals have not announced any changes to their starting running back slot, meaning Edgerrin James is likely to start again in Week 9. Still, going by recent returns, Tim Hightower should still get a good share of the work. They're somewhat interchangeable as flex options, but Hightower is the one with greater upside, starter's status or not." (12:41 p.m. ET)
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FFdork
Footballguy
I know you're trying to be helpful, but this is just another site recycling the same report by Czarnecki. It's not confirming or adding anything to what was already reported. In fact one of the reposnses in that thread echoes what I was saying:
Now we have the somewhat contradicting ESPN report, I guess we just have to wait and see...ESPN's info has definitely taken a downturn in reliability as well.
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Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
A friend of mine who is watching TV said he heard an announcer state that Edge will still be starting for the Cards today.
Though I doubt that really matters in the grand scheme (who is starting). Hightower has already surpassed Edge in touches, and will continue to do so, IMO. (I am an Edge owner in two leagues, BTW)
Though I doubt that really matters in the grand scheme (who is starting). Hightower has already surpassed Edge in touches, and will continue to do so, IMO. (I am an Edge owner in two leagues, BTW)
Sweeper
Footballguy
And who's keeping Edge in? I don't see any one of these 2 guys being featured. I think they are going to split the load, but Hightower also seems to get the nod in the red zone.I am keeping both of these guys off my bench until something develops. If I have the option I'd prefer to keep one of a RBBC out of my lineup (with the exception of White/Johnson -Ten). We have one unproven back and one back that can't hold on to the ball. The teams rushing stats should be decent, but can't count on either, individually. Yes, there is a chance that either one of these guys could put up decent stats but the risk that they put up nothing is too great.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
The took his TD away 
biggamer3
Footballguy
Damn he had 3 chances at 1st and goal from 1 and couldnt get in, bad news for himThe took his TD away
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Not really. The Rams completely sold out to stop the run all three downs. Not many RBs could have scored on any of those plays. And he looked good when they were moving the ball down the field.Damn he had 3 chances at 1st and goal from 1 and couldnt get in, bad news for himThe took his TD away
